Zone1 Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong?

[DennisPTate]

I personally am extremely glad that I was brought up out of Atheism by the teachings of Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong and his son Garner Ted.

If it were not for his approach to the Bible I would not have two clues about the hidden meaning in the Jewish Holy Days and Sabbaths. If it were not for his teachings I would not be aware that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in His resurrected body is bringing every word in the Law of Moses, and in the Prophets and in the Psalms to pass.

I believe that it was Messiah Yeshua - Jesus who brought the nation of Israel together and has already fulfilled many of the promises to the Jewish people.

Let's start with a really scary prediction by Messiah Yeshua - Jesus about himself.


Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.

39But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

40For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

41The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.

Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 12 - King James Version

At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn and to eat. But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day. But he said unto them...

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I personally think that it is very interesting that near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai was shown that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, [Isa the Prophet to Muslims], truly did go to hell for three days and three nights before His resurrection.

Kevin Zadai Th. D. "Touch of the Master's Hand" Level 1, chapter two :

"Even in the Book of Acts, Peter is quoting the Prophets and says, “You will not leave my soul in hell.” Peter quotes it in the Book of Acts that Jesus was in hell. You know, it's hard for people to grasp and they get upset. Jesus had to be turned over and punished for our sins. Which means He had to go to hell. He had to go to that lowest part where the most vilest person would go without intervention, and He had to intervene. He had to take the place of the vilest person that would ever live and die and go to hell so that He can redeem them. That's the biggest part of this. He's redeemed us, and He's carried our weaknesses. It says here He carried our weaknesses in verse four, it was our sorrows that weighed Him down. He carried everything that you're going through right now already. It says it weighed Him down. This is like a long time ago. He's already done it for you. So, no matter what you're going through right now, what you have gone through in the past, or what you're going to go through tomorrow that you don't even know about, He's already carried all that." [Near death experiencer Kevin Zadai Th. D., Touch of the Master's Hand" Level 1, chapter two].

[Near death experiencer Kevin Zadai Th. D.] : "Jesus shared with me about the time He spent in hell after dying on the cross. He said during the time He was cut off from the Father and the Holy Spirit, He experienced torment and punishment for everyone's sins so that we could escape the pain and punishment we deserve. no human being needs to go to hell because Jesus paid the debt created by all our sins.

He was extremely passionate when He talked about His anguish of separation from God. He said that He had to go deep within Himself to remember and rehearse His identity with the Father because circumstances were screaming the opposite.

ABANDONED BY GOD

Think about it: Jesus had never experienced a moment without the Father's presence until He was dying on the cross and uttered, "'Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?' that it, 'My God, My God, why have you forsaken Me?'" [Matthew 27:46] Satan thought he had defeated Jesus until He received the command from the Father to walk out of hell and take with Him the righteous dead. The Apostle Paul reported in the book of Ephesians, "When He ascended on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts to men" [Ephesians 4:8-9]. In Revelation 1:18, Jesus said of Himself, "I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death."

The Father promised Jesus that by His following through with the salvation plan, God would unite humanity with Him in a plan for their redemption. Jesus expressed to me with great emotion, in a broken voice, the anguish He went through for us and His great longing that I share its importance with everyone who would listen:
"And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2L8-11."

[Heavenly Visitation, Encountering the Supernatural Jesus, Outreach Edition, Kevin L. Zadai Th. D., page 15 - 17].

 

[TheInfiniteSadness]

I personally am extremely glad that I was brought up out of Atheism by the teachings of Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong and his son Garner Ted.

If it were not for his approach to the Bible I would not have two clues about the hidden meaning in the Jewish Holy Days and Sabbaths. If it were not for his teachings I would not be aware that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in His resurrected body is bringing every word in the Law of Moses, and in the Prophets and in the Psalms to pass.

I believe that it was Messiah Yeshua - Jesus who brought the nation of Israel together and has already fulfilled many of the promises to the Jewish people.

Let's start with a really scary prediction by Messiah Yeshua - Jesus about himself.


Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.



I personally think that it is very interesting that near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai was shown that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, [Isa the Prophet to Muslims], truly did go to hell for three days and three nights before His resurrection.

What were Moses' prophecies?

 

[DennisPTate]

What were Moses' prophecies?

Moses was given the Book of Genesis during one of those times of forty days in which Moses was in the presence of YHWH.

The predictions for all twelve tribes in Genesis chapters forty eight and forty nine of Genesis, are extremely important for our time perioid.

When you look up "The Torah Codes" you will know how Rabbi's in Jerusalem have information in advance of world events.

I found the Discovery Seminar's presentation on Bible Codes very convincing and it has captured my interest. How exactly do the Codes work?

The Aish Rabbi Replies​

According to some researchers, the Codes foretell names and places of events throughout human history: Holocaust, Sadat, AIDS. Torah Codes cannot tell us information we don't already know. But what they do tell us is that the author of the Torah knew minute details of world history, to our very age.

The concept of "encoded information" and a "hidden text" in the Torah is a longstanding Jewish tradition. Nachmanides, Rokeyach, the Maharal, the Vilna Gaon, and others refer in their writings to "hidden information in the letters of the Torah."

The reason why Codes have become more “popular” in our time is because modern statistical methods and computers have given us the ability to more easily discover and evaluate these codes.

Torah Codes Explained | Aish

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The Rabbi's in Jerusalem knew that 2016 was the time for them to write the following:

BIN EXCLUSIVE: Sanhedrin Asks Putin and Trump to Build Third Temple in Jerusalem

The Nascent Sanhedrin is calling on Russian President Vladmir Putin and US president-elect Donald Trump to join forces and fulfill their Biblically-mandated roles by rebuilding the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem.

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ADAM ELIYAHU BERKOWITZ​

Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong did prepare his readers to be able to handle the following idea. Somebody must fulfill Isaiah chapter forty five.

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f]MOSHIACH BEN YOSEPH​

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by Yair Davidiy​

The Two Messiahs​ <<Our Sacred Sages had a tradition that in the beginning [of the End Times] there would arise a Messiah [i.e. Anointed Saviour] from the house of Joseph who will reign over the Ten Tribes. He will wage wars and all of Israel will be gathered together under his banner. [This will continue] until later on, a descendant of David will appear and he will reign over them.... <<A transformation will take place. The Ten Tribes and the stick of Joseph will draw themselves closer unto the stick of Judah, and this too, will be through the agency of a Prophet and by miracles>>. The Commentary of "Malbim" on Ezekiel 37:15​ [FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The story of Joseph in the Bible is an historical account of what really did happen to Joseph, the ancestor of people in Britain and America, as well as other areas. The story of Joseph, in addition to being an historical account of what happened to a particular person named Joseph, is also symbolic of what will happen to his descendants. In Rabbinical tradition we have the concept of the “Mashiach ben Yoseph” (Messiah, son of Joseph), who will be a DESCENDANT OF JOSEPH. “Mashiach ben Yoseph” also represents the actions of the descendants of Joseph in the Last Days and the times leading up to these last days. In Jewish tradition there will be two Messiahs: “Mashiach ben Yoseph” (Messiah, son of Joseph), and “Mashiach ben David” (Messiah, son of David).​ The Two Messiahs​

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Since the founding of the State of Israel in 1948 the USA has often helped protect the State of Israel from destruction. The USA has not however really helped Israel expand her borders. On the contrary the USA has often forced Israel to give up territories it had liberated and to constrict her borders, but maybe that will change. Maybe the USA and Britain will help Israel expand her borders in the future as the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH is supposed to do. Ingathers the Exiles “Kol HaTor” says [2.40] “His [i.e. Joseph’s] bow abode in strength” (Genesis 49;24). This should be an important principle for us. We have to stand obstinately strong in the holy work of gathering in the exiles which is the task of the first redeemer [i.e. of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH]. Purifies the Land of Israel “Kol HaTor” says [2.41] “And Joseph was governor over the land” (Genesis 42;6). This means he will overcome all the forces of impurity. This is one of the great tasks of the First Redeemer [of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH]: to extirpate the spirit of impurity from the country by means of settling the Holy Land. When the Holy Land is not settled [with Israelites] a spirit of impurity settles over it. [When the Holy Land is settled with Israelites the Land becomes pure]. Joshua ben Nun Was a Forerunner “Kol HaTor” says [2.44]

The First Redeemer [MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH] fights against Amalek with total warfare…[he fights against the forces of anti-Semitism]. This was the task of Joshua ben Nun who was [a forerunner and ancestor of] the Messiah Son of Joseph. Aroused by Elijah “Kol HaTor” says [2.71] “Behold I will send you my prophet Elijah…and he will return the hearts of the fathers to their sons” (Malachi 4). One of the tasks of Elijah is to arouse the spirit of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH. Comment:

[Malachi 4:5] BEHOLD, I WILL SEND YOU ELIJAH THE PROPHET BEFORE THE COMING OF THE GREAT AND DREADFUL DAY OF THE LORD: [Malachi 4:6] AND HE SHALL TURN THE HEART OF THE FATHERS TO THE CHILDREN, AND THE HEART OF THE CHILDREN TO THEIR FATHERS, LEST I COME AND SMITE THE EARTH WITH A CURSE.

Messiah son of Joseph

A near death experiencer from Uganda does a great job of explaining hidden meaning in Isaiah chapter forty five for our time period.

Eporu Ronald Alfred

Kakira Deliverance Church,
P.O. Box 3191, Kakira, Jinja, Uganda

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Dear brethren,
I salute you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ!

RE: SHARING NEW DISCOVERIES OF THE TRUTH IN BIBLE PROPHECY CONCERNING THE IMMINENT HEALING AND UNITY OF THE CHURCH

I am mesmerized by the truth in bible prophecy that the Spirit of God has been revealing over the recent years. Secret things belong to God and those that are revealed belong to us and our children... (Deut 29: 29).

1. King Cyrus the great ruled his country 555 years Before Christ i.e. from 576 BC to 530 BC and authorised the rebuilding of the second temple in Jerusalem. Cyrus of the Old Testament is hence associated with the number 555 and is the shadow figure of incoming Cyrus II of the New Testament. You may learn more about his history from the internet and scriptures. This new truth enables us to identify the leadership of the world that will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem as prophesied in book of Isaiah before the rise of antichrist. Cyrus II is coming to revive the evangelical/Pentecostal church in Jerusalem and restore the headquarters of the church in same city where the church was born. He is set to strip Babylon of the vessels of the temple and the name of the Lord God and transfer that crown back to Jerusalem thus leaving Babylon naked. Cyrus will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem in fulfilment of the prophecy of Jesus as written in the book of John 2:18-23 and the prophecy of Isaiah as written in chapters 40, 41, 45 and 47 of the book of Isaiah. Jesus regarded the temple as the symbol of his own body while saying that he had the power to lay it down on the first day (1st millennium) and rebuild or raise it up on the 3rd day (3rd millennium). Remember that one day in the eyes of God is the same as one thousand years (millennium) as stated in book of 2 Peter 3:8. Rebuilding of the temple is thus associated with unification of the church.

Cyrus II will rebuild the temple in honour of our lord Jesus Christ. The temple will be the unifying (rallying) point of the world wide evangelical church as the original headquarters of the church. Psalms133 denotes that there is such a powerful anointing that comes along with unity among brethren. Unification of the whole body of Jesus Christ will make the church so powerful that she will overrun the world within a short time before the return of our lord Jesus Christ. A divided church is a powerless church whereas a united church is a powerful church. The church can only be able to fulfil her ultimate mission of revealing Jesus to the world once we get united as one body of Jesus Christ following his last prayer for his disciples as written in John 17:20-23.

Cyrus II will erase that false image of Jesus that the counterfeit and Idolatrous state church of Babylon has been projecting around the world and revive the original church that projects the true brilliant image of Jesus Christ. Haggai 2:9 says that the glory of the latter church (temple) will be greater than the glory of the former church (temple).The rise of Cyrus will also usher in the ultimate fulfilment of the prophecy of Joel 2:28 where God intends to pour out His Spirit on all flesh in these last days. The era of Cyrus brings the gentile period of grace to its close and leads to the restoration of the Jewish period of grace and salvation.




2. King Manasseh was the shadow figure (forerunner) of the antichrist in the Old Testament who ruled over Jerusalem exactly 666 years Before Christ i.e. from 697 BC to 642 BC. (2 chronicle 33: 1-2 and 2 kings 21: 1-17). Antichrist is associated with the number 666 as written in the book of Revelation 13:18. Manasseh was the most evil king to have ever ruled over the city of Jerusalem and kingdom of Judah.

Manasseh is reported to have killed so many innocent people in Jerusalem that the streets of Jerusalem were flowing with blood; he worshiped pagan idols and stars; he built pagan alters for idols and stars in the very courtyards of the temple; he sacrificed his sons to idols; he consulted diviners and mediums; he even set up an abominable pagan image at the temple that causes desolation just as the incoming antichrist will do. It was on that basis that God decided to have that first temple destroyed completely since Manasseh had desecrated it.



3. Prophet Jonah was the shadow figure (forerunner) of Jesus Christ in the Old Testament who undertook his prophetic ministry around 777 B.C. Prophet Jonah is hence associated with the number 777. He arose from the shadow and demise of Prophet Elisha. His preaching radiated such great power and authority that turned the city of Nineveh as the rising super power of that time up side down within 3 days only (read the book of Jonah). Jonah was the prophetic force behind the restoration of the lost territories of Israel in the reign of King Jeroboam II of Israel between 782 BC and 741 BC as written in II Kings 14:25. Jonah related with God more or less as his own father and God loved him more or less as His own son. He volunteered to die save occupants of the ship and was raised to life after three days just like Jesus Christ. Jesus compared himself with Jonah as his forerunner in the Old Testament as far as his earthly ministry, death and resurrection was concerned in Mathew 12; 38-41, Luke 11; 29-32. Jesus will also oversee the restoration of the lost territories of Israel just like prophet Jonah when he comes to rule as the king of kings and Lord of Lords. We can therefore correctly associate Jesus Christ with the number 777 just like Jonah as our commander-in-chief, Lord of the Sabbath and fountain of life.

The more we know where we came from the more we know where we are going. You are cordially invited to visit my face book home page for more information and messages. Feel free to share this truth with other brethren just as I received it free of charge from God.

Your brother in Christ

Eporu Ronald
Scientist & Minister of Bible Prophecy

 

[Carl in Michigan]

HWA was a man who craved the TRUTH. He was right about so much.
At one time many thought we were much closer to the Great Tribulation than we were and that He was one of the Two Witnesses.

It seems he prepared the way for their coming, but the time wasn't right.

He died never really seeing how corrupt and morally bankrupt this country would be.

Yes, no prophecy will go unfulfilled though we may not really understand them until after they came to pass.

 

[DennisPTate]

HWA was a man who craved the TRUTH. He was right about so much.
At one time many thought we were much closer to the Great Tribulation than we were and that He was one of the Two Witnesses.

It seems he prepared the way for their coming, but the time wasn't right.

He died never really seeing how corrupt and morally bankrupt this country would be.

Yes, no prophecy will go unfulfilled though we may not really understand them until after they came to pass.

I believe that you are correct in every statement that you made here Carl.

I agree with you totally that Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong craved the TRUTH!

I used to drive from Guysborough County, Nova Scotia on several Saturdays each week to attend the Worldwide Church of God in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia. Pastor Jack Kost was one of the deepest thinkers who I have ever heard expound on the Christian and Jewish Bibles.

I also totally agree with you that Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong set the stage for the final two witnesses of the Book of Revelation who a near death experiencer was shown were going to be the Prophet Elijah and the Prophet and Patriarch Enoch, [who wrote The Book of Enoch that was a part of the Christian scriptures for about four centuries]!

The Book of Enoch, Chapters 1-60

Books of Enoch

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Chapter 1​

1The word of the blessing of Enoch, how he blessed the elect and the righteous, who were to exist in the time of trouble; rejecting all the wicked and ungodly. Enoch, a righteous man, who was (1) with God, answered and spoke, while his eyes were open, and while he saw a holy vision in the heavens. This the angels showed me.

(1) N.B. The italicized words supply a gap in the text.


2From them I heard all things, and understood what I saw; that which will not take place in this generation, but in a generation which is to succeed at a distant period, on account of the elect.


3Upon their account I spoke and conversed with him, who will go forth from his habitation, the Holy and Mighty One, the God of the world:


4Who will hereafter tread upon Mount Sinai; appear with his hosts; and be manifested in the strength of his power from heaven.


5All shall be afraid, and the Watchers be terrified.


6Great fear and trembling shall seize them, even to the ends of the earth. The lofty mountains shall be troubled, and the exalted hills depressed, melting like a honeycomb in the flame. The earth shall be immerged, and all things which are in it perish; while judgment shall come upon all, even upon all the righteous:


7But to them shall he give peace: he shall preserve the elect, and towards them exercise clemency.


8Then shall all belong to God; be happy and blessed; and the splendour of the Godhead shall illuminate them.

Pastor Jack Kost obituary:

Jack Kost Obituary - Victoria, BC

Celebrate the life of Jack Kost, leave a kind word or memory and get funeral service information care of First Memorial Funeral Services & Garden of Memories.

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In most of Pastor Kost's sermons there was a theme that he repeated again and again and again and again that our Creator knows when we get up in the morning, every step that we take all day long, and every thought and every emotion that we have and the motives for our thoughts.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I believe that you are correct in every statement that you made here Carl.

I agree with you totally that Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong craved the TRUTH!

I used to drive from Guysborough County, Nova Scotia on several Saturdays each week to attend the Worldwide Church of God in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia. Pastor Jack Kost was one of the deepest thinkers who I have ever heard expound on the Christian and Jewish Bibles.

I also totally agree with you that Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong set the stage for the final two witnesses of the Book of Revelation who a near death experiencer was shown were going to be the Prophet Elijah and the Prophet and Patriarch Enoch, [who wrote The Book of Enoch that was a part of the Christian scriptures for about four centuries]!

The Book of Enoch, Chapters 1-60

Books of Enoch

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Pastor Jack Kost obituary:

Jack Kost Obituary - Victoria, BC

Celebrate the life of Jack Kost, leave a kind word or memory and get funeral service information care of First Memorial Funeral Services & Garden of Memories.

www.dignitymemorial.com

In most of Pastor Kost's sermons there was a theme that he repeated again and again and again and again that our Creator knows when we get up in the morning, every step that we take all day long, and every thought and every emotion that we have and the motives for our thoughts.

There were some great ministers in that organization. The ones I knew were really gifted speakers.

Bruce Vance was my local pastor until his death in an automobile accident.

I miss my early days with these people

 

[DennisPTate]

There were some great ministers in that organization. The ones I knew were really gifted speakers.

Bruce Vance was my local pastor until his death in an automobile accident.

I miss my early days with these people

Yes, I miss the Worldwide Church of God myself. Lately I have taken online course after online course by near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai. In some important ways I feel that what he was shown is even part of the fulfillment of:

But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.


Daniel 12

Bible Gateway passage: Daniel 12 - King James Version

And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written...

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and

20The anger of the Lord shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly." [Jeremiah 23:20]

I believe that the Genius Master Plan that our Creator has for all of us could not be fully understood until our time period.

 

[DennisPTate]

What were Moses' prophecies?

In Luke chapter 24 verse twenty five Messiah Yeshua - Jesus stated that his listeners or readers were fools and slow of heart to believe in ALL THAT THE PROPHETS spoke and wrote!

That is a pretty serious prediction for our time period now. In all five books of Moses the FOUNDATION for PROPHECY is given because if we will obey the words of Moses we will have blessings but if we ignore and rebel against Moses we will have CURSES!


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"Actually I believe that YOU are the one who is rejecting the words of Jesus! I believe that it is YOU who does not even take the Red Letter words of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus seriously!

If you will pray about this....
and if YOU will raise your right hand in the air and quote the first five verses of Isaiah chapter forty five, and ask for Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to take YOU by the right hand and guide you, so that you do not lead people astray, then Jesus will begin to show you error after error after error in YOUR way of thinking, [and both you and I are still full of error in our thinking that may be as small as "gnats" in the wine but we need the help of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to repent and learn.

YOU do not believe that the Parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man fits perfectly with the near death experience account of former Atheist Howard Storm, and / or former Atheist Rabbi Alon Anava, BECAUSE YOU HAVE MADE THE TEACHINGS OF PASTOR GENERAL HERBERT W. ARMSTRONG INTO AN IDOL!!!!! In a way the near death experiencer of nominal Christian Robert Marshall also fits with the Parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man because Robert Marshall has been sent back to warn ALL EIGHT BILLION OF US!

In a way your situation sets you up to write a book that could easily become a best seller if you will honestly ask Jesus for wisdom and understanding and correction of your errors. ALL OF US, MYSELF INCLUDED, STILL HAVE LOTS OF ERRORS, LOTS OF "FLIES IN THE OINTMENT" or wine that we are teaching even here on United States Message Board!?

In 1990, just after Yom Kippur, I personally literally stuck my right hand up in the air and I quoted Isaiah chapter forty five in a paraphrase and I begged for Jesus to take me by the right hand and show me where I was wrong, and for the next ten years I was shown error after error after error after error after error in all my ideas and beliefs on how to understand the Bible from Genesis to Revelation.

Yes, Jesus mostly used near death experience accounts to teach me what I had wrong!

You seem to be ignoring the obvious critical truths in 2 Corinthians 12 verses one to five? I have also been there, done that, and I also have that T-shirt!

12 It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord.

2;I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth such an one caught up to the third heaven.

3;And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth

4;How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

5;Of such an one will I glory: yet of myself I will not glory, but in mine infirmities.

Bible Gateway passage: 2 Corinthians 12 - King James Version

It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. And I knew...

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Are the majority of Christian Pastors TERRIFIED of John and Carol Arnott?​

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NDEs are NOT biblical. They're no more biblical than those who preach heaven I is the reward of the saved.

I've been gentle with you but you're promoting false doctrine. I have no idea why you're so enamored with this nonsense but you SHOULD know better.

The BIBLE is not your source of knowledge but the failed beliefs of humans who have experienced NEAR death (NOT actual death).

Actually I believe that YOU are the one who is rejecting the words of Jesus! I believe that it is YOU who does not even take the Red Letter words of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus seriously!

If you will pray...

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JUST YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE, I THOUGHT OF ANOTHER ANGLE ON ALL OF THIS, PERHAPS IT WAS MARK ZUCKERBERG'S BOTS WHO WERE SCARED OF JOHN AND CAROL ARNOTT? MARK ZUCKERBERG and his team have developed bots that know how to prevent interviews like that of Pastors John and Carol Arnott with former Atheist and near death experiencer Mr. Ian McCormack from going VIRAL ALL over the internet!