Palin's Tea Party address very successful

[Cold Fusion38]

Her speech a failure?

Hardly. Her speech was well received by those in which it was intended for. Which makes it a success by any objective definition.

Just because I think she is an idiot doesn't mean that I see any reason to ridicule and belittle every damn thing she does. As a matter of fact, I wish you liberals would just shut up about her. Her shelf life would be greatly diminished if you would just move on from the whole anti-Palin-scrutinize-every-thing-she-does-thing.

I don't think you understand, we WANT her to remain "relevant" since she is a total FOOL. We WANT her to be the face of the TP movement because she is a JOKE and she will drag down ANY movement she is associated with. Do you get it? Do you understand that we are not afraid of Palin we LIKE Palin because she will DRIVE INDYS AWAY! Now she scares me because she is a ZEALOT and I think she encourages more people to be ZEALOTS (abortion bombers)but she is and will REMAIN politically irrelevant as a candidate.

 

[clevergirl]

Why is it when I say "non-whites" you think I am only referring to blacks? How many Latinos did you see there?

Aye-carumba! 60% of the hispanic vote was for Obama. So, again, in a crowd of 600 people how many "person's of color" do you think would have been a reasonable representation...please. Truly your question is not only mere provacative chain yanking, but with the voter demographics not even relevent.

Well let's see we are up to AT LEAST 270 out of 600 and we haven't even included ASIANS yet so what is your point?

Another can't unerstand percentages smart ass.

Here's how the vote broke down.

65,182,692 for Obama, and 57,212,032 for McCain.

73% "White"
9% "Hispanic"
2% "Asian"
3% "Other"
13% "Black."

McCain received 58,343,671 votes (CNN) and 52,431,522 of his votes were from Whites, that's also 90% of his base and 41.4% of those voting. Likewise 10% of his base were 'not White' voters, 5% of the 2008 Electorate.

Now try the math genius.

 

[mik]

Fox broadcast the Palin address tonight. It was very well received by the group and captured what the party stands for and wants to acccomplish. The Tea Party wishes to be identified as:

1. A mainstream group of Independents.
2. Wanting a return to Constitutional government.
3. Supporting limited government.
4. Demanding fiscal conservatism.
5. Abandoning apologetic diplomacy.
6. Keeping a strong military.
7. Seeing power return to the people.

Very troubling! Just "More of the Same?"

 

[Foxfyre]

Sarah Palin is the female version of Ronald Reagan. I've heard her state that she is a member of the Republican party--while her husband Todd is a registered independant.

Regardless of pary affiliation--I think we can both agree it's conservatives that the tea party movement wants. We don't want moderate to liberal republicans.

And let's face it--when just the mention of Sarah Palin's name can get liberals panties tied up in a wade---you know you've got a home run hitter.

We really are on the same page, Oreo. I like Sarah a great deal too, and I sure am not about to throw her under the bus as some of our less committed colleagues seem hell bent on doing. I agree when they pour as much venom on her as they do, she must REALLY have something good going for her.

Our only quarrel is that we can't allow ourselves to be like those who defend their guy or their party or their ideology no matter how flawed it might be. You want the Nashville event to be okay. So do I. But unless we understand image, perception, and demands for honesty, integrity, and conviction, we won't win the hearts and minds of those we need to have in order to win.

I've devoted a good chunk of my life doing promotion and communications. And I'm tellin you, the Nashville event may very well have hurt us in that goal as much as it helped. We need to listen to and hear those who are on OUR side who know that. One event can't even slow us down, but if we refuse to acknowledge where we get it wrong and continue to repeat mistakes once we realize them, we will sink ourselves.

It is exactly unwillingness to admit mistakes and change course that has put our government in the shape it is today, and it has made us vulnerable to people who have none of our best interests at heart.

Well this is why I think Palin is the wrong choice for now...maybe later once they work out of the growing pains. Also I fear all the wolves that will come in sheep clothing just to get the votes and throw them under the bus.

Thats all, I'm not totally down on Palin, but rather I'm more for the success of the movement and I fear how fragile it is right now that nothing fracture it. Taking a big risk with palin as spokes person I think anyway.

Well, I'll think about that. But I just don't see anybody with the power to pull media attention and provoke strong emotion like she can do. That is a powerful force in any election IF she can keep free of any significant scandal and IF she doesn't have a major misstep which so far she hasn't. So for that reason, if her heart and mind stay correctly focused, and her passion translates into honest conviction, she may in fact be our girl. I don't think she is hurting us, but if she doesn't start balking at participating in the 'elite' image projected by the Nashville gathering, she will hurt us. She, like many of us, needs to keep it grass roots and for the everyday American.

I did listen to a commentary by Geraldine Ferraro in the last couple of days. She expressed admiration for Sarah but said that if she does decide to become a candidate for national office, she really needs to start hitting the books and getting up to full speed on state, national, and international history, issues, and initiatives so that she doesn't get blindsided on those.

Barack Obama was the most undereducated candidates on world history and issues that we've ever had run for President, but the Left was so in love with him they didn't care. The Tea Partiers will not forgive their candidate for that though.

 

[sboyle24]

Barack Obama was the most undereducated candidates on world history and issues that we've ever had run for President, but the Left was so in love with him they didn't care. The Tea Partiers will not forgive their candidate for that though.
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Prove it?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Orly Taitz showed up.

 

[Foxfyre]

Barack Obama was the most undereducated candidates on world history and issues that we've ever had run for President, but the Left was so in love with him they didn't care. The Tea Partiers will not forgive their candidate for that though.
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Prove it?

Well he didn't know what language was spoken in Afghanistan. He didn't know what authority the U.N. Security Council has. And if he doesn't have a loaded teleprompter with him, he refuses to take any questions about international issues at all. There is an active thread right now recounting all his faux pas regarding international protocol. Here's Jihad Watch's commentary on his naive understandings exposed in his Nobel Prize acceptance speech: Obama wins the Nobel Prize for Ignorance of Islam - Jihad Watch

That's probably enough for starters.

Perhaps you could list a few areas in which he has been brilliant and/or successful or displayed keen insight and understanding in his international dealings.

 

[sboyle24]

Barack Obama was the most undereducated candidates on world history and issues that we've ever had run for President, but the Left was so in love with him they didn't care. The Tea Partiers will not forgive their candidate for that though.
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Prove it?

Well he didn't know what language was spoken in Afghanistan. He didn't know what authority the U.N. Security Council has. And if he doesn't have a loaded teleprompter with him, he refuses to take any questions about international issues at all. There is an active thread right now recounting all his faux pas regarding international protocol. Here's Jihad Watch's commentary on his naive understandings exposed in his Nobel Prize acceptance speech: Obama wins the Nobel Prize for Ignorance of Islam - Jihad Watch

That's probably enough for starters.

Perhaps you could list a few areas in which he has been brilliant and/or successful or displayed keen insight and understanding in his international dealings.

There is too little "keen insight" in your response to deserve a counter. In fact, there is nothing notable.
Most people in the United States couldn't point out Afghanistan, Iraq, or Iran on a map! You're going to ding him for not knowing the spoken language of Afghanistan? Do you expect him to speak Arabic fluently as well? Maybe that should be a prerequisite for president, Speaks Arabic fluently.
I suppose you didn't care the McCain couldn't tell the difference between Iraq and Iran during his campaign...

 

[froggy]

If we could get the Tea Party to get rid of the parties (Reps and Dems) maybe we could save america.

 

[sboyle24]

If we could get the Tea Party to get rid of the parties (Reps and Dems) maybe we could save america.

I'll bring the beer.

 

[froggy]

Do we get to dump the politicians in the river this time?

 

[Foxfyre]

Barack Obama was the most undereducated candidates on world history and issues that we've ever had run for President, but the Left was so in love with him they didn't care. The Tea Partiers will not forgive their candidate for that though.
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Prove it?

Well he didn't know what language was spoken in Afghanistan. He didn't know what authority the U.N. Security Council has. And if he doesn't have a loaded teleprompter with him, he refuses to take any questions about international issues at all. There is an active thread right now recounting all his faux pas regarding international protocol. Here's Jihad Watch's commentary on his naive understandings exposed in his Nobel Prize acceptance speech: Obama wins the Nobel Prize for Ignorance of Islam - Jihad Watch

That's probably enough for starters.

Perhaps you could list a few areas in which he has been brilliant and/or successful or displayed keen insight and understanding in his international dealings.

There is too little "keen insight" in your response to deserve a counter. In fact, there is nothing notable.
Most people in the United States couldn't point out Afghanistan, Iraq, or Iran on a map! You're going to ding him for not knowing the spoken language of Afghanistan? Do you expect him to speak Arabic fluently as well? Maybe that should be a prerequisite for president, Speaks Arabic fluently.
I suppose you didn't care the McCain couldn't tell the difference between Iraq and Iran during his campaign...

You're darn right I expect him to know what language is spoken in Afghanistan when we have boots on the ground in harms way there, and he is criticizing George Bush about not transferring Arabic translators from Iraq to Afghanistan where they were 'really needed'. And I expect him to know what authority the UN Security Council has when he demands that it do something in a Middle East crisis. There's a limit to just how stupid I want our national leader to appear to be.

The security, diplomacy, and well being of the country doesn't depend on the average American knowing that stuff. It does depend on the President knowing it or making damn sure he gets accurate information from his staff.

And why don't we discuss a McCain candidacy when it is appropriate to do that instead of deflecting from what is most likely an uncomfortable subject for you.

 

[sboyle24]

Do we get to dump the politicians in the river this time?

I was hoping we could send them out on the Atlantic in a raft, but river it is.

 

[sboyle24]

Well he didn't know what language was spoken in Afghanistan. He didn't know what authority the U.N. Security Council has. And if he doesn't have a loaded teleprompter with him, he refuses to take any questions about international issues at all. There is an active thread right now recounting all his faux pas regarding international protocol. Here's Jihad Watch's commentary on his naive understandings exposed in his Nobel Prize acceptance speech: Obama wins the Nobel Prize for Ignorance of Islam - Jihad Watch

That's probably enough for starters.

Perhaps you could list a few areas in which he has been brilliant and/or successful or displayed keen insight and understanding in his international dealings.

There is too little "keen insight" in your response to deserve a counter. In fact, there is nothing notable.
Most people in the United States couldn't point out Afghanistan, Iraq, or Iran on a map! You're going to ding him for not knowing the spoken language of Afghanistan? Do you expect him to speak Arabic fluently as well? Maybe that should be a prerequisite for president, Speaks Arabic fluently.
I suppose you didn't care the McCain couldn't tell the difference between Iraq and Iran during his campaign...

You're darn right I expect him to know what language is spoken in Afghanistan when we have boots on the ground in harms way there, and he is criticizing George Bush about not transferring Arabic translators from Iraq to Afghanistan where they were 'really needed'. And I expect him to know what authority the UN Security Council has when he demands that it do something in a Middle East crisis. There's a limit to just how stupid I want our national leader to appear to be.

The security, diplomacy, and well being of the country doesn't depend on the average American knowing that stuff. It does depend on the President knowing it or making damn sure he gets accurate information from his staff.

And why don't we discuss a McCain candidacy when it is appropriate to do that instead of deflecting from what is most likely an uncomfortable subject for you.

Some of us prefer, especially during a recession, someone who is more domestically intelligent than internationally. Seems rational, no?

 

[Foxfyre]

There is too little "keen insight" in your response to deserve a counter. In fact, there is nothing notable.
Most people in the United States couldn't point out Afghanistan, Iraq, or Iran on a map! You're going to ding him for not knowing the spoken language of Afghanistan? Do you expect him to speak Arabic fluently as well? Maybe that should be a prerequisite for president, Speaks Arabic fluently.
I suppose you didn't care the McCain couldn't tell the difference between Iraq and Iran during his campaign...

You're darn right I expect him to know what language is spoken in Afghanistan when we have boots on the ground in harms way there, and he is criticizing George Bush about not transferring Arabic translators from Iraq to Afghanistan where they were 'really needed'. And I expect him to know what authority the UN Security Council has when he demands that it do something in a Middle East crisis. There's a limit to just how stupid I want our national leader to appear to be.

The security, diplomacy, and well being of the country doesn't depend on the average American knowing that stuff. It does depend on the President knowing it or making damn sure he gets accurate information from his staff.

And why don't we discuss a McCain candidacy when it is appropriate to do that instead of deflecting from what is most likely an uncomfortable subject for you.

Some of us prefer, especially during a recession, someone who is more domestically intelligent than internationally. Seems rational, no?

Well there is no way to separate a domestic economy from a world one these days. But I really don't think you want to go there either given the President's track record on that so far. It ain't good.

 

[sboyle24]

You're darn right I expect him to know what language is spoken in Afghanistan when we have boots on the ground in harms way there, and he is criticizing George Bush about not transferring Arabic translators from Iraq to Afghanistan where they were 'really needed'. And I expect him to know what authority the UN Security Council has when he demands that it do something in a Middle East crisis. There's a limit to just how stupid I want our national leader to appear to be.

The security, diplomacy, and well being of the country doesn't depend on the average American knowing that stuff. It does depend on the President knowing it or making damn sure he gets accurate information from his staff.

And why don't we discuss a McCain candidacy when it is appropriate to do that instead of deflecting from what is most likely an uncomfortable subject for you.

Some of us prefer, especially during a recession, someone who is more domestically intelligent than internationally. Seems rational, no?

Well there is no way to separate a domestic economy from a world one these days. But I really don't think you want to go there either given the President's track record on that so far. It ain't good.

So far, people believe it isn't good. Also so far, people have proved they don't know shit about the economy either. Definitely connected.

 

[geauxtohell]

Fox broadcast the Palin address tonight. It was very well received by the group and captured what the party stands for and wants to acccomplish. The Tea Party wishes to be identified as:

1. A mainstream group of Independents.
2. Wanting a return to Constitutional government.
3. Supporting limited government.
4. Demanding fiscal conservatism.
5. Abandoning apologetic diplomacy.
6. Keeping a strong military.
7. Seeing power return to the people.

Silly teabaggers. You aren't fooling anybody.

 

[geauxtohell]

Orly Taitz showed up.

She did? I guess she has to do something now that all of her cases are in the shitter.

 

[Cold Fusion38]

Didn't Palin have some problem with knowing Africa was a continent?

 

[Cold Fusion38]

Oh and Taitz is a lunatic.