Palestinians Deny Jewish Connection to Jerusalem

[jillian]

Well, you have to wonder if some guy from Poland had any connection to Jerusalem in the 1920s.

Wonder if any Ayrabs had any connection to Jerusalem before Mo-Hamhead was spawned?

Can't all Abrahamic religions claim some connection to Jerusalem?

no. there's really no connection between jerusalem and islam. it isn't mentioned a single time in the koran. yet it forms the center of judaism in the talmud and christianity in the new testament.

Interesting I didn't know that.

I wonder who are the descendants of the Canaanites? I believe they would have an older claim to whatever the hell Jerusalem was thousands of years ago.

i think it's correct they'd be the phoenicians.

 

[theliq]

Well, you have to wonder if some guy from Poland had any connection to Jerusalem in the 1920s.

Wonder if any Ayrabs had any connection to Jerusalem before Mo-Hamhead was spawned?

Can't all Abrahamic religions claim some connection to Jerusalem?

no. there's really no connection between jerusalem and islam. it isn't mentioned a single time in the koran. yet it forms the center of judaism in the talmud and christianity in the new testament.

Interesting I didn't know that.

I wonder who are the descendants of the Canaanites? I believe they would have an older claim to whatever the hell Jerusalem was thousands of years ago.

i think it's correct they'd be the phoenicians.

Yawn

 

[Roudy]

I wonder what connection Indonesians, Pakistanis, or Somalis have to Mecca Saudi Arabia?

 

[rylah]

It's beyond simple- You sign a contract to buy an apartment and pay it.
After giving your soul to that soul and building a couple of extra room and a huge fireplace in the living room, You're taken to jail. Your son stays and grows there, You come back and taken again for a sit.
In the meanwhile a bunch of punks marks the house for low level of protection, but to be safe they take Your father's lawyer who copies the original contract by memory so that it looks similar only in a narrow way nd suddenly there're new paragraphs stating that Your father initially had a condition for You upon living in his home- his promise wasn't everlasting as stated in the original document. So Your son politely (out of weakness) let's them into the empty rooms. And when paps comes home- he BUYS his home AGAIN- room by room. But of course everybody wants the money, not the obligations. So You go to the king and he settles on a partition oa the house- such a thoughtful king. But Your cowoners got used to the magnificent FIREPLACE a get their guns out. Father humiliates them and kicks them out (after paying twice) still giving their most wounded a room to heal. But they of course run whining to the king declaring the KING HIMSElF didn't have any right on that issue because there were times when they were the majority at home. They keep hining and paps kicks 'em a couple more times, so you still whine BUT THIS TIME YOU COME TO the SON and tell him he has no history with that FIREPLACE...could be a grandson or further-doesn't matter there's a SIGnED CONTRACT.

They lied so mch that they almost believe their own lies...well what's Your position on that? Do You even get excited? Or start explaining them what is a contract showing the receits You've got from them?

 

[Phoenall]

Well, you have to wonder if some guy from Poland had any connection to Jerusalem in the 1920s.

Did his second cousin whose family had lived in Jerusalem from the first Temple have any connection. Did Ali ben nutjob from Mecca who went looking for work in 1890 have any connection to Jerusalem ?

 

[Phoenall]

Well, you have to wonder if some guy from Poland had any connection to Jerusalem in the 1920s.

Wonder if any Ayrabs had any connection to Jerusalem before Mo-Hamhead was spawned?

Can't all Abrahamic religions claim some connection to Jerusalem?

No as they have no links. Christianity is linked to Bethlehem, islam is linked to mecca and medina. So only Judaism has a link to Jerusalem

 

[Phoenall]

Well, you have to wonder if some guy from Poland had any connection to Jerusalem in the 1920s.

Wonder if any Ayrabs had any connection to Jerusalem before Mo-Hamhead was spawned?

Can't all Abrahamic religions claim some connection to Jerusalem?

no. there's really no connection between jerusalem and islam. it isn't mentioned a single time in the koran. yet it forms the center of judaism in the talmud and christianity in the new testament.

Interesting I didn't know that.

I wonder who are the descendants of the Canaanites? I believe they would have an older claim to whatever the hell Jerusalem was thousands of years ago.

That would be the Jews

 

[Phoenall]

Wonder if any Ayrabs had any connection to Jerusalem before Mo-Hamhead was spawned?

Can't all Abrahamic religions claim some connection to Jerusalem?

no. there's really no connection between jerusalem and islam. it isn't mentioned a single time in the koran. yet it forms the center of judaism in the talmud and christianity in the new testament.

Interesting I didn't know that.

I wonder who are the descendants of the Canaanites? I believe they would have an older claim to whatever the hell Jerusalem was thousands of years ago.

The Canaanites were Phoenicians, not Ayrabs.

Doesn't it make you feel completely ridiculous, to be bringing up Phoenicians and Canaanites in the 21st century? I did it as a joke. What religion were the Phoenicians? Is theirs the most correct one?

They where pagans

 

[montelatici]

Well, you have to wonder if some guy from Poland had any connection to Jerusalem in the 1920s.

Did his second cousin whose family had lived in Jerusalem from the first Temple have any connection. Did Ali ben nutjob from Mecca who went looking for work in 1890 have any connection to Jerusalem ?

The only people to move to Palestine in 1890 in any number were the European Jews. No one to speak of went to Palestine from Mecca. In fact, prior to 1850 there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

 

[MJB12741]

Hmmm! Who is stealing who's land? Well let's see now. Which came first? Solomon's Temple or the Al Aqsa Mosque?

 

[Phoenall]

Jerusalem belongs to the Jews. Why? Because dspite repeated attempts to make it otherwise Jews repelled every invading army and defeated every foe in battle.

If Jerusalem and Israel was anyone else's, God wouldn't be on their side now would he?

You forgot the Romans..........such a post should be thrown into the GARBAGE CAN OF THE INSANE

NOPE the Romans were just like the muslims belligerent violent invaders

 

[Phoenall]

The Pole was living in Poland and the Palestinian was living in Palestine. Is that a hint?

not really you live in America but it does not mean you have any links to America. In fact America has very little European archaeological records but plenty of Pueblo and first nation finds. How much 7c or earlier arab muslim remains can be found in Jerusalem, even the dome of the rock and al aqsa mosque are recent edifices.

 

[Phoenall]

Well, you have to wonder if some guy from Poland had any connection to Jerusalem in the 1920s.

Did his second cousin whose family had lived in Jerusalem from the first Temple have any connection. Did Ali ben nutjob from Mecca who went looking for work in 1890 have any connection to Jerusalem ?

The only people to move to Palestine in 1890 in any number were the European Jews. No one to speak of went to Palestine from Mecca. In fact, prior to 1850 there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

Proven to be false by the research done by the Catholic church


CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Jerusalem After 1291

"...Present condition of the City: (1907 edition)

Jerusalem (El Quds) is the capital of a sanjak and the seat of a mutasarrif directly dependent on the Sublime Porte. In the administration of the sanjak the mutasarrif is assisted by a council called majlis ida ra; the city has a municipal government (majlis baladiye) presided over by a mayor. The total population is estimated at 66,000. The Turkish census of 1905, which counts only Ottoman subjects, gives these figures:
Jews, 45,000; Moslems, 8,000; Orthodox Christians, 6000; Latins, 2500; Armenians, 950; Protestants, 800; Melkites, 250; Copts, 150; Abyssinians, 100; Jacobites, 100; Catholic Syrians, 50. During the Nineteenth century large suburbs to the north and east have grown up, chiefly for the use of the Jewish colony. These suburbs contain nearly Half the present population...""

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Growth of Jerusalem 1838-Present

....... Jews Muslims Christians Total
1838 6,000 5,000 3,000 14,000
1844 7,120 5,760 3,390 16,270 ..... ..The First Official Ottoman Census
1876 12,000 7,560 5,470 25,030 .... .....Second """"""""""
1905 40,000 8,000 10,900 58,900 ....... Third/last, detailed in CathEncyc above
1948 99,320 36,680 31,300 167,300
1990 353,200 124,200 14,000 491,400
1992 385,000 150,000 15,000 550,000

http://www.testimony-magazine.org/jerusalem/bring.htm



Go to the new address at the top of the link

 

[Phoenall]

Hmmm! Who is stealing who's land? Well let's see now. Which came first? Solomon's Temple or the Al Aqsa Mosque?

The al aqsa mosque was not built until 35 years after Mohamed died. The Temple was built over 7 centuries before he was whelped

 

[montelatici]

Hmmm! Who is stealing who's land? Well let's see now. Which came first? Solomon's Temple or the Al Aqsa Mosque?

Roman amphitheaters, villas, temples and baths pre-date any mosque in the Middle East or North Africa. What does that mean and what rights would it give to the descendants of the Romans?

 

[rylah]

Well, you have to wonder if some guy from Poland had any connection to Jerusalem in the 1920s.

Did his second cousin whose family had lived in Jerusalem from the first Temple have any connection. Did Ali ben nutjob from Mecca who went looking for work in 1890 have any connection to Jerusalem ?

The only people to move to Palestine in 1890 in any number were the European Jews. No one to speak of went to Palestine from Mecca. In fact, prior to 1850 there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

So there were Hebrews in Judea that time let's move on, were there Hebrew families living IN Jerusalem? I know at least one family personally (not from Europe but Yemen). So while there were a few Hebrews there, other Hebrews faced each day the direction of Jerusalem during the prayers- all around the world. Muslims accept that Solomon built a temple there.Of course they say it was a mosque...hm interesting does it look like one? Do they have a well detailed construction plan for that or is it that their mosque stands on the evidence of that exact plan? So did this argument turn suddenly to "who was in the majority?"

 

[rylah]

Hmmm! Who is stealing who's land? Well let's see now. Which came first? Solomon's Temple or the Al Aqsa Mosque?

Roman amphitheaters, villas, temples and baths pre-date any mosque in the Middle East or North Africa. What does that mean and what rights would it give to the descendants of the Romans?

Not more than those rights we have over Jordan, parts of Egypt and Syria.

There were millions of jews in Russia who gave their lives for its' protection, do they have a claim on that territory? Or maybe muslims should claim Kazan for there are a lot of mosques? Well I don't think Russians need to prove anything to live by other nationalities. "It's just the jew who's religion is fundamental to whole of western society and he refuses to extinct so we can live in peace with our deluded selves."

 

[montelatici]

Well, you have to wonder if some guy from Poland had any connection to Jerusalem in the 1920s.

Did his second cousin whose family had lived in Jerusalem from the first Temple have any connection. Did Ali ben nutjob from Mecca who went looking for work in 1890 have any connection to Jerusalem ?

The only people to move to Palestine in 1890 in any number were the European Jews. No one to speak of went to Palestine from Mecca. In fact, prior to 1850 there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

Proven to be false by the research done by the Catholic church


CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Jerusalem After 1291

"...Present condition of the City: (1907 edition)

Jerusalem (El Quds) is the capital of a sanjak and the seat of a mutasarrif directly dependent on the Sublime Porte. In the administration of the sanjak the mutasarrif is assisted by a council called majlis ida ra; the city has a municipal government (majlis baladiye) presided over by a mayor. The total population is estimated at 66,000. The Turkish census of 1905, which counts only Ottoman subjects, gives these figures:
Jews, 45,000; Moslems, 8,000; Orthodox Christians, 6000; Latins, 2500; Armenians, 950; Protestants, 800; Melkites, 250; Copts, 150; Abyssinians, 100; Jacobites, 100; Catholic Syrians, 50. During the Nineteenth century large suburbs to the north and east have grown up, chiefly for the use of the Jewish colony. These suburbs contain nearly Half the present population...""

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Growth of Jerusalem 1838-Present

....... Jews Muslims Christians Total
1838 6,000 5,000 3,000 14,000
1844 7,120 5,760 3,390 16,270 ..... ..The First Official Ottoman Census
1876 12,000 7,560 5,470 25,030 .... .....Second """"""""""
1905 40,000 8,000 10,900 58,900 ....... Third/last, detailed in CathEncyc above
1948 99,320 36,680 31,300 167,300
1990 353,200 124,200 14,000 491,400
1992 385,000 150,000 15,000 550,000

http://www.testimony-magazine.org/jerusalem/bring.htm



Go to the new address at the top of the link

Besides confirming the high rate of migration to Palestine by the Europeans, what does the population of Jerusalem have to do with the population of Palestine?

 

[rylah]

Who said they migrated? Do You have an actual document of the British or Ottoman empire dividing those between migrants and long term inhabitants?

And what's the significance of Jerusalem to so called by romans palestin?

 

[montelatici]

The Pole was living in Poland and the Palestinian was living in Palestine. Is that a hint?

not really you live in America but it does not mean you have any links to America. In fact America has very little European archaeological records but plenty of Pueblo and first nation finds. How much 7c or earlier arab muslim remains can be found in Jerusalem, even the dome of the rock and al aqsa mosque are recent edifices.

Are you claiming that Poles were not living in Poland?

The people of Palestine were Christians prior to about 7 AD. After which, they adopted the Arabic language (became Arabs culturally) and many converted to Islam.