'Palestinian'

[Shusha]

Not to worry; Israel, including its occupation of Palestinian Territories, is on borrowed time.

Eloy, you have said this, and many things like it before. I am going to take you at face value and see you as an existential threat.

This is what the Jewish people are fighting against -- a threat to our existence.

 

[Shusha]

The creation of Israel was a unilateral move by the Zionists. It had nothing to do with the Mandate or the UN.

Oh, give me a break.

Jewish National Home/Jewish State. You know full well those words are included in both Mandate and UN documents. What was it, magic? Some sort of Jewish power which gives us the ability to put words in legal documents unilaterally, without the author's and signatories knowledge? Bamn! Abracadabra, after everything was drafted, read, signed and ratified, suddenly those words appeared? Are you auditioning to help write J.K. Rowling's new book?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The creation of Israel was a unilateral move by the Zionists. It had nothing to do with the Mandate or the UN.

Oh, give me a break.

Jewish National Home/Jewish State. You know full well those words are included in both Mandate and UN documents. What was it, magic? Some sort of Jewish power which gives us the ability to put words in legal documents unilaterally, without the author's and signatories knowledge? Bamn! Abracadabra, after everything was drafted, read, signed and ratified, suddenly those words appeared? Are you auditioning to help write J.K. Rowling's new book?

Jewish National Home. You know full well those words are included in both Mandate and UN documents.

Indeed, and they both flopped.

 

[Shusha]

Flopped how? Um. You ARE aware that Israel is actually a State, right? In every possible sense of the word.

Let's go back to this:

"Jewish National Homeland". The Jewish people acquired the right to re-constitute their national homeland in the territory of Mandate Palestine. They were one of the peoples in the Mandate territory and as such as a legal right to hold sovereignty. Indeed, they were the only peoples to acquire rights in that specific territory. Further, they realized that right, as required by the Mandate, by developing the ability to stand alone, create a government. And further, that right was recognized by the international community by acceptance into the UN and enter into diplomatic relations with other sovereign nations.

historical indigenous right + realization + recognition. Done deal. Get on with it.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Flopped how? Um. You ARE aware that Israel is actually a State, right? In every possible sense of the word.

Let's go back to this:

"Jewish National Homeland". The Jewish people acquired the right to re-constitute their national homeland in the territory of Mandate Palestine. They were one of the peoples in the Mandate territory and as such as a legal right to hold sovereignty. Indeed, they were the only peoples to acquire rights in that specific territory. Further, they realized that right, as required by the Mandate, by developing the ability to stand alone, create a government. And further, that right was recognized by the international community by acceptance into the UN and enter into diplomatic relations with other sovereign nations.

historical indigenous right + realization + recognition. Done deal. Get on with it.

Yeah, I have heard all of that crap before.
The creation of Israel was a unilateral move with no legitimacy from anyone.

 

[Hollie]

Flopped how? Um. You ARE aware that Israel is actually a State, right? In every possible sense of the word.

Let's go back to this:

"Jewish National Homeland". The Jewish people acquired the right to re-constitute their national homeland in the territory of Mandate Palestine. They were one of the peoples in the Mandate territory and as such as a legal right to hold sovereignty. Indeed, they were the only peoples to acquire rights in that specific territory. Further, they realized that right, as required by the Mandate, by developing the ability to stand alone, create a government. And further, that right was recognized by the international community by acceptance into the UN and enter into diplomatic relations with other sovereign nations.

historical indigenous right + realization + recognition. Done deal. Get on with it.

Yeah, I have heard all of that crap before.
The creation of Israel was a unilateral move with no legitimacy from anyone.

You have heard all that crap before and you choose to ignore history. The creation of Israel was the fulfillment of the Mandate.

Your insensate anger is a reflection of Islamist ideology: revulsion for Jews and the ability of the Jewish people to define their future via self-determination.

It is Arab incompetence and their inability form a functioning government that causes you such angst.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Flopped how? Um. You ARE aware that Israel is actually a State, right? In every possible sense of the word.

Let's go back to this:

"Jewish National Homeland". The Jewish people acquired the right to re-constitute their national homeland in the territory of Mandate Palestine. They were one of the peoples in the Mandate territory and as such as a legal right to hold sovereignty. Indeed, they were the only peoples to acquire rights in that specific territory. Further, they realized that right, as required by the Mandate, by developing the ability to stand alone, create a government. And further, that right was recognized by the international community by acceptance into the UN and enter into diplomatic relations with other sovereign nations.

historical indigenous right + realization + recognition. Done deal. Get on with it.

Yeah, I have heard all of that crap before.
The creation of Israel was a unilateral move with no legitimacy from anyone.

You have heard all that crap before and you choose to ignore history. The creation of Israel was the fulfillment of the Mandate.

Your insensate anger is a reflection of Islamist ideology: revulsion for Jews and the ability of the Jewish people to define their future via self-determination.

It is Arab incompetence and their inability form a functioning government that causes you such angst.

The government of Israel was created by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization against he wishes of the vast majority of the people. Of the 37 people who signed the declaration of independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of settlers. They were all foreign colonial settlers.

Israel is a foreign colonial power occupying Palestine. It is still rejected by a vast majority of the people.

 

[Hollie]

Flopped how? Um. You ARE aware that Israel is actually a State, right? In every possible sense of the word.

Let's go back to this:

"Jewish National Homeland". The Jewish people acquired the right to re-constitute their national homeland in the territory of Mandate Palestine. They were one of the peoples in the Mandate territory and as such as a legal right to hold sovereignty. Indeed, they were the only peoples to acquire rights in that specific territory. Further, they realized that right, as required by the Mandate, by developing the ability to stand alone, create a government. And further, that right was recognized by the international community by acceptance into the UN and enter into diplomatic relations with other sovereign nations.

historical indigenous right + realization + recognition. Done deal. Get on with it.

Yeah, I have heard all of that crap before.
The creation of Israel was a unilateral move with no legitimacy from anyone.

You have heard all that crap before and you choose to ignore history. The creation of Israel was the fulfillment of the Mandate.

Your insensate anger is a reflection of Islamist ideology: revulsion for Jews and the ability of the Jewish people to define their future via self-determination.

It is Arab incompetence and their inability form a functioning government that causes you such angst.

The government of Israel was created by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization against he wishes of the vast majority of the people. Of the 37 people who signed the declaration of independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of settlers. They were all foreign colonial settlers.

Israel is a foreign colonial power occupying Palestine. It is still rejected by a vast majority of the people.

Tissue?


Give us your best cut and paste diatribe on the muhammedan colonists who invaded your invented "country of Pal'istan.

Obviously, you believe Arab-Islamist invaders / colonists have an entitlement.

 

[Shusha]

And hey, we all know that human rights should only apply to majorities. Jeez, the next thing you know women will want to vote or something.

 

[rylah]

Flopped how? Um. You ARE aware that Israel is actually a State, right? In every possible sense of the word.

Let's go back to this:

"Jewish National Homeland". The Jewish people acquired the right to re-constitute their national homeland in the territory of Mandate Palestine. They were one of the peoples in the Mandate territory and as such as a legal right to hold sovereignty. Indeed, they were the only peoples to acquire rights in that specific territory. Further, they realized that right, as required by the Mandate, by developing the ability to stand alone, create a government. And further, that right was recognized by the international community by acceptance into the UN and enter into diplomatic relations with other sovereign nations.

historical indigenous right + realization + recognition. Done deal. Get on with it.

Yeah, I have heard all of that crap before.
The creation of Israel was a unilateral move with no legitimacy from anyone.

The legitimacy came from the Jews themselves, and the recognition of their historical rights on that land.

You have a problem with the National Homeland for Jews. That's all.
Don't dance around it.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Flopped how? Um. You ARE aware that Israel is actually a State, right? In every possible sense of the word.

Let's go back to this:

"Jewish National Homeland". The Jewish people acquired the right to re-constitute their national homeland in the territory of Mandate Palestine. They were one of the peoples in the Mandate territory and as such as a legal right to hold sovereignty. Indeed, they were the only peoples to acquire rights in that specific territory. Further, they realized that right, as required by the Mandate, by developing the ability to stand alone, create a government. And further, that right was recognized by the international community by acceptance into the UN and enter into diplomatic relations with other sovereign nations.

historical indigenous right + realization + recognition. Done deal. Get on with it.

Yeah, I have heard all of that crap before.
The creation of Israel was a unilateral move with no legitimacy from anyone.

You have heard all that crap before and you choose to ignore history. The creation of Israel was the fulfillment of the Mandate.

Your insensate anger is a reflection of Islamist ideology: revulsion for Jews and the ability of the Jewish people to define their future via self-determination.

It is Arab incompetence and their inability form a functioning government that causes you such angst.

The government of Israel was created by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization against he wishes of the vast majority of the people. Of the 37 people who signed the declaration of independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of settlers. They were all foreign colonial settlers.

Israel is a foreign colonial power occupying Palestine. It is still rejected by a vast majority of the people.

Tissue?


Give us your best cut and paste diatribe on the muhammedan colonists who invaded your invented "country of Pal'istan.

Obviously, you believe Arab-Islamist invaders / colonists have an entitlement.

For hundreds of years there was no settler colonialism. During that time nobody made any claim to regain their lost land.

It looks like you are promoting a hoax.

 

[rylah]

Flopped how? Um. You ARE aware that Israel is actually a State, right? In every possible sense of the word.

Let's go back to this:

"Jewish National Homeland". The Jewish people acquired the right to re-constitute their national homeland in the territory of Mandate Palestine. They were one of the peoples in the Mandate territory and as such as a legal right to hold sovereignty. Indeed, they were the only peoples to acquire rights in that specific territory. Further, they realized that right, as required by the Mandate, by developing the ability to stand alone, create a government. And further, that right was recognized by the international community by acceptance into the UN and enter into diplomatic relations with other sovereign nations.

historical indigenous right + realization + recognition. Done deal. Get on with it.

Yeah, I have heard all of that crap before.
The creation of Israel was a unilateral move with no legitimacy from anyone.

You have heard all that crap before and you choose to ignore history. The creation of Israel was the fulfillment of the Mandate.

Your insensate anger is a reflection of Islamist ideology: revulsion for Jews and the ability of the Jewish people to define their future via self-determination.

It is Arab incompetence and their inability form a functioning government that causes you such angst.

The government of Israel was created by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization against he wishes of the vast majority of the people. Of the 37 people who signed the declaration of independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of settlers. They were all foreign colonial settlers.

Israel is a foreign colonial power occupying Palestine. It is still rejected by a vast majority of the people.

Your 'foreign' card doesn't work. Everything 'Palestinian' is foreign to the land, it's Arab Muslim colonialism, Palestinians are still ruled by foreign Arabian royalty.

Everything about the term 'Palestinian' is synonymous with the continuation of colonialism, Arab or European whatever.
National Home for Jews is the antidote. And a good example for the many indigenous minorities living under Arab Muslim rule.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Flopped how? Um. You ARE aware that Israel is actually a State, right? In every possible sense of the word.

Let's go back to this:

"Jewish National Homeland". The Jewish people acquired the right to re-constitute their national homeland in the territory of Mandate Palestine. They were one of the peoples in the Mandate territory and as such as a legal right to hold sovereignty. Indeed, they were the only peoples to acquire rights in that specific territory. Further, they realized that right, as required by the Mandate, by developing the ability to stand alone, create a government. And further, that right was recognized by the international community by acceptance into the UN and enter into diplomatic relations with other sovereign nations.

historical indigenous right + realization + recognition. Done deal. Get on with it.

Yeah, I have heard all of that crap before.
The creation of Israel was a unilateral move with no legitimacy from anyone.

You have heard all that crap before and you choose to ignore history. The creation of Israel was the fulfillment of the Mandate.

Your insensate anger is a reflection of Islamist ideology: revulsion for Jews and the ability of the Jewish people to define their future via self-determination.

It is Arab incompetence and their inability form a functioning government that causes you such angst.

The government of Israel was created by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization against he wishes of the vast majority of the people. Of the 37 people who signed the declaration of independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of settlers. They were all foreign colonial settlers.

Israel is a foreign colonial power occupying Palestine. It is still rejected by a vast majority of the people.

Your 'foreign' card doesn't work. Everything 'Palestinian' is foreign to the land, it's Arab Muslim colonialism, Palestinians are still ruled by foreign Arabian royalty.

Everything about the term 'Palestinian' is synonymous with the continuation of colonialism, Arab or European whatever.
National Home for Jews is the antidote. And a good example for the many indigenous minorities living under Arab Muslim rule.

You wouldn't have links to all that crap?

I didn't think so.

 

[Hollie]

Flopped how? Um. You ARE aware that Israel is actually a State, right? In every possible sense of the word.

Let's go back to this:

"Jewish National Homeland". The Jewish people acquired the right to re-constitute their national homeland in the territory of Mandate Palestine. They were one of the peoples in the Mandate territory and as such as a legal right to hold sovereignty. Indeed, they were the only peoples to acquire rights in that specific territory. Further, they realized that right, as required by the Mandate, by developing the ability to stand alone, create a government. And further, that right was recognized by the international community by acceptance into the UN and enter into diplomatic relations with other sovereign nations.

historical indigenous right + realization + recognition. Done deal. Get on with it.

Yeah, I have heard all of that crap before.
The creation of Israel was a unilateral move with no legitimacy from anyone.

You have heard all that crap before and you choose to ignore history. The creation of Israel was the fulfillment of the Mandate.

Your insensate anger is a reflection of Islamist ideology: revulsion for Jews and the ability of the Jewish people to define their future via self-determination.

It is Arab incompetence and their inability form a functioning government that causes you such angst.

The government of Israel was created by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization against he wishes of the vast majority of the people. Of the 37 people who signed the declaration of independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of settlers. They were all foreign colonial settlers.

Israel is a foreign colonial power occupying Palestine. It is still rejected by a vast majority of the people.

Tissue?


Give us your best cut and paste diatribe on the muhammedan colonists who invaded your invented "country of Pal'istan.

Obviously, you believe Arab-Islamist invaders / colonists have an entitlement.

For hundreds of years there was no settler colonialism. During that time nobody made any claim to regain their lost land.

It looks like you are promoting a hoax.

The hoax is yours. The history of your Magical Kingdom of Disney Pally'land is one of Turkish Islamist and Arab-Islamist invasion and colonialism. For hundreds of years, there certainly was settler colonialism and it was Arab-Islamist.

I can attribute your refusal to acccept that not merely as ignorance; it has been explained to you in excruciating detail, but also as strident and willful denial on your part to accept reality.

 

[rylah]

Flopped how? Um. You ARE aware that Israel is actually a State, right? In every possible sense of the word.

Let's go back to this:

"Jewish National Homeland". The Jewish people acquired the right to re-constitute their national homeland in the territory of Mandate Palestine. They were one of the peoples in the Mandate territory and as such as a legal right to hold sovereignty. Indeed, they were the only peoples to acquire rights in that specific territory. Further, they realized that right, as required by the Mandate, by developing the ability to stand alone, create a government. And further, that right was recognized by the international community by acceptance into the UN and enter into diplomatic relations with other sovereign nations.

historical indigenous right + realization + recognition. Done deal. Get on with it.

Yeah, I have heard all of that crap before.
The creation of Israel was a unilateral move with no legitimacy from anyone.

You have heard all that crap before and you choose to ignore history. The creation of Israel was the fulfillment of the Mandate.

Your insensate anger is a reflection of Islamist ideology: revulsion for Jews and the ability of the Jewish people to define their future via self-determination.

It is Arab incompetence and their inability form a functioning government that causes you such angst.

The government of Israel was created by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization against he wishes of the vast majority of the people. Of the 37 people who signed the declaration of independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of settlers. They were all foreign colonial settlers.

Israel is a foreign colonial power occupying Palestine. It is still rejected by a vast majority of the people.

Your 'foreign' card doesn't work. Everything 'Palestinian' is foreign to the land, it's Arab Muslim colonialism, Palestinians are still ruled by foreign Arabian royalty.

Everything about the term 'Palestinian' is synonymous with the continuation of colonialism, Arab or European whatever.
National Home for Jews is the antidote. And a good example for the many indigenous minorities living under Arab Muslim rule.

You wouldn't have links to all that crap?

I didn't think so.

I need a link to what, that 'Palestinian' = Jews have no right to this land?


Tell us who were the nations that voted against it?

 

[montelatici]

Orwellian for sure. Self described colonists, the Zionist Jews from Europe, are the colonized while the colonized native people are the colonized according to Rylah, hilarious. You couldn't make this stuff up.

 

[Hollie]

Orwellian for sure. Self described colonists, the Zionist Jews from Europe, are the colonized while the colonized native people are the colonized according to Rylah, hilarious. You couldn't make this stuff up.

It really is comical how you attempt to portray the Turkish invaders / colonists, the European xtian invaders / colonists and the Egyptian, Syrian and Lebanese squatters / land grabbers as the "native people".

Only The Monty can make that stuff up.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Yeah, I have heard all of that crap before.
The creation of Israel was a unilateral move with no legitimacy from anyone.

You have heard all that crap before and you choose to ignore history. The creation of Israel was the fulfillment of the Mandate.

Your insensate anger is a reflection of Islamist ideology: revulsion for Jews and the ability of the Jewish people to define their future via self-determination.

It is Arab incompetence and their inability form a functioning government that causes you such angst.

The government of Israel was created by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization against he wishes of the vast majority of the people. Of the 37 people who signed the declaration of independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of settlers. They were all foreign colonial settlers.

Israel is a foreign colonial power occupying Palestine. It is still rejected by a vast majority of the people.

Tissue?


Give us your best cut and paste diatribe on the muhammedan colonists who invaded your invented "country of Pal'istan.

Obviously, you believe Arab-Islamist invaders / colonists have an entitlement.

For hundreds of years there was no settler colonialism. During that time nobody made any claim to regain their lost land.

It looks like you are promoting a hoax.

The hoax is yours. The history of your Magical Kingdom of Disney Pally'land is one of Turkish Islamist and Arab-Islamist invasion and colonialism. For hundreds of years, there certainly was settler colonialism and it was Arab-Islamist.

I can attribute your refusal to acccept that not merely as ignorance; it has been explained to you in excruciating detail, but also as strident and willful denial on your part to accept reality.

So, how many people attempted to reclaim their land in the last few hundred years?

My understanding it that it is none.

 

[Eloy]

Of course you won't look it up. The one thing that is consistent about Zionists is that they refuse to learn anything. It shows in their posts.

Hilarious from the guy who keeps saying "Israel has no land", despite mountains of evidence against that claim.

Funny, show me one piece of evidence that Israel legally acquired any land.

Not to worry; Israel, including its occupation of Palestinian Territories, is on borrowed time.

Why do you say that?

What I mean is that the democracies such as the European Union will shun or boycott Israel when its true apartheid nature is understood.

When the USA was the leading democracy, other advanced countries were in its orbit. Because the Israel Lobby is so strong in the United States, I believe European democracies and Australia were led into the trap of treating Israel as a free and democratic state, one like the rest of us. Political cover was provided for Israel by the USA and the Europeans did not kick up a fuss when the Palestinian civilians were being massacred in Gaza or Jewish settlements continued to steal Palestinian land in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.

The USA will never go against its Jewish protegé but sometime (I do not know when) the other democracies which people call the "West" nowadays, will act independently and quit looking to America for permission to hold contrary policies. With the election of Donald Trump, this development will be sped up. Freed from America, the Free World will not be afraid to face up to the apartheid nature of Zionism and its creation, the Jewish State of Israel (including Judea and Sumeria as well as Gaza). Moral support for the Israeli Occupation of Palestine, the massacres of the people in Gaza and the restriction of Muslims to reservations in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, will be replaced by a resolve to cut all ties with the Jewish state and leave it to the USA alone to back it up. I am positive the Americans feel capable enough to do that.

But this idea of Apartheid Israel as a Jewish satellite of the USA is not sustainable in the long run. The Americans will eventually come to their senses. In any event, the rest of us will stop the pretense that Israel is a normal country and that will be that.

 

[Eloy]

Not to worry; Israel, including its occupation of Palestinian Territories, is on borrowed time.

Eloy, you have said this, and many things like it before. I am going to take you at face value and see you as an existential threat.

This is what the Jewish people are fighting against -- a threat to our existence.

Please read Post #756 to understand that the threat to the Jewish State of Israel comes from within. Yes, it is just like the movie on the horror channel when the telephone operator says, "That call comes from inside the house."