P F Tinmore,
You have to read this --- every word carefully.
(Apparently, you are confuse with the mening of "lie.")
P F Tinmore, et al,
I agree, 100%.
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The UN Charter stipulates that ALL peoples have the "equal rights and self-determination."
Have you heard the legal expression "Your right to swing your fist stops at the end of my nose?"
Everybody has rights, but
nobody has the "right" to violate the rights of others.
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Thus the Arab Palestinian right to swing ends at asymmetric warfare.
No one denied the Arab Palestinians any rights. They just have never exercised them at the optimum time. And remember, the Arab Palestinian has no right to obstruct the Israel Right to Self-determination.
The title and rights to the territory went to the Allied Powers.
The Allied Powers set the conditions for immigration and the establishment of a Jewish National Home.
The Arabs did not like it.
The Arabs began a low intensity conflict.
The Jewish exercised their right to self-determination and declared independence.
The Arab low intensity conflict blossomed into a greater war support by the Arab League to achieve what they could not political acquire.
The Israeli's defeat the Arab contingent.
The Arab Palestinians refuse to make peace.
TheArabs periodically instigate conflict and blame it on the Israeli's
There it is.
Most Respectfully,
R
The title and rights to the territory went to the Allied Powers.
That is a lie. The Allied Powers held the territory in trust for the inhabitants.
The rest of your post is a crock of shit based on your false premise.
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There is no "FAILS PREMISE." By Treaty, the future of these territories
(renounced by the Ottoman/Turks --- to which the Mandate would apply) were to be settled by the Allied Powers
(see Article 16 below).
Nothing in the Treaty of Lausanne or the League of Nations Covenant
(not even Article 22) extends a promise to the Arab Palestinians; for anything. While the word "trust" is used in the covenant, as in "sacred trust" --- this refers to the "the reliance in the honesty," --- as in "a the sacred trust of civilization" --- OR --- strength and ability in the "performance of this trust." All focused on the "principle that the well-being and development;" which in most cases the Arab Palestinian rejected (three times before 1923). THIS IS NOT the same thing as confidence placed in a Mandatory by making that authority the nominal government over the of territory. And further, it is not even close to: 1) should be entrusted to advanced nations; 2) will entrust the League. And when Article 22 talks about "Certain communities formerly belonging to the Turkish Empire," --- it does not actually mention which "certain communities." Nothing in Article 22 is a promise to the Arab Palestinian. The territory did not go into Trust with the UN until
18 April 1946, when the League transfers all its assets to the United Nations
(Article 77 Charter).
The three most relevant documents: 1) the
Mudros Armistice (1918) Article 16,; 2) the
Treaty of Sevres (1920) Article 132, and of course; 3) 1923 Peace Conference of Lausanne. All historic documents say substantially the same thing:
ARTICLE 16.
Treaty of Lausanne: Part I --- Political Clauses
Turkey hereby renounces all rights and title whatsoever over or respecting the territories situated outside the frontiers laid down in the present Treaty and the islands other than those over which her sovereignty is recognized by the said Treaty, the future of these territories and islands being settled or to be settled by the parties concerned.
As you can see quite clearly, the Treaty relinquishes the "Title and Rights" of the former Sovereign
(Ottoman/Turkish Empire) to the Allied Powers. The Treaty of Lausanne, nor any party thereto, is not hostage to Article 22. The Covenant does not speak to the Arab Palestinians. The Covenant is an arrangement between the members of the League; with any disputes resolved by decision of the League. Disputes that arise between a 1) Member of the League and a State which is not a Member of the League, or 2) between States not Members of the League, 3) the State or States not Members of the League are resolved pursuant to the provisions of Articles 12 to 16 inclusive. At no time, during the life of the Covenant, were the Arab Palestinians ever included. They were non-state actors until 1988; but the UN becoming the successor in 1945.
Most Respectfully,
R