Palestine Today

[Ropey]

4 Iranian Jews and a couple of Iranians... and from 2015? And from such a site? You really do get around when you're angry that Jews and Arabs might get along.

It's not what the left want at all.

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It ain't looking good PF.

Just saying.

 

[Ropey]

If people revolt, they’ll throw us to the sea: Iran senior official

 

[Ropey]

Iran, this week.

The basij are being beaten and taken to task by the Iranian people themselves. Iranian girls sneaking into a football stadium dressed as a boys. ‎When bad laws ban women from entering stadiums, Iranian women will not wait for the law to be changed.



From within.

The marxists are not impressed.

 

[rylah]

Frankly , one of Your funniest posts ever.
Some ridiculousness simply can't be taken without a chuckle.

Just wonder what would happen to Sanders once he wore a big Star of David and approached Gaza for everyone to see.

edit: but then again picturing Sanders with Star of David, however sad - is a joke in itself.

If You only remotely cared about facts You'd find that:

The umbrella group, comprised of Satmar, Bobov, Belz, Vizhnitz, Munkacz, Kiryas Joel, Monroe, and other communities - many of them openly and sharply critical of Zionism - termed the PLO sympathizers "evil associates of our enemies."

The statement continued:

"...their depiction in the local and international media in religious garb and prayer shawls marching arm-in-arm with Palestinian Jew-haters has besmirched the reputations of hundreds of thousands of decent Orthodox, hareidi and Hassidic Jews worldwide.

Umbrella Group of Orthodox Condemn Hareidi PLO-Sympathizers: Condemnation of Hareidi PLO Sympathizers :: Jewish Media Resources
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On the other hand, a native Jerusalemite Rabbi:

During the War of Independence in 1948, a number of yeshiva
students came to Rabbi Uziel to obtain exemptions from military service.
He rejected their requests and said that if he were not already an
old man himself, he would be holding a gun and hand grenade, fighting
to defend the Old City of Jerusalem where he was born and raised.
This was a battle of life and death for the people of Israel. How could
anyone want to be exempted from fighting this great battle? On the
contrary, each person should rise to the occasion and give strength to
his fellow soldiers. He told the yeshiva students that it was a mitsvah for
them to join in the defense of their people, to risk their lives alongside
their brothers, to defend the Jewish people and the Jewish land. [11]

If You only cared about facts...
Then again I forget that when it's convenient for You folks, Hamas Jihadis waving a Swastika - magically turn into greatest Jew lovers and highest Jewish authority...

 

[P F Tinmore]

4 Iranian Jews and a couple of Iranians... and from 2015? And from such a site? You really do get around when you're angry that Jews and Arabs might get along.

It's not what the left want at all.

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It ain't looking good PF.

Just saying.

Where do you get the idea that Palestinians hate Jews?

Israeli propaganda bullshit?

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

4 Iranian Jews and a couple of Iranians... and from 2015? And from such a site? You really do get around when you're angry that Jews and Arabs might get along.

It's not what the left want at all.

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It ain't looking good PF.

Just saying.

Where do you get the idea that Palestinians hate Jews?

Israeli propaganda bullshit?

Well really, Chuckles, your Korans are drenched in Jew hatreds.

Is it coincidence that the Hamas Charter and the PA both celebrate and enjoin the poius Arab-Moslem toward the destruction of Israel and the celebration of Jew killing?

 

[Ropey]

4 Iranian Jews and a couple of Iranians... and from 2015? And from such a site? You really do get around when you're angry that Jews and Arabs might get along.

It's not what the left want at all.

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It ain't looking good PF.

Just saying.

Where do you get the idea that Palestinians hate Jews?

Israeli propaganda bullshit?

Then why do you not like the idea of Isaac and Ishmael working together?

Aren't the Palestinians of the tribes of Ishmael?

Hmm?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Ghada Karmi at the Edinburgh International Book Festival

 

[P F Tinmore]

ICAHD UK 2015 Conference Salma Karmi Ayyoub

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Ghada Karmi opens her take with what she describes as an iconic image.

⇒ The KEY across an open palm.
​

It is a representation of the keys to the homes they left behind in the initial outbreak of hostilities in 1948.

Ghada Karmi at the Edinburgh International Book Festival

(COMMENT)

You really need to go no further. This is a claim on Israeli sovereignty for maybe 60,000 (maybe much less). You would have to be:

✪ A persons whose normal place of residence was Palestine during the period 1 June 1946 to 15
May 1948,
✪ A person who lost both:

• Home
• Livelihood
​

✪ The lost of each was a direct result of the 1948 conflict.​

Whoever, the territory Dr Ghada Karmi was referring to in the book was not under the sovereignty of the Arab Palestinians; and the Jordanians and Egyptians took possession of each respectively.

A war was fought over the issues and the subsequent treaties resolved the sovereignty, which now imposes Israeli Law as it has become a domestic issue.

By the beginning of the nineteenth century, the basic rule concerning the post-War victor (to the victor goes the spoils) had changed considerably; but the right of those victorious in battle to change borders and transfer populations of conquered countries was enshrined in Customary Law, and internationally recognized.

At the conclusion of Great War (WWI) the Senior of the Allied Powers negotiated the Versailles and Lausanne Treaty and forced Axis Powers to accept it. This treaty changed borders of the defeated nations and moved populations. Their right to do so was never really questioned.

Several of the Allied Powers met in San Remo in 1920 to make disposition of the Ottoman Empire. The Ottoman Empire was broken-up into various countries as willed by the Allied Powers.

The Arab Palestinians and other Arabs refuse to accept that the victorious powers had the right to create the conditions that would ultimately establish The State of Israel through their right of self-determination. Although the 1948 Israeli War of Independence was fought and the post-War Settlements went through the process of an Armistice and Peace Treaty, the Arab Palestinians are still fighting an insurgency.

Dr Karmi, like so many other Arab Palestinians, are trying to apply future law with decision made prior. You cannot apply 21st Century law and concepts to 19th century practices.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Ghada Karmi opens her take with what she describes as an iconic image.

⇒ The KEY across an open palm.
​

It is a representation of the keys to the homes they left behind in the initial outbreak of hostilities in 1948.

Ghada Karmi at the Edinburgh International Book Festival

(COMMENT)

You really need to go no further. This is a claim on Israeli sovereignty for maybe 60,000 (maybe much less). You would have to be:

✪ A persons whose normal place of residence was Palestine during the period 1 June 1946 to 15
May 1948,
✪ A person who lost both:

• Home
• Livelihood
​

✪ The lost of each was a direct result of the 1948 conflict.​

Whoever, the territory Dr Ghada Karmi was referring to in the book was not under the sovereignty of the Arab Palestinians; and the Jordanians and Egyptians took possession of each respectively.

A war was fought over the issues and the subsequent treaties resolved the sovereignty, which now imposes Israeli Law as it has become a domestic issue.

By the beginning of the nineteenth century, the basic rule concerning the post-War victor (to the victor goes the spoils) had changed considerably; but the right of those victorious in battle to change borders and transfer populations of conquered countries was enshrined in Customary Law, and internationally recognized.

At the conclusion of Great War (WWI) the Senior of the Allied Powers negotiated the Versailles and Lausanne Treaty and forced Axis Powers to accept it. This treaty changed borders of the defeated nations and moved populations. Their right to do so was never really questioned.

Several of the Allied Powers met in San Remo in 1920 to make disposition of the Ottoman Empire. The Ottoman Empire was broken-up into various countries as willed by the Allied Powers.

The Arab Palestinians and other Arabs refuse to accept that the victorious powers had the right to create the conditions that would ultimately establish The State of Israel through their right of self-determination. Although the 1948 Israeli War of Independence was fought and the post-War Settlements went through the process of an Armistice and Peace Treaty, the Arab Palestinians are still fighting an insurgency.

Dr Karmi, like so many other Arab Palestinians, are trying to apply future law with decision made prior. You cannot apply 21st Century law and concepts to 19th century practices.

Most Respectfully,
R

Palestinian children are Palestinians. Their nationality ties them to that territory.

 

[P F Tinmore]

the Arab Palestinians are still fighting an insurgency.

Fighting in their own territory is an insurgency?

 

[rylah]

4 Iranian Jews and a couple of Iranians... and from 2015? And from such a site? You really do get around when you're angry that Jews and Arabs might get along.

It's not what the left want at all.

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It ain't looking good PF.

Just saying.

Where do you get the idea that Palestinians hate Jews?

Israeli propaganda bullshit?

Psalms.

Frankly, seeing how desperately ridiculous You are willing to go to deny the evident -only shows how clear it is. You can only try to fool Yourself.
Then again one could open a whole thread on it and there would be daily updates to prove that from the horse's mouth.

For one, Swastika in one's backyard sends a pretty clear sign. Open calls to go die while murdering Jews doesn't fall short - You Yourself posted those videos .

 

[Mindful]

Arab Historian Admits there is No Palestinian People
When the Ottoman rule ended, there was no Palestinian national identity or political borders. It was all made up later. Arabs themselves say so, but the west isn't listening
EN.MIDA.ORG.IL

 

[Hollie]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Ghada Karmi opens her take with what she describes as an iconic image.

⇒ The KEY across an open palm.
​

It is a representation of the keys to the homes they left behind in the initial outbreak of hostilities in 1948.

Ghada Karmi at the Edinburgh International Book Festival

(COMMENT)

You really need to go no further. This is a claim on Israeli sovereignty for maybe 60,000 (maybe much less). You would have to be:

✪ A persons whose normal place of residence was Palestine during the period 1 June 1946 to 15
May 1948,
✪ A person who lost both:

• Home
• Livelihood
​

✪ The lost of each was a direct result of the 1948 conflict.​

Whoever, the territory Dr Ghada Karmi was referring to in the book was not under the sovereignty of the Arab Palestinians; and the Jordanians and Egyptians took possession of each respectively.

A war was fought over the issues and the subsequent treaties resolved the sovereignty, which now imposes Israeli Law as it has become a domestic issue.

By the beginning of the nineteenth century, the basic rule concerning the post-War victor (to the victor goes the spoils) had changed considerably; but the right of those victorious in battle to change borders and transfer populations of conquered countries was enshrined in Customary Law, and internationally recognized.

At the conclusion of Great War (WWI) the Senior of the Allied Powers negotiated the Versailles and Lausanne Treaty and forced Axis Powers to accept it. This treaty changed borders of the defeated nations and moved populations. Their right to do so was never really questioned.

Several of the Allied Powers met in San Remo in 1920 to make disposition of the Ottoman Empire. The Ottoman Empire was broken-up into various countries as willed by the Allied Powers.

The Arab Palestinians and other Arabs refuse to accept that the victorious powers had the right to create the conditions that would ultimately establish The State of Israel through their right of self-determination. Although the 1948 Israeli War of Independence was fought and the post-War Settlements went through the process of an Armistice and Peace Treaty, the Arab Palestinians are still fighting an insurgency.

Dr Karmi, like so many other Arab Palestinians, are trying to apply future law with decision made prior. You cannot apply 21st Century law and concepts to 19th century practices.

Most Respectfully,
R

Palestinian children are Palestinians. Their nationality ties them to that territory.

You do not understand the terms nationality and territory.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

No, you get this wrong every single time.

What is NATIONALITY?Featuring Black's Law Dictionary Free Online Legal Dictionary 2nd Ed.
That quality or character which arises from the fact of a person’s belonging to a nation or state. Nationality determines the political status of the individual, especially with reference to allegiance; while domicile determines his civil status. Nationality arises either by birth or by naturalization. According to Savigny, “nationality” is also used as opposed to “territoriality,” for the purpose of distinguishing the case of a nation having no national territory; e. g., the Jews. 8 Sav. Syst.
​

Palestinian children are Palestinians. Their nationality ties them to that territory.

(COMMENT)

You get your nationality from your nation or state of citizenship.

The Palestine of today is not the Palestine (the entity) of pre-May 15th 1948, or that immediately after 15 May 1948 (the entity).

You have this notion, and you WILL NOT, for the life of me, read the official references that explain what "Palestine" means.

While I don't expect to enlighten you, you should not attempt to corrupt other people with these fanciful notions.

Fighting in their own territory is an insurgency?

(COMMENT)

The State of Israel is an officially recognized state, with the international borders as defined by the Treaties between Jordan, Egypt and the State of Israel. Any attempt, by the Arab Palestinians of the Gaza Strip or the West Bank, to breach the borders as established by Israel are clear violations of international law.

• Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (ICC) •
Article 8 (2b) War crimes
(iv) Intentionally launching an attack in the knowledge that such attack will cause incidental loss of life or injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects or widespread, long-term and severe damage to the natural environment which would be clearly excessive in relation to the concrete and direct overall military advantage anticipated; (Related to the older A/RES/2/110)

• Resolution adopted by the General Assembly 3314 (XXIX). Definition of Aggression •
Article 1
Aggression is the use of armed force by a State against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of another State, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Charter of the United Nations, as set out in this Definition.

• Resolution adopted by the General Assembly 110 (II). Measures to be taken against propaganda and the inciters of a new war •
1.

Condemns all forms of propaganda, in whatsoever country conducted, which is either designed or likely to provoke or encourage any threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression;
​

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

Why the IDF goontards do not like Nabi Saleh.

First violence by the IDF (Israeli Doofus Force)

 

[Hollie]

Why the IDF goontards do not like Nabi Saleh.

First violence by the IDF (Israeli Doofus Force)

Another staged provocation by the Tamimi tribe.

 

[P F Tinmore]

"There are no Palestinians."

Some People did not get Israel's BS memo.