Palestine Today

[P F Tinmore]

She's sensible P F Tinmore, pay attention she never talks or accuses only one side.
Criticizes both and opens a door for conversation.

Indeed, interesting woman.

Vera George Ghattas Baboun (Arabic: فيرا جورج غطاس بابون‎, born October 6, 1964) is a Palestinian politician and the first female mayor of Bethlehem.[1][2] Baboun has a master's degree in African-American literature.[3] Prior to her election, she became the principle of the Roman Catholic High School in Beit Sahour[3] (2010-2012) and was an English literature lecturer at Bethlehem University,[4][5] (1990-2010) where she was also the Assistant Dean of Students (2000-2006).[5] Additionally, she is the chairperson of the Board of Directors for Guidance and Training Centre for Family and Children[3][5] as well as a gender studies researcher in GRACE (Gender Research in Africa and the Middle East into ICTs for Empowerment) network looking at the role of information technology in empowering women in the Arab world.[3][4][5] Baboun is the mother of five children.[2] She is a Palestinian Christian.[1][6]

Vera Baboun - Wikipedia

 

[rylah]

Sounds to me like she's talking about more sovereignty and resource to the people on the ground,
rather than to PLO or Hamas.

Wonder if there're more voices like that. Very smart position

 

[P F Tinmore]

People and Politics | A Woman in the Palestinian Cabinet

 

[rylah]

People and Politics | A Woman in the Palestinian Cabinet

I know why her father insisted on Deutsch education, You won;t like to discuss that.
Next.

What do You think about Vera Baboun's urban development vision?

 

[rylah]

Or find someone who's not a daughter of a SS soldier...

 

[P F Tinmore]

Recipe for Life: Laila El-Haddad

Educated at both Harvard and Duke Universities, Palestinian-American Laila El-Haddad is a journalist, blogger, author, Muslim activist and mother. She co- authored "The Gaza Kitchen", a cookbook with recipes and stories from across the Gaza Strip.

 

[USAF 2023]

The only path to peace is through justice.

Yes, but what does justice look like? Is the only definition of "justice" to put people and their descendants back where they were at a specific point in time? Is this the only way to "restore" them? As I see it, there are all sorts of problems with this sort of small-view "justice".

Can there be other ideas of what justice looks like?

I don't see any options on the table.

Everyone who lives in the real world knows that will never happen. The Israelis will never consent to being a minority in their own Country. Keep dreaming.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[theliq]

The only path to peace is through justice.

Yes, but what does justice look like? Is the only definition of "justice" to put people and their descendants back where they were at a specific point in time? Is this the only way to "restore" them? As I see it, there are all sorts of problems with this sort of small-view "justice".

Can there be other ideas of what justice looks like?

I don't see any options on the table.

Everyone who lives in the real world knows that will never happen. The Israelis will never consent to being a minority in their own Country. Keep dreaming.

Real Jews Already ARE..........keep banging you head

 

[P F Tinmore]

Haidar Eid on the one / two states solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Colonial conflict

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[theliq]

Haidar Eid on the one / two states solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Colonial conflict

Ta...Tinnie,steve

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,​

This gentleman has absolutely no credibility with me. He is trying to convince people that:

• Israel is targeting Arab Palestinians because the Arab Palestinians represent the other culture in that region and territory.

• He is among the many that are trying to convince people that:

■ Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination.
■ That the Security Barrier is to separate Arab Palestinians from Arab Palestinians.
■ That the Arab Palestinians are the victims in the struggle → and that it is gracious of the Arab Palestinians to offer the Israelis a place in the One-State Solution.
■ That the turning point will be when the Israelis realize that it will be impossible to continue killing Palestinian Children. And that over 90% of the Jews support the continued massacring of Palestinians in Gaza.
■ That the Jews are going through the "nazification of their society.​

Haidar Eid on the one / two states solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Colonial conflict
Media Removed (See Post: 2250)

(COMMENT)

While it is true that in 1991 (≈ a quarter century ago) the propagandists were able to pass a non-binding resolution that declared Zionism to Apartheid, it was revoked when the International Criminal Court defined what Apartheid means.

• 11/10/1975 A/RES/3379 (XXX) Elimination of all forms of racial discrimination: Zionism as racism - GA resolution

• 12/16/1991 A/RES/46/86 Racism and racial discrimination/Revocation of resolution 3379 ("Zionism as racism") - GA resolution​

People like Professor Eid Haidar want to re-examine and redefine the nature of Apartheid so as to make it fit in the realities of the West Bank, Gaza Strip and Jerusalem. Like so many others, he wants to re-define and expanded the meaning (See: Rethinking Our Definition of Apartheid: Not Just a Political Regime, by Haidar Eid, Andy Clarno on August 27, 2017) because he knows full well that the Rule of Law, in this case, says that:

■ The definition of a crime shall be strictly construed and shall not be extended by
analog y. In case of ambiguity, the definition shall be interpreted in favour of the
person being investigated, prosecuted or convicted.​

The accusation of "Nazification" comes (mostly but not always) from two frameworks regionally: The segment of the those identified as "self-hating" and those external Palestinians that cannot distinguish between the Nazification of Europe (≈ 1933 → 1939) and the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and Jerusalem of today.

• No Burning of the Muslim Books of those by Arab Palestinians authors
  
• No Antiislamic legislation and propaganda against "Non-Jews"
• No Looting and Destruction of Arab Palestinian owned business
• No ownership ban on businesses by Arab Palestinians
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to wear an Arab Palestinians emblem on their closes;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to turn in their bicycles;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to use public transportation;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to ride in cars, even their own;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to do their shopping between 3:00 and 5:00 P.M.;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to use Arab-owned barbershops and beauty parlors;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to be out on the streets between 8:00 P.M. and 6:00 A.M.;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to attend theaters, movies or any other forms of entertainment;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to use swimming pools, tennis courts or any other athletic fields;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to visit non-Arabs in their homes;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to attend schools”

There are so many dissimilarities, one hardly knows where to begin. Certainly, Professor Haidar has a couple valid complaints to be made and discussed. But like so many anti-Semitic complaints, they are reduced in worth as something requiring a second look because of the disinformation that surrounds them.

The accusation of "nazificationis" is very much like the accusation of "apartheid." They invoke emotions and if not truly examined, they may tarnish the truth.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[theliq]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,​

This gentleman has absolutely no credibility with me. He is trying to convince people that:

• Israel is targeting Arab Palestinians because the Arab Palestinians represent the other culture in that region and territory.

• He is among the many that are trying to convince people that:

■ Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination.
■ That the Security Barrier is to separate Arab Palestinians from Arab Palestinians.
■ That the Arab Palestinians are the victims in the struggle → and that it is gracious of the Arab Palestinians to offer the Israelis a place in the One-State Solution.
■ That the turning point will be when the Israelis realize that it will be impossible to continue killing Palestinian Children. And that over 90% of the Jews support the continued massacring of Palestinians in Gaza.
■ That the Jews are going through the "nazification of their society.​

Haidar Eid on the one / two states solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Colonial conflict
Media Removed (See Post: 2250)

(COMMENT)

While it is true that in 1991 (≈ a quarter century ago) the propagandists were able to pass a non-binding resolution that declared Zionism to Apartheid, it was revoked when the International Criminal Court defined what Apartheid means.

• 11/10/1975 A/RES/3379 (XXX) Elimination of all forms of racial discrimination: Zionism as racism - GA resolution

• 12/16/1991 A/RES/46/86 Racism and racial discrimination/Revocation of resolution 3379 ("Zionism as racism") - GA resolution​

People like Professor Eid Haidar want to re-examine and redefine the nature of Apartheid so as to make it fit in the realities of the West Bank, Gaza Strip and Jerusalem. Like so many others, he wants to re-define and expanded the meaning (See: Rethinking Our Definition of Apartheid: Not Just a Political Regime, by Haidar Eid, Andy Clarno on August 27, 2017) because he knows full well that the Rule of Law, in this case, says that:

■ The definition of a crime shall be strictly construed and shall not be extended by
analog y. In case of ambiguity, the definition shall be interpreted in favour of the
person being investigated, prosecuted or convicted.​

The accusation of "Nazification" comes (mostly but not always) from two frameworks regionally: The segment of the those identified as "self-hating" and those external Palestinians that cannot distinguish between the Nazification of Europe (≈ 1933 → 1939) and the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and Jerusalem of today.

• No Burning of the Muslim Books of those by Arab Palestinians authors
  
• No Antiislamic legislation and propaganda against "Non-Jews"
• No Looting and Destruction of Arab Palestinian owned business
• No ownership ban on businesses by Arab Palestinians
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to wear an Arab Palestinians emblem on their closes;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to turn in their bicycles;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to use public transportation;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to ride in cars, even their own;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to do their shopping between 3:00 and 5:00 P.M.;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to use Arab-owned barbershops and beauty parlors;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to be out on the streets between 8:00 P.M. and 6:00 A.M.;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to attend theaters, movies or any other forms of entertainment;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to use swimming pools, tennis courts or any other athletic fields;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to visit non-Arabs in their homes;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to attend schools”

There are so many dissimilarities, one hardly knows where to begin. Certainly, Professor Haidar has a couple valid complaints to be made and discussed. But like so many anti-Semitic complaints, they are reduced in worth as something requiring a second look because of the disinformation that surrounds them.

The accusation of "nazificationis" is very much like the accusation of "apartheid." They invoke emotions and if not truly examined, they may tarnish the truth.

Most Respectfully,
R

O Come off it Rocco,let us not play games here....The Systematic,and continued Land Grab and Slaughtering of the Palestinains since 1948 has been the Concerted Desire of the Zionist Animals....so stop fcuking around with your Bullshit....The Final Chapter before a Peace Settlement will be the Zionists wish to Defeat the Palestinians in a WAR(You have never seriously wanted a 2 State Solution or a Palestine EVER)....I am always right,you my friend Speak With Fork Tongue...steve What I detest so much is that You Zionist Gypo's are not Jewish BUT you are a pack of Compulsive Liars,why don't you stop pretending that you are the victims,when you are Wolves in Sheeps Clothing and a Disgrace to Humanity

You talk of Credibitiy,You lot have None......therefore you are Ghastly Hypocrites,you also Murder Real Jews...That is the Material Fact of the Matter...FULL STOP.

 

[Hollie]

Palestinian Authority And Fatah Glorify Terrorist Dalal Al-Mughrabi And The Contribution Of Other Female Martyrs And Prisoners To The Palestinian Cause

Palestinian Authority And Fatah Glorify Terrorist Dalal Al-Mughrabi And The Contribution Of Other Female Martyrs And Prisoners To The Palestinian Cause

March 11, 2018 was the 40th anniversary of the 1978 Coastal Road bus hijacking, in which 35 Israelis were killed, including 13 children. Like every year, the Palestinian Authority (PA) held an event in honor of Dalal Al-Mughrabi, the deputy-commander of the unit that perpetrated the hijacking, at which PA and Fatah officials praised her courage and presented her as a paragon of Palestinian sacrifice.[1] Several days earlier, on the occasion of International Women's Day, PA and Fatah officials praised the contribution of Palestinian women in general to the struggle against Israel and saluted Palestinian female martyrs and prisoners.

Fatah's official website and Facebook page also commemorated Al-Mughrabi. An article on the website featured a biography of her, with the following photo, captioned "Dalal Al-Mughrabi, the Legend that Will Never Die."[5]

I couldn’t help but notice the heavily photoshopped image: hair, makeup, rosy-red cheeks, lip gloss and a rather light-skinned appearance.

Such accoutrements are not exactly an islamically correct depiction of women in Islamic nations.

Was there a fatwa written to allow this?

 

[Hollie]

WATCH: Palestinian terrorists plant explosives at a security fence near Jerusalem and get handled by Israeli security forces.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,​

This gentleman has absolutely no credibility with me. He is trying to convince people that:

• Israel is targeting Arab Palestinians because the Arab Palestinians represent the other culture in that region and territory.

• He is among the many that are trying to convince people that:

■ Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination.
■ That the Security Barrier is to separate Arab Palestinians from Arab Palestinians.
■ That the Arab Palestinians are the victims in the struggle → and that it is gracious of the Arab Palestinians to offer the Israelis a place in the One-State Solution.
■ That the turning point will be when the Israelis realize that it will be impossible to continue killing Palestinian Children. And that over 90% of the Jews support the continued massacring of Palestinians in Gaza.
■ That the Jews are going through the "nazification of their society.​

Haidar Eid on the one / two states solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Colonial conflict
Media Removed (See Post: 2250)

(COMMENT)

While it is true that in 1991 (≈ a quarter century ago) the propagandists were able to pass a non-binding resolution that declared Zionism to Apartheid, it was revoked when the International Criminal Court defined what Apartheid means.

• 11/10/1975 A/RES/3379 (XXX) Elimination of all forms of racial discrimination: Zionism as racism - GA resolution

• 12/16/1991 A/RES/46/86 Racism and racial discrimination/Revocation of resolution 3379 ("Zionism as racism") - GA resolution​

People like Professor Eid Haidar want to re-examine and redefine the nature of Apartheid so as to make it fit in the realities of the West Bank, Gaza Strip and Jerusalem. Like so many others, he wants to re-define and expanded the meaning (See: Rethinking Our Definition of Apartheid: Not Just a Political Regime, by Haidar Eid, Andy Clarno on August 27, 2017) because he knows full well that the Rule of Law, in this case, says that:

■ The definition of a crime shall be strictly construed and shall not be extended by
analog y. In case of ambiguity, the definition shall be interpreted in favour of the
person being investigated, prosecuted or convicted.​

The accusation of "Nazification" comes (mostly but not always) from two frameworks regionally: The segment of the those identified as "self-hating" and those external Palestinians that cannot distinguish between the Nazification of Europe (≈ 1933 → 1939) and the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and Jerusalem of today.

• No Burning of the Muslim Books of those by Arab Palestinians authors
  
• No Antiislamic legislation and propaganda against "Non-Jews"
• No Looting and Destruction of Arab Palestinian owned business
• No ownership ban on businesses by Arab Palestinians
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to wear an Arab Palestinians emblem on their closes;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to turn in their bicycles;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to use public transportation;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to ride in cars, even their own;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to do their shopping between 3:00 and 5:00 P.M.;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to use Arab-owned barbershops and beauty parlors;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to be out on the streets between 8:00 P.M. and 6:00 A.M.;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to attend theaters, movies or any other forms of entertainment;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to use swimming pools, tennis courts or any other athletic fields;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to visit non-Arabs in their homes;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to attend schools”

There are so many dissimilarities, one hardly knows where to begin. Certainly, Professor Haidar has a couple valid complaints to be made and discussed. But like so many anti-Semitic complaints, they are reduced in worth as something requiring a second look because of the disinformation that surrounds them.

The accusation of "nazificationis" is very much like the accusation of "apartheid." They invoke emotions and if not truly examined, they may tarnish the truth.

Most Respectfully,
R

He has a better handle on the situation than you do. You need to read up. And get off that Israeli propaganda crap.

BTW, he did not bring up the Nazis. That was an Israeli journalist.

 

[USAF 2023]

The only path to peace is through justice.

Yes, but what does justice look like? Is the only definition of "justice" to put people and their descendants back where they were at a specific point in time? Is this the only way to "restore" them? As I see it, there are all sorts of problems with this sort of small-view "justice".

Can there be other ideas of what justice looks like?

I don't see any options on the table.

Everyone who lives in the real world knows that will never happen. The Israelis will never consent to being a minority in their own Country. Keep dreaming.

Real Jews Already ARE..........keep banging you head

Real Jews are already a minority in the “ 67 Borders” we hear so much about? You wish. Just gave the perfect reason for NO “ Right of Return”. Keep posting!!

 

[Hollie]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,​

This gentleman has absolutely no credibility with me. He is trying to convince people that:

• Israel is targeting Arab Palestinians because the Arab Palestinians represent the other culture in that region and territory.

• He is among the many that are trying to convince people that:

■ Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination.
■ That the Security Barrier is to separate Arab Palestinians from Arab Palestinians.
■ That the Arab Palestinians are the victims in the struggle → and that it is gracious of the Arab Palestinians to offer the Israelis a place in the One-State Solution.
■ That the turning point will be when the Israelis realize that it will be impossible to continue killing Palestinian Children. And that over 90% of the Jews support the continued massacring of Palestinians in Gaza.
■ That the Jews are going through the "nazification of their society.​

Haidar Eid on the one / two states solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Colonial conflict
Media Removed (See Post: 2250)

(COMMENT)

While it is true that in 1991 (≈ a quarter century ago) the propagandists were able to pass a non-binding resolution that declared Zionism to Apartheid, it was revoked when the International Criminal Court defined what Apartheid means.

• 11/10/1975 A/RES/3379 (XXX) Elimination of all forms of racial discrimination: Zionism as racism - GA resolution

• 12/16/1991 A/RES/46/86 Racism and racial discrimination/Revocation of resolution 3379 ("Zionism as racism") - GA resolution​

People like Professor Eid Haidar want to re-examine and redefine the nature of Apartheid so as to make it fit in the realities of the West Bank, Gaza Strip and Jerusalem. Like so many others, he wants to re-define and expanded the meaning (See: Rethinking Our Definition of Apartheid: Not Just a Political Regime, by Haidar Eid, Andy Clarno on August 27, 2017) because he knows full well that the Rule of Law, in this case, says that:

■ The definition of a crime shall be strictly construed and shall not be extended by
analog y. In case of ambiguity, the definition shall be interpreted in favour of the
person being investigated, prosecuted or convicted.​

The accusation of "Nazification" comes (mostly but not always) from two frameworks regionally: The segment of the those identified as "self-hating" and those external Palestinians that cannot distinguish between the Nazification of Europe (≈ 1933 → 1939) and the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and Jerusalem of today.

• No Burning of the Muslim Books of those by Arab Palestinians authors
  
• No Antiislamic legislation and propaganda against "Non-Jews"
• No Looting and Destruction of Arab Palestinian owned business
• No ownership ban on businesses by Arab Palestinians
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to wear an Arab Palestinians emblem on their closes;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to turn in their bicycles;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to use public transportation;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to ride in cars, even their own;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to do their shopping between 3:00 and 5:00 P.M.;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to use Arab-owned barbershops and beauty parlors;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to be out on the streets between 8:00 P.M. and 6:00 A.M.;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to attend theaters, movies or any other forms of entertainment;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to use swimming pools, tennis courts or any other athletic fields;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to visit non-Arabs in their homes;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to attend schools”

There are so many dissimilarities, one hardly knows where to begin. Certainly, Professor Haidar has a couple valid complaints to be made and discussed. But like so many anti-Semitic complaints, they are reduced in worth as something requiring a second look because of the disinformation that surrounds them.

The accusation of "nazificationis" is very much like the accusation of "apartheid." They invoke emotions and if not truly examined, they may tarnish the truth.

Most Respectfully,
R

He has a better handle on the situation than you do. You need to read up. And get off that Israeli propaganda crap.

BTW, he did not bring up the Nazis. That was an Israeli journalist.

You seem a bit fuzzy on the details.

It’s a shame that you’re reduced to parroting silly slogans when you don’t understand terms and definitions.

 

[USAF 2023]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,​

This gentleman has absolutely no credibility with me. He is trying to convince people that:

• Israel is targeting Arab Palestinians because the Arab Palestinians represent the other culture in that region and territory.

• He is among the many that are trying to convince people that:

■ Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination.
■ That the Security Barrier is to separate Arab Palestinians from Arab Palestinians.
■ That the Arab Palestinians are the victims in the struggle → and that it is gracious of the Arab Palestinians to offer the Israelis a place in the One-State Solution.
■ That the turning point will be when the Israelis realize that it will be impossible to continue killing Palestinian Children. And that over 90% of the Jews support the continued massacring of Palestinians in Gaza.
■ That the Jews are going through the "nazification of their society.​

Haidar Eid on the one / two states solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Colonial conflict
Media Removed (See Post: 2250)

(COMMENT)

While it is true that in 1991 (≈ a quarter century ago) the propagandists were able to pass a non-binding resolution that declared Zionism to Apartheid, it was revoked when the International Criminal Court defined what Apartheid means.

• 11/10/1975 A/RES/3379 (XXX) Elimination of all forms of racial discrimination: Zionism as racism - GA resolution

• 12/16/1991 A/RES/46/86 Racism and racial discrimination/Revocation of resolution 3379 ("Zionism as racism") - GA resolution​

People like Professor Eid Haidar want to re-examine and redefine the nature of Apartheid so as to make it fit in the realities of the West Bank, Gaza Strip and Jerusalem. Like so many others, he wants to re-define and expanded the meaning (See: Rethinking Our Definition of Apartheid: Not Just a Political Regime, by Haidar Eid, Andy Clarno on August 27, 2017) because he knows full well that the Rule of Law, in this case, says that:

■ The definition of a crime shall be strictly construed and shall not be extended by
analog y. In case of ambiguity, the definition shall be interpreted in favour of the
person being investigated, prosecuted or convicted.​

The accusation of "Nazification" comes (mostly but not always) from two frameworks regionally: The segment of the those identified as "self-hating" and those external Palestinians that cannot distinguish between the Nazification of Europe (≈ 1933 → 1939) and the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and Jerusalem of today.

• No Burning of the Muslim Books of those by Arab Palestinians authors
  
• No Antiislamic legislation and propaganda against "Non-Jews"
• No Looting and Destruction of Arab Palestinian owned business
• No ownership ban on businesses by Arab Palestinians
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to wear an Arab Palestinians emblem on their closes;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to turn in their bicycles;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to use public transportation;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to ride in cars, even their own;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to do their shopping between 3:00 and 5:00 P.M.;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to use Arab-owned barbershops and beauty parlors;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to be out on the streets between 8:00 P.M. and 6:00 A.M.;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to attend theaters, movies or any other forms of entertainment;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to use swimming pools, tennis courts or any other athletic fields;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to visit non-Arabs in their homes;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to attend schools”

There are so many dissimilarities, one hardly knows where to begin. Certainly, Professor Haidar has a couple valid complaints to be made and discussed. But like so many anti-Semitic complaints, they are reduced in worth as something requiring a second look because of the disinformation that surrounds them.

The accusation of "nazificationis" is very much like the accusation of "apartheid." They invoke emotions and if not truly examined, they may tarnish the truth.

Most Respectfully,
R

O Come off it Rocco,let us not play games here....The Systematic,and continued Land Grab and Slaughtering of the Palestinains since 1948 has been the Concerted Desire of the Zionist Animals....so stop fcuking around with your Bullshit....The Final Chapter before a Peace Settlement will be the Zionists wish to Defeat the Palestinians in a WAR(You have never seriously wanted a 2 State Solution or a Palestine EVER)....I am always right,you my friend Speak With Fork Tongue...steve What I detest so much is that You Zionist Gypo's are not Jewish BUT you are a pack of Compulsive Liars,why don't you stop pretending that you are the victims,when you are Wolves in Sheeps Clothing and a Disgrace to Humanity

You talk of Credibitiy,You lot have None......therefore you are Ghastly Hypocrites,you also Murder Real Jews...That is the Material Fact of the Matter...FULL STOP.

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,​

This gentleman has absolutely no credibility with me. He is trying to convince people that:

• Israel is targeting Arab Palestinians because the Arab Palestinians represent the other culture in that region and territory.

• He is among the many that are trying to convince people that:

■ Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination.
■ That the Security Barrier is to separate Arab Palestinians from Arab Palestinians.
■ That the Arab Palestinians are the victims in the struggle → and that it is gracious of the Arab Palestinians to offer the Israelis a place in the One-State Solution.
■ That the turning point will be when the Israelis realize that it will be impossible to continue killing Palestinian Children. And that over 90% of the Jews support the continued massacring of Palestinians in Gaza.
■ That the Jews are going through the "nazification of their society.​

Haidar Eid on the one / two states solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Colonial conflict
Media Removed (See Post: 2250)

(COMMENT)

While it is true that in 1991 (≈ a quarter century ago) the propagandists were able to pass a non-binding resolution that declared Zionism to Apartheid, it was revoked when the International Criminal Court defined what Apartheid means.

• 11/10/1975 A/RES/3379 (XXX) Elimination of all forms of racial discrimination: Zionism as racism - GA resolution

• 12/16/1991 A/RES/46/86 Racism and racial discrimination/Revocation of resolution 3379 ("Zionism as racism") - GA resolution​

People like Professor Eid Haidar want to re-examine and redefine the nature of Apartheid so as to make it fit in the realities of the West Bank, Gaza Strip and Jerusalem. Like so many others, he wants to re-define and expanded the meaning (See: Rethinking Our Definition of Apartheid: Not Just a Political Regime, by Haidar Eid, Andy Clarno on August 27, 2017) because he knows full well that the Rule of Law, in this case, says that:

■ The definition of a crime shall be strictly construed and shall not be extended by
analog y. In case of ambiguity, the definition shall be interpreted in favour of the
person being investigated, prosecuted or convicted.​

The accusation of "Nazification" comes (mostly but not always) from two frameworks regionally: The segment of the those identified as "self-hating" and those external Palestinians that cannot distinguish between the Nazification of Europe (≈ 1933 → 1939) and the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and Jerusalem of today.

• No Burning of the Muslim Books of those by Arab Palestinians authors
  
• No Antiislamic legislation and propaganda against "Non-Jews"
• No Looting and Destruction of Arab Palestinian owned business
• No ownership ban on businesses by Arab Palestinians
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to wear an Arab Palestinians emblem on their closes;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to turn in their bicycles;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to use public transportation;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to ride in cars, even their own;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to do their shopping between 3:00 and 5:00 P.M.;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not required to use Arab-owned barbershops and beauty parlors;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to be out on the streets between 8:00 P.M. and 6:00 A.M.;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to attend theaters, movies or any other forms of entertainment;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to use swimming pools, tennis courts or any other athletic fields;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to visit non-Arabs in their homes;
  
• Arab Palestinians are not forbidden to attend schools”

There are so many dissimilarities, one hardly knows where to begin. Certainly, Professor Haidar has a couple valid complaints to be made and discussed. But like so many anti-Semitic complaints, they are reduced in worth as something requiring a second look because of the disinformation that surrounds them.

The accusation of "nazificationis" is very much like the accusation of "apartheid." They invoke emotions and if not truly examined, they may tarnish the truth.

Most Respectfully,
R

He has a better handle on the situation than you do. You need to read up. And get off that Israeli propaganda crap.

BTW, he did not bring up the Nazis. That was an Israeli journalist.

You seem a bit fuzzy on the details.

It’s a shame that you’re reduced to parroting silly slogans when you don’t understand terms and definitions.

When I was listening to the clip I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. The “ International Community” stepped in to stop the oppression of Jews? When did that happen?
If it were not for Pearl Harbor and the U.S. didn’t step in every Jewish individual in Europe would have been killed! Please, don’t let us forget the Pogroms in Russia!
What I couldn’t figure out is; Is he advocating a “ One State Solution?”
If Zionism is. “ racist” then by definition a Palestinian State is also Racist which means the Israelis have no reason to leave E. Jerusalem and the W. Bank .