Pakistan: 24 Troops Dead In NATO Helicopter Attack...

[paulitician]

This is not going over too well over there. War with Pakistan in our future?


PESHAWAR, Pakistan (AP) — Pakistan on Saturday accused NATO helicopters and fighter jets of firing on two army checkpoints in the country's northwest and killing 24 soldiers. Islamabad retaliated by closing the border crossings used by the international coalition to supply its troops in neighboring Afghanistan.

The incident before dawn Saturday was a major blow to already strained relations between Islamabad and U.S.-led forces fighting in Afghanistan. It will add to perceptions in Pakistan that the American presence in the region is malevolent, and further fuel resentment toward the weak government in Islamabad for its cooperation with Washington.

It comes a little more than a year after a similar but less deadly strike near the Afghan border in which U.S. helicopters accidentally killed two Pakistani whom the pilots mistook for insurgents. Pakistan responded by closing the Torkham border crossing to NATO supplies for 10 days until the U.S. apologized.

On Saturday, Pakistan went further, closing both of the country's border crossings into landlocked Afghanistan. NATO trucks about 30 percent of the non-lethal supplies used by its Afghan-based forces through Pakistan.

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http://news.yahoo.com/pakistan-24-troops-dead-nato-helicopter-attack-140517725.html

 

[paulitician]

Why are we still over there? Bin Laden's dead no? Bring the kids home so they can receive the hero's welcome they deserve. We've won the Longest War. Time to come home.

 

[BOBO]

War games spotlight China-Pakistan hype

Asia Times Online :: South Asia news, business and economy from India and Pakistan

Ron Paul tried to tell the constituency about the world cop game. Now it's too late. China senses danger. Hang onto your jockstrap as this can only go one way.

This is not going over too well over there. War with Pakistan in our future?


PESHAWAR, Pakistan (AP) — Pakistan on Saturday accused NATO helicopters and fighter jets of firing on two army checkpoints in the country's northwest and killing 24 soldiers. Islamabad retaliated by closing the border crossings used by the international coalition to supply its troops in neighboring Afghanistan.

The incident before dawn Saturday was a major blow to already strained relations between Islamabad and U.S.-led forces fighting in Afghanistan. It will add to perceptions in Pakistan that the American presence in the region is malevolent, and further fuel resentment toward the weak government in Islamabad for its cooperation with Washington.

It comes a little more than a year after a similar but less deadly strike near the Afghan border in which U.S. helicopters accidentally killed two Pakistani whom the pilots mistook for insurgents. Pakistan responded by closing the Torkham border crossing to NATO supplies for 10 days until the U.S. apologized.

On Saturday, Pakistan went further, closing both of the country's border crossings into landlocked Afghanistan. NATO trucks about 30 percent of the non-lethal supplies used by its Afghan-based forces through Pakistan.

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Pakistan: 24 troops dead in NATO helicopter attack - Yahoo! News

 

[Warrior102]

Wonderful.
Where's Commander In Chief?
Lemme guess.
Golfing?

 

[paulitician]

Wonderful.
Where's Commander In Chief?
Lemme guess.
Golfing?

Actually,he is golfing. Just read about it.

 

[JStone]

Why are we still over there? Bin Laden's dead no? Bring the kids home so they can receive the hero's welcome they deserve. We've won the Longest War. Time to come home.

Dems are such warmongers.

 

[Lovebears65]

Pakistan just closed off areas for our troops to get supplies. NOT GOOD.

 

[R.C. Christian]

What isn't good about it? Maybe their commander in shit shouldn't piss off other countries by flying his drones over their borders, blowing up women, children, soldiers, and oh yeah, the occasional terrorist. a 400% increase in cowardly drone attacks by yellow striped air force punks in a nice secure hanger 10K miles away since Bush. Good show. Nothing like winning hearts and minds by blowing them to pieces.

 

[JStone]

What isn't good about it? Maybe their commander in shit shouldn't piss off other countries by flying his drones over their borders, blowing up women, children, soldiers, and oh yeah, the occasional terrorist. a 400% increase in cowardly drone attacks by yellow striped air force punks in a nice secure hanger 10K miles away since Bush. Good show. Nothing like winning hearts and minds by blowing them to pieces.

Arabs and muslimes are a peaceful people.

Iran Iraq War, 1 million dead
Lebanese Civil War, 250,000 dead
Algerian Civl War: 300,000 dead
Bangladesh Civil War: 500,000 dead
Black Sept., Jordan's King Hussein murders, expells 80,000 Palestinians
Syrian army kills 20,000 Syrians at Hama
Iraq gases hundreds of thousands of Kurds
300 US Marines killed in Beirut
1400 year conflict between Sunnis and Shiites
Fratricide between Hamas and Fatah
Syria/Hizballah assassinate Lebanese PM Rafik Hariri

Alexis de Toqueville...

I studied the Koran a great deal. I came away from that study with the conviction there have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammad. So far as I can see, it is the principal cause of the decadence so visible today in the Muslim world and, though less absurd than the polytheism of old, its social and political tendencies are in my opinion to be feared, and I therefore regard it as a form of decadence rather than a form of progress in relation to paganism itself.

 

[High_Gravity]

I don't know if we'll be at war with Pakistan but our relationship is definently strained right now, when we leave Afghanistan I just say we cut them off completely.

 

[Sallow]

What isn't good about it? Maybe their commander in shit shouldn't piss off other countries by flying his drones over their borders, blowing up women, children, soldiers, and oh yeah, the occasional terrorist. a 400% increase in cowardly drone attacks by yellow striped air force punks in a nice secure hanger 10K miles away since Bush. Good show. Nothing like winning hearts and minds by blowing them to pieces.

Arabs and muslimes are a peaceful people.

Iran Iraq War, 1 million dead
Lebanese Civil War, 250,000 dead
Algerian Civl War: 300,000 dead
Bangladesh Civil War: 500,000 dead
Black Sept., Jordan's King Hussein murders, expells 80,000 Palestinians
Syrian army kills 20,000 Syrians at Hama
Iraq gases hundreds of thousands of Kurds
300 US Marines killed in Beirut
1400 year conflict between Sunnis and Shiites
Fratricide between Hamas and Fatah
Syria/Hizballah assassinate Lebanese PM Rafik Hariri

Alexis de Toqueville...

I studied the Koran a great deal. I came away from that study with the conviction there have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammad. So far as I can see, it is the principal cause of the decadence so visible today in the Muslim world and, though less absurd than the polytheism of old, its social and political tendencies are in my opinion to be feared, and I therefore regard it as a form of decadence rather than a form of progress in relation to paganism itself.

In comparison to whom?

 

[Sallow]

Why are we still over there? Bin Laden's dead no? Bring the kids home so they can receive the hero's welcome they deserve. We've won the Longest War. Time to come home.

At this point there is nothing fruitful about continuing this. These sorts of events will continue to happen if we keep up the aggression.

 

[JStone]

Why are we still over there? Bin Laden's dead no? Bring the kids home so they can receive the hero's welcome they deserve. We've won the Longest War. Time to come home.

At this point there is nothing fruitful about continuing this. These sorts of events will continue to happen if we keep up the aggression.

Islime is the religion of peace, right?

Burak Bekdil, Hurriyet, Turkey: Golda Meir Was Right Why Golda Meir was right - Hurriyet Daily News

It has been more than two and a half years since Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan told to Israeli President Shimon Peres’s face, “You (Jews) know well how to kill.” Prime Minister Erdoğan has also declared more than a few times that the main obstacle to peace in this part of the world is Israel, once calling the Jewish state “a festering boil in the Middle East that spreads hate and enmity.” In this holy month of Ramadan full of blood on Muslim territories, let’s try to identify who are the ones who know well how to kill.

As the Syrian death count clicks every day to come close to 2,000, the Turkish-Kurdish death count does not stop, already over 40,000 since 1984, both adding to the big pool of blood called the Middle East. Only during this Ramadan, the Kurdistan Workers’ Party, or PKK’s, death toll has reached 50 in this Muslim Kurds vs. Muslim Turks war. This excludes the PKK casualties in Turkey and in northern Iraq due to Turkish military retaliation since they are seldom accurately reported.

Sudan is not in the conventional Middle East, so let’s ignore the genocide there. Let’s ignore, also, the West Pakistani massacres in East Pakistan (Bangladesh) totaling 1.25 million in 1971. Or 200,000 deaths in Algeria in war between Islamists and the government in 1991-2006.

But a simple, strictly Middle East research will give you one million deaths in the all-Muslim Iran-Iraq war; 300,000 Muslim minorities killed by Saddam Hussein; 80,000 Iranians killed during the Islamic revolution; 25,000 deaths in 1970-71, the days of Black September, by the Jordanian government in its fight against the Palestinians; and 20,000 Islamists killed in 1982 by the elder al-Assad in Hama. The World Health Organization’s estimate of Osama bin Laden’s carnage in Iraq was already 150,000 a few years earlier.

In a 2007 research, Gunnar Heinsohn from the University of Bremen and Daniel Pipes, director of the Middle East Forum, found out that some 11 million Muslims have been violently killed since 1948, of which 35,000, (0.3 percent) died during the six years of Arab war against Israel, or one out of every 315 fatalities. In contrast, over 90 percent who perished were killed by fellow Muslims.

According to Mssrs. Heinsohn and Pipes, the grisly inventory finds the total number of deaths in conflicts all over the world since 1950 numbering around 85 million. Of that, the Muslim Arab deaths in the Arab-Israeli conflict were at 46,000 including 11,000 during Israel’s war of independence. That makes 0.05 percent of all deaths in all conflicts, or 0.4 percent of all Arab deaths in the Arab-Israeli conflict.

In another calculation ignoring “small” massacres like the one that goes on in Syria and other deaths during the Arab Spring, only Saddam’s Iraq, Jordan, the elder al-Assad’s Syria, Iran-Iraq war, the bin Laden campaign in Iraq, the Iranian Islamic revolution and the Turkish-Kurdish conflict caused 1.65 million Muslim deaths by Muslims compared to less than 50,000 deaths in the Arab-Israeli conflict since 1950, including fatalities during and after Operation Cast Lead which came after the Heinsohn-Pipes study. For those who don’t have a calculator ready at their desks, allow me to tell: 50,000 is three percent of 1.65 million.

Golda Meir, the fourth prime minister of Israel, or rather the “Mother of Israel,” had a perfectly realistic point when she said that peace in the Middle East would only be possible “when Arabs love their children more than they hate us.”

 

[geauxtohell]

What isn't good about it? Maybe their commander in shit shouldn't piss off other countries by flying his drones over their borders, blowing up women, children, soldiers, and oh yeah, the occasional terrorist. a 400% increase in cowardly drone attacks by yellow striped air force punks in a nice secure hanger 10K miles away since Bush. Good show. Nothing like winning hearts and minds by blowing them to pieces.

Who wants a fair fight?

Only suckers and people who have never been in a fight. It reminds me of a joke they use at Ranger School: "Q: Who wins in hand to hand combat? A: The guy whose buddy shows up and shoots the other dude in the head."

An "ambush" isn't exactly a noble act, but it's the staple of an Infantry platoon's tactics.

Better to ambush then to be ambushed.

I tell you what, go over there and tell those Taliban people to get in uniform and start acting like a conventional force, by God!

The drone attacks have been successful. I didn't think they would, but they would. Innocents killed and maimed in war are always unfortunate and inevitable.

 

[JStone]

Quote: Originally Posted by R.C. Christian
What isn't good about it? Maybe their commander in shit shouldn't piss off other countries by flying his drones over their borders

Muslimes are perpetually pissed off because they are the biggest losers in the history of the world who have accomplished nothing in their miserable culture.. It's in their savage DNA dating back 1400 years to the pedophile mahomet.

Quran 60:4: We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"