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[g5000]

Defiant teen gets life sentences in Ohio shooting - WTOP.com

You really think society is better off with paying for this guy to live 70 years or more in prison than just having taken him out back and shot him?

monsters like this killer are the reason we need the death penalty

But some libby needs his feel good moment.

The Catholic Church opposes abortion in all cases, and it opposes stem cell research.

It also opposes the death penalty. Does this one thing make the Church liberal?

Many Christian faiths' dogmas include an opposition to the death penalty.

 

[Sallow]

Liberals think killing is barbaric... Unless that killing removes an inconvenience they hadn't planned on, then it's OK.

Conservatives think killing is just peachy... Unless it is a fetus. Then it's horrible. Of course, once it's born it's on its own.

Who do you think warrants the death penalty more; An unplanned unborn child, or a convicted murderer? Don't bother, we all know your answer.

The fetus.

 

[Borillar]

Don't assume you know how I may or may not feel.

That's why I said "might" feel differently. Maybe you'd be perfectly content to be put to death for a crime you didn't commit. I wouldn't.

Damn near everyone in prison is innocent. Just ask them.

No doubt. But some people in prison ARE innocent. As long as they are alive, there is a chance that they could be exonerated. Once they are executed, that chance is gone.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Would you like a list of all the people on death row who have been found innocent of their crime? If it was as rare as you seem to think there wouldn't be an entire organization dedicated to helping the innocent not die for a crime they didnt commit.

Sure.

I'll keep it to the last 13 years



2000-2009

2000

83. Steve Manning.
84. Eric Clemmons.
85. Joseph Nahume Green.
86. Earl Washington Virginia (pardoned). Convicted 1994 (1984, without life sentence).
87. William Nieves.
88. Frank Lee Smith (died prior to exoneration).
89. Michael Graham.
90. Albert Burrell.
91. Oscar Lee Morris.
2001

92. Peter Limone.
93. Gary Drinkard.
94. Joachin José Martínez.
95. Jeremy Sheets.
96. Charles Fain.
2002

97. Juan Roberto Melendez-Colon Florida. Convicted 1984.
98. Ray Krone Arizona (State v. Krone, 897 P.2d 621 (Ariz. 1995) (en banc)). Convicted 1992.
99. Thomas Kimbell, Jr.
100. Larry Osborne.
2003

101. Aaron Patterson.
102. Madison Hobley.
103. Leroy Orange.
104. Stanley Howard.
105. Rudolph Holton.
106. Lemuel Prion.
107. Wesley Quick.
108. John Thompson.
109. Timothy Howard Ohio. Convicted 1976.
110. Gary Lamar James Ohio. Convicted 1976.
111. Joseph Amrine.
112. Nicholas Yarris Pennsylvania (Pennsylvania v. Yarris, No 690-OF1982, Court of Common Pleas, Delaware County, September 3, 2003. Order vacating conviction). Convicted 1982.
2004

113. Alan Gell.
114. Gordon Steidl.
115. Laurence Adams.
116. Dan L. Bright.
117. Ryan Matthews.
118. Ernest Ray Willis.
2005

119. Derrick Jamison.
120. Harold Wilson.
2006

121. John Ballard.
2007

122. Curtis McCarty.
123. Michael McCormick.
124. Jonathon Hoffman.
2008

125. Kennedy Brewer Mississippi. Convicted 1995.
126. Glen Edward Chapman North Carolina. Convicted 1995.
127. Levon "Bo" Jones[5]North Carolina. Convicted 1993.
128. Michael Blair Texas.
2009

129. Nathson Fields Illinois. Convicted 1986.
130. Paul House Tennessee. Convicted 1986.
131. Daniel Wade Moore Alabama. Convicted 2002.
132. Ronald Kitchen Illinois. Convicted 1988.
133. Herman Lindsey Florida. Convicted 2006.
134. Michael Toney Texas. Convicted 1999. (Toney later died in a car accident on October 3, 2009, just one month and a day after his exoneration.).[6]
135. Yancy Douglas Oklahoma. Convicted 1997.
136. Paris Powell Oklahoma. Convicted 1997.
137. Robert Springsteen Texas. Convicted 2001.
2010-2012

2010

138. Joe D'Ambrosio Ohio. Convicted 1989. (While he was freed in 2010, but not yet exonerated, the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear an appeal by the state of Ohio challenging the unconditional writ of habeas corpus and bar to D'Ambrosio's re-prosecution on January 23, 2012, nearly 2 years later, making D'Ambrosio the 140th death row exoneree since 1973. [5])
139. Anthony Graves Texas. Convicted 1994.
2011

140. Gussie Vann Tennessee. Convicted 1994.
2012

141. Damon Thibodeaux Louisiana. Convicted 1997.
142. Seth Penalver Florida. Convicted 1994.
List of exonerated death row inmates - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The appeals process works.

 

[Sallow]

Defiant teen gets life sentences in Ohio shooting - WTOP.com

You really think society is better off with paying for this guy to live 70 years or more in prison than just having taken him out back and shot him?

monsters like this killer are the reason we need the death penalty

But some libby needs his feel good moment.

The Catholic Church opposes abortion in all cases, and it opposes stem cell research.

It also opposes the death penalty. Does this one thing make the Church liberal?

Many, many Christian faiths' dogmas includes an opposition to the death penalty.

It also opposes war.

You never ever hear conservatives going on about religion when it comes to war and the death penalty.

 

[g5000]

Defiant teen gets life sentences in Ohio shooting - WTOP.com

You really think society is better off with paying for this guy to live 70 years or more in prison than just having taken him out back and shot him?

monsters like this killer are the reason we need the death penalty

But some libby needs his feel good moment.

The Catholic Church opposes abortion in all cases, and it opposes stem cell research.

It also opposes the death penalty. Does this one thing make the Church liberal?

Many, many Christian faiths' dogmas includes an opposition to the death penalty.

It also opposes war.

You never ever hear conservatives going on about religion when it comes to war and the death penalty.

Which is why one must avoid tagging someone as "liberal" or "conservative" based on only one or two positions they hold.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

That's why I said "might" feel differently. Maybe you'd be perfectly content to be put to death for a crime you didn't commit. I wouldn't.

Damn near everyone in prison is innocent. Just ask them.

No doubt. But some people in prison ARE innocent. As long as they are alive, there is a chance that they could be exonerated. Once they are executed, that chance is gone.

In this day an age the odds of an innocent person being put to death is very slim.


But even so they can still be exonerated posthumously.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

The instant that this kid dies, his suffering is ended. If he lives 70 years in maximum security, he will face years of being raped, living in a cage, with nothing to look forward to but the day that he does die. Every day will be hell, with danger from violent cons all the time. He could only hope that someone will finish him off, like they did Dalmer.

Whew!!!!

It's enough to make you wonder WHY someone would choose to be mentally-ill!!!!

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Defiant teen gets life sentences in Ohio shooting - WTOP.com

You really think society is better off with paying for this guy to live 70 years or more in prison than just having taken him out back and shot him?

monsters like this killer are the reason we need the death penalty

But some libby needs his feel good moment.

Actually, as a fiscal conservative and a pragmatist, I oppose the death penalty. Your post indicates a severe deficiency in the facts of the issue.

It actually costs more to put someone to death than to house them for 40 years.

That seems to be another problem mindless politicians and lawyers have created that can easily be fixed with a scaffold and a noose............

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Defiant teen gets life sentences in Ohio shooting - WTOP.com

You really think society is better off with paying for this guy to live 70 years or more in prison than just having taken him out back and shot him?

monsters like this killer are the reason we need the death penalty

But some libby needs his feel good moment.

The Catholic Church opposes abortion in all cases, and it opposes stem cell research.

It also opposes the death penalty. Does this one thing make the Church liberal?

Many, many Christian faiths' dogmas includes an opposition to the death penalty.

It also opposes war.

You never ever hear conservatives going on about religion when it comes to war and the death penalty.

The Catholic Church and Its Stance on War for Dummies

 

[Borillar]

Liberals think killing is barbaric... Unless that killing removes an inconvenience they hadn't planned on, then it's OK.

Conservatives think killing is just peachy... Unless it is a fetus. Then it's horrible. Of course, once it's born it's on its own.

Who do you think warrants the death penalty more; An unplanned unborn child, or a convicted murderer? Don't bother, we all know your answer.

IMHO, a fetus is not a person and therefore has no rights. Once born, it is a person and is imbued with all human rights. The death penalty is a legal term, a judgement handed down from Judge and Jury. Abortion is a medical procedure to remove a fetus, not a punishment. Apples and Oranges.

 

[Sallow]

Damn near everyone in prison is innocent. Just ask them.

No doubt. But some people in prison ARE innocent. As long as they are alive, there is a chance that they could be exonerated. Once they are executed, that chance is gone.

In this day an age the odds of an innocent person being put to death is very slim.


But even so they can still be exonerated posthumously.

 

[rightwinger]

No doubt. But some people in prison ARE innocent. As long as they are alive, there is a chance that they could be exonerated. Once they are executed, that chance is gone.

In this day an age the odds of an innocent person being put to death is very slim.


But even so they can still be exonerated posthumously.

Kill em all and let God sort em out

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Always fun when small government types advocate for giving the government the power to excute its citizens.

Public approval of the death penalty is currently about 70%.

That sounds, too-much, like a....

....LIMBAUGH-factoid.

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[Borillar]

No doubt. But some people in prison ARE innocent. As long as they are alive, there is a chance that they could be exonerated. Once they are executed, that chance is gone.

In this day an age the odds of an innocent person being put to death is very slim.


But even so they can still be exonerated posthumously.

I'm sure that will be a comfort to their surviving family.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

To execute or not: A question of cost?
States discover it's cheaper to imprison killers for life than to execute them

Dont see how thats possible when it cost 600 bucks a day to hold an illegal alien.
So figure about 11 million bucks for 50 years of incarceration.
I would think they could kill a guy a little cheaper then that. Even with court cost.

 

[Uncensored2008]

That might be how you'd feel but it doesn't apply to everyone, and especially not those wrongly convicted of which there are far too many.

Most, 90% +, of those wrongly convicted, are convicted of drug crimes. Very few capital cases result in a wrongful conviction.

Further, you oppose death, yet wrongly imprisoning someone for 70 years is easily as much a travesty as putting them to death.

Your logic is flawed.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

You act as if innocent people are being executed on a daily basis.

If fellow citizens are committing murderous acts then yes they should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. You don't like the law? Seek to change it and stop whining about it.

Would you like a list of all the people on death row who have been found innocent of their crime? If it was as rare as you seem to think there wouldn't be an entire organization dedicated to helping the innocent not die for a crime they didnt commit.

And while you're at it. How about a list of those that have been executed and later to be found innocent.

You GOT IT!!!!​

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Save Tookie ! Save Mumia !!

 

[Borillar]

To execute or not: A question of cost?
States discover it's cheaper to imprison killers for life than to execute them

Dont see how thats possible when it cost 600 bucks a day to hold an illegal alien.
So figure about 11 million bucks for 50 years of incarceration.
I would think they could kill a guy a little cheaper then that. Even with court cost.

Sure, just remove justice from the equation. Then you could just drag a suspect off and hang him. Rope is re-useable. Of course, you would be killing lots of innocent people, but WTH, you'd save a buck or 2. That's what is important. Hell, just get rid of the justice system altogether. Let the vigilantes sort it out.