Ownership Lead Nation in Gun Deaths, New Data for 2020 Confirms

[Penelope]

Ownership Lead Nation in Gun Deaths, New Data for 2020 Confirms​

Mississippi, Wyoming, Louisiana, Alaska, Missouri, and Alabama Have Highest Gun Death Rates in the Nation; Hawaii, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and New York Have Lowest Gun Death Rates in the Nation
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In addition, states with the lowest overall gun death rates have some of the strongest gun violence prevention laws in the nation and lower rates of gun ownership.

https://vpc.org/states-with-weak-gun-laws-and-higher-gun-ownership-lead-nation-in-gun-deaths-new-data-for-2020-confirms/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIo4C_tfPU-AIVLMLCBB2u-g-KEAAYAiAAEgL7w_D_BwE

States with higher rate of gun ownership do not correlate with more gun murders​

https://www.foxnews.com/us/states-higher-rate-gun-ownership-not-correlate-more-gun-murders-data-

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Just the opposite of what fox news says. Hawaii, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and New York are all blue states.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Counting suicides is about as disingenuous as one can get.

 

[protectionist]

Ownership Lead Nation in Gun Deaths, New Data for 2020 Confirms​

Mississippi, Wyoming, Louisiana, Alaska, Missouri, and Alabama Have Highest Gun Death Rates in the Nation; Hawaii, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and New York Have Lowest Gun Death Rates in the Nation
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In addition, states with the lowest overall gun death rates have some of the strongest gun violence prevention laws in the nation and lower rates of gun ownership.

https://vpc.org/states-with-weak-gun-laws-and-higher-gun-ownership-lead-nation-in-gun-deaths-new-data-for-2020-confirms/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIo4C_tfPU-AIVLMLCBB2u-g-KEAAYAiAAEgL7w_D_BwE

States with higher rate of gun ownership do not correlate with more gun murders​

https://www.foxnews.com/us/states-higher-rate-gun-ownership-not-correlate-more-gun-murders-data-

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Just the opposite of what fox news says. Hawaii, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and New York are all blue states.

The VPC is a BIASED lobby group for the anti-gun crowd in America. They maintain a The VPC maintains a "Concealed Carry Killers" database of fatal non-self defense killings involving private citizens who are legally allowed to carry concealed handguns in public database of fatal non-self defense killings, involving private citizens who are legally allowed to carry concealed handguns in public. Well, how come they don't maintain a database of CCW permit holders who have SAVED the lives of thousands of people.

Secondly, their claims about "Concealed Carry Killers" are a pile of crap. The database was criticized by Clayton Cramer, who claimed that the statistics were inaccurate.[12] John Lott's Crime Prevention Research Center website posted an article questioning the numbers presented on the Concealed Carry Killers database. According to the article, suicides, which may or may not have involved a firearm, and motor vehicle homicides caused by intoxication, are included in the statistics.[13

Massive errors in the Violence Policy Center’s “Concealed Carry Killers”

The Violence Policy Center regularly puts out the claim that concealed handgun permit holders are a danger to themselves and others. Right now they claim that concealed handgun permits have been re…

crimeresearch.org

 

[protectionist]

Counting suicides is about as disingenuous as one can get.

And why does Penelope give a thumbs uprating to this, when it contradicts her OP ? Maybe she mistakenly thought it was agreeing with her.

 

[JGalt]

Ownership Lead Nation in Gun Deaths, New Data for 2020 Confirms​

Mississippi, Wyoming, Louisiana, Alaska, Missouri, and Alabama Have Highest Gun Death Rates in the Nation; Hawaii, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and New York Have Lowest Gun Death Rates in the Nation
snip
In addition, states with the lowest overall gun death rates have some of the strongest gun violence prevention laws in the nation and lower rates of gun ownership.

https://vpc.org/states-with-weak-gun-laws-and-higher-gun-ownership-lead-nation-in-gun-deaths-new-data-for-2020-confirms/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIo4C_tfPU-AIVLMLCBB2u-g-KEAAYAiAAEgL7w_D_BwE

States with higher rate of gun ownership do not correlate with more gun murders​

https://www.foxnews.com/us/states-higher-rate-gun-ownership-not-correlate-more-gun-murders-data-

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Just the opposite of what fox news says. Hawaii, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and New York are all blue states.

Don't like guns? Then don't buy any.

But don't try to tell me what I can purchase or what I can't purchase.

 

[protectionist]

And who doesnt know that it is the blue cities/states where violent crime, with guns is predominant ?

Democrat Blue States Have 46 Percent More Murders Than Republican Red States

www.netadvisor.org

26 Attorneys General Urge Supreme Court to Reverse California's Agricultural Animal Confinement Law - Tennessee Star

Attorneys general from 26 states are urging the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn a lower-court decision upholding a California law banning the raising or importing pork, veal or eggs if the animals are confined.

tennesseestar.com

1. Detroit

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 20.0

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 50

Mayor: Michael Edward Duggan, Democrat

2. Memphis, Tennessee

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 19.5

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 51

Mayor: Jim Strickland, Democrat

3. Birmingham, Alabama

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 19.3

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 52

Mayor: Randall Woodfin, Democrat

4. Baltimore

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 18.5

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 54

Mayor: Jack Young, Democrat

5. Flint, Michigan

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 18.3

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 55

Mayor: Karen Weaver, Democrat

6. St. Louis

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 18.2

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 55

Mayor: Lyda Krewson, Democrat

7. Danville, Illinois

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 18.0

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 55

Mayor: Ricky Williams Jr. (nonpartisan election)

8. Saginaw, Michigan

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 16.7

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 60

Mayor: Floyd Kloc (nonpartisan election)

9. Wilmington, Delaware

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 16.3

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 61

Mayor: Mike Purzycki, Democrat

10. Camden, New Jersey

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 16.2

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 62

Mayor: Francisco Moran, Democrat

11. Pine Bluff, Arkansas

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 16.0

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 62

Mayor: Shirley Washington, Democrat

12. Kansas City, Missouri

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 15.9

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 63

Mayor: Quinton Lucas, Democrat

13. San Bernardino, California

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 15.3

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 65

Mayor: John Valdivia, Democrat

14. Alexandria, Louisiana

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.6

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 68

Mayor: Jacques Roy, Democrat

15. Little Rock, Arkansas

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.6

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 68

Mayor: Frank Scott Jr., Democrat

16. Cleveland

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.5

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 69

Mayor: Frank Jackson, Democrat

17. Milwaukee

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.3

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 70

Mayor: Tom Barrett, Democrat

18. Stockton, California

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.2

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 70

Mayor: Michael Tubbs, Democrat

19. Monroe, Louisiana

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.1

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 71

Mayor: James Earl Mayo, Democrat

20. Chester, Pennsylvania

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.0

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 71

Mayor: Thaddeus Kirkland, Democrat

 

[Penelope]

The VPC is a BIASED lobby group for the anti-gun crowd in America. They maintain a The VPC maintains a "Concealed Carry Killers" database of fatal non-self defense killings involving private citizens who are legally allowed to carry concealed handguns in public database of fatal non-self defense killings, involving private citizens who are legally allowed to carry concealed handguns in public. Well, how come they don't maintain a database of CCW permit holders who have SAVED the lives of thousands of people.

Secondly, their claims about "Concealed Carry Killers" are a pile of crap. The database was criticized by Clayton Cramer, who claimed that the statistics were inaccurate.[12] John Lott's Crime Prevention Research Center website posted an article questioning the numbers presented on the Concealed Carry Killers database. According to the article, suicides, which may or may not have involved a firearm, and motor vehicle homicides caused by intoxication, are included in the statistics.[13

Massive errors in the Violence Policy Center’s “Concealed Carry Killers”

The Violence Policy Center regularly puts out the claim that concealed handgun permit holders are a danger to themselves and others. Right now they claim that concealed handgun permits have been re…

crimeresearch.org

Didn't they (SC ) make firearms concealed carry in NY. That is all carries.

 

[Penelope]

And who doesnt know that it is the blue cities where violent crime, with guns is predominant ?

Thats not what is says, blue states have less crime by gunfire. Naturally they have more people.

 

[Penelope]

Don't like guns? Then don't buy any.

But don't try to tell me what I can purchase or what I can't purchase.

You must live in a high gun crime state.

 

[Penelope]

All cities have high crime, even St Louis, cities in Florida and cities in Texas.

 

[Penelope]

And who doesnt know that it is the blue cities/states where violent crime, with guns is predominant ?

Democrat Blue States Have 46 Percent More Murders Than Republican Red States

www.netadvisor.org

26 Attorneys General Urge Supreme Court to Reverse California's Agricultural Animal Confinement Law - Tennessee Star

Attorneys general from 26 states are urging the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn a lower-court decision upholding a California law banning the raising or importing pork, veal or eggs if the animals are confined.

tennesseestar.com

1. Detroit

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 20.0

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 50

Mayor: Michael Edward Duggan, Democrat

2. Memphis, Tennessee

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 19.5

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 51

Mayor: Jim Strickland, Democrat

3. Birmingham, Alabama

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 19.3

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 52

Mayor: Randall Woodfin, Democrat

4. Baltimore

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 18.5

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 54

Mayor: Jack Young, Democrat

5. Flint, Michigan

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 18.3

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 55

Mayor: Karen Weaver, Democrat

6. St. Louis

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 18.2

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 55

Mayor: Lyda Krewson, Democrat

7. Danville, Illinois

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 18.0

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 55

Mayor: Ricky Williams Jr. (nonpartisan election)

8. Saginaw, Michigan

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 16.7

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 60

Mayor: Floyd Kloc (nonpartisan election)

9. Wilmington, Delaware

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 16.3

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 61

Mayor: Mike Purzycki, Democrat

10. Camden, New Jersey

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 16.2

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 62

Mayor: Francisco Moran, Democrat

11. Pine Bluff, Arkansas

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 16.0

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 62

Mayor: Shirley Washington, Democrat

12. Kansas City, Missouri

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 15.9

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 63

Mayor: Quinton Lucas, Democrat

13. San Bernardino, California

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 15.3

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 65

Mayor: John Valdivia, Democrat

14. Alexandria, Louisiana

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.6

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 68

Mayor: Jacques Roy, Democrat

15. Little Rock, Arkansas

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.6

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 68

Mayor: Frank Scott Jr., Democrat

16. Cleveland

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.5

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 69

Mayor: Frank Jackson, Democrat

17. Milwaukee

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.3

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 70

Mayor: Tom Barrett, Democrat

18. Stockton, California

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.2

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 70

Mayor: Michael Tubbs, Democrat

19. Monroe, Louisiana

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.1

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 71

Mayor: James Earl Mayo, Democrat

20. Chester, Pennsylvania

Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.0

Odds of being a victim: 1 in 71

Mayor: Thaddeus Kirkland, Democrat

all cities.

 

[protectionist]

Thats not what is says, blue states have less crime by gunfire. Naturally they have more people.

That is exactly the opposite of the truth, Blue states have MORE crime by gunfire. VPC lies.

 

[protectionist]

all cities.

Democrat Blue States Have 46 Percent More Murders Than Republican Red States

www.netadvisor.org

Blue (Democratic) States had 46 percent more murders than Red (Republican) States. The Uniform Crime Report data suggests that states who generally have strong anti-gun views do not reflect in lower murder rates.
We can also conclude the premise that more murders are committed by person(s) using “assault rifles” (AR-15s) is UNFOUNDED.
We further concluded that one is more likely to be killed by an attacker’s hands/ feet (62%), by a cutting instrument (84%), or non-gun weapon (84%), than be killed by a rifle such as an AR-15 (2.8%).

 

[JGalt]

You must live in a high gun crime state.

Nope. We rank as number 36, lower gun crimes than Illinois, Colorado, Oregon, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, and many other states.

Gun deaths by state, ranked

The problem with most statistics is they calculate based on per capita. So naturally shithole liberal states with large populations are going to appear to have less gun crime.

 

[protectionist]

So Penelope would rather be a teacher in a school that has no guns in it, and thus is an inviting, SOFT target for mass shooters, than one where law-abiding, gun-trained teachers are present to ward those criminals away ?

 

[struth]

Ownership Lead Nation in Gun Deaths, New Data for 2020 Confirms​

Mississippi, Wyoming, Louisiana, Alaska, Missouri, and Alabama Have Highest Gun Death Rates in the Nation; Hawaii, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and New York Have Lowest Gun Death Rates in the Nation
snip
In addition, states with the lowest overall gun death rates have some of the strongest gun violence prevention laws in the nation and lower rates of gun ownership.

https://vpc.org/states-with-weak-gun-laws-and-higher-gun-ownership-lead-nation-in-gun-deaths-new-data-for-2020-confirms/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIo4C_tfPU-AIVLMLCBB2u-g-KEAAYAiAAEgL7w_D_BwE

States with higher rate of gun ownership do not correlate with more gun murders​

https://www.foxnews.com/us/states-higher-rate-gun-ownership-not-correlate-more-gun-murders-data-

show

Just the opposite of what fox news says. Hawaii, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and New York are all blue states.

so your data is counting only legal gun owners that register their guns…not at all surprised to see mississippi etc report their firearms…but what about places like baltimore and chicago and the folks that own firearms illegally and don’t report their ownership?

 

[protectionist]

MSN

 

[Penelope]

MSN

That is fox.

 

[Penelope]

so your data is counting only legal gun owners that register their guns…not at all surprised to see mississippi etc report their firearms…but what about places like baltimore and chicago and the folks that own firearms illegally and don’t report their ownership?

well they shouldn't have guns, illegal is right. but that what the study shows.

Ownership Lead Nation in Gun Deaths, New Data for 2020 Confirms​

the study shows all gun deaths.

 

[struth]

well they shouldn't have guns, illegal is right. but that what the study shows.

the study doesn’t show illegal gun owners. it only counted the legal law abiding citizens that report led ownership