Outrageous: 94% of Feds Work From Home

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I hope he does that. If it makes Tesla more competitive that means people think it's a better car, and that's fine with me.

It will also make ICE vehicles more competitive against EV's because they don't have to compete against a gov't preference...

True, but ICE vehicles have far too many advantages over EVs that they don't need any more.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I wonder how many of those people are federal employees and how many are contractors.

People always talk about a "shrinking federal gov't", but they never mention the growth in contracting for the things that were previously done by federal employees...

Not as many contractors on this base like we had at Fort Knox, where the civilians outnumbered the soldiers because of the Human Resources Center's Army employees and our small contractor group who worked in recruiting. My son-in-law once was a firefighter on our local base, Fort Campbell, as a civilian. My daughter once worked for AAFEES at Fort Knox for a time.

 

[para bellum]

True, but ICE vehicles have far too many advantages over EVs that they don't need any more.

Here on the left coast you won't even be able to buy a new ICE vehicle in a few years. They are driving people to EV's with high gas prices too.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I once had a fed “worker” (GS14) ask me to please limit my (personal) phone calls with her to the working hours because, she said, she liked to keep the evenings free for herself.

WTH?

Uh, that's the law. Workers don't get paid extra for overtime as a government employee. You are never required to be on call 24/7/365 outside your work hours.

You seem to have a very limited view of government work. I can assure you that these 6% figures are total BS, except for maybe a few instances in DC.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Here on the left coast you won't even be able to buy a new ICE vehicle in a few years. They are driving people to EV's with high gas prices too.

Yeah, but we all know how messed up the left coast is, and it will get worse before it gets better.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And duplication. There are multiple agencies that do largely the same thing. They could be combined and cut back with no loss of service.

We have an FBI, who needs the ATF?

We have state departments of education, so that one can be severely cut back or transferred to another department.

I hope RFK Jr takes an axe to the HHS department which is one duplicated agency after another.

Intel agencies for the government and military can be another area to be combined.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

There's a general sense here that workers today in general don't have a strong work ethic. Today's young workers rival and exceed any previous generation.

You definitely need to get out more. A couple of years ago, my wife's company, Charter-Spectrum fired about 1/3 of their work force in Louisville, KY on one day. The reason: chronic absenteeism. Young people would just not show up for work on a whim. "No call, no show" got them fired. Some VP was having a bad day and laid the axe to a good number of them when the workers could not handle the call load. They just went out and hired a couple of hundred more quality people who actually wanted to work. Problem solved.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Average salary at Department of Education is $150,000 for sitting on their brains and working from home to infect the students of America with Marxist ideology. Let's abolish the hell out of the DOE.

You realize that Education is the smallest department in the government? Eliminating it is a spit in the ocean.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Damn, you fed workers are dense. If they consistently finish their work in half a day, they do not have enough work. And the reason they do not have enough work is because the government has so many surplus employees that there isn’t enough work to go around.

And what makes it worse is that taxpayers are paying for all these surplus employees when we are running 2 trillions of dollars in the hole every year.

That’s coming to an end.

I would honestly like to know where you got that information, because someone is lying to you. There is never a shortage of work in any government job. I never had a shortage of work in my civilian jobs either.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And workers demanding higher wages will be increasing...

Nobody said you have to meet their demands. Set the pay and hire the best one that applies.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

In the private sector as well. And I will always stand with the workers over the filthy management.

In that case you would be unemployed.

 

[pknopp]

In that case you would be unemployed.

Restaurants couldn't get help until they raised wages.

 

[mikegriffith1]

What the original report actually says is that 94% of federal workers get to telework to varying degrees, with a wide range of how often they can telework. It's not saying that 94% of federal employees work from home on a full-time basis. Some can telework full time, some part time, and some only once or twice per month.

When I worked for the Marine Corps as a civilian during the pandemic, we teleworked 100% of the time for nine months, but our productivity did not decline one bit.

I have several friends who work for private companies who telework full time and only go into the office once or twice a month for a meeting.

 

[Lisa558]

I would honestly like to know where you got that information, because someone is lying to you. There is never a shortage of work in any government job. I never had a shortage of work in my civilian jobs either.

Yeah, riiiight. That’s why every govt employee I know “works” a few hours a day, and intersperses them with walks, grocery store runs, tennis lessons, two-hour lunches, lazing by the pool on summer afternoons, rounds of golf, a “quick” matinee at the movie theater, and odd jobs around the house.

These are all examples taken from real life - in some instances I witnessed it, it some instances them; in other instances they were reported. THE ABUSE IS MASSIVE.

 

[Lisa558]

What the original report actually says is that 94% of federal workers get to telework to varying degrees, with a wide range of how often they can telework. It's not saying that 94% of federal employees work from home on a full-time basis. Some can telework full time, some part time, and some only once or twice per month.

When I worked for the Marine Corps as a civilian during the pandemic, we teleworked 100% of the time for nine months, but our productivity did not decline one bit.

I have several friends who work for private companies who telework full time and only go into the office once or twice a month for a meeting.

Private companies are irrelevant. We taxpayers aren’t paying for the salaries of their employees, and they are not operating in the red.

 

[Lisa558]

Wow. Look at how the government employees are fighting for their continued scam. Sorry, but why do feds think they are entitled to all sorts of special perks and benefits borne at the expense of other people?

And here’s another secret that few people know: when they did have to work like other people and actually…..shudder…..go to the office, they got a COMMUTER STIPEND if they took the Metro! Yup. In addition to their overpaid salaries, taxpayers were also paying them to get to work.

And here’s another another thing mosr don’t know: when it is reported that their COLA increase is 3.4%, or 5.5%, or whatever inflation is - the entire GS chart moves up. But in addition to that, the people in the first three steps of the range also move up a step every year, which is an additional raise. But shhhhhh……

 

[Lisa558]

Here is the ridiculous GS schedule for the people I know out taking walks, enjoying tennis lessons, going to the movies, spending two hours at restaurants, doing odd jobs around the house, going to the shopping mall, etc.

All of them are at the last step of GS 13 or GS 14.

The one I mentioned before who admitted she essentially has a part-time job is at the GS-14 step 10, at $181,000 a year. She goes into the office only once a week and keeps complaining about it.

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/pdf/2024/DCB.pdf

 

[Mashmont]

You realize that Education is the smallest department in the government? Eliminating it is a spit in the ocean.

They spent $242 billion on 2024. A quarter trillion dollars a year is significant.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yeah, riiiight. That’s why every govt employee I know “works” a few hours a day, and intersperses them with walks, grocery store runs, tennis lessons, two-hour lunches, lazing by the pool on summer afternoons, rounds of golf, a “quick” matinee at the movie theater, and odd jobs around the house.

These are all examples taken from real life - in some instances I witnessed it, it some instances them; in other instances they were reported. THE ABUSE IS MASSIVE.

As I pointed out before, you have no idea as to their working hours. You would have said the same thing about me being at Walmart or the movies at 10 am, but I didn't work those hours. I worked mostly in the Mountain, Pacific, Alaskan and Hawaiin time zones. My wife did worked normal hours, but she worked on the east coast. We had one hour where we were both working.

DOGE is guilty of hyperbole.
"Ernst, who chairs the Senate DOGE caucus, claimed in the report that just 6% of federal workers actually work in-person full-time"

MSN

That 6% figure is misleading. It means 94% of federal workers do work in-person at least part of the time.

It doesn't mean on any given day, only 6% of the workforce is present.

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics as the old saying goes.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

They spent $242 billion on 2024. A quarter trillion dollars a year is significant.

You do realize a lot of that is student loans, right? What are not loans, is usually funding sent to states, universities, colleges, and local schools. That's what most of their employees do is hand out money.