Our New Openly Racist World

[dilloduck]

It's called fucking wealth redistribution, obamalama promised us wealth redistribution,,

gold star for you !
hell with the infrastucture----make sure that money gets spread around to other races ( and by pass state legislatures to do it )

 

[Sky Dancer]

What economic measure exactly is Obama proposing that will accomplish wealth redistribution?

We may, as a country, consider strategies of microenterprise. Small loans to people in poor neighborhoods to start up businesses. Wouldn't that be better than welfare?

Why should the corrupt get bailouts?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Another idiot lying cowboy?

geee and I thought this country had had enough of those types.

Yeah, I'm a regular Rex Trailer...go figure

 

[WillowTree]

gold star for you !
hell with the infrastucture----make sure that money gets spread around to other races ( and by pass state legislatures to do it )

you know Bawny Fwank just took some stimulus money and bought himself a tiny little bank in his home state doncha?

Political Interference Seen in Bank Bailout Decisions



Troubled OneUnited Bank in Boston didn't look much like a candidate for aid from the Treasury Department's bank bailout fund last fall.

The Treasury had said it would give money only to healthy banks, to jump-start lending. But OneUnited had seen most of its capital evaporate. Moreover, it was under attack from its regulators for allegations of poor lending practices and executive-pay abuses, including owning a Porsche for its executives' use.

Nonetheless, in December OneUnited got a $12 million injection from the Treasury's Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP. One apparent factor: the intercession of Rep. Barney Frank, the powerful head of the House Financial Services Committee.

Mr. Frank, by his own account, wrote into the TARP bill a provision specifically aimed at helping this particular home-state bank. And later, he acknowledges, he spoke to regulators urging that OneUnited be considered for a cash injection.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123258284337504295.html

 

[Enigma]

Democrats confuse racism with prejudice. Most republicans are prejudiced against anyone who collects welfare, but even more so against anyone who abuses welfare. Yes, many of those people happen to be Black, but many are also White and Hispanic. However, when a Black or Hispanic person or family moves into our neighborhood, we don't go running for the hills. We welcome them to our neighborhood and become their friends.

Democrats, on the other hand, will run for cover as soon as a minority moves into their all White neighborhood. I've seen it. I lived in Chicago for 15 years. The city is 90% Democrats, and the White ones hate the Blacks. As an example, when Harold Washington ran for Mayor of Chicago against Richey Daley and Jane Byrne, he won the primary. When it came to the general election, he barely won with 52% of the vote against a no name Republican by the name of Bernie Epton. The vast majority of White Democrats voted for a Republican because they couldn't stand the thought of a Black Mayor.

That is racism at its core. The far left liberal wing of the Democratic Party is progressive towards Blacks, but the vast majority of Dems are pure racists. It's amazing that Blacks have never figured this out, and that they keep buying into the BS the Democrats feed them. Of course, they do seem to receive more government support when the Dems are in power, but we've seen how much that has helped them out over the years. I'm not talking about laws giving them equal rights and laws that are meant to guard against discrimination; those have been good and necessary and have been supported by both Dems and Republicans. I'm talking about direct handouts.

But no matter how much proof there is, Dems will still tell us how racist Republicans are, and how the Democratic Party is the party for minorities.

I don't think it's legitimate to peg either democrats or republicans as a party as racist. I've certainly encountered a large amount of both democrats and republicans that are racist. However, I will agree what angers me the most is someone who spouts off constantly about how they are for equal rights and all races getting along goes balistic when a minority moves into their neighborhood as you mentioned above.

 

[Missourian]

You people all are conviently ignoring the word "simply".


When he says he doesnt want it "simply" going to high skilled workers and white construction workers hes saying they want it to get to others ALSO.

This is how you guys are going to opperate?

Your party is truely doomed.

If he had said he didn't want those jobs to simply go to black constructions workers, would that be acceptable?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

There isn't any operative word. The message, plain and clear as a bell is, they don't want all the jobs to go to professional white men, so they want SOMEONE, LESS QUALIFIED, to get a job BECAUSE OF THEIR SKIN COLOR, get PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT.... AND THAT'S RACIST.... you IGNORANT TWIT.

Sometimes... you liberals put forth the most PATHETIC defense of the indefensible. It'd be funny if it wasn't so foolish.

your watching, reading and listening comprehension skills are rusty.

Bob was saying he did not want all the government monies to be targeted ...targeted to one group over another...spread the wealth.

the bailout isn't about who is qualified you dope. It's a handout, just refuse it on principle and STFU, okay?

 

[Sky Dancer]

If he had said he didn't want those jobs to simply go to black constructions workers, would that be acceptable?

What he should have said, is that he doesn't want all the infrastructure project money to end up in the hands of a few corrupt unions or companies or the 'good ol boy' network.

 

[Truthmatters]

What economic measure exactly is Obama proposing that will accomplish wealth redistribution?

We may, as a country, consider strategies of microenterprise. Small loans to people in poor neighborhoods to start up businesses. Wouldn't that be better than welfare?

Why should the corrupt get bailouts?

Some people like to sit at home and hope to be trickled down on by corporations.

Others like to use tax dollars to create more tax dollars.

 

[Truthmatters]

If he had said he didn't want those jobs to simply go to black constructions workers, would that be acceptable?

If the fact was that black construction workers made up the bulk of the suppervising positions.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Some people like to sit at home and hope to be trickled down on by corporations.

Others like to use tax dollars to create more tax dollars.

It's all of our money, and it's smart to have a discussion about how to get the best bang for our bucks in investment. We have to look at short-term and long term economic strategies.

 

[Lycurgus]

Hmmmm ........... so are we going to have a Fanny Mae bridge building policy now?

 

[dilloduck]

If he had said he didn't want those jobs to simply go to black constructions workers, would that be acceptable?

Of course not----This is a great example of what I was afraid might happen. These dudes are tasked with QUICKLY stimulating the economy by providing money for rebuilding the infrastructure and what are they doing ? Trying to decide some racial and gneder determined way to pass it out.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Hmmmm ........... so are we going to have a Fanny Mae bridge building policy now?

how long did Fannny Mae work successfully?

 

[Sky Dancer]

They are talking about a fair and equitable distribution of this project money. Historically, where does the money go? Can we do it more fairly than we have in the past? That's the question. Can we give our citizenry a fair shake at participating in the bounce back strategies?

"According to the Washington Post, the recovery package, totaling around $825 billion, contains $550 billion in domestic spending -- infrastructure investments, help for those getting pummeled in the downturn and aid to cash-strapped state and local governments -- and about $275 billion in tax cuts for businesses and individuals. The proposal circulating on the Hill calls for:

A $500 payroll tax credit for workers making below $75,000. Couples making below $150,000 would receive a $1,000 credit.
About $85 billion worth of infrastructure spending, most for highway and bridge construction.
A variety of tax incentives to promote development of renewable energy sources. Expanded assistance to workers who are laid off because their jobs are shifted overseas as the result of trade agreements.
Unemployment benefits increased by $25 per week, and federal welfare funding for the poor also temporarily increased.
Low-income elderly and disabled Social Security recipients would receive a one-time additional monthly payment.
$80 billion in funding to states for education programs and about $90 billion for Medicaid assistance.
The package also contains "temporary subsidies to workers who have lost their jobs, and would extend the availability of COBRA [health] coverage through former employers, beyond the current 18-month period. Addressing another Obama campaign priority, the bill would launch a new health information technology initiative aimed at establishing nationwide standards, payments incentives and privacy protections for medical records."
Congressional Democrats are also considering including a middle-class tax measure that might add $75 billion to the total value of the bill."
http://www.alternet.org/election08/120253/will_the_economic_stimulus_be_too_compromised_to_work/

 

[dilloduck]

They are talking about a fair and equitable distribution of this project money. Historically, where does the money go?

Can we do it more fairly than we have in the past? That's the question. Can we give our citizenry a fair shake at participating in the bounce back strategies?

so fairness is more important than getting the job done quickly and correctly ?

 

[WillowTree]

They are talking about a fair and equitable distribution of this project money. Historically, where does the money go?

Can we do it more fairly than we have in the past? That's the question. Can we give our citizenry a fair shake at participating in the bounce back strategies?

so in your feeble mind discriminating against white males is fair? That's just plain racist.

 

[Missourian]

If the fact was that black construction workers made up the bulk of the suppervising positions.

Gotcha...it's okay to be racist as long as you're the right kind of racist.

 

[dilloduck]

Hmmmm ........... so are we going to have a Fanny Mae bridge building policy now?

well---we certainly don't want highly skilled workers or professionals doing that kind of stuff.

 

[Sky Dancer]

so fairness is more important than getting the job done quickly and correctly ?

Why wouldn't fairness be an American value? Do you think getting a job done quickly and correctly precludes fairness?


According to an analysis by economist Mark Zandi of Moody's (who happens to be a conservative Republican), each dollar spent on corporate tax breaks results in an economic boost of 30 cents; a dollar for reducing capital gains taxes results in 37 cents worth of stimulus, and each dollar in lost revenues from making Bush's tax cuts permanent gives the economy a miniscule 29-cent lift.

Meanwhile, a dollar spent on infrastructure gives the economy a boost of $1.59; a dollar in aid to cash-strapped states gets $1.36 back in economic activity, and each buck spent on food stamps provides $1.73 worth of stimulus.

Economist Dean Baker at the Center for Economic and Policy Research looked not only at the various approaches' impact in terms of dollars, but also on employment. He estimated that $100 billion spent on infrastructure investments would yield about a million net new jobs, while that same amount spent on corporate tax breaks would yield 200,000 jobs -- one-fifth of the bang for the buck.
http://www.alternet.org/election08/...c_stimulus_be_too_compromised_to_work/?page=2