OUCH. Glenn Beck exposed as phony on HealthCare Debate

[DiveCon]

Wow who negative reps people? lol u serious? Dive, you need a cracker or somthing guy? What are you, 13? Christ.



The guy who has "moron" set as his auto answer to everything he's wrong about neg reps people. This is ******* awesome. You belong on comedy central, also.

you are nothing but a fuckwad
**** off

 

[Cold Fusion38]

And I am sorry Dive but of all the people you could be defending Beck is by far the least deserving of your defense.

 

[DiveCon]

Dive do you REALLY dispute what Beck said because I watched the video and it seems clear to me that Beck got fried with his OWN WORDS. He DID, in fact, say that his health care was bad. He did claim that our healthcare is the best in the world. How do you reconcile those two polar opposite statements?

holy shit, you think random clips cut to make for comedy make you see the whole picture?????
REALLLLY????????????

 

[G.T.]

Wow who negative reps people? lol u serious? Dive, you need a cracker or somthing guy? What are you, 13? Christ.



The guy who has "moron" set as his auto answer to everything he's wrong about neg reps people. This is ******* awesome. You belong on comedy central, also.

you are nothing but a fuckwad
**** off

lol u mad?

Here's to Glenn Beck. Another Faux-News beacon of truth.

 

[DiveCon]

And I am sorry Dive but of all the people you could be defending Beck is by far the least deserving of your defense.

i'm not defending him
i dont watch him enough TO defend him
but i'm also not going to demonize him by using the ******* comedy channels splicing and cliping of his show

 

[DiveCon]

Wow who negative reps people? lol u serious? Dive, you need a cracker or somthing guy? What are you, 13? Christ.



The guy who has "moron" set as his auto answer to everything he's wrong about neg reps people. This is ******* awesome. You belong on comedy central, also.

you are nothing but a fuckwad
**** off

lol u mad?

Here's to Glenn Beck. Another Faux-News beacon of truth.

no, i dont get mad
nothing on here is serious enough to make me mad

 

[pinqy]

Dive do you REALLY dispute what Beck said because I watched the video and it seems clear to me that Beck got fried with his OWN WORDS. He DID, in fact, say that his health care was bad. He did claim that our healthcare is the best in the world. How do you reconcile those two polar opposite statements?

holy shit, you think random clips cut to make for comedy make you see the whole picture?????
REALLLLY????????????

So, what is the whole picture, then? You keep claiming the clips don't show the full context, so please, illuminate us...how are the two views not contradictory?

 

[G.T.]

you are nothing but a fuckwad
**** off

lol u mad?

Here's to Glenn Beck. Another Faux-News beacon of truth.

no, i dont get mad
nothing on here is serious enough to make me mad

Ahh, my bad then. I don't usually diss people with terets. (****! shit! moron! rinse/repeat).

Someone hand me a Cold one and shut this shit down. This is complete hall of shame material from Faux Newschannel. Shit, I've hoisted my victory flag and I'm 3/4 wasted already in celebration

 

[PixieStix]

Wow who negative reps people? lol u serious? Dive, you need a cracker or somthing guy? What are you, 13? Christ.



The guy who has "moron" set as his auto answer to everything he's wrong about neg reps people. This is ******* awesome. You belong on comedy central, also.

you are nothing but a fuckwad
**** off

lol u mad?

Here's to Glenn Beck. Another Faux-News beacon of truth.

Hey, no use in c;lapping guy, you haven't won anything here. You only proved what a true hack you are

For that Saul Alinsky would be proud. His legacy lives on

Now give yourself a big bozo button

Nevermind, I'll give you one

 

[DiveCon]

Dive do you REALLY dispute what Beck said because I watched the video and it seems clear to me that Beck got fried with his OWN WORDS. He DID, in fact, say that his health care was bad. He did claim that our healthcare is the best in the world. How do you reconcile those two polar opposite statements?

holy shit, you think random clips cut to make for comedy make you see the whole picture?????
REALLLLY????????????

So, what is the whole picture, then? You keep claiming the clips don't show the full context, so please, illuminate us...how are the two views not contradictory?

its been done over and over on this thread and ignored

 

[G.T.]

Hey, no use in c;lapping guy, you haven't won anything here. You only proved what a true hack you are

For that Saul Alinsky would be proud. His legacy lives on

Now give yourself a big bozo button

When you're in a 12 X12 all white room wearing a nice white jumpsuit, looking out the window down onto the street, does everyone look crazy to you?

 

[Cold Fusion38]

Dive did you see the one where Stewart fried Bill Kristol?

 

[PixieStix]

 

[G.T.]

 

[Bfgrn]

ROFLMFAO

a JFK conspiracy nutter site vs the discovery channel

yeah, which one has more credibility
i'll side with the discovery channel on this one

Pat Speers has much more credibility... I've talked with length with him on numerous occasions...he is very knowledgeable...

PLEASE explain WHY the "credible" Discovery Channel MOVED Jackie Kennedy's head in their re-creation to FALSELY claim she would be struck in the head by a bullet from the grassy knoll???

uh, because they didnt

UH, they DID...

A close look at frame 312, later projected onto the mock target car fired upon in the program, shows Mrs. Kennedy to be slightly forward and left of her husband, looking at his face, and out of line with a shot coming from his right front. So where does the program get off claiming a bullet fired from the picket fence would have hit her?

Only nine seconds after showing its viewers 312, moreover, and claiming "Our team has exactly re-created a forensic moment in history," the program shows an image of the re-enactors shown earlier in the program, layered onto an image of the Kennedy shooting dummy as seen from the picket fence location used by Yardley. This layered image depicts Mrs. Kennedy behind her husband, in direct line for a shot fired from the fence.. At this point the narrator relates "Our first two tests from the grassy knoll show both debris and damage inconsistent with autopsy and film records." By "film records" the program seems to be asserting that the Zapruder film demonstrates Mrs. Kennedy to be behind the President, and that the re-enactors therefore got it right. But only nine seconds earlier, the program had proved this to be untrue! This is utterly baffling. Could this really be an innocent mistake? I mean, shouldn't at least one person working on the program have caught such an obvious mistake?

When asked about this later on the Discovery Channel's website, Gary Mack insisted that, unbelievable as it may seem, that it was in fact an innocent mistake.
http://www.patspeer.com/chapter16c%3Aconfirmationanddisappointment

 

[pinqy]

holy shit, you think random clips cut to make for comedy make you see the whole picture?????
REALLLLY????????????

So, what is the whole picture, then? You keep claiming the clips don't show the full context, so please, illuminate us...how are the two views not contradictory?

its been done over and over on this thread and ignored

Really? Where? I went back through all 20 pages...all you've done is make assertions such as

yeah, cause out of context clips cut for comic value would actually present the truth in context

without saying what the real context was. There were 2 and only 2 attempts to actually reconcile Beck's 2 opposite claims: 1st

Maybe a year ago Beck thought our system sucked -- maybe his experience was bad or whatever. Don't know. But in light of the Obamacare that is on the table he's realized that what we have isn't so bad after all. Hypocrite? Possibly. Then again maybe he sees how much worse things will be if Obamacare goes through and realizes that what he thought was bad is nothing compared to what is coming down the pike.

but this doesn't claim that the clips were out of context, just that Beck might have legitimately changed his mind. Which is possible, but it seems a radical change.

Next was

When Beck was in the hospital he saw the importance of people actually being charitable in the system and *gasp* caring for others. He didn't hate the system. He thinks its the people who need to change.

At no point did he advocate government take over of the industry. At no point has he ever said it wasnt the best of the world. You people are so blind that you dont seem to realize that best in the world doesnt mean perfect.

Which also doesn't claim the clips were out of context, just tries to claim that despite his 2008 harsh criticism, because he didn't say it wasn't the best in the world means it's not contradictory with his later saying it is the best in the world. That's a little dicey. You don't normally harshly criticize something (I believe he used the word "nightmare," but I could be wrong) if it's the best in the world.

So again, you're claiming the clips are out of context and suggesting there were edits and that the clips don't properly represent his views. So, show the context and that there were edits. Shouldn't be hard if you're right.

 

[Dark Starscream]

Here's The One Thing... Regardless of your opinion of Glenn Beck, he has very high ratings on tv and although a bit overdone on drama, his comments are more factual than anything you will see on MSNBC or hear out of that dumb ass guy named Gibbs who spews the Obama's crap everyday on the tube. It's pretty hard for you liberals to accept the fact that guys like Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, and O'Reilly have pegged the administration for what it really is... fucked up.

too bad they were ass lickers during the bush administration, maybe we wouldn't be in the dire economic straights we are in now.....

pointing out the ''enemies'' faults is easy play, easy riling, easy to do and make a hit out of it....doing it when your own people are in power, is noteworthy and has worth....doing the crap they do for the sake of partisanship is the Devil's work imo, and nothing less....same with those on the left that also spin lies....

care

It just amazes me that Obama has spent more money than all the other American Presidents combined since the day of George Washington and he has trippled the national debt - far more financial impact that Bush ever did but yet it is all Bush's fault. This cracks me up. I think you're full of bull.....

Actually, no. GWBush ran the 5 highest national deficits in American history, and doubled our national debt from $5 Trillion to $10.5 Trillion in only 8 years. Our budget for this year was created last year, during the Bush administration, and we were budgeted for another record-breaking deficit.

 

[bodecea]

Here's The One Thing... Regardless of your opinion of Glenn Beck, he has very high ratings on tv and although a bit overdone on drama, his comments are more factual than anything you will see on MSNBC or hear out of that dumb ass guy named Gibbs who spews the Obama's crap everyday on the tube. It's pretty hard for you liberals to accept the fact that guys like Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, and O'Reilly have pegged the administration for what it really is... fucked up.

And what does that say about his audience?

 

[DiveCon]

too bad they were ass lickers during the bush administration, maybe we wouldn't be in the dire economic straights we are in now.....

pointing out the ''enemies'' faults is easy play, easy riling, easy to do and make a hit out of it....doing it when your own people are in power, is noteworthy and has worth....doing the crap they do for the sake of partisanship is the Devil's work imo, and nothing less....same with those on the left that also spin lies....

care

It just amazes me that Obama has spent more money than all the other American Presidents combined since the day of George Washington and he has trippled the national debt - far more financial impact that Bush ever did but yet it is all Bush's fault. This cracks me up. I think you're full of bull.....

Actually, no. GWBush ran the 5 highest national deficits in American history, and doubled our national debt from $5 Trillion to $10.5 Trillion in only 8 years. Our budget for this year was created last year, during the Bush administration, and we were budgeted for another record-breaking deficit.

so you want to exclude that Obama was in the process for making this budget and that he voted for it and he also had the stimulus and omnibus spending bills
which are what made it so much higher in the first place

 

[DiveCon]

Here's The One Thing... Regardless of your opinion of Glenn Beck, he has very high ratings on tv and although a bit overdone on drama, his comments are more factual than anything you will see on MSNBC or hear out of that dumb ass guy named Gibbs who spews the Obama's crap everyday on the tube. It's pretty hard for you liberals to accept the fact that guys like Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, and O'Reilly have pegged the administration for what it really is... fucked up.

And what does that say about his audience?

that in spite of the excess drama, he reports things correctly