Oral Arguments in Supreme Court Today for Trans in Girls Sports

[SweetSue92]

This will occur at 10:00 AM ET. I have to believe this will be shot down; that is, the Court will rule that only biological girls should play in girls sports, at least in public schools and universities.

This is a 70/30 issue in the US, which 70% of Americans thinking that trans boys should NOT be allowed in girls sports.

But should the unlikely occur, I told my husband this morning that I will claim I'm 70 years old so I can collect Social Security. Why not? If people can "identify" as the sex they were not born to, why can't I "identify" as 70?

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Poll: Most Americans oppose trans women competing in female sports, including 2 of 3 in Gen Z

Overall, 75% of American adults say trans women shouldn't be allowed to play on female sports teams, per the NBC News Stay Tuned Poll. Gen Z is the most supportive.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[TNHarley]

Just imagine the arguments that will be had for support of them being in girls sports... smh
The fact this is even an issue, really says a lot about society.

 

[Maxdeath]

The biggest problem is democrats are pushing this and other fringe ideas because they have no real idea of what else, no idea of where to go. The have pretty much abandonded anyone that has a more centrist view of the world so the fringe is all they want to focus on

 

[Zincwarrior]

on now

 

[Dogmaphobe]

The biggest problem is democrats are pushing this and other fringe ideas because they have no real idea of what else, no idea of where to go. The have pretty much abandonded anyone that has a more centrist view of the world so the fringe is all they want to focus on

Also, they are trying to move the bar to the point where this shit IS centrist.

I have yet to encounter so much as one, single leftist here with the honesty necessary to admit that they did not support all this tranny nonsense just a few years ago. They are not even self-aware -- just mindless drones all accepting an ever-shifting reality created for them by the elites.

 

[rightwinger]

We have girls sports for a reason

Women are inferior physically and can’t compete with males

It comes down to what is fair

 

[Lockback]

Just imagine the arguments that will be had for support of them being in girls sports... smh
The fact this is even an issue, really says a lot about society.

The fact that 30% (allegedly) think boys in girls sports is acceptable is one of the most disturbing statistics I can fathom. How warped does one have to be to allow such a sick thought slip into their brain?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Personally, and only personally, this is blackletter law. Federal statutes apply to sex only, and the definition therein does not bandy about with gender because the concept was not a thing when the law was passed.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

This will occur at 10:00 AM ET. I have to believe this will be shot down; that is, the Court will rule that only biological girls should play in girls sports, at least in public schools and universities.

This is a 70/30 issue in the US, which 70% of Americans thinking that trans boys should NOT be allowed in girls sports.

But should the unlikely occur, I told my husband this morning that I will claim I'm 70 years old so I can collect Social Security. Why not? If people can "identify" as the sex they were not born to, why can't I "identify" as 70?

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Poll: Most Americans oppose trans women competing in female sports, including 2 of 3 in Gen Z

Overall, 75% of American adults say trans women shouldn't be allowed to play on female sports teams, per the NBC News Stay Tuned Poll. Gen Z is the most supportive.

www.nbcnews.com

It’s all made up conservative histrionics and these women know it. It’s not about protecting women’s sports. It about punishing and marginalizing trans kids.

Once and For All: This Is Why We Support Trans Women and Girls in Sports



In recent years, the far right has been attempting to divide, and thereby weaken, our feminist movement with fearmongering around transgender women athletes in women’s sports.

The National Women’s Law Center (NWLC) unequivocally supports the inclusion of trans women in women’s sports. And if you call yourself a feminist, you should too.

Lie #1: Trans women have an unfair advantage in sports.

First off, the small number of trans and intersex girls and women athletes have NOT demonstrated any categorical “dominance” or overwhelming advantage. Years of data negate this dominance argument.

Second, this notion that trans girls have an overall competitive advantage in sports also implies that every single cisgender woman is physically inferior, which feeds into sexist stereotypes and pits women against women. It also risks opening the door to questioning every woman’s femininity.

Finally, this notion overlooks the fact that class and money are often responsible for competitive advantages in sports (i.e., access to private coaching, better facilities, better sports equipment, and specialized training).

Lie #2: Trans women will take opportunities away from cis women.

We have SO much to say on this point.

First, there are actually very few trans people in competitive sports—and the success of those trans people has, for the most part, been exaggerated to perpetuate transphobia. (Many of the politicians pushing hateful anti-trans laws at the state level could not identify even one trans girl playing school sports in their state—much less causing any issues in competitions).

Second, initial research shows “participation among high school girls remained static from 2011 to 2019 in states with fully transgender-inclusive sports policies, whereas participation among girls in states with outright bans or trans-exclusive policies (combined) has decreased.”

Lie #3: Cisgender girls shouldn’t have to share locker rooms or bathrooms with trans girls.

First, it’s important to note that nondiscrimination laws protecting trans people in these kinds of facilities have been around for a long time, with no increase in safety risks in public restrooms and other gender-segregated facilities, according to a UCLA study.

Furthermore, policies that exclude trans women and girls from women’s locker rooms don’t just make trans women and girls more vulnerable to harassment. They ALSO endanger cis women. In fact, we already have accounts of cisgender women being attacked in public spaces because people assumed they were trans.

That is, in part, why dozens of anti-sexual assault and domestic violence organizations have come out in support of inclusive restroom policies.

Lie #4: Excluding trans athletes “protects” women and girls.

First off, this statement erases the fact that trans women and girls are women and girls. Even further, this does nothing to protect women and girls—really, it endangers them.

Anti-trans sports bans subject all women and girls to accusations of being “too masculine” or “too good” at their sport to be a “real” woman or girl. Some require women and girls to verify their gender through sex testing, even proposing invasive and traumatic medical examinations. There’s actually a long, ugly history of this. And these tests especially harm women and girls who fall outside stereotypical notions of womanhood, who are intersex, or Black and brown, because they don’t conform to white standards of femininity.

If these “feminists” actually cared about “protecting” women, they would take action to address the very real issues women athletes face every day.

Finally, we have to talk about Title IX—the civil rights law that promises to eradicate sex discrimination in schools.

 

[Lockback]

It’s all made up conservative histrionics and these women know it. It’s not about protecting women’s sports. It about punishing and marginalizing trans kids.

Once and For All: This Is Why We Support Trans Women and Girls in Sports



In recent years, the far right has been attempting to divide, and thereby weaken, our feminist movement with fearmongering around transgender women athletes in women’s sports.

The National Women’s Law Center (NWLC) unequivocally supports the inclusion of trans women in women’s sports. And if you call yourself a feminist, you should too.

Lie #1: Trans women have an unfair advantage in sports.



Lie #2: Trans women will take opportunities away from cis women.



Lie #3: Cisgender girls shouldn’t have to share locker rooms or bathrooms with trans girls.





Lie #4: Excluding trans athletes “protects” women and girls.



Finally, we have to talk about Title IX—the civil rights law that promises to eradicate sex discrimination in schools.

I literally cannot comprehend how anyone can believe these lies.
This is some of the sickest shit I've ever seen.
I won't even bother to attack it point by point. I have an appointment to get to and the blatant bullshit in this is so obvious and mind-blowing, it wouldn't convince anyone anyway.
That's some really sick garbage.

 

[TheInfiniteSadness]

At the end of the day 25% of the people will not be happy with the decision which is what happens in democratic countries.

 

[rightwinger]

It is a competitive sport

Boys who have entered puberty have a competitive advantage

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I literally cannot comprehend how anyone can believe these lies.
This is some of the sickest shit I've ever seen.
I won't even bother to attack it point by point. I have an appointment to get to and the blatant bullshit in this is so obvious and mind-blowing, it wouldn't convince anyone anyway.
That's some really sick garbage.

Do you realize that it is totally unclear which side your on here ?

 

[Zincwarrior]

LIstened to it. The Q and A actually confused me a good bit. Stories after are saying sounds like SCOTUS is supportive of the state laws.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

What's ironic, is 'Title IV' has been used to ensure women get equal treatment when it comes to federal funding of college sports.
The same law is now being asked to disrupt that equal treatment, by allowing biological men to compete against them.

 

[Blaster]

This should be a no brainer.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

What's ironic, is 'Title IV' has been used to ensure women get equal treatment when it comes to federal funding of college sports.
The same law is now being asked to disrupt that equal treatment, by allowing biological men to compete against them.

Obviously you do not understand much about trans people. Education is a wonderful thing,

 

[SweetSue92]

Also, they are trying to move the bar to the point where this shit IS centrist.

I have yet to encounter so much as one, single leftist here with the honesty necessary to admit that they did not support all this tranny nonsense just a few years ago. They are not even self-aware -- just mindless drones all accepting an ever-shifting reality created for them by the elites.

THIS

It was a moral panic, like so many in the 21st century

 

[SweetSue92]

We have girls sports for a reason

Women are inferior physically and can’t compete with males

It comes down to what is fair

So you concede this issue....good to know!

 

[SweetSue92]

It’s all made up conservative histrionics and these women know it. It’s not about protecting women’s sports. It about punishing and marginalizing trans kids.

Once and For All: This Is Why We Support Trans Women and Girls in Sports



In recent years, the far right has been attempting to divide, and thereby weaken, our feminist movement with fearmongering around transgender women athletes in women’s sports.

The National Women’s Law Center (NWLC) unequivocally supports the inclusion of trans women in women’s sports. And if you call yourself a feminist, you should too.

Lie #1: Trans women have an unfair advantage in sports.



Lie #2: Trans women will take opportunities away from cis women.



Lie #3: Cisgender girls shouldn’t have to share locker rooms or bathrooms with trans girls.





Lie #4: Excluding trans athletes “protects” women and girls.



Finally, we have to talk about Title IX—the civil rights law that promises to eradicate sex discrimination in schools.

So you hate and want to marginalize biological women. Good to know!