Opposing the AGW Consensus are . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

[abu afak]

Still Waiting.
Another FRAUD - SunsetTommy - had to virtually quit the board when I asked him to lay out the same.
He only posts when I step away for a few months.

Moving this target is deceitful ... my only allowance is to split what temperature data we do have in half ... or two 70-year periods to average, and this gives us two numbers, the later one is slightly higher that the earlier one ... thus slight global warming ... and 1ºC is slight ...

You mentioned the 30-year-average and this will give us global cooling during World War Two and all the rebuilding afterwards ... an obvious counter-example to the main AGW argument ...

Again ... in the scientific media, we have to state our time interval ... or we won't get published ... simple ...

I have questions for YOU: one of the many BS artists posting here.
Your whole life is "Physics dropping"/showing off with meaningless greek letters/formulas.
SO:
1. Is the climate warming?
2. Is man (and his GHGs) contributing to this in a significant or majority degree?
YES OR NO?
3. Optional/dependent: How fast is it warming/melting and what would be "Catastrophic" in that respect?

Despite the fact you must know Man is, you spend all your time BuIIshitting with with tangential Physics formulas and not telling your allies they are wrong and not wanting to be call a "lib"/"Leftist"/"Chicken little."

TIME TO SPEAK UP ON THEE ISSUE BOY.
`

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Exxon scientists predicted global warming with 'shocking skill ...​

Harvard Gazette
https://news.harvard.edu › gazette › story › 2023/01
Jan 12, 2023 — Research shows that company modeled and predicted global warming with 'shocking skill and accuracy' starting in the 1970s. Projections created ...

Exxon Knew about Climate Change Almost 40 Years Ago​

Exxon Knew about Climate Change Almost 40 Years Ago
Scientific American
https://www.scientificamerican.com › article › exxon-k...
Oct 26, 2015 — A new investigation shows the oil company understood the science before it became a public issue and spent millions to promote ...

Exxon Scientists Predicted Global Warming, Even as ...​

The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › 2023/01/12 › climate › exx...
Jan 12, 2023 — Global warming projections made or recorded by ExxonMobil scientists between 1977 and 2003 closely tracked with observed temperature increases.

Exxon's Own Research Confirmed Fossil Fuels' Role in ...​

Inside Climate News
https://insideclimatenews.org › News
May 2, 2024 — David, the head of Exxon Research, told a global warming conference financed by Exxon in October 1982 that “few people doubt that the world ...

Assessing ExxonMobil's global warming projections​

Science | AAAS​

https://www.science.org › doi › science.abk0063​

by G Supran · 2023 · Cited by 152 — Accurate and skillful climate modeling. Overall, ExxonMobil's global warming projections closely track subsequent observed temperature increases ...

Exxon climate predictions were accurate decades ago. Still ...​

NPR
https://www.npr.org › 2023/01/12 › exxon-climate-pre...
Jan 12, 2023 — Exxon's climate research decades back painted an accurate picture of global warming, according to a new scientific paper.

Revealed: Exxon made 'breathtakingly' accurate climate ...​

The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › business › jan › exxon-...
Jan 12, 2023 — The oil giant Exxon privately “predicted global warming correctly and skilfully” only to then spend decades publicly rubbishing such science ...

Exxon's Own Models Predicted Global Warming​

Scientific American​

https://www.scientificamerican.com › article › exxons-o...​

Jan 13, 2023 — Exxon's Own Models Predicted Global Warming—It Ignored Them. Scientists working for the oil giant Exxon in the 1970s and 1980s estimated ...

Exxon predicted global warming with remarkable accuracy​

CNBC​

https://www.cnbc.com › 2023/01/12 › exxon-predicted...​

Jan 12, 2023 — "We now have airtight, unimpeachable evidence that ExxonMobil accurately predicted global warming years before it turned around and publicly ...

Exxon scientists knew almost exactly how bad climate ...​

Fortune
https://fortune.com › 2023/01/12 › exxon-scientists-clim...

Jan 12, 2023 — It “gives us airtight evidence that Exxon Mobil accurately predicted global warming years before, then turned around and attacked the science ...


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Solar is not cheaper. We need power 24 hours a day.
A few hours of useful solar a day will never work.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Still Waiting.
Another FRAUD - SunsetTommy - had to virtually quit the board when I asked him to lay out the same.
He only posts when I step away for a few months.


I have questions for YOU: one of the many BS artists posting here.
Your whole life is "Physics dropping"/showing off with meaningless greek letters/formulas.
SO:
1. Is the climate warming?
2. Is man (and his GHGs) contributing to this in a significant or majority degree?
YES OR NO?
3. Optional/dependent: How fast is it warming/melting and what would be "Catastrophic" in that respect?

Despite the fact you must know Man is, you spend all your time BuIIshitting with with tangential Physics formulas and not telling your allies they are wrong and not wanting to be call a "lib"/"Leftist"/"Chicken little."

TIME TO SPEAK UP ON THEE ISSUE BOY.
`

1. Is the climate warming?

Yes.


2. Is man (and his GHGs) contributing to this in a significant or majority degree?
YES OR NO?
To some degree.

3. Optional/dependent: How fast is it warming/melting and what would be "Catastrophic" in that respect?

It may be harmful. It may be beneficial. Too soon to tell.

We need cheap reliable energy more than we need expensive unreliable energy.

The cheap and reliable energy could be from fossil fuels or it could be nuclear.
Which do you prefer?

The third world wants a better life for their children.
You can't tell them they can't use reliable energy to do it, just because the temperature
might rise a degree or so in the next hundred years.

Well, you can try to tell them, but they won't listen.

 

[ding]

Exxon scientists predicted global warming with 'shocking skill ...​

Harvard Gazette
https://news.harvard.edu › gazette › story › 2023/01
Jan 12, 2023 — Research shows that company modeled and predicted global warming with 'shocking skill and accuracy' starting in the 1970s. Projections created ...

Exxon Knew about Climate Change Almost 40 Years Ago​

Exxon Knew about Climate Change Almost 40 Years Ago
Scientific American
https://www.scientificamerican.com › article › exxon-k...
Oct 26, 2015 — A new investigation shows the oil company understood the science before it became a public issue and spent millions to promote ...

Exxon Scientists Predicted Global Warming, Even as ...​

The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › 2023/01/12 › climate › exx...
Jan 12, 2023 — Global warming projections made or recorded by ExxonMobil scientists between 1977 and 2003 closely tracked with observed temperature increases.

Exxon's Own Research Confirmed Fossil Fuels' Role in ...​

Inside Climate News
https://insideclimatenews.org › News
May 2, 2024 — David, the head of Exxon Research, told a global warming conference financed by Exxon in October 1982 that “few people doubt that the world ...

Assessing ExxonMobil's global warming projections​

Science | AAAS​

https://www.science.org › doi › science.abk0063​

by G Supran · 2023 · Cited by 152 — Accurate and skillful climate modeling. Overall, ExxonMobil's global warming projections closely track subsequent observed temperature increases ...

Exxon climate predictions were accurate decades ago. Still ...​

NPR
https://www.npr.org › 2023/01/12 › exxon-climate-pre...
Jan 12, 2023 — Exxon's climate research decades back painted an accurate picture of global warming, according to a new scientific paper.

Revealed: Exxon made 'breathtakingly' accurate climate ...​

The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › business › jan › exxon-...
Jan 12, 2023 — The oil giant Exxon privately “predicted global warming correctly and skilfully” only to then spend decades publicly rubbishing such science ...

Exxon's Own Models Predicted Global Warming​

Scientific American​

https://www.scientificamerican.com › article › exxons-o...​

Jan 13, 2023 — Exxon's Own Models Predicted Global Warming—It Ignored Them. Scientists working for the oil giant Exxon in the 1970s and 1980s estimated ...

Exxon predicted global warming with remarkable accuracy​

CNBC​

https://www.cnbc.com › 2023/01/12 › exxon-predicted...​

Jan 12, 2023 — "We now have airtight, unimpeachable evidence that ExxonMobil accurately predicted global warming years before it turned around and publicly ...

Exxon scientists knew almost exactly how bad climate ...​

Fortune
https://fortune.com › 2023/01/12 › exxon-scientists-clim...

Jan 12, 2023 — It “gives us airtight evidence that Exxon Mobil accurately predicted global warming years before, then turned around and attacked the science ...


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So your point is Exxon was wrong too?

 

[EMH]

1. Is the climate warming?

Yes.


2. Is man (and his GHGs) contributing to this in a significant or majority degree?
YES OR NO?
To some degree.

3. Optional/dependent: How fast is it warming/melting and what would be "Catastrophic" in that respect?

It may be harmful. It may be beneficial. Too soon to tell.

We need cheap reliable energy more than we need expensive unreliable energy.

The cheap and reliable energy could be from fossil fuels or it could be nuclear.
Which do you prefer?

The third world wants a better life for their children.
You can't tell them they can't use reliable energy to do it, just because the temperature
might rise a degree or so in the next hundred years.

Well, you can try to tell them, but they won't listen.

1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?
2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska?
3. If the oceans are "warming" why is the record decade for canes still the 1940s?
4. If the oceans are "rising" why can't we see one single photo of land sinking?
5. How did Co2 thaw North America and freeze Greenland at the same time?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?
2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska?
3. If the oceans are "warming" why is the record decade for canes still the 1940s?
4. If the oceans are "rising" why can't we see one single photo of land sinking?
5. How did Co2 thaw North America and freeze Greenland at the same time?

It's the Jews.
They faked all the data, all over the world, to make it look like SAP is falling. DURR
Just to make EMH look like a moron.