One reason the supposed Russian hacking to influence the election is a false narrative.

[Eloy]

Where did they say this?

"While the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) does not dispute the CIA's analysis of Russian hacking operations, it has not endorsed their assessment because of a lack of conclusive evidence that Moscow intended to boost Trump over Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton, said the officials, who declined to be named.

The position of the ODNI, which oversees the 17 agency-strong U.S. intelligence community, could give Trump fresh ammunition to dispute the CIA assessment, which he rejected as "ridiculous" in weekend remarks, and press his assertion that no evidence implicates Russia in the cyber attacks.

Trump's rejection of the CIA's judgment marks the latest in a string of disputes over Russia's international conduct that have erupted between the president-elect and the intelligence community he will soon command.

An ODNI spokesman declined to comment on the issue.

"ODNI is not arguing that the agency (CIA) is wrong, only that they can't prove intent," said one of the three U.S. officials. "Of course they can't, absent agents in on the decision-making in Moscow."

The Federal Bureau of Investigation, whose evidentiary standards require it to make cases that can stand up in court, declined to accept the CIA's analysis - a deductive assessment of the available intelligence - for the same reason, the three officials said."

Exclusive: Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking - sources

Of course, the while thing is preposterous since there is nothing in the Wikileaks emails that could have conceivably influenced the elections, so if their goal was to influence the election, why would they publish things that wouldn't do that? Clinton's email problems came from her handling of the controversy over her secret private server, not from Wikileaks.

Obama is now attacking the media for treating Clinton unfairly by reporting the content of the hacked emails. Apparently, the President believes that fair elections can only be had if the media ignores news that is unfavorable to Democrats. It is disturbing that man with such a mindset has been president for eight years.

And what they said, as you've posted is "ODNI is not arguing that the agency (CIA) is wrong"

The evidence that there is hacking appears to be there, what isn't there is enough proof of INTENT TO HELP TRUMP.

Actually, there's more than that that isn't there. No one has said that there is evidence the alleged Russia hacks produced the emails that were published by Wikileaks. There could have been other hacks or leaks that produced these emails. We all know Republicans and Democrats spy on each other during election campaigns and there were many outraged Sanders supporters who believed the DNC had cheated Sanders out of the nomination who would likely have jumped at the opportunity to expose DNC secrets and abuses. Keep in mind that none of the Wikileaks emails were damaging to Clinton, contrary to the propaganda coming from the WH and Clinton campaign, but they were often very damaging to the DNC the Sanders supporters hated. The only real casualty of the Wikileaks emails was Wasserman-Schultz.

Sure, but then again no one actually knows what the hacking entails either. Hacking of the DNC websites is one thing, would Sander's people want to give Trump a lift? Why not wait until after the elect then release the things when more people would take notice?

Election based systems were scanned.

Why the US fears Russia is hacking its presidential election - BBC News

"A number of US states have also reported scanning and probing of election related systems - such as voter databases."

Why would Sander's people do this? This is more likely the work of people who don't know about these systems, say, a foreign govt.

The hacks of the DNC did not hurt Clinton or help Trump, they did hurt some in the leadership of the Party, the very people Sanders supporters accused of cheating them.

You underestimate the effect of all the hate radio and FOX News putting into the minds of people that Hillary Clinton was a crook and should be locked-up. There was incessant talk of the emails and even the FBI were suggesting that all the leaked emails gathered by the Russians might expose high crimes. All this must have made a difference.

 

[toomuchtime_]

"While the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) does not dispute the CIA's analysis of Russian hacking operations, it has not endorsed their assessment because of a lack of conclusive evidence that Moscow intended to boost Trump over Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton, said the officials, who declined to be named.

The position of the ODNI, which oversees the 17 agency-strong U.S. intelligence community, could give Trump fresh ammunition to dispute the CIA assessment, which he rejected as "ridiculous" in weekend remarks, and press his assertion that no evidence implicates Russia in the cyber attacks.

Trump's rejection of the CIA's judgment marks the latest in a string of disputes over Russia's international conduct that have erupted between the president-elect and the intelligence community he will soon command.

An ODNI spokesman declined to comment on the issue.

"ODNI is not arguing that the agency (CIA) is wrong, only that they can't prove intent," said one of the three U.S. officials. "Of course they can't, absent agents in on the decision-making in Moscow."

The Federal Bureau of Investigation, whose evidentiary standards require it to make cases that can stand up in court, declined to accept the CIA's analysis - a deductive assessment of the available intelligence - for the same reason, the three officials said."

Exclusive: Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking - sources

Of course, the while thing is preposterous since there is nothing in the Wikileaks emails that could have conceivably influenced the elections, so if their goal was to influence the election, why would they publish things that wouldn't do that? Clinton's email problems came from her handling of the controversy over her secret private server, not from Wikileaks.

Obama is now attacking the media for treating Clinton unfairly by reporting the content of the hacked emails. Apparently, the President believes that fair elections can only be had if the media ignores news that is unfavorable to Democrats. It is disturbing that man with such a mindset has been president for eight years.

And what they said, as you've posted is "ODNI is not arguing that the agency (CIA) is wrong"

The evidence that there is hacking appears to be there, what isn't there is enough proof of INTENT TO HELP TRUMP.

Actually, there's more than that that isn't there. No one has said that there is evidence the alleged Russia hacks produced the emails that were published by Wikileaks. There could have been other hacks or leaks that produced these emails. We all know Republicans and Democrats spy on each other during election campaigns and there were many outraged Sanders supporters who believed the DNC had cheated Sanders out of the nomination who would likely have jumped at the opportunity to expose DNC secrets and abuses. Keep in mind that none of the Wikileaks emails were damaging to Clinton, contrary to the propaganda coming from the WH and Clinton campaign, but they were often very damaging to the DNC the Sanders supporters hated. The only real casualty of the Wikileaks emails was Wasserman-Schultz.

Sure, but then again no one actually knows what the hacking entails either. Hacking of the DNC websites is one thing, would Sander's people want to give Trump a lift? Why not wait until after the elect then release the things when more people would take notice?

Election based systems were scanned.

Why the US fears Russia is hacking its presidential election - BBC News

"A number of US states have also reported scanning and probing of election related systems - such as voter databases."

Why would Sander's people do this? This is more likely the work of people who don't know about these systems, say, a foreign govt.

The hacks of the DNC did not hurt Clinton or help Trump, they did hurt some in the leadership of the Party, the very people Sanders supporters accused of cheating them.

You underestimate the effect of all the hate radio and FOX News putting into the minds of people that Hillary Clinton was a crook and should be locked-up. There was incessant talk of the emails and even the FBI were suggesting that all the leaked emails gathered by the Russians might expose high crimes. All this must have made a difference.

Clearly, you need to put your tin foil hat back on because all those rays coming from your radio are making you crazy.

 

[Eloy]

And what they said, as you've posted is "ODNI is not arguing that the agency (CIA) is wrong"

The evidence that there is hacking appears to be there, what isn't there is enough proof of INTENT TO HELP TRUMP.

Actually, there's more than that that isn't there. No one has said that there is evidence the alleged Russia hacks produced the emails that were published by Wikileaks. There could have been other hacks or leaks that produced these emails. We all know Republicans and Democrats spy on each other during election campaigns and there were many outraged Sanders supporters who believed the DNC had cheated Sanders out of the nomination who would likely have jumped at the opportunity to expose DNC secrets and abuses. Keep in mind that none of the Wikileaks emails were damaging to Clinton, contrary to the propaganda coming from the WH and Clinton campaign, but they were often very damaging to the DNC the Sanders supporters hated. The only real casualty of the Wikileaks emails was Wasserman-Schultz.

Sure, but then again no one actually knows what the hacking entails either. Hacking of the DNC websites is one thing, would Sander's people want to give Trump a lift? Why not wait until after the elect then release the things when more people would take notice?

Election based systems were scanned.

Why the US fears Russia is hacking its presidential election - BBC News

"A number of US states have also reported scanning and probing of election related systems - such as voter databases."

Why would Sander's people do this? This is more likely the work of people who don't know about these systems, say, a foreign govt.

The hacks of the DNC did not hurt Clinton or help Trump, they did hurt some in the leadership of the Party, the very people Sanders supporters accused of cheating them.

You underestimate the effect of all the hate radio and FOX News putting into the minds of people that Hillary Clinton was a crook and should be locked-up. There was incessant talk of the emails and even the FBI were suggesting that all the leaked emails gathered by the Russians might expose high crimes. All this must have made a difference.

Clearly, you need to put your tin foil hat back on because all those rays coming from your radio are making you crazy.

So be it. We shall soon see what happens.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Actually, there's more than that that isn't there. No one has said that there is evidence the alleged Russia hacks produced the emails that were published by Wikileaks. There could have been other hacks or leaks that produced these emails. We all know Republicans and Democrats spy on each other during election campaigns and there were many outraged Sanders supporters who believed the DNC had cheated Sanders out of the nomination who would likely have jumped at the opportunity to expose DNC secrets and abuses. Keep in mind that none of the Wikileaks emails were damaging to Clinton, contrary to the propaganda coming from the WH and Clinton campaign, but they were often very damaging to the DNC the Sanders supporters hated. The only real casualty of the Wikileaks emails was Wasserman-Schultz.

Sure, but then again no one actually knows what the hacking entails either. Hacking of the DNC websites is one thing, would Sander's people want to give Trump a lift? Why not wait until after the elect then release the things when more people would take notice?

Election based systems were scanned.

Why the US fears Russia is hacking its presidential election - BBC News

"A number of US states have also reported scanning and probing of election related systems - such as voter databases."

Why would Sander's people do this? This is more likely the work of people who don't know about these systems, say, a foreign govt.

The hacks of the DNC did not hurt Clinton or help Trump, they did hurt some in the leadership of the Party, the very people Sanders supporters accused of cheating them.

You underestimate the effect of all the hate radio and FOX News putting into the minds of people that Hillary Clinton was a crook and should be locked-up. There was incessant talk of the emails and even the FBI were suggesting that all the leaked emails gathered by the Russians might expose high crimes. All this must have made a difference.

Clearly, you need to put your tin foil hat back on because all those rays coming from your radio are making you crazy.

So be it. We shall soon see what happens.

lol I will, but it's not clear you will be able to.

 

[Eloy]

Sure, but then again no one actually knows what the hacking entails either. Hacking of the DNC websites is one thing, would Sander's people want to give Trump a lift? Why not wait until after the elect then release the things when more people would take notice?

Election based systems were scanned.

Why the US fears Russia is hacking its presidential election - BBC News

"A number of US states have also reported scanning and probing of election related systems - such as voter databases."

Why would Sander's people do this? This is more likely the work of people who don't know about these systems, say, a foreign govt.

The hacks of the DNC did not hurt Clinton or help Trump, they did hurt some in the leadership of the Party, the very people Sanders supporters accused of cheating them.

You underestimate the effect of all the hate radio and FOX News putting into the minds of people that Hillary Clinton was a crook and should be locked-up. There was incessant talk of the emails and even the FBI were suggesting that all the leaked emails gathered by the Russians might expose high crimes. All this must have made a difference.

Clearly, you need to put your tin foil hat back on because all those rays coming from your radio are making you crazy.

So be it. We shall soon see what happens.

lol I will, but it's not clear you will be able to.

Meaning?

 

[toomuchtime_]

The hacks of the DNC did not hurt Clinton or help Trump, they did hurt some in the leadership of the Party, the very people Sanders supporters accused of cheating them.

You underestimate the effect of all the hate radio and FOX News putting into the minds of people that Hillary Clinton was a crook and should be locked-up. There was incessant talk of the emails and even the FBI were suggesting that all the leaked emails gathered by the Russians might expose high crimes. All this must have made a difference.

Clearly, you need to put your tin foil hat back on because all those rays coming from your radio are making you crazy.

So be it. We shall soon see what happens.

lol I will, but it's not clear you will be able to.

Meaning?

Meaning you clearly can't see what is in front of you.

 

[Eloy]

You underestimate the effect of all the hate radio and FOX News putting into the minds of people that Hillary Clinton was a crook and should be locked-up. There was incessant talk of the emails and even the FBI were suggesting that all the leaked emails gathered by the Russians might expose high crimes. All this must have made a difference.

Clearly, you need to put your tin foil hat back on because all those rays coming from your radio are making you crazy.

So be it. We shall soon see what happens.

lol I will, but it's not clear you will be able to.

Meaning?

Meaning you clearly can't see what is in front of you.

Perhaps you will change your mind.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Where did they say this?

"While the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) does not dispute the CIA's analysis of Russian hacking operations, it has not endorsed their assessment because of a lack of conclusive evidence that Moscow intended to boost Trump over Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton, said the officials, who declined to be named.

The position of the ODNI, which oversees the 17 agency-strong U.S. intelligence community, could give Trump fresh ammunition to dispute the CIA assessment, which he rejected as "ridiculous" in weekend remarks, and press his assertion that no evidence implicates Russia in the cyber attacks.

Trump's rejection of the CIA's judgment marks the latest in a string of disputes over Russia's international conduct that have erupted between the president-elect and the intelligence community he will soon command.

An ODNI spokesman declined to comment on the issue.

"ODNI is not arguing that the agency (CIA) is wrong, only that they can't prove intent," said one of the three U.S. officials. "Of course they can't, absent agents in on the decision-making in Moscow."

The Federal Bureau of Investigation, whose evidentiary standards require it to make cases that can stand up in court, declined to accept the CIA's analysis - a deductive assessment of the available intelligence - for the same reason, the three officials said."

Exclusive: Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking - sources

Of course, the while thing is preposterous since there is nothing in the Wikileaks emails that could have conceivably influenced the elections, so if their goal was to influence the election, why would they publish things that wouldn't do that? Clinton's email problems came from her handling of the controversy over her secret private server, not from Wikileaks.

Obama is now attacking the media for treating Clinton unfairly by reporting the content of the hacked emails. Apparently, the President believes that fair elections can only be had if the media ignores news that is unfavorable to Democrats. It is disturbing that man with such a mindset has been president for eight years.

And what they said, as you've posted is "ODNI is not arguing that the agency (CIA) is wrong"

The evidence that there is hacking appears to be there, what isn't there is enough proof of INTENT TO HELP TRUMP.

Actually, there's more than that that isn't there. No one has said that there is evidence the alleged Russia hacks produced the emails that were published by Wikileaks. There could have been other hacks or leaks that produced these emails. We all know Republicans and Democrats spy on each other during election campaigns and there were many outraged Sanders supporters who believed the DNC had cheated Sanders out of the nomination who would likely have jumped at the opportunity to expose DNC secrets and abuses. Keep in mind that none of the Wikileaks emails were damaging to Clinton, contrary to the propaganda coming from the WH and Clinton campaign, but they were often very damaging to the DNC the Sanders supporters hated. The only real casualty of the Wikileaks emails was Wasserman-Schultz.

Sure, but then again no one actually knows what the hacking entails either. Hacking of the DNC websites is one thing, would Sander's people want to give Trump a lift? Why not wait until after the elect then release the things when more people would take notice?

Election based systems were scanned.

Why the US fears Russia is hacking its presidential election - BBC News

"A number of US states have also reported scanning and probing of election related systems - such as voter databases."

Why would Sander's people do this? This is more likely the work of people who don't know about these systems, say, a foreign govt.

The hacks of the DNC did not hurt Clinton or help Trump, they did hurt some in the leadership of the Party, the very people Sanders supporters accused of cheating them.

Did they not hurt Hillary? Maybe the did, it all depends on those voters who made the decision to vote one way or another in certain states that actually get to choose the president.