One Nation under God

[Mortimer]

What makes a nation great? Is a nation’s greatness defined in its military, economic, or political power? The Bible tells us that the greatness of a nation is defined by her character. In Proverbs 14:34 we read, “Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people.” This was a seminal verse used by America’s founders to help them develop a political theology that would give birth to generations of flourishing here in America.

 

[frigidweirdo]

What makes a nation great? Is a nation’s greatness defined in its military, economic, or political power? The Bible tells us that the greatness of a nation is defined by her character. In Proverbs 14:34 we read, “Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people.” This was a seminal verse used by America’s founders to help them develop a political theology that would give birth to generations of flourishing here in America.

A great country is a country where people can live their lives well. that requires a lot of things, and most countries fail at this.

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

I believe what makes a nation great is a combination of things:
1. Individual rights (freedoms), which most nations lack.
2. Free market economy that encourages "innovation," (inventing).

 

[MisterBeale]

What makes a nation great?

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

A load of crap. Existing Oligarchy: Russia. The citizens have the right to vote and do so, however, the head(s) of the Oligarchy, imprison and/or kill popular candidates.
The best current system, which should stand as is: The United States Constitution and its Bill of Rights. It is called a "living document," as Amendments can be added to make necessary changes. The Constitution allows for direct democratic voting for congressional and senatorial candidates in their local areas, although in the case of the senatorial candidates, no state is allowed more than two senators. The president is the exception to the direct democratic voting. The Electoral College gives smaller and/or less popular states, a voice through this method so that the major populated areas don't have complete control over who becomes president each time. There is no better document and if Aristotle were alive today, he would no doubt approve of the system.

 

[luiza]

Well Morticia ,
If you think that Merica is setting an example currently in anything that is even worthwhile, I am flabbergasted .
What?
Where ?
When?

 

[Moonglow]

Which God are we all following?

 

[sparky]

Aristotle must of had a crystal ball Mr B

~S~

 

[EMH]

The Bible tells us that the greatness of a nation is defined by her character

and empirical evidence suggests that when RELIGION takes over a political party, we get W and Cheney... the LOWEST CHARACTER treasonous pieces of garbage ever elected...

 

[sparky]

Which God are we all following?

~S~

 

[Dr.Destructo]

People keep confusing Democracy of the state with Democracy of an economic system.
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING.

The United States of America is supposed to be a REPUBLIC, NOT a Democracy.
BUT, we have a Democratic economic system.

We were taught this in high school, and obviously it hasn't been taught in public schools for many decades now.
All thanks to those Oligarchy puppeted Democrats that have turned on this country in favor of greed, avarice, and genocide.

Many "old school" Democrats work for the Democratic economic system, NOT a Democratic government.
These Democrats that are in power since they murdered JFK, are the Oligarchy puppeted Democrats that are trying to forcibly turn this country into a full blown Democracy, where THEY RUN EVERYTHING.....which is akin to being Fascist and Communist.

Theres a big difference, and nobody is being taught this anymore.

 

[luiza]

Aristotle must of had a crystal ball Mr B

~S~

I had a year of that ( see video) before I moved from a joint to a single subject first Degree . Greek philosophy is demanding .

Ducking the several contentious issues , let me float a present example :

You are operating in what is effectively an Oligarch model ( America) and two matters arise , which , if given full airing , would guarantee all power and wealth moving away from the present Oligarchs .
And I site Zero Point Energy technology plus communication with Extraterrestrials as the two matters
Question -
What would you do if you were part of the present Oligarchy ?

And that is why there is a modern Deep State ( say post WW 2 ).

And who is to critisise it for wanting the whole cake when they see that the Sheeple are Stupid and Gullible by a huge majority?

Of course mere mortals would deny that either of the two matters quoted are real and therefore relevant .
But I would reply , "Says You . But I know different" .
Of course they are secret from 99% of people, otherwise the Deep State has no cards to play.

 

[MisterBeale]

A load of crap. Existing Oligarchy: Russia. The citizens have the right to vote and do so, however, the head(s) of the Oligarchy, imprison and/or kill popular candidates.
The best current system, which should stand as is: The United States Constitution and its Bill of Rights. It is called a "living document," as Amendments can be added to make necessary changes. The Constitution allows for direct democratic voting for congressional and senatorial candidates in their local areas, although in the case of the senatorial candidates, no state is allowed more than two senators. The president is the exception to the direct democratic voting. The Electoral College gives smaller and/or less popular states, a voice through this method so that the major populated areas don't have complete control over who becomes president each time. There is no better document and if Aristotle were alive today, he would no doubt approve of the system.

Aristotle’s Political Theory (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

Existing Oligarchy: Russia. The citizens have the right to vote and do so, however, the head(s) of the Oligarchy, imprison and/or kill popular candidates.

And that is different than the corrupting of our system how?

Full list of Capitol rioters jailed so far, the sentences they are serving

Around 64 percent of those who have received sentences in relation to the January 6 uprising have been handed jail time.

www.newsweek.com

Yes, a FEMA employee told workers to skip homes with Trump signs, but it wasn’t an agency-wide directive

According to FEMA, the employee was fired for her violation of the agency's principles while surveying Hurricane Milton's damage in Florida.

www.kgw.com

As IRS Targeted Tea Party Groups, It Went After Progressives Too

After three years of congressional hearings and three inspector-general audits, the scandal still ricochets around Capitol Hill.

www.npr.org

IRS Has Long History of Political Dirty Tricks

Think the IRS' targeting of victims for their political views is new? Critics of the IRS--including historians, tax lawyers, civil libertarians and past victims of abuse--say presidents as far back as Nixon, Johnson Kennedy, and FDR have used the Service as a weapon against political enemies."We...

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LISTEN: The Ruling Class’ Revenge Against Julian Assange​

LISTEN: The Ruling Class’ Revenge Against Julian Assange

In this Scheer Post podcast, Pulitzer Prize-winner Chris Hedges talks to journalist Robert Scheer about the WikiLeaks founder’s plight as he languishes in a British prison. “Truthteller” [Art by Mr.Fish] Host: Robert Scheer Producer: Joshua Scheer Introduction: Natasha Hakim

consortiumnews.com

 

[MisterBeale]

I had a year of that ( see video) before I moved from a joint to a single subject first Degree . Greek philosophy is demanding .

Ducking the several contentious issues , let me float a present example :

You are operating in what is effectively an Oligarch model ( America) and two matters arise , which , if given full airing , would guarantee all power and wealth moving away from the present Oligarchs .
And I site Zero Point Energy technology plus communication with Extraterrestrials as the two matters
Question -
What would you do if you were part of the present Oligarchy ?

And that is why there is a modern Deep State ( say post WW 2 ).

And who is to critisise it for wanting the whole cake when they see that the Sheeple are Stupid and Gullible by a huge majority?

Of course mere mortals would deny that either of the two matters quoted are real and therefore relevant .
But I would reply , "Says You . But I know different" .
Of course they are secret from 99% of people, otherwise the Deep State has no cards to play.

You say you disagree. . . and then make an entire post on how America has left the realm of a Polity overseen by an political aristocracy, into an Oligarchy running a democracy.

 

[luiza]

You say you disagree. . . and then make an entire post on how America has left the realm of a Polity overseen by an political aristocracy, into an Oligarchy running a democracy.

You have lost me .
There is no post on this thread where I have registered a Disagree comment .

However , if pushed to assert what I think is happening in America, I would say that it does not fit into any slot on the "Aristotle Chart "
I would start from the point after WW2 and contend that very quickly there were two Governments , one of which we are calling Deep State which is a working group consisting of Traditionalists ( Bankers , the Rothschilde mob etc and key Industrialists ) and Fourth Reich who have extended the Nazi view of national domination to International domination by the "1%" , regardless of nationality and measured only in terms of wealth and power .
Along those lines .

 

[sparky]

What would you do if you were part of the present Oligarchy ?

whatever kept it all in my back pocket 'Lu

i don't see the deep state as any more than those elites in political circles conspiring for nothing more than that which is the simplest of human elements

~S~

 

[Zincwarrior]

TexMex.

 

[playtime]

What makes a nation great?

not

that.

 

[sparky]

Polity

some of you folks know too much...... ~S~

 

[playtime]

and empirical evidence suggests that when RELIGION takes over a political party, we get W and Cheney... the LOWEST CHARACTER treasonous pieces of garbage ever elected...