OK, troofers.

[elvis]

What happened to Barbara Olsen?

 

[eots]

well I get video no longer available but regardless... Noam Chomsky...who gives a fuck what some commie guru has to say...does he have flight or military experience ??.engineering ..physics..intel ????

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[dilloduck]

What happened to Barbara Olsen?

Seriously---if she's still alive I want to see her again.

 

[manu1959]

she is alive and well and living in a small village in the south of france.....

all the "passengers" got to select a new identity and a new place to live with all expenses paid for life......where do you think all the nobid contract money fro halliburton went..........

 

[random3434]

Here's one for ya:


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDshVgRx2Xw&feature=related]YouTube - Dumb Question - Where are the passengers?[/ame]

 

[eots]

`the only thing we can know with complete certainty about 911 without a real investigation is the official story is a lie..a cover up

 

[DiveCon]

here is a video you will NEVER see Eots post
has too many facts in it

[youtube]3Q8uKcVbr9w[/youtube]

 

[eots]

facts ?... it is a story...nothing more

 

[eots]

Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."


Editor's note: For more information on the impact at the Pentagon, see General Stubblebine, Colonel Nelson, Commander Muga, Lt. Col. Kwiatkowski, Lt. Col. Latas, Major Rokke, Capt. Wittenberg, Barbara Honegger, April Gallop, Colonel Bunel, and Steve DeChiaro.


Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"The government conspiracy theory does not hold up to scrutiny. As a professional with over 30 years experience working with gas turbines (jet engines) and fuels - kerosene (jet fuel) does not burn in any open flame hot enough to effect steel - well under 1000 deg F. Also bogus are the explanations regarding why no planes were intercepted. SOP [Standard Operating Procedure] is they are always, always intercepted if they stray off course and/or turn off the transponder like these flights all did. No command decision needed. Has our government ever been untruthful to us?" AE911Truth


Major Jon I. Fox, U.S. Marine Corps – Former Marine Corps fighter pilot, including interceptor pilot. Retired commercial airline pilot, Continental Airlines. Aircraft flown: Boeing 727, McDonnell Douglas DC-10, LearJet. 35-year commercial aviation career.
Statement to this website 6/3/08:

"Recent research proves that explosives were used at the World Trade Center. Flight paths and maneuvers of the aircraft involved at the Pentagon and Shanksville do not match NTSB released flight data recordings. Shouldn't there be a criminal investigation before more lives and trillions of dollars are wasted?"


Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"On hearing the military (NORAD/NEAD) excuses for no intercepts on 9/11/2001, I knew from personal experience that they were lying. I then began re-checking other evidence and found mostly more lies from the "official spokesmen". Jet fuel fires at atmospheric pressure do not get hot enough to weaken steel. Structures do not collapse through themselves in free fall time with only gravity as the powering force." AE911Truth

 

[DiveCon]

facts ?... it is a story...nothing more

yes, facts, you know, those things you ignore for the bullshit you post


things like the woman that was actually on the plane that landed in Cleveland?


then you go and post your C&P bullshit

yeah facts dont matter to you, EVER

 

[manu1959]

Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."


Editor's note: For more information on the impact at the Pentagon, see General Stubblebine, Colonel Nelson, Commander Muga, Lt. Col. Kwiatkowski, Lt. Col. Latas, Major Rokke, Capt. Wittenberg, Barbara Honegger, April Gallop, Colonel Bunel, and Steve DeChiaro.


Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"The government conspiracy theory does not hold up to scrutiny. As a professional with over 30 years experience working with gas turbines (jet engines) and fuels - kerosene (jet fuel) does not burn in any open flame hot enough to effect steel - well under 1000 deg F. Also bogus are the explanations regarding why no planes were intercepted. SOP [Standard Operating Procedure] is they are always, always intercepted if they stray off course and/or turn off the transponder like these flights all did. No command decision needed. Has our government ever been untruthful to us?" AE911Truth


Major Jon I. Fox, U.S. Marine Corps – Former Marine Corps fighter pilot, including interceptor pilot. Retired commercial airline pilot, Continental Airlines. Aircraft flown: Boeing 727, McDonnell Douglas DC-10, LearJet. 35-year commercial aviation career.
Statement to this website 6/3/08:

"Recent research proves that explosives were used at the World Trade Center. Flight paths and maneuvers of the aircraft involved at the Pentagon and Shanksville do not match NTSB released flight data recordings. Shouldn't there be a criminal investigation before more lives and trillions of dollars are wasted?"


Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"On hearing the military (NORAD/NEAD) excuses for no intercepts on 9/11/2001, I knew from personal experience that they were lying. I then began re-checking other evidence and found mostly more lies from the "official spokesmen". Jet fuel fires at atmospheric pressure do not get hot enough to weaken steel. Structures do not collapse through themselves in free fall time with only gravity as the powering force." AE911Truth

so where is the plane and the people.....

 

[elvis]

Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."


Editor's note: For more information on the impact at the Pentagon, see General Stubblebine, Colonel Nelson, Commander Muga, Lt. Col. Kwiatkowski, Lt. Col. Latas, Major Rokke, Capt. Wittenberg, Barbara Honegger, April Gallop, Colonel Bunel, and Steve DeChiaro.


Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"The government conspiracy theory does not hold up to scrutiny. As a professional with over 30 years experience working with gas turbines (jet engines) and fuels - kerosene (jet fuel) does not burn in any open flame hot enough to effect steel - well under 1000 deg F. Also bogus are the explanations regarding why no planes were intercepted. SOP [Standard Operating Procedure] is they are always, always intercepted if they stray off course and/or turn off the transponder like these flights all did. No command decision needed. Has our government ever been untruthful to us?" AE911Truth


Major Jon I. Fox, U.S. Marine Corps – Former Marine Corps fighter pilot, including interceptor pilot. Retired commercial airline pilot, Continental Airlines. Aircraft flown: Boeing 727, McDonnell Douglas DC-10, LearJet. 35-year commercial aviation career.
Statement to this website 6/3/08:

"Recent research proves that explosives were used at the World Trade Center. Flight paths and maneuvers of the aircraft involved at the Pentagon and Shanksville do not match NTSB released flight data recordings. Shouldn't there be a criminal investigation before more lives and trillions of dollars are wasted?"


Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"On hearing the military (NORAD/NEAD) excuses for no intercepts on 9/11/2001, I knew from personal experience that they were lying. I then began re-checking other evidence and found mostly more lies from the "official spokesmen". Jet fuel fires at atmospheric pressure do not get hot enough to weaken steel. Structures do not collapse through themselves in free fall time with only gravity as the powering force." AE911Truth

so where is the plane and the people.....

Area 51

 

[xotoxi]

here is a video you will NEVER see Eots post
has too many facts in it

[youtube]3Q8uKcVbr9w[/youtube]

What I am most troubled by is the fact that, all these years later, Mary McFadden is still sitting in an airport holding her Flight 89 boarding pass.

And what airport is she sitting in?

 

[eots]

one woman's story...that's enough for you,,, not interceptor pilots and NORAD tactical directors
as a rational person who would i give more credibility to... a unknown woman's opinion about one issue or there vast experience and inside knowledge of NORAD directors and fighter pilots ??

 

[DiveCon]

here is a video you will NEVER see Eots post
has too many facts in it

[youtube]3Q8uKcVbr9w[/youtube]

What I am most troubled by is the fact that, all these years later, Mary McFadden is still sitting in an airport holding her Flight 89 boarding pass.

And what airport is she sitting in?

well, i bet a lot of people kept their boarding passes on 9/11
and she might well be a business person that flies a lot and the BBC wanted to interview her at the air port

 

[DiveCon]

one woman's story...that's enough for you,,, not interceptor pilots and NORAD tactical directors
as a rational person who would i give more credibility to... a unknown woman's opinion about one issue or there vast experience and inside knowledge of NORAD directors and fighter pilots ??

except not one of the people you link to have any first hand knowledge of the events that day
NOT ONE

and btw, asshole, there were more than just ONE

 

[eots]

they have direct knowledge of NORAD and flight interception..but your to ignorant to listen

 

[xotoxi]

here is a video you will NEVER see Eots post
has too many facts in it

[youtube]3Q8uKcVbr9w[/youtube]

What I am most troubled by is the fact that, all these years later, Mary McFadden is still sitting in an airport holding her Flight 89 boarding pass.

And what airport is she sitting in?

well, i bet a lot of people kept their boarding passes on 9/11
and she might well be a business person that flies a lot and the BBC wanted to interview her at the air port

You're just grasping at straws.

A business lady holding an 8 year old ticket happens to be passing through an airport where the BBC is filming a documentary???

COME ON!!!

I think there may be a Rogue Element in play...like maybe a producer...that set this all up.

Planted a photocopied ticket in her hands.

Made her wear red, to symbolize impurity.

Filmed the interview in Cincinnati airport instead of Cleveland.

Those Rogue Producers just make my blood boil!!!!

 

[eots]

but these psy-ops work on people like divecon....they spread this shit on toast and eat it for breakfast
that's the real problem

 

[DiveCon]

they have direct knowledge of NORAD and flight interception..but your to ignorant to listen

no, i will listen to them about the day to day operations of NORAD, but they have ZERO info on THAT DAY
thus they dont have the credibility on that day as this woman does