Lots of fail in that post.
"There is suspicion that there is at least one scum in this group:
CaféAuLait
Grandma
Shaitra
Suspicion based on what? Paranoia isn't good enough. Yeah, I'm paranoid too, but we really need evidence.
You know full well and good what it is based on. It has been discussed in a dozen posts already. Ignoring that just continues to make you look more like scum.
I would not that you even posted about that possibility in
"having two scum on mission one certainly would make it more difficult for scum to fail the mission given there were only 3 players in that group. If they both failed it, the players on that mission would have been totally excluded from any further missions and our win would have almost been assured."
Not with 2 more Scum in the pool.
"How that might have played out in mission 2, I am less sure. We only have one confirmed scum there but 2 suspicious players. How would they have coordinated their votes? I have not seen anything to indicate a coordinated effort or a crumb trail that would indicate how they were going to vote. That becomes even less workable if there were more than 2 scum on that team. Of course, as grandma picked the team the other scum might have voted to pass relying on her to fail the mission while they voted to pass.... :\"
Too much WIFOM. Too little looking at all the probabilities.
And you are providing what exactly?
All I see is you bashing others reads (because you are too busy OMGUSing) and not really doing anything to hunt scum.
If you think my reads are wrong and you really are town then provide us with better reads that have better logic. That is something that is townish. Stating mine are too WIFOM (I don't think anyone even remotely understands that term because that my statements are not WIFOM) without going into why others are better options is not townish. That is combative and only serves to distract town from pressing on.
Give us some good solid reads on a scum team grandma
"Of course I was reading Wake as scum and I still hold that to be true until Aye's posting shows otherwise. I don't think that Aye should be going on the mission either.
Possible scum -
1. Grandma
2. Shaitra
3. Josh_B
4. Wolfster/Aye
I get town from Arden, Avatar, and Cafe. Moonglow is kind of a wildcard considering there really is no way of 'reading' moonglow."
Could you elaborate on those reads?
I have. Arden has read town since the beginning because she was one of the few posting actual plans and ideas. Logical plans. Arden has somewhat fallen off the ma lately though and randomly went against her own plan without telling us why. That makes me wonder but does not make her scummier than any of the other players that I have scum reads on. Avatar and Cafe have been actively scum hunting and Cafe has posted a lot of good logic behind her reads. That is very protown. Moon should be obvious.
The scum reads I have plainly laid out. The short of it was Wake's unusual posting right out the gate. It was quite fishy as well as all the discussion about game setup and playing the noob. Wake's play style is still an enigma but he his posts gave me some strong scum vibes. Cafe has placed a good argument up for Josh and Shai, it speaks for itself. I happen to agree with much of it and expanded on the outcomes of the 2 missions that we have hard data on. Let me expand on you though as no one else seems to be taking up this mantle:
Your reads have mostly been outright declarations without any logic or reasoning behind them. A good way for scum to hide and look like they are hunting without actually hunting.
Posts: 92, 393, 599, 604, 611 all are blanket read lists without a single reason why.
Then you have been OMGUS ALL over the place (after claiming you rarely do such a thing in post 603):
Posts: 184, 245 OMGUS Avatar
Post: 590 OMGUS Cafe
Post: 641 OMGUS Wolf
Almost all your posts claiming someone is scum have come after the player put you on their scum list. Most of your activity came after your failed mission put you on many players scum lists. All reactionary play. That reads scummy to me - only 'scum hunting' when there is suspicion on you for being scum. Pretty much your entire scum list is straight up OMGUS. When pressed by Cafe as to your reasoning you have essentially evaded. Post 613 you place Avi "high on your list" without any reason at all. The only reason that I have seen you give anywhere in this thread so far is Avatar placed you on his scum list.
Then post 604 is a town list without any reasoning why that I can tell.
Post 642 finally gives some sort of reasoning for one of your possible scum reads (Aye, though you seem to have failed to include Aye on any actual scum read list) that is an entire sentence long. 1 sentence. Then you hard read scum for Shaitra based off a single post - the post that advocates for an idea that Arden originally put fourth. Might I remind you that is the same Arden that you stated LEANED TOWN in post 604.
Why is it hard scum for Shaitra and yet you lean town for Arden earlier in the thread?
Basically Grandma, the short of it is that I don't think of you as the OMGUS and inconsistent player that you are being in this game. I think that is a clear scum case for you.
