Obesity is NOT beautiful! :(

[ChrisL]

I've typed many reports about Lap band procedure failures because the people go back to eating an unhealthy extraordinary amount of food, mostly junk food.

That is another problem, the amount of our portions is . . . . unbelievable. I go to a restaurant and get a plate of food sometimes and I wonder how ANYONE could eat all of that food in one sitting!!! Yuck! It really makes me lose my appetite.

Lapband won't solve obesity if the reason why the person got obese is not addressed. Those root causes are usually emotional and they have to be healed before a food addict can recover. If those root issues are dealt with many times a food addict won't need surgery they can stick with a program of correct eating and exercise,

Look, I know what you are trying to do here, but the bottom line is that some people really ARE just lazy and do not want to change their bad habits.

 

[ChrisL]

Obesity, in most instances, is completely preventable with just exercise and watching your diet.

So is smoking and alcoholism, just don't smoke or drink. But there are psychological reasons along with why people get addicted to unhealthy habits, and addressing those helps people recover from it.

If you are concerned about the health issue looking at some root causes emotionally will help those who do suffer from it recover and be able to form good health habits. This is how treatment works people do not get fat and lazy because they want to, just like hoarders don't become unsanitary and live in dangerous waste because they want to. There is an underlying issue going on. That is what has to be addressed if you truly have an interest in helping those stuck in obesity.

With some people that might be the case. With some others, they just don't care, Drifter. That is a fact.

That's true with any addiction.

America: Too fat to fight (Opinion) - CNN.com

Of the 195,000 young men and women who signed up to fight for our country, only 72,000 qualified. Some didn't make the cut because they had a criminal background, or a lack of education, or too many tattoos. But a full 10% didn't qualify because they were overweight.

Before you accuse me of sensationalizing, it's that 10% figure that worries General Batschelet the most.

"The obesity issue is the most troubling because the trend is going in the wrong direction," he said. "We think by 2020 it could be as high as 50%, which mean only 2 in 10 would qualify to join the Army." He paused. "It's a sad testament to who we are as a society right now."

The problem is so worrisome for the Army that recruiters have become fitness coaches, like the trainers on the NBC show, "The Biggest Loser."

Yes, your tax dollars pay for Army recruiters to play Dolvett Quince or Jillian Michaels to whip could-be recruits into shape with the hope they can diet and exercise their way to become real recruits. If they lose enough weight, they're sent to boot camp. Some make it; many don't. But, General Batschelet told me the Army must try.

"We are the premier leader on personal development in the world," he told me. "We want to see you grow and become a leader. That is a great strength in our Army."

We've already agreed that obesity is a problem.

Well, it seems as if some are trying to minimize this problem. It is a HUGE problem and expected to get worse.

 

[Michelle420]

I've typed many reports about Lap band procedure failures because the people go back to eating an unhealthy extraordinary amount of food, mostly junk food.

That is another problem, the amount of our portions is . . . . unbelievable. I go to a restaurant and get a plate of food sometimes and I wonder how ANYONE could eat all of that food in one sitting!!! Yuck! It really makes me lose my appetite.

Lapband won't solve obesity if the reason why the person got obese is not addressed. Those root causes are usually emotional and they have to be healed before a food addict can recover. If those root issues are dealt with many times a food addict won't need surgery they can stick with a program of correct eating and exercise,

Look, I know what you are trying to do here, but the bottom line is that some people really ARE just lazy and do not want to change their bad habits.

We can agree to disagree. I see it the same as any addiction there are many drug addicts that won't quit or alcoholics that wont stop drinking or smoker's who even after cancer treatment still smoke. The common theme is they don't want to change. But there is in my opinion a root emotional cause to each and every addiction, once that is addressed usually a person wants to change and does. Those who do not are not capable of being honest with themselves about the underlying problem.

 

[ChrisL]

Obesity is mainly due to our inactivity and our terrible quality of food that we consume. These things can be easily changed or at least moderated to some degree, especially when it comes to the kids! No way should these children be suffering from obesity problems. Don't tell me that it is because of something besides pure lack of physical activity and laziness in many instances!

 

[ChrisL]

I've typed many reports about Lap band procedure failures because the people go back to eating an unhealthy extraordinary amount of food, mostly junk food.

That is another problem, the amount of our portions is . . . . unbelievable. I go to a restaurant and get a plate of food sometimes and I wonder how ANYONE could eat all of that food in one sitting!!! Yuck! It really makes me lose my appetite.

Lapband won't solve obesity if the reason why the person got obese is not addressed. Those root causes are usually emotional and they have to be healed before a food addict can recover. If those root issues are dealt with many times a food addict won't need surgery they can stick with a program of correct eating and exercise,

Look, I know what you are trying to do here, but the bottom line is that some people really ARE just lazy and do not want to change their bad habits.

We can agree to disagree. I see it the same as any addiction there are many drug addicts that won't quit or alcoholics that wont stop drinking or smoker's who even after cancer treatment still smoke. The common theme is they don't want to change. But there is in my opinion a root emotional cause to each and every addiction, once that is addressed usually a person wants to change and does. Those who do not are not capable of being honest with themselves about the underlying problem.

What about children who are suffering from obesity related diseases? Do you excuse the parents as having "problems" when they do this to their children?

 

[Michelle420]

I've typed many reports about Lap band procedure failures because the people go back to eating an unhealthy extraordinary amount of food, mostly junk food.

That is another problem, the amount of our portions is . . . . unbelievable. I go to a restaurant and get a plate of food sometimes and I wonder how ANYONE could eat all of that food in one sitting!!! Yuck! It really makes me lose my appetite.

Lapband won't solve obesity if the reason why the person got obese is not addressed. Those root causes are usually emotional and they have to be healed before a food addict can recover. If those root issues are dealt with many times a food addict won't need surgery they can stick with a program of correct eating and exercise,

Look, I know what you are trying to do here, but the bottom line is that some people really ARE just lazy and do not want to change their bad habits.

We can agree to disagree. I see it the same as any addiction there are many drug addicts that won't quit or alcoholics that wont stop drinking or smoker's who even after cancer treatment still smoke. The common theme is they don't want to change. But there is in my opinion a root emotional cause to each and every addiction, once that is addressed usually a person wants to change and does. Those who do not are not capable of being honest with themselves about the underlying problem.

What about children who are suffering from obesity related diseases? Do you excuse the parents as having "problems" when they do this to their children?

What about children of alcoholics or drug addicts? It's a sad world out there that children suffer from parents who have addictions and bad habits, but if we care about each other and really want to help overcome it, then addressing reasons why it happens helps those parents reform and recover and then they can work to undo some damage with their children.

 

[ChrisL]

How America Got So Fat (And So Sick)

Renowned preventive cardiologist Arthur Agatston, MD, has devoted decades to helping Americans improve their health by trimming their waistlines and exercising regularly. His book, The South Beach Wake-Up Call, he warns that we're raising a generation that could be the first in modern history with shorter life spans than their parents'. Here, his urgent call to action.

America is fatter and sicker than ever. We compensate by taking diet pills and going on fad diets. But the fact is that our fast-food, sedentary lifestyle is trumping the advances in medical science that have been responsible for at least four decades of decreasing death rates from heart disease. The hard truth is that whatever shape health care reform ultimately takes—one payer, multiple payer, or a combination of coverages—it won't matter, because we as a nation won't be able to pay for it. If we don't make the positive lifestyle changes needed to halt and reverse the obesity epidemic now—today—our health care system will be bankrupted by the sheer numbers of sick Americans.

 

[OnePercenter]

Obesity is mainly due to our inactivity and our terrible quality of food that we consume. These things can be easily changed or at least moderated to some degree, especially when it comes to the kids! No way should these children be suffering from obesity problems. Don't tell me that it is because of something besides pure lack of physical activity and laziness in many instances!

It also has to do with wage disparity. Affording healthy food, and the time to prepare it is a problem. When one has to work two or more jobs it doesn't leave enough time to cook, so drive thru's become the norm.

 

[ChrisL]

The New Normal
The average American is 23 pounds heavier than his or her ideal body weight. If we equate "normal" with average, it's not much of a stretch to say it's normal to be fat.


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"For children and for many adults who are overweight, they are starting to perceive themselves as the new normal," says obesity expert Robert F. Kushner, MD, MS. Overweight people may dismiss their weight, he tells WebMD, because they feel "everyone else looks exactly the same." Kushner is a professor at Northwestern University's Feinberg School of Medicine and clinical director of the Northwestern Comprehensive Center on Obesity.


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"It's quite clear that people are changing their idea of what an acceptable body size is," says Nicholas Christakis, MD, PhD, of Harvard Medical School. As the average body weight goes up, there's more acceptance of heavier body types. This, in turn, clears the path for even more people to put on weight, says Christakis, who is the co-author of Connected: The Surprising Power of Our Social Networks and How They Change Lives.


Are Americans Really Getting Fatter?
The rate of obesity has climbed dramatically in the past 20 years: A third of adults are obese today, compared to 23% in the late 1980s. But this trend may have reached a plateau. According to a new study in the Journal of the American Medical Association, the obesity rate has not changed significantly in the past few years.

That's no reason to become complacent, Kushner says. "The prevalence of obesity is leveling off, but it's leveling off at flood stage. So we need to turn that around."

 

[ChrisL]

I've typed many reports about Lap band procedure failures because the people go back to eating an unhealthy extraordinary amount of food, mostly junk food.

That is another problem, the amount of our portions is . . . . unbelievable. I go to a restaurant and get a plate of food sometimes and I wonder how ANYONE could eat all of that food in one sitting!!! Yuck! It really makes me lose my appetite.

Lapband won't solve obesity if the reason why the person got obese is not addressed. Those root causes are usually emotional and they have to be healed before a food addict can recover. If those root issues are dealt with many times a food addict won't need surgery they can stick with a program of correct eating and exercise,

Look, I know what you are trying to do here, but the bottom line is that some people really ARE just lazy and do not want to change their bad habits.

We can agree to disagree. I see it the same as any addiction there are many drug addicts that won't quit or alcoholics that wont stop drinking or smoker's who even after cancer treatment still smoke. The common theme is they don't want to change. But there is in my opinion a root emotional cause to each and every addiction, once that is addressed usually a person wants to change and does. Those who do not are not capable of being honest with themselves about the underlying problem.

What about children who are suffering from obesity related diseases? Do you excuse the parents as having "problems" when they do this to their children?

What about children of alcoholics or drug addicts? It's a sad world out there that children suffer from parents who have addictions and bad habits, but if we care about each other and really want to help overcome it, then addressing reasons why it happens helps those parents reform and recover and then they can work to undo some damage with their children.

The REAL problem is that a lot of parents will plop their kids down in front of the television or the computer with a bag of chips or McDonald's french fries.

"There kid, now don't bother me." Just another example of our laziness.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

What about children who are suffering from obesity related diseases? Do you excuse the parents as having "problems" when they do this to their children?

Damn straight.
Nothing worse than seeing a 5 year old kid walking around carring a large coke or 16 oz. plastic bottle of soda. What kind of IDIOT gives a 40 pound child a drink that is the equivalent of 9 teaspoons of sugar!!
What kind of IDIOT feeds a child a happy meal (with the coke) that has 800 calories, 28 grams of fat, 1,030 mg of sodium, and with the small coke - a total of 12 teaspoons of sugar.
Oh...but it is quick.

 

[Michelle420]

Lapband won't solve obesity if the reason why the person got obese is not addressed. Those root causes are usually emotional and they have to be healed before a food addict can recover. If those root issues are dealt with many times a food addict won't need surgery they can stick with a program of correct eating and exercise,

Look, I know what you are trying to do here, but the bottom line is that some people really ARE just lazy and do not want to change their bad habits.

We can agree to disagree. I see it the same as any addiction there are many drug addicts that won't quit or alcoholics that wont stop drinking or smoker's who even after cancer treatment still smoke. The common theme is they don't want to change. But there is in my opinion a root emotional cause to each and every addiction, once that is addressed usually a person wants to change and does. Those who do not are not capable of being honest with themselves about the underlying problem.

What about children who are suffering from obesity related diseases? Do you excuse the parents as having "problems" when they do this to their children?

What about children of alcoholics or drug addicts? It's a sad world out there that children suffer from parents who have addictions and bad habits, but if we care about each other and really want to help overcome it, then addressing reasons why it happens helps those parents reform and recover and then they can work to undo some damage with their children.

The REAL problem is that a lot of parents will plop their kids down in front of the television or the computer with a bag of chips or McDonald's french fries.

And the reasons for why they do that are what needs to be addressed, as someone just pointed out maybe they work 2 jobs, maybe there are other things stressful going on, maybe they did not learn the skills they needed to deal with life. If you want to help people one way is to look at underlying causes and find healthy ways for people to cope, this will lead to healthier choices in life.

At any rate good luck with your obesity awareness thread, I've given my opinion on it and I understand your opinion.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Look, I know what you are trying to do here, but the bottom line is that some people really ARE just lazy and do not want to change their bad habits.

We can agree to disagree. I see it the same as any addiction there are many drug addicts that won't quit or alcoholics that wont stop drinking or smoker's who even after cancer treatment still smoke. The common theme is they don't want to change. But there is in my opinion a root emotional cause to each and every addiction, once that is addressed usually a person wants to change and does. Those who do not are not capable of being honest with themselves about the underlying problem.

What about children who are suffering from obesity related diseases? Do you excuse the parents as having "problems" when they do this to their children?

What about children of alcoholics or drug addicts? It's a sad world out there that children suffer from parents who have addictions and bad habits, but if we care about each other and really want to help overcome it, then addressing reasons why it happens helps those parents reform and recover and then they can work to undo some damage with their children.

The REAL problem is that a lot of parents will plop their kids down in front of the television or the computer with a bag of chips or McDonald's french fries.

And the reasons for why they do that are what needs to be addressed, as someone just pointed out maybe they work 2 jobs, maybe there are other things stressful going on, maybe they did not learn the skills they needed to deal with life. If you want to help people one way is to look at underlying causes and find healthy ways for people to cope, this will lead to healthier choices in life.

At any rate good luck with your obesity awareness thread, I've given my opinion on it and I understand your opinion.

Or maybe they don't give a rat's ass and too lazy to prepare a decent meal.
How about they care more for something easy and quick to give the kids so they can park their ass in front of the TV for 6 hours...and no dishes!!
I call bullshit. There isn't a single person above the age of 6 in America that doesn't well know that cheeseburgers/fries and soda pop is very bad for you...so hey...let's feed it to the kids 2-3 times a week!!
And buy them an xbox so they leave us alone.

 

[TrinityPower]

Please don't act like the parents are doing this to the kids and they are so above it. Ever watch My 600 Pound Life? If not, tune it in. In every one of the lives of those people on the show whom their family is so concerned is someone or someones who are about 10 pounds behind them. It isn't like you see this gigantic kids and a skinny parent. Rarely do I see a thin parent who has a morbidly obese child whether that child is growing up or already an adult. Kids often mirror their parents in activity. As I said way back toward the start of this thread in these days both parents work most of the time if there are two parents in the home and much food prep is prepared dinners because of various reasons More and more people are living in apartments rather than houses with yards and recreational activities are low with technology being what it is. People can take pride in the shape and size and celebrate their individuality but don't put down others who do the best they can or are happy doing what they do. If they are not sucking the government teat from their condition then great...not my business

 

[ChrisL]

We can agree to disagree. I see it the same as any addiction there are many drug addicts that won't quit or alcoholics that wont stop drinking or smoker's who even after cancer treatment still smoke. The common theme is they don't want to change. But there is in my opinion a root emotional cause to each and every addiction, once that is addressed usually a person wants to change and does. Those who do not are not capable of being honest with themselves about the underlying problem.

What about children who are suffering from obesity related diseases? Do you excuse the parents as having "problems" when they do this to their children?

What about children of alcoholics or drug addicts? It's a sad world out there that children suffer from parents who have addictions and bad habits, but if we care about each other and really want to help overcome it, then addressing reasons why it happens helps those parents reform and recover and then they can work to undo some damage with their children.

The REAL problem is that a lot of parents will plop their kids down in front of the television or the computer with a bag of chips or McDonald's french fries.

And the reasons for why they do that are what needs to be addressed, as someone just pointed out maybe they work 2 jobs, maybe there are other things stressful going on, maybe they did not learn the skills they needed to deal with life. If you want to help people one way is to look at underlying causes and find healthy ways for people to cope, this will lead to healthier choices in life.

At any rate good luck with your obesity awareness thread, I've given my opinion on it and I understand your opinion.

Or maybe they don't give a rat's ass and too lazy to prepare a decent meal.
How about they care more for something easy and quick to give the kids so they can park their ass in front of the TV for 6 hours...and no dishes!!
I call bullshit. There isn't a single person above the age of 6 in America that doesn't well know that cheeseburgers/fries and soda pop is very bad for you...so hey...let's feed it to the kids 2-3 times a week!!
And buy them an xbox so they leave us alone.

We have an "instant gratification" type of society, and there are plenty of people who do not want to have to work hard to accomplish something, even if they know it's a worthwhile goal.

 

[ChrisL]

Obesity and Fast Food

Fast food and childhood obesity
Fast foods affect children and youth often worse than adults. This is because most of the fast foods are targeted towards children and there is a sustained pattern of eating fast foods and eating out.

Children with a sustained excess energy imbalance intake of approximately 2% result in the development of obesity over time.

A 2% imbalance could mean an excess of only about 30 kilocalories per day. This corresponds to two-thirds of a chocolate cookie, fewer than two French fries or one-fourth of a can of soda.

Eating out is another major contributor to childhood obesity. Studies show that calorie content of out-of-home meals that children consumed was 55% higher than that of in-home meals.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

If the kids are fat the parents are probably fat also. Laziness and poor eating habits are learned behaviors just like everything else.

 

[ChrisL]

Please don't act like the parents are doing this to the kids and they are so above it. Ever watch My 600 Pound Life? If not, tune it in. In every one of the lives of those people on the show whom their family is so concerned is someone or someones who are about 10 pounds behind them. It isn't like you see this gigantic kids and a skinny parent. Rarely do I see a thin parent who has a morbidly obese child whether that child is growing up or already an adult. Kids often mirror their parents in activity. As I said way back toward the start of this thread in these days both parents work most of the time if there are two parents in the home and much food prep is prepared dinners because of various reasons More and more people are living in apartments rather than houses with yards and recreational activities are low with technology being what it is. People can take pride in the shape and size and celebrate their individuality but don't put down others who do the best they can or are happy doing what they do. If they are not sucking the government teat from their condition then great...not my business

Did someone claim that the parents of these children were thin and healthy? I don't think so. I am saying that the poor eating habits are passed on from the parents. After all, it is the parents who have to buy and prepare the food for the children.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

We have an "instant gratification" type of society, and there are plenty of people who do not want to have to work hard to accomplish something, even if they know it's a worthwhile goal.

Sad isn't it?
I know exactly what you mean.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I will say that MOST OF THE TIME fat girls are sweet and nice. Have more to prove..

That's not true at all. Fat girls are the bitchiest and most possessive females. They will beat the shit out of you if you look at a thin girl. Lol.

Do you smoke?