Obama's Nuclear Policy: The World Reacts

[rightwinger]

As long as we have enough nuclear warheads to blanket any nation that would consider starting a massive conventional war, we're good. Anything beyond that is wastefully excessive.

Once you eliminate MAD, your need for world extermination diminishes

And the opportunity for world domination increases for those inclined towards destroying the first world.

Were you a hippy during the '60s? Were you hanging out with Ayers when he told the other kids to 'go home and kill their parents'?

You have me confused with Ronald Reagan. He is the one who advocated complete ellimination of nuclear weapons.

Personally, I like to keep a few in my back pocket just in case

 

[Political Junky]

Todays republicans are posturing against it. Reagan would be disappointed in republicans today, as he favored a nuclear free world.

 

[Dr Grump]

And the opportunity for world domination increases for those inclined towards destroying the first world.

Were you a hippy during the '60s? Were you hanging out with Ayers when he told the other kids to 'go home and kill their parents'?

Don't worry CG, you will still have enough nukes to destroy the world a couple of times over...

 

[Darkwind]

You can hear the laughter from Iran, Russia and China as the Rube in Chief dismantles our defenses

I beleive that the sound you are hearing is the production of WMD going into high gear from places like China, Russia, Phrance, India, Pokestan, Iran, and of course, Korea.

Everyone is rubbing their hands together.

At last, the Americans elected a fucking idiot and we can now draw close to even with them.

 

[Dr Grump]

You can hear the laughter from Iran, Russia and China as the Rube in Chief dismantles our defenses

I beleive that the sound you are hearing is the production of WMD going into high gear from places like China, Russia, Phrance, India, Pokestan, Iran, and of course, Korea.

Everyone is rubbing their hands together.

At last, the Americans elected a fucking idiot and we can now draw close to even with them.

Paranoid whackjob....

 

[Avatar4321]

CHINA
China applauded Obama's move, reports Yang Yang in Xinhua. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu noted the "new expressions" in this review, and added that it was vital for Obama to "make drastic reductions in its nuclear weapon arsenal in an irreversible way and further lessen the role of nuclear weapons for its national security." China has already pledged to keep its nuclear arsenal "at the lowest level needed for national security.""China says U.S. nuke weapons reductions important for int'l disarmament"

I think the bold part says it all. The Chinese have no intention of disarming. Why should they?

 

[LuckyDan]

"The United States is declaring that we will not use or threaten to use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear weapons states that are party to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and in compliance with their nuclear nonproliferation obligations." Obama, April 6
Statement by President Barack Obama on the Release of Nuclear Posture Review | The White House

"We can now expect an innovative surge in global production of chemical and bioweapons--which have effectively just become a cheaper way to attack the U.S. (and its allies). But there's no reason to expect a reversal in the spread of nukes.

"The Administration has allowed itself various outs, with Gates noting on Tuesday that the U.S. reserves "the right" to adjust this policy as might be "warranted by the evolution and proliferation of biological weapons." And there is debate over how much on the ground will really change. But the direction of U.S. policy is clear. Obama is introducing into global affairs a growing measure of wild uncertainty over what will replace the folding U.S. security umbrella. If anything, this will fuel a rush across the board for nuclear weapons. In particular, it will be read by malign regimes not as an inducement to disarm, but as an invitation to expand their ambitions, reach and arsenals. Most of them are not such fools as to let that opportunity go to waste." Claudia Rosset, Forbes.com, April
Preemptive Disarmament - Forbes.com

What problem is this solving again?

 

[Avatar4321]

Are you afraid of an invasion Frankie?

Do you have so little faith in the strongest military force in the history of mankind? Are the nasty Iranians coming to get you Frankie?

I just don't feel like dying in a foreign country because the Archduke of Austria was assassinated.

I don't feel like dying in Iraq because someones daddy, who was advised by Cheney by the way, did not finish the job.

Are you dying in Iraq? You really having an issue with it?

 

[Avatar4321]

You can hear the laughter from Iran, Russia and China as the Rube in Chief dismantles our defenses

I beleive that the sound you are hearing is the production of WMD going into high gear from places like China, Russia, Phrance, India, Pokestan, Iran, and of course, Korea.

Everyone is rubbing their hands together.

At last, the Americans elected a fucking idiot and we can now draw close to even with them.

Paranoid whackjob....

Why is it paranoid to recognize human nature?

 

[Dr Grump]

What problem is this solving again?

What problem is it creating again?

 

[boedicca]

Russia celebrated the treaty by helping Kyrgyzstan throw a regime change party.

 

[LuckyDan]

Russia celebrated the treaty by helping Kyrgyzstan throw a regime change party.

I ran across Sarkozy's comment from last summer: "We live in the real world, not a virtual one."

 

[LuckyDan]

What problem is this solving again?

What problem is it creating again?

A fair question. I take it you didn't read my quote from Forbes, but no matter.

If BO is saying he won't use nukes on non-nuke countries, but he might change his mind later if they gas us or our allies (and who exactly they may be seems also to be under review at the WH) what has he really accomplished?

What's new here? Aside from a deal with a former KGB thug?

 

[eagleseven]

This is supposed to "make them love us" or something.

Well, at least we're providing the comic relief...

 

[Meister]

As nice as it is to get rid of these things, you only need a few to destroy or severely harm the world

With still having over 1500 (1550?) we should have no problem protecting ourselves or destroying the whole world.

 

[Meister]

I don't feel like reading idiotic posts like the one above but I did so anyway.

Yeah, it doesn't seem like Dutch brings much to the table

 

[ABikerSailor]

Why is the GOP now turning on the dream of their greatest "hero" Reagan?

I guess it's because the GOP has now been taken over by the tea party.

 

[geauxtohell]

Obama's nuclear policy: The world reacts - The Week

The president's efforts to scale back the world's nuclear arms ambitions continued today as he signed a new nuclear arms deal with the Russian President Dmitry Medvedev. The Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START), which Obama called a "milestone for U.S.-Russia relations," will slash both countries' nuclear arsenals by a third, pending approval by the U.S. Senate. American commentators were split over Obama's new, less bellicose nuclear policy — including his pledge not to use nukes against non-nuclear states that have signed the Non-Proliferation Agreement — and worldwide reaction was just as divided. Here's a brief round-up:

IRAN
The U.S. president is a "cowboy," said Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, quoted in the Tehran Times, comparing Obama to George W. Bush. "If Obama intends to follow in Bush’s footsteps, the [global] nations’ response will be the same crushing response they gave to Bush," he said, adding that the President was a "novice" whose policies were dictated by "Zionists."
"Ahmadinejad warns Obama not to follow Bush’s path"

CHINA
China applauded Obama's move, reports Yang Yang in Xinhua. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu noted the "new expressions" in this review, and added that it was vital for Obama to "make drastic reductions in its nuclear weapon arsenal in an irreversible way and further lessen the role of nuclear weapons for its national security." China has already pledged to keep its nuclear arsenal "at the lowest level needed for national security."
"China says U.S. nuke weapons reductions important for int'l disarmament"

UNITED KINGDOM
Obama's move doesn't go far enough, says an editorial in The Guardian. The assurance that the U.S. won't attack non-nuclear states with atomic weapons is "hedged with caveats." Obama's Nobel Prize win came in part because of his stated ambition to create a nuclear-free world. "That reflection has been dimmed by the many detailed concessions" to the U.S. military in this review.
"U.S. nuclear review: Poor posture"

RUSSIA
"Obama's new arms control policy is a clear step in the right direction," says Andrei Fedyashin in RIA Novosti. The "courageous new provisions" in his policy review are evidence that the U.S. president has the "guts" to take on Republican opposition over national security. Critics who say it doesn't go far enough should consider that such "nuclear radicalism" would almost certainly doom START in the U.S. Senate. At very least, this move makes the nuclear button "slightly harder to reach."
"The evolution of Barack Obama's nuclear policy"

PAKISTAN
Both Obama's nuclear policy and START are "more cosmetic than anything else," says Shireen M Mazari in The Nation. This deal will leave the U.S. and Russia "way ahead of the rest of the world in terms of nuclear weapons." Not only that, but the U.S. continues to allow India and Israel to develop nuclear technology, thus "undermining the Non-Proliferation Treaty." Does Obama "really regard the rest of the world as downright foolish?"

A smart play by Obama that will hopefully allow us to work with Russia to start squeezing Iran. You would think that it would go without saying that we wouldn't use Nukes at first provocation. However, after eight years of the Cowboy In Chief, it now has to be an official statement.

The protests by the Cons are utterly lame on this. I was listening to our local conservative talker, a classic Bush apologist, do her best to whine about this. Of course, she is a dim bulb so it came out as mush.

Of course, after eight years of a dismal national security record, you'd expect the party of "national security" to grasp at straws.

 

[geauxtohell]

You can hear the laughter from Iran, Russia and China as the Rube in Chief dismantles our defenses

Yeah! Just like Reagan did!

That commie bastard!

 

[Meister]

Obama's nuclear policy: The world reacts - The Week

The president's efforts to scale back the world's nuclear arms ambitions continued today as he signed a new nuclear arms deal with the Russian President Dmitry Medvedev. The Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START), which Obama called a "milestone for U.S.-Russia relations," will slash both countries' nuclear arsenals by a third, pending approval by the U.S. Senate. American commentators were split over Obama's new, less bellicose nuclear policy — including his pledge not to use nukes against non-nuclear states that have signed the Non-Proliferation Agreement — and worldwide reaction was just as divided. Here's a brief round-up:

IRAN
The U.S. president is a "cowboy," said Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, quoted in the Tehran Times, comparing Obama to George W. Bush. "If Obama intends to follow in Bush’s footsteps, the [global] nations’ response will be the same crushing response they gave to Bush," he said, adding that the President was a "novice" whose policies were dictated by "Zionists."
"Ahmadinejad warns Obama not to follow Bush’s path"

CHINA
China applauded Obama's move, reports Yang Yang in Xinhua. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu noted the "new expressions" in this review, and added that it was vital for Obama to "make drastic reductions in its nuclear weapon arsenal in an irreversible way and further lessen the role of nuclear weapons for its national security." China has already pledged to keep its nuclear arsenal "at the lowest level needed for national security."
"China says U.S. nuke weapons reductions important for int'l disarmament"

UNITED KINGDOM
Obama's move doesn't go far enough, says an editorial in The Guardian. The assurance that the U.S. won't attack non-nuclear states with atomic weapons is "hedged with caveats." Obama's Nobel Prize win came in part because of his stated ambition to create a nuclear-free world. "That reflection has been dimmed by the many detailed concessions" to the U.S. military in this review.
"U.S. nuclear review: Poor posture"

RUSSIA
"Obama's new arms control policy is a clear step in the right direction," says Andrei Fedyashin in RIA Novosti. The "courageous new provisions" in his policy review are evidence that the U.S. president has the "guts" to take on Republican opposition over national security. Critics who say it doesn't go far enough should consider that such "nuclear radicalism" would almost certainly doom START in the U.S. Senate. At very least, this move makes the nuclear button "slightly harder to reach."
"The evolution of Barack Obama's nuclear policy"

PAKISTAN
Both Obama's nuclear policy and START are "more cosmetic than anything else," says Shireen M Mazari in The Nation. This deal will leave the U.S. and Russia "way ahead of the rest of the world in terms of nuclear weapons." Not only that, but the U.S. continues to allow India and Israel to develop nuclear technology, thus "undermining the Non-Proliferation Treaty." Does Obama "really regard the rest of the world as downright foolish?"

A smart play by Obama that will hopefully allow us to work with Russia to start squeezing Iran. You would think that it would go without saying that we wouldn't use Nukes at first provocation. However, after eight years of the Cowboy In Chief, it now has to be an official statement.

The protests by the Cons are utterly lame on this. I was listening to our local conservative talker, a classic Bush apologist, do her best to whine about this. Of course, she is a dim bulb so it came out as mush.

Of course, after eight years of a dismal national security record, you'd expect the party of "national security" to grasp at straws.

Put it into perspective, Russia isn't going to rock the boat with Iran too much. They may play with the US with sactions already in place, but not far beyond that. China won't be on board, so it's not going to hurt Iran with all of this posturing.