Obamacare applications by state for 2025

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Well would you look at that...?

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Yes, blue States rely more heavily on Medicaid. 13 Million in California alone.

The Obamacare marketplace has about 20 Million total.
 
Well would you look at that...?

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Blue state residents have higher incomes and aren’t eligible.

And Blue states expanded Medicaid under the ACA or already have programs that provide access to affordable healthcare for low-income families.

Most red states failed to expand Medicaid or have no state healthcare program, hence red state residents’ overwhelming reliance on the ACA.

And as usual Trump voters vote against their own interests.
 
As I will say until my last breath, liberals are the ones who create government handout programs, so they should shut the fuck up, when people use them.
 
Blue state residents have higher incomes and aren’t eligible.

And Blue states expanded Medicaid under the ACA or already have programs that provide access to affordable healthcare for low-income families.

Most red states failed to expand Medicaid or have no state healthcare program, hence red state residents’ overwhelming reliance on the ACA.

And as usual Trump voters vote against their own interests.

They know people like you are eager to pay their bills, so enjoy.
 
Blue state residents have higher incomes and aren’t eligible.
And yet they have the highest percentages of Medicaid recipients. 1/3 of Californians are on Medicaid or CHIPS.

Sounds like income inequality is more of a "blue state" thing..
And Blue states expanded Medicaid under the ACA or already have programs that provide access to affordable healthcare for low-income families.

Most red states failed to expand Medicaid or have no state healthcare program, hence red state residents’ overwhelming reliance on the ACA.
Since the Federal Gov't pays 70% of Medicaid, that would mean red States are subsidizing blue States for health care costs.
And as usual Trump voters vote against their own interests.
Yeah, that's the narrative anyway...
 
Yes, yes, the left thinks Obama-care is so sexy. But they also think assassinating an insurance CEOs is even sexier. Remind me, who does the Obama-care claims go though?
 
Yeah, they get told to hate things, but will think they're the only ones getting something from the government.
Well thanks to Obamacare, for many people it's the only option they have to get health insurance now.

The blue states are getting an equal or greater Federal subsidy, they have much higher percentages of their populations that are Medicaid recipients.
 
Well thanks to Obamacare, for many people it's the only option they have to get health insurance now.

The blue states are getting an equal or greater Federal subsidy, they have much higher percentages of their populations that are Medicaid recipients.

Well, I think the point is that people want and need healthcare, and because of the way the rich are getting richer, the poor getting poorer and the healthcare industry realizing just how much they can milk everyone, people can't afford healthcare.

I'm in favor of some kind of universal healthcare, paid for while working and people are able to receive when they're down and out.
 
Well, I think the point is that people want and need healthcare, and because of the way the rich are getting richer, the poor getting poorer and the healthcare industry realizing just how much they can milk everyone, people can't afford healthcare.
My problem with Obamacare is that it didn't address the cost of health care in any effective way. It just handed out a huge part of GDP to insurance companies, and relies on them to deal with the cost.

Which they do, by rationing care.

I had a good insurance plan that was an 80/20 plan with a small co-pay and low deductible and it cost $325/month.

After Obamacare, the premium jumped to $1000 and had a $6000 deductible. I got a subsidy on the premium, but I still couldn't afford to use the insurance.
I'm in favor of some kind of universal healthcare, paid for while working and people are able to receive when they're down and out.
We have that with Medicare and Medicaid. Obamacare was supposed to bridge the gap between employer sponsored plans and the individual market- which it did, but it wrecked the small business group market in the process.

If we want to make the Gov't cover everything and tax for it, then Gov't becomes the only investor, and you lose innovation. Most of the blockbuster drugs and a lot of the technology is developed right here by private companies. That takes a lot of capital, and I am concerned that the Gov't will be reluctant to spend more money on research and development.
 
My problem with Obamacare is that it didn't address the cost of health care in any effective way. It just handed out a huge part of GDP to insurance companies, and relies on them to deal with the cost.

Which they do, by rationing care.

I had a good insurance plan that was an 80/20 plan with a small co-pay and low deductible and it cost $325/month.

After Obamacare, the premium jumped to $1000 and had a $6000 deductible. I got a subsidy on the premium, but I still couldn't afford to use the insurance.

We have that with Medicare and Medicaid. Obamacare was supposed to bridge the gap between employer sponsored plans and the individual market- which it did, but it wrecked the small business group market in the process.

If we want to make the Gov't cover everything and tax for it, then Gov't becomes the only investor, and you lose innovation. Most of the blockbuster drugs and a lot of the technology is developed right here by private companies. That takes a lot of capital, and I am concerned that the Gov't will be reluctant to spend more money on research and development.

Obamacare was a compromise, a stepping stone towards something better. They know the Republicans will get in more often than not, and will try and destroy any healthcare thing the Democrats put in.

It's survived Trump's first four years and Trump has made it clear he's not going to get rid of it unless some Republican can come up with something "better". Which they won't, because they don't like it.

So, a stepping stone, were government more interested in the people and their problems, maybe it wouldn't be an issue, like it's not an issue in Europe (except for the right wing in the UK who want a US style system).

If people actually stood up for themselves, then maybe there'd be a better system in place. But people do as they're told by their rich overlords. So they get what the rich want.
 
My problem with Obamacare is that it didn't address the cost of health care in any effective way. It just handed out a huge part of GDP to insurance companies, and relies on them to deal with the cost.

Which they do, by rationing care.

I had a good insurance plan that was an 80/20 plan with a small co-pay and low deductible and it cost $325/month.

After Obamacare, the premium jumped to $1000 and had a $6000 deductible. I got a subsidy on the premium, but I still couldn't afford to use the insurance.

We have that with Medicare and Medicaid. Obamacare was supposed to bridge the gap between employer sponsored plans and the individual market- which it did, but it wrecked the small business group market in the process.

If we want to make the Gov't cover everything and tax for it, then Gov't becomes the only investor, and you lose innovation. Most of the blockbuster drugs and a lot of the technology is developed right here by private companies. That takes a lot of capital, and I am concerned that the Gov't will be reluctant to spend more money on research and development.
Your concerns are unfounded.
 
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