jc456
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I just want someone to ask the judge if the president has the authority to stop immigration. Just ask him. I want to know what this stoop knows about the law.
Obama Seditious Undermining of Trump Administration Continues....
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in fact, the stoop stated that had any other president create that EO, there'd be nothing wrong with it. So he admits there is no violation of the constitution in that statement. I want his fknig job.
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Conservatards trying to switch the conversation to Obama who isn't even president because Trump is doing a shitty job to try and take the heat off him.
Sad!
Sad!
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they can't even defend their actions. It is a complete judicial overreach. PERIOD. I want him disbarred.
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or, it's just true and factual.
So Valerie is just a live-in girlfriend?
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So Obama went all the way to Hawaii in order to talk to this judge?
Is the telegraph cable out of order again?
lol
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jc456
I'm not the authority on the constitution or constitutional law that you say you are. Please explain EXACTLY how is this "complete judicial overreach".
Please be specific.
Thanks.
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Another conspiracy theory. Obama was born and raised in Hawaii--so it's no surprise that he was there.
I know you got this new conspiracy theory from "Mr. Talent on Loan from GAAAWWD"--but a little reading won't hurt, and it's something that Rush Limbaugh would have NEVER told you.
Trump’s Executive Order Is an Unconstitutional Attack on Muslims. It Must Be Struck Down In Its Entirety.
"The ruling is almost entirely based on the "intent of the Trump administration," says CNN correspondent Jessica Schneider "The judge specifically said it was that intent to create this Muslim ban that violated the Constitution's establishment clause... he pointed to several instances, very specifically, saying it was President Trump's own words on the campaign trail... advocating the 'complete and total shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.'"
The judge said it was illogical that the ban was not motivated by religious discrimination.
"The illogic of the Government's contentions is palpable," Watson wrote. "The notion that one can demonstrate animus toward any group of people only by targeting all of them at once is fundamentally flawed."
Trump's new travel ban blocked: What you need to know - CNNPolitics.com
Where does the intent come from? Trump and his surrogates that continually referred to it as MUSLIM BAN.
"If Trump’s previous comments aren’t enough evidence, consider what his adviser Rudy Giuliani admitted on Saturday night while being interviewed on Fox News: Giuliani explained how he helped Trump create a Muslim ban that would also be legal, per the president’s request. “When he first announced it, he said, ‘Muslim ban,’ ” Giuliani explained.
He called me up and said, “Put a commission together. Show me the right way to do it legally.” I put a commission together … and what we did was we focused on, instead of religion, danger. The areas of the world that create danger for us. Which is a factual basis. Not a religious basis. Perfectly legal, perfectly sensible, and that’s what the ban is based on. It’s not based on religion. It’s based on places where there are [sic] substantial evidence that people are sending terrorists into our country.
But unfortunately for Trump and Giuliani, an unconstitutional executive order does not become lawful because it is dressed up in fatuous legalese.
Trump’s Executive Order Is an Unconstitutional Attack on Muslims. It Must Be Struck Down In Its Entirety.
Every President has the right to issue an executive order to protect this country. Obama banned Iraqui's from entering this country for 6 months by issuing an executive order.
The problem with this administration is they're to vocal about their intent. You have several Senior advisers on FOX NEWS continually giving interviews, and you have the continual Presidential tweets going out everyday. Many of whom have referred to his executive order as a Muslim Ban, along with Trump campaigning on it throughout the campaign season.
IOW--this judge feels like this second executive order is just a repeat of the first one. A Muslim ban, which is in violation of the Establishment clause of the constitution. Whether or not Trump will get this through the courts is unknown at this time.
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why? It is and you know it is. so there is no point in going through posting up links on why, you'll just deny it.
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so the question is, how can that be when muslims are allowed in from other countries? get your hands around that first please.
Another conspiracy theory. Obama was born and raised in Hawaii--so it's no surprise that he was there.
I know you got this new conspiracy theory from "Mr. Talent on Loan from GAAAWWD"--but a little reading won't hurt, and it's something that Rush Limbaugh would have NEVER told you.
Trump’s Executive Order Is an Unconstitutional Attack on Muslims. It Must Be Struck Down In Its Entirety.
"The ruling is almost entirely based on the "intent of the Trump administration," says CNN correspondent Jessica Schneider "The judge specifically said it was that intent to create this Muslim ban that violated the Constitution's establishment clause... he pointed to several instances, very specifically, saying it was President Trump's own words on the campaign trail... advocating the 'complete and total shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.'"
The judge said it was illogical that the ban was not motivated by religious discrimination.
"The illogic of the Government's contentions is palpable," Watson wrote. "The notion that one can demonstrate animus toward any group of people only by targeting all of them at once is fundamentally flawed."
Trump's new travel ban blocked: What you need to know - CNNPolitics.com
Where does the intent come from? Trump and his surrogates that continually referred to it as MUSLIM BAN.
"If Trump’s previous comments aren’t enough evidence, consider what his adviser Rudy Giuliani admitted on Saturday night while being interviewed on Fox News: Giuliani explained how he helped Trump create a Muslim ban that would also be legal, per the president’s request. “When he first announced it, he said, ‘Muslim ban,’ ” Giuliani explained.
He called me up and said, “Put a commission together. Show me the right way to do it legally.” I put a commission together … and what we did was we focused on, instead of religion, danger. The areas of the world that create danger for us. Which is a factual basis. Not a religious basis. Perfectly legal, perfectly sensible, and that’s what the ban is based on. It’s not based on religion. It’s based on places where there are [sic] substantial evidence that people are sending terrorists into our country.
But unfortunately for Trump and Giuliani, an unconstitutional executive order does not become lawful because it is dressed up in fatuous legalese.
Trump’s Executive Order Is an Unconstitutional Attack on Muslims. It Must Be Struck Down In Its Entirety.
Every President has the right to issue an executive order to protect this country. Obama banned Iraqui's from entering this country for 6 months by issuing an executive order.
The problem with this administration is they're too vocal about their intent. You have several Senior advisers on FOX NEWS continually and you have the continual Presidential tweets going out everyday. Many of whom have referred to his executive order as a Muslim Ban.
IOW--this judge feels like this second executive order is just a repeat of the first one. A Muslim ban, which is in violation of the Establishment clause of the constitution.
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I stopped reading at this point because you were so wrong I figured nothing else you wrote was worth reading. Limbaugh is an obese, pompous, arrogant windbag on who I would not waste my time...but it sounds like you do.
Have a good weekend.
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of what?
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Each justice or judge of the United States shall take the following oath or affirmation before performing the duties of his office: “I, ___ ___, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will administer justice without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich, and that I will faithfully and impartially* discharge and perform all the duties incumbent upon me as ___ under the Constitution and laws of the United States. So help me God.”
(June 25, 1948, ch. 646, 62 Stat. 907; Pub. L. 101–650, title IV, § 404, Dec. 1, 1990, 104 Stat. 5124.)
28 U.S. Code § 453 - Oaths of justices and judges
Not sure of the "overreach", but he definitely violated his oath of office.
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