Obama Says His Apology Calmed Things Down

[regent]

The burning was supposedly a mistake and the president apologized for the error. The apology might have saved a few lives, we'll never know, but if it did, was the apology was worth it? We keep applying our way of life as to how the world should act and seem surprised when they don't. In any case if some American lives were save I am grateful, even though it might have ruffled some macho feathers.

 

[mudwhistle]

The burning was supposedly a mistake and the president apologized for the error. The apology might have saved a few lives, we'll never know, but if it did, was the apology was worth it? We keep applying our way of life as to how the world should act and seem surprised when they don't. In any case if some American lives were save I am grateful, even though it might have ruffled some macho feathers.

The story keeps changing. First it was because some prisoners were writing in them. If that were the case, why weren't they turned over to local clerics for desposal? Then they claimed it was an accident. We'll call it a Quran malfunction. Book-burning and flag-burning are a daily occurance. When are we gonna get a straight answer from the Obama Administration?

As touchy as Obama is about offending Muslims he sure seems to allow his authority to be delegated. Important local customs trashed with impunity.

Obama won't take responsibility for this. An apology of this sort is not an admission of guilt.

First, the burning should never have taken place.

Second, if it had to take place it should have been a secret.

Third, the apology should have been private, not in such a ridiculously public manner causing the riots in the first place.

Last, this is not the first time an Afghan has pulled a gun and shot our troops in cold-blood. This is just the latest incident. Somebody needs to answer for the violence that has taken place this time and in the past. I'd start with the afghan government.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Take away the ME over the last forty years and world has been a tranquil place. 7th century shithole.

 

[waltky]

What a mess...

Rampage might hamper US-Afghan strategic pact
Tue, Mar 13, 2012 - MAJOR SETBACK? : The two sides have been discussing a partnership agreement for more than a year and had just made a major breakthrough, but that is now in jeopardy

The killing of 16 villagers by a US soldier in Afghanistan’s south could hurt Washington’s efforts to reach a strategic pact with Kabul to allow a long-term US presence in the country, an Afghan official said yesterday. Sunday’s attack on the civilians, the latest US public relations disaster in Afghanistan, could be a turning point for the US, which wants to maintain advisers there as it tries to wind down the increasingly unpopular war. The Strategic Partnership Agreement currently being negotiated is a key part of that strategy. “This could delay the signing of the Strategic Partnership Agreement,” the Afghan government official said.

Simmering anti-American anger has boiled over since copies of the Koran were burned at a NATO base last month, with many Afghans insisting it is time for the US and their NATO allies to leave. Those calls are likely to grow after the shooting spree in villages in the province of Kandahar, the heartland of the Taliban. The civilian deaths, mostly children and women, might also force Afghan President Hamid Karzai to harden his stand in the partnership talks to appease a public already critical of his government’s performance. The partnership agreement, which Washington and Kabul have been discussing for more than a year, will be the framework for US involvement in Afghanistan after foreign combat troops leave at the end of 2014.

The Kandahar violence came just days after the US and Afghanistan signed a deal on the gradual transfer of a major US-run detention center to Afghan authorities, overcoming one of the main sticking points in the partnership negotiations. Afghanistan wants a timeline to take over detention centers and for the US and NATO to agree to end night raids on Afghan homes as preconditions for signing the pact. Civilian deaths are one of the main sources of tension between Kabul and Washington, with the war in its 11th year. Incidents such as the Koran burning at Bagram air base and the Kandahar shooting show the challenges that remain as foreign forces gradually transfer security responsibility to Afghans.

Sunday’s attack might also harden a growing consensus in Washington about what can be accomplished in Afghanistan. The bill for the war has already exceeded US$500 billion and more than 1,900 US troops have been killed, with the total number of foreign troops killed approaching 3,000. “These killings only serve to reinforce the mindset that the whole war is broken and that there’s little we can do about it beyond trying to cut our losses and leave,” said Joshua Foust, a security expert with the American Security Project.

Source

 

[Katzndogz]

Have you noticed that there are no street protests over the killing of these 16 Afghans? No one is burning anything in effigy. There is a distinct lack of outrage especially compared to the koran burning outrage.

This is something that Afghans do to one another. It is something they understand. There will be no riots in the streets. This is within their own comprehension,

 

[The T]

Obama Says Afghan Apology Calmed Anti-US Violence

They've been playing a video of Obama this morning saying that his apology calmed things down in Afghanistan.

I burst out loud laughing when I saw this.

This guy just can't stop lying. He has to put a spin on everything he says to the point that it loses it's meaning.

He says his apology calmed things down, but he also said we're not out of the woods yet.
Obama says Afghan apology calmed anti-US violence
WTF???

If it calmed things down we wouldn't be in the woods. PressTV - Afghanistan?s current upheaval beyond US control

He claims that the apology was made to save lives but two more soldiers were killed yesterday, rioters are still in the streets burning us in effigy. Our soldiers can't walk the streets in Afghanistan without fear for their lives thanks to Obama's apology.

The fact is he is responsible for this mess. He is ultimately responsible for foreign policy. If there is a problem with Qurans in the prison library you don't burn them. You turn them over to local religious leaders for disposal. At the very least you ask them what we should do with them.

This is what happens in just about every Muslim country we help. First they're grateful for our help. Then the radicals start bitching and moaning about infidels desecrating their country by our mere presence. Eventually they start trying to kill us. You have a choice in dealing with these people; Ether kiss their asses or tell them to STFU or risk serious consequences. Obama decided to kiss their asses and now the radicals are taking over, exactly what he claims he tried to prevent.

They are claiming that anti-US sentiments are currently at an all time high. PressTV - 'Human rights violations tarnish US image'
Iran is claiming that the United States is guilty of human rights violations.

Wow. All of those apologies are doing wonders to improve our image in the Muslim world.

Love the 'Toons!

The man is out of touch. It's akin to telling us the sky is green when we can look and see otherwise. Think it matters to the mindless ObamaBots?

Not a wit.