OBAMA National Civilian Security Force???

[WhiteLion]

What in hell will this paramilitary force do on American soil????? you tell me?? man oh man i smell T-R-O-U-B-L-E...
Gateway Pundit: Obama's Plans For Marxist-like National Civilian Security Force Back in the News
http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/obamas-civilian-national-security-force/

 

[007]

My fucking God... and people blow it off when I said this country is headed for another Civil War.

 

[Silence]

OMG RUN...RUN FOR THE HILLS!

you Cons fall for every blog that comes down the pike don't you? it's rather pathetic how gullible you all are.

 

[dilloduck]

What in hell will this paramilitary force do on American soil????? you tell me?? man oh man i smell T-R-O-U-B-L-E...
Gateway Pundit: Obama's Plans For Marxist-like National Civilian Security Force Back in the News
Obama’s Civilian National Security Force Giovanni’s World

Paramilitary ?

 

[editec]

Got any credible sources for this charge?

 

[Red Dawn]

Gateway Pundit: Obama's Plans For Marxist-like National Civilian Security Force Back in the News

LMAO!

 

[007]

OMG RUN...RUN FOR THE HILLS!

you Cons fall for every blog that comes down the pike don't you? it's rather pathetic how gullible you all are.

I doubt lop ear could ever implement a national security force anyway. We can't afford it.

However, you think it would be a good idea or not?

 

[WhiteLion]

I doubt lop ear could ever implement a national security force anyway. We can't afford it.

However, you think it would be a good idea or not?

Heres a very disturbing video link from a Russian defector, its all coming down real soon, i fear OBAMA is the forerunner of USA Socialist Totalinarism...
Dailymotion - Yuri Bezmenov, a video from onmyway02. bezmenov, KGB, yuri, soviet, marxism

 

[Skull Pilot]

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American Thinker: Obama's Civilian National Security Force

Barack Obama's recent words to promote his image as Community Organizer in Chief were not about forming a paramilitary force of volunteer brown shirts. They were about turning America into one, giant, community organizer's sandbox at enormous cost to taxpayers.

The range of his community service initiatives was outlined in an earlier American Thinker article. In his campaign document entitled "The Blueprint for Change: Barack Obama's Plan For America,"

He plans to double the Peace Corps' budget by 2011, and expand AmeriCorps, USA Freedom Corps, VISTA, YouthBuild Program, and the Senior Corps. Plus, he proposes to form a Classroom Corps, Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, Veterans Corps, Homeland Security Corps, Global Energy Corps, and a Green Jobs Corps. Here a corps - there a corps - everywhere a corps corps.

So it made sense in Colorado Springs when he said his call to community service "will be a central cause of my presidency." He couldn't be clearer in signaling his intentions, including a Social Investment Fund Network to link local non-profits with the federal government.

The entire plan is breathtaking in its scope. But it does not, as at least one internet writer has suggested, portend a "giant police force." It would be easier to rebut if it did. As it is, it's silly stuff born of naively fanciful dreams.

Senator Obama aims to tap into the already active volunteerism of millions of Americans and recruit them to become cogs in a gigantic government machine grinding out his social re-engineering agenda. It's Orwellian-like, with a novice social activist's mentality at the helm.


Voters haven't paid much attention to his "Service" plan because the old news media has ignored it. That will likely continue, even though Obama attached an approximate price tag to it in Colorado Springs. When Obama said that the "civilian national security force" would be just as "well-funded" as the Armed Forces, he stepped squarely into the giant sandbox and played with the big numbers. As the late Carl Sagan said, "billions and billions" of dollars. Here's how.

The FY 2008 Department of Defense (DoD) budget is about $482 billion. Obama has announced his intentions to cut "tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending," including $9 billion per month spent in Iraq and expenditures for the missile defense system, while increasing the force size of the Army and Marine Corps.

Let's imagine "tens of billions" in cuts eventually adds up to a whopping $150 billion. That would be a near one-third cut in defense spending, taking the DoD budget down to $332 billion. Even in such an extreme case of DoD budget reduction, for his "civilian national security force" to be "just as well-funded" would mean funding his community service initiatives at an equivalent $332 billion.

Consequently, another $332 billion in addition to the Pentagon's reduced budget of $332 billion equals a net increase of $182 billion in the annual federal budget, assuming we sponge-up the already existing expenditures for the relatively meager, by comparison, existing service programs he plans to expand. That's $182,000,000,000 in new federal monies, and that means higher taxes.

In his entire life, Senator Obama has never managed an organization larger than a Senate staff, or that of a law school publication. And, he's never operated a for-profit business or been responsible for any profit center within one. So, while words matter to Senator Obama, it's not clear if math means anything to him at all.

Note: the author has experience in community organizing. For example, he organized one of the earliest Meals-on-Wheels programs in Illinois, in continuous service for over 30 years. He trained over a hundred Illinois non-profit organizations to resettle Vietnamese Refugees. He assembled three dozen congregations and a synagogue in a mid-sized Texas town to provide emergency assistance to low-income citizens, in continuous operation for 25 years. He was an expert witness at a Texas Senate hearing when legislation forming the state's Commission on Human Rights was being drafted.

 

[WhiteLion]

Paramilitary ?

A paramilitary is a force whose function and organization are similar to those of a professional military force, but which are not regarded as having the same status.[1] The term uses the Greek prefix para- ("beside"), also seen in words such as paramedic.
The term paramilitary is subjective, depending on what is considered similar to a military force, and what status a force is considered to have. The nature of paramilitary forces therefore varies greatly according to the speaker and the context.
See the Posse Comitatus prevented the government from using USA standing military force from acting as a police state army against USA civilians, the only way they can get around this act is thru Presidential excutive order or act of Congress. Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 16, 1878. The Act prohibits most members of the federal uniformed services (the Army, Air Force, and State National Guard forces when such are called into federal service) from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order"
The statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress or EXECUTIVE ORDER...
Now if Obama granted inacted or developed a fully funded paramilitary group within the USA borders he wouldnt have to declare Marshal law and shutdown the US Constitution for a period of 6 months, Obama knows a lot of shit could go south in that period of time under Marshal Law...
Hitlar did the same exact thing before the horrors of Auszwitz began... I beleive where there's smoke THERE IS FIRE mark it down... I hope and pray that this's all just propaganda and lies, but i fear my gut feeling is telling me something else...

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery ..."Winston Churchill

 

[dilloduck]

A paramilitary is a force whose function and organization are similar to those of a professional military force, but which are not regarded as having the same status.[1] The term uses the Greek prefix para- ("beside"), also seen in words such as paramedic.
The term paramilitary is subjective, depending on what is considered similar to a military force, and what status a force is considered to have. The nature of paramilitary forces therefore varies greatly according to the speaker and the context.
See the Posse Comitatus prevented the government from using USA standing military force from acting as a police state army against USA civilians, the only way they can get around this act is thru Presidential excutive order or act of Congress. Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 16, 1878. The Act prohibits most members of the federal uniformed services (the Army, Air Force, and State National Guard forces when such are called into federal service) from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order"
The statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress or EXECUTIVE ORDER...
Now if Obama granted inacted or developed a fully funded paramilitary group within the USA borders he wouldnt have to declare Marshal law and shutdown the US Constitution for a period of 6 months, Obama knows a lot of shit could go south in that period of time under Marshal Law...
Hitlar did the same exact thing before the horrors of Auszwitz began... I beleive where there's smoke THERE IS FIRE mark it down... I hope and pray that this's all just propaganda and lies, but i fear my gut feeling is telling me something else...

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery ..."Winston Churchill

Obama has overestimated his charisma if he expects he can pull this fiasco off. I have a feeling he overestimates a lot of things.

 

[eots]

Obama has overestimated his charisma if he expects he can pull this fiasco off. I have a feeling he overestimates a lot of things.

this is exactly what they would of said about the Bush doctrine and the patriot act before 911...a helpful 911 type incident of sorts.. to rally the left wing zealots ..and you will be amazed what can be pulled off....

 

[GigiBowman]

Georgia congressman warns of Obama dictatorship

Nov 10 08:46 PM US/Eastern
By BEN EVANS
Associated Press


WASHINGTON (AP) - A Republican congressman from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist dictatorship.
"It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's the one who proposed this national security force," Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. "I'm just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may—may not, I hope not—but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism."

Broun cited a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military.

"That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did," Broun said. "When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist."

Obama's comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado in which he called for expanding the nation's foreign service.

continued:


Georgia congressman warns of Obama dictatorship

 

[dilloduck]

this is exactly what they would of said about the Bush doctrine and the patriot act before 911...a helpful 911 type incident of sorts.. to rally the left wing zealots ..and you will be amazed what can be pulled off....

here's an example of you going over the top again.
What is going to be the reason cited for this humongous civilian volunteer corps ? What problem are they going to address ?

 

[eots]

problem..reaction.. solution...at least you know the formula

 

[dilloduck]

problem..reaction.. solution...at least you know the formula

of course I do----now what's the problem ?

 

[eots]

the problem.. is economic crisis..domestic and foreign terrorist.. lurking in the shadows
our military engaged in war overstretched .. another incident like bidden predicted....the reaction fear.. uncertainty...look for a saviour ....solution The OBAGWA AND HIS NATIONAL SECURITY FORCE

 

[WhiteLion]

the problem.. is economic crisis..domestic and foreign terrorist.. lurking in the shadows
our military engaged in war overstretched .. another incident like bidden predicted....the reaction fear.. uncertainty...look for a saviour ....solution The OBAGWA AND HIS NATIONAL SECURITY FORCE

I fear that by the time something of this nature occurs itll be to late to react... I heard a prominent congressman quote the Boiling Frog Syndrome; "If you throw a frog into a pot of boiling water, he’ll jump out. But if you place a frog into a pot of lukewarm water and slowly turn up the heat, it will boil to death.
The Boiling Frog Syndrome

Dailymotion - Yuri Bezmenov, a video from onmyway02. bezmenov, KGB, yuri, soviet, marxism

I dont know about you all, but state succession's looking awful appetizing if this appears to start materalizing...
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery ..."Winston Churchill

 

[WhiteLion]

OMG RUN...RUN FOR THE HILLS!

you Cons fall for every blog that comes down the pike don't you? it's rather pathetic how gullible you all are.

You might head for the hills, but i like my forefathers in the country back to the 1750s will stay and fight so you can continue to spew your socialist marxist garbage ok???

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

 

[eots]

You might head for the hills, but i like my forefathers in the country back to the 1750s will stay and fight so you can continue to spew your socialist marxist garbage ok???

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment 1a
as long as the proper permits have been approved...that it contains no hate speech..and occurs in designated free speech zones only



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