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i think i heard that in the debate, airplanes can now land on boats.... we apparently also have ships that can go under the sea. wow spongebob !
Obama lied about Osama bin Laden's death
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No you are the stupid one here! You make the following statement: "you DO realize that they transported his body to a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier, right?" Apparently, YOU were not paying attention. I said "DNA tests take 3-10 days to run and are not something that can be done in flight or at sea." What are the those two last words? AT SEA. Where do aircraft carriers go? They go AT SEA, do they not, stupid? Learn to pay attention!
Even if a DNA test could be done aboard an aircraft carrier, there is NO WAY OF GETTING DNA RESULTS IN LESS THAN 24 HOURS.
You're right..............aircraft carriers DO go out to sea. Incidentally, during that time they can not only launch and recover aircraft, but they can handle just about any kind of medical emergency, as well as do a lot of other stuff.
How do I know? I was stationed aboard two carriers while stationed with VFA-131.
Try again idiot...................
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Below is an article that the New York Times ran on July 11, 2002, acknowledgeing and accepting that Osama Bin Laden died in December 2001. Even Pakistan's president at that time knew and accepted it.
NYTimes.com
The Death of bin Ladenism
By Amir Taheri
Published: July 11, 2002
Osama bin Laden is dead. The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan almost six months ago: the fugitive died in December and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan. Pakistan's president, Pervez Musharraf, echoed the information. The remnants of Osama's gang, however, have mostly stayed silent, either to keep Osama's ghost alive or because they have no means of communication.
NYTimes.com
The Death of bin Ladenism
By Amir Taheri
Published: July 11, 2002
Osama bin Laden is dead. The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan almost six months ago: the fugitive died in December and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan. Pakistan's president, Pervez Musharraf, echoed the information. The remnants of Osama's gang, however, have mostly stayed silent, either to keep Osama's ghost alive or because they have no means of communication.
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I'm shocked! The president of Pakistan is harboring Ossama and he wanted the world to believe he was dead. You could of knocked me over with a feather!!
What a hack moron.
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They kept Bin Laden alive because they needed a false flag for their “war on terror” so they could keep on asking money and power from people.
In 2011, the US decided to start war on Iran. Like they justify the Iraq and Afghan war with 911 attack, they needed a similar “terror attack” to justify war on Iran. They created “Operation Geronimo” to justify a “nuke terror attack” in the name of “Al Qaeda revenge for Bin Laden’s death”.
Al Qaida seems to have access to the toppest secret of US government. They knew "kill Bin Laden Operation" in advance.
Quote, "
Five days before May 1st, Wikileaks and Al Qaida knew of “Bin Laden’s death” would have happened and announced a warning. The news is a clumsy product of the “disinformation office” of the Feds. It means:
1. Al Qaida have nuclear weapon. They havenÂ’t used it because Bin Laden hadnÂ’t been caught or killed.
2. Wikileaks and Al Qaida knew Bin Laden would be killed several days later so issued a warning.
Al Qaida are so powerful that they knew everything, have everything and can do everything even though they are chased from the cave to cave, because they have the Magic Lantern of Alladin. They always come out in time when the Feds need them. They activated 911 attack to help justify Mid-east war. This time, will they have a nuke attack to justify war on Iran?
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So very true Katsung.That is correct that they kept Bin Laden alive for their false flag war on terror.That was why Clinton did not go after him when he had the chance.Bush haters who like Clinton say that Bush ignored warnings that there were going to be terrorists attacks against the united states in the upcoming months and point out correctly that Bush did nothing,that he ignored them and was more interested in taking vacations in texas the first 9 months while president than he was in protecting us which is true but then they always go and make the false claim that Clinton went after Bin Laden like a firestorm but Clinton just missed him when he tried to attack him by a day or so or something like that and they quote these sources below as their evidence.
FactCheck.org : Clinton Passed on Killing bin Laden?
However that link is all a bunch of B.S and lies because its a known fact that 2 different countrys offered Bin Laden up to clinton on a silver platter and he had no interests in him.Matter of fact it was all over the newscasts INITIALLY of a high ranking general in the military coming on CNN being interviewed late at night once "thats how the media operates,they'll show some important information ONCE late at night,and then you never seen them broadcast it again since like in this case,it was not politically correct."
That General came on the nightly news and said that they had Bin Laden cornered and were ready to go in and arrest him and bring him before a court but he said right there live on the newscast that Clinton told them to lay off him and leave him alone.
I remember seeing that right there that very night,I was channel hopping and just happened to come across that and saw it. I was pleased to see Dick Morris write a book about it a few years later because like I said,that news item conveintly disapeared and you never heard anything from the lamestream media about that again after that so I was pleased to see Dick Morris- who served in the Clinton White house, write a book about it and HE even mentioned that point in the book that I remember seeing that night when he wrote the book years later.I read his book and saw where he mentioned that general coming on that nightly newscast and said-Yeah I remember that.I saw him say that that night,I remember that moment."
So yeah,you totally hit the nail right on the head there when you said they kept him alive because they needed him for their phony war on terror and false flag operation. Bin Laden was just like Oswald,a patsy for their war on terror.
Mr Jones hit the nail on the head as well when he mentioned this over on that same thread where I got that link on Clinton when he posted this below.
It is well known that Clinton and Bush Sr. are buddies. This 2 party "system" is BS. the sooner you understand this the better you would realize it is always the people that lose.
Clinton is just as much responsible, and is just as much a shady character as the Bush die nasty family. They both had war mongering Zionists extremists flooding their administrations.
Clinton was not eligible for a 2nd term, so it was up to the incoming Bush presidency to facilitate the events of 9-11, and Gore couldn't be trusted to do it so the 2000 election fiasco
was a crucial step in bringing this treasonous bunch into power.
Its a very well known fact that Clinton has a long standing close friendship with the Bushs that date back to at least the early 80's.
FactCheck.org : Clinton Passed on Killing bin Laden?
However that link is all a bunch of B.S and lies because its a known fact that 2 different countrys offered Bin Laden up to clinton on a silver platter and he had no interests in him.Matter of fact it was all over the newscasts INITIALLY of a high ranking general in the military coming on CNN being interviewed late at night once "thats how the media operates,they'll show some important information ONCE late at night,and then you never seen them broadcast it again since like in this case,it was not politically correct."
That General came on the nightly news and said that they had Bin Laden cornered and were ready to go in and arrest him and bring him before a court but he said right there live on the newscast that Clinton told them to lay off him and leave him alone.
I remember seeing that right there that very night,I was channel hopping and just happened to come across that and saw it. I was pleased to see Dick Morris write a book about it a few years later because like I said,that news item conveintly disapeared and you never heard anything from the lamestream media about that again after that so I was pleased to see Dick Morris- who served in the Clinton White house, write a book about it and HE even mentioned that point in the book that I remember seeing that night when he wrote the book years later.I read his book and saw where he mentioned that general coming on that nightly newscast and said-Yeah I remember that.I saw him say that that night,I remember that moment."
So yeah,you totally hit the nail right on the head there when you said they kept him alive because they needed him for their phony war on terror and false flag operation. Bin Laden was just like Oswald,a patsy for their war on terror.
Mr Jones hit the nail on the head as well when he mentioned this over on that same thread where I got that link on Clinton when he posted this below.
It is well known that Clinton and Bush Sr. are buddies. This 2 party "system" is BS. the sooner you understand this the better you would realize it is always the people that lose.
Clinton is just as much responsible, and is just as much a shady character as the Bush die nasty family. They both had war mongering Zionists extremists flooding their administrations.
Clinton was not eligible for a 2nd term, so it was up to the incoming Bush presidency to facilitate the events of 9-11, and Gore couldn't be trusted to do it so the 2000 election fiasco
was a crucial step in bringing this treasonous bunch into power.
Its a very well known fact that Clinton has a long standing close friendship with the Bushs that date back to at least the early 80's.
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I love how you evade the facts as always.al queda was funded by the CIA,the friends and family members of course are going to go along with it,thwy want to stay alive.people who give different versions than the governments version of events end up dying in mysterious deaths.happened in the JFK assassination,happend with 9/11.
many in the JFK assassination matter of fact kept quiet for years because they were afraid cause of all the mysterious deaths of people. oh and stop telling lies,its only here in america where people have swallowed your propaganda,other counties no it was an inside job and the media that you worship is controlled by the CIA and both parties are corrupt fool. oh and congress is corrupt as hell.the ones that questioned it, they got rid of.any wonder they earned that 7% approval rating, the lowest in its history and Bush had the lowest approval rating of any president ever?
since YOU evade facts and change the subject.then I get to change the subject as well.debunk this video.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/consp...911-conspiracy-theory-in-under-5-minutes.html
you cant.you like everybody always runs off.
You are evading & deflecting. Tell me which countries government says Obama is lying about Osama Bin Laden! Which government scraped up the blood from that bedroom & did a DNA test proving that was not Osama Bin Laden? I guarantee they tested it & would have used it as proof & loudly declared we were lying if it was not true. Al-Qaeda said it's true & still fights US to this day. Just look at what happened in Benghazi. Nobody in the real world has any real proof to the contrary. Only internet hucksters claim it was a lie.
You are a gullible dumbass!
The body that was supposedly that of Osama Bin Laden was buried at sea within 24 hours of being gunned down in what was probably a CIA safehouse set up with help from Blackwater. Claims by the White House and CIA that DNA confirmation of his identity are bogus.
DNA tests take 3-10 days to run and are not something that can be done in flight or at sea.
You are the dumbass!
I said Osama's blood was splattered all over his bedroom where we shot him. There were blankets, sheets, flooring, walls, pillows, etc left at the scene with his blood all over them. It was shown all over the news. Every country that wanted to test the blood got some from that room & tested it & found it was Osama's blood. Not one person, organization or country has proven that it was not Osama.
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Bin Laden denied involvement in 911 in the interview. US mainstream media censored this news.
The Osama bin Laden Myth
Paul Craig Roberts
November 26, 2012|
The interview below with Osama bin Laden was conducted by the Karachi, Pakistan, daily newspaper, Ummat and published on September 28, 2001, 17 days after the alleged, but unsubstantiated, al Qaeda attack of September 11, 2001, on the World Trade Center twin towers and Pentagon. The interview was sensational. The alleged “mastermind” of 9/11 said that he and al Qaeda had nothing to do with the 9/11 attack. The British Broadcasting Corporation’s World Monitoring Service had the interview translated into English and made public on September 29, 2001.
Osama bin Laden’s sensational denial was not reported by the US print and TV media. It was not investigated by the executive branch. No one in the US Congress called attention to bin Laden’s refusal of responsibility for the greatest humiliation ever inflicted on a superpower.
To check my memory of the lack of coverage, I googled “Osama bin Laden’s interview denying responsibility for 9/11.” Some Internet sites reproduced the interview, but the only mainstream news source that I found was a 1 minute YouTube video from CNN in which the anchor, after quoting an al Jazeera report of bin Laden’s denial, concludes that “we can all weigh that in the scale of credibility and come to our own conclusions.” In other words, bin Laden had already been demonized, and his denial was not credible.
The sensational news was unfit for US citizens and was withheld from them by the american “free press,” a press free to lie for the government but not to tell the truth.
The Osama bin Laden Myth - PaulCraigRoberts.org
The Osama bin Laden Myth
Paul Craig Roberts
November 26, 2012|
The interview below with Osama bin Laden was conducted by the Karachi, Pakistan, daily newspaper, Ummat and published on September 28, 2001, 17 days after the alleged, but unsubstantiated, al Qaeda attack of September 11, 2001, on the World Trade Center twin towers and Pentagon. The interview was sensational. The alleged “mastermind” of 9/11 said that he and al Qaeda had nothing to do with the 9/11 attack. The British Broadcasting Corporation’s World Monitoring Service had the interview translated into English and made public on September 29, 2001.
Osama bin Laden’s sensational denial was not reported by the US print and TV media. It was not investigated by the executive branch. No one in the US Congress called attention to bin Laden’s refusal of responsibility for the greatest humiliation ever inflicted on a superpower.
To check my memory of the lack of coverage, I googled “Osama bin Laden’s interview denying responsibility for 9/11.” Some Internet sites reproduced the interview, but the only mainstream news source that I found was a 1 minute YouTube video from CNN in which the anchor, after quoting an al Jazeera report of bin Laden’s denial, concludes that “we can all weigh that in the scale of credibility and come to our own conclusions.” In other words, bin Laden had already been demonized, and his denial was not credible.
The sensational news was unfit for US citizens and was withheld from them by the american “free press,” a press free to lie for the government but not to tell the truth.
The Osama bin Laden Myth - PaulCraigRoberts.org
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Thats funny that you mentioned this because I beat you to the punch on that about a month ago.this supports everything Wildcard posted.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/consp...roberts-exposes-the-osama-bin-laden-myth.html
Looks like great minds think alike.
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Further proof that Barack Obama deceived the American people, and further proof that Osama Bin Laden did die in December 2001.
Osama Bin Laden died of natural cause on December 2001. So whom did Obama kill in Pakistan on Sunday 1 May?
By Latheef Farook
Posted by Sailanmuslim on May 9, 2011
Top United States’ officials including Madeline Albright said;.
President Barack Obama announced on Monday 2 May 2011 that Osama Bin Laden, founder and leader of Al Qaeda, was killed in an early morning attack by American forces. He said it happened in a housing compound at Abbottabad, a beautiful, green hill city nestled among the mountains, a few hundred yards from the military academy in the suburb of Pakistan’s capital Islamabad.
First think that strikes any knowledgeable person’s mind is the question” is Osama still alive”.There were numerous reports that Bin Laden died in December 2001. As early as 17 December 2003 former US Secretary State Madeline Albright told FOX TV News that Bin Laden was dead. Hameed Gul, retired army General and a former of Pakistan intelligence ISI commander, stated this week that Bin Ladin died way back and was buried in a private place. He added that the intelligence was that the grave was in that compound thus the attack to get the body.
There were even reports of Bin Laden’s funeral in the Egyptian paper “ Al Wafd” and The Observer of Pakistan on 26 December 2001. Following is the translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper:al-Wafd on Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633;
News of Bin Laden's Death and Funeral 10 days ago 26 Dec 2001 Islamabad .
A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa'da organization, stating that bin Laden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death.
The official, who asked to remain anonymous, stated to The Observer of Pakistan that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial in Tora Bora 10 days ago. He mentioned that 30 of al-Qa'da fighters attended the burial as well as members of his family and some friends from the Taleban. In the farewell ceremony to his final rest guns were fired in the air. The official stated that it is difficult to pinpoint the burial location of bin Laden because according to the Wahhabi tradition no mark is left by the grave. He stressed that it is unlikely that the American forces would ever uncover any traces of bin Laden
Lashing out at Obama’s claim as a “sick joke” top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents –Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter-and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show this week that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.
Pieczenik said that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001, “Not because special forces had killed him, but because as a physician I had known ,that the CIA physicians had treated him and it was on the intelligence roster that he had marfan syndrome,” adding that the US government knew Bin Laden was dead before they invaded Afghanistan. He died of Marfan syndrome ,a degenerative genetic disease for which there is no permanent cure. The illness severely shortens the life span of the sufferer.
Dismissing the government’s account of the assassination of Bin Laden as a “sick joke” on the American people, Pieczenik said, “They are so desperate to make Obama viable, to negate the fact that he may not have been born here, any questions about his background, any irregularities about his background, to make him look assertive….to re-elect this president so the American public can be duped once again.”
Pieczenik’s assertion that Bin Laden died almost ten years ago is echoed by numerous intelligence professionals as well as heads of state across the world.
Dismissing Obama’s claim British broadcaster and journalist Yvonne Ridley said” only gullible Americans believe Bin Laden killing. The death of
bin Laden, she suggested, “might just secure Obama’s second term in office, judging from the rather unbridled show of hysteria by the masses gathered in New York's Times Square, Ground Zero and other landmark sites.” According to her in October 2001 the Taliban's foreign minister offered to handover Bin Laden but the “reality is that the US needed an excuse to go into Afghanistan.” “Osama bin Laden provided that reason otherwise they could have avoided the world's costliest manhunt for the last decade, the futile War on Terror and the catastrophic war in Afghanistan which has cost tens of thousands of lives,” .
Challenging Obama’s claim David Ray Griffin had this to say in an article under the headline”Osama Bin Laden: Dead or Alive; in the website “ Global Research”;
We had considerable testimony in 2002, from people in position to know, that bin Laden was dead, or probably so. These people included President Musharraf, Dale Watson, the head of the FBI’s counterterrorism unit and Oliver North, who said: “I'm certain that Osama is dead. And so are all the other guys I stay in touch with”; President Hamid Karzai ; sources within Israeli intelligence, who said that any new messages from bin Laden were “probably fabrications”;
Sources within Pakistani intelligence, which “confirmed the death of Osama Bin Laden” and “attributed the reasons behind Washington's hiding news on the death of Bin Laden to the desire of the hawks of the American administration to use the issue of al-Qaida and international terrorism to invade Iraq.” For this reason, perhaps, the stories about the demise of bin Laden largely came to an end in the latter part of 2002, when the United States was gearing up for its attack on Iraq. From then until now, there have been few such stories.
Recently, however, two former intelligence officers have spoken out. In October 2008, former CIA case officer Robert Baer suggested in passing during an interview on National Public Radio that bin Laden was no longer among the living. When Baer was asked about this, he said: “Of course he’s dead.”
In March 2009, former Foreign Service officer Angelo Codevilla published an essay in the American Spectator entitled “Osama bin Elvis.” Explaining his title,Codevilla wrote: “Seven years after Osama bin Laden's last verifiable appearance among the living, there is more évidence for Elvis's presence among us than for his.”
Columnist Dr. Paul Craig Roberts stated in the website Global Research on 2 May 2011 that “ This morning’s headline has the odor of a staged event. The smell reeks from the triumphalist news reports loaded with exaggerations, from celebrants waving flags and chanting “USA USA.” Could something else be going on?
On top of all people in Abbattobad,where several retired army generals live, dismissed in one voice the claim that Bin Laden lived there.
Under such circumstances the question is how come Obama killed Bin Laden? Was it a mock operation to divert the public attention from Obama’s ever mounting problems within and outside the country?
Why was Bin Laden not arrested? Why was he killed? Why was his dead body not shown to the world as they had done with Saddam Hussein and his sons? Why Osama’s remains were hastily dumped at sea eliminating trace of any evidence?
A senior US Defense official claimed that bin Laden's body was washed and placed in a white sheet, then verses of the Qur'an were cited and the corpse was eased into the North Arabian Sea. Justifying this decision the official added that finding a country willing to accept the remains of Bin Laden was difficult, so the US decided to bury him at sea.
Who was the imam who conducted the funeral prayer? If there was an imam in the naval vessel then it was pre planned. It was disgrace to Muslims worldwide that they could not provide a piece of land to bury Bin Laden’s dead body. A top Sunni cleric Ahmad al-Tayeb, Grand Sheik of al-Azhar in Cairo, has condemned dumping Bin Laden’s body into the sea as a violation of Islamic laws. He said that the dead should be given full respect regardless of their nations or beliefs, adding that a corpse should be respected when it is buried.
Commenting on the disgusting celebrations in America columnist Jody McIntyre said in “Independent.co.uk” that celebrating death is inhuman and there is nothing normal about it. He added that’;
Today, we are celebrating the death of former CIA employee Osama Bin Laden.
Can one man be solely responsible for atrocities that kill thousands of people? As with Saddam Hussein, as with Muammer Gaddafi, the complete dehumanization of Osama Bin Laden as an individual has served as the pretext for the killing of hundreds of thousands of people. If we were to follow the logic that the killing of one man called Bin Laden comprises ‘justice’ for the thousands of victims of 9/11, then what would ‘justice’ for the estimated one million Iraqis killed since the US and British-led invasion of Iraq entail?
The truth is, the conditions that allow Bin Laden’s ideology to proliferate still exist. The colonialist Israeli occupation of Palestine still exists. The occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan still exist. The bombing of Libya continues. We do not celebrate those victims of our ‘military humanitarianism’; rather, we completely ignore them.
If Osama Bin Laden was killed today, then is the world a better place? Should we feel safer? I do not feel safer to know that a country with a thousand military bases across the world still holds the arrogant vision of itself as the world’s policeman. I think there is another reason Bin Laden would never be put on trial; perhaps then, we could have found out who he was taking his orders from?
“I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence,” sings rapper Lupe Fiasco on his latest single, ‘Words I Never Said’, “Fear is such a weak emotion that’s why I despise it, we’re scared of almost everything afraid to even tell the truth…”
When will we stop allowing our fears to blind our sense of humanity?
Osama Bin Laden died of natural cause on December 2001. So whom did Obama kill in Pakistan on Sunday 1 May? By Latheef Farook | Sailan Muslim - The Online Resource for Sri Lanka Muslims
Osama Bin Laden died of natural cause on December 2001. So whom did Obama kill in Pakistan on Sunday 1 May?
By Latheef Farook
Posted by Sailanmuslim on May 9, 2011
Top United States’ officials including Madeline Albright said;.
President Barack Obama announced on Monday 2 May 2011 that Osama Bin Laden, founder and leader of Al Qaeda, was killed in an early morning attack by American forces. He said it happened in a housing compound at Abbottabad, a beautiful, green hill city nestled among the mountains, a few hundred yards from the military academy in the suburb of Pakistan’s capital Islamabad.
First think that strikes any knowledgeable person’s mind is the question” is Osama still alive”.There were numerous reports that Bin Laden died in December 2001. As early as 17 December 2003 former US Secretary State Madeline Albright told FOX TV News that Bin Laden was dead. Hameed Gul, retired army General and a former of Pakistan intelligence ISI commander, stated this week that Bin Ladin died way back and was buried in a private place. He added that the intelligence was that the grave was in that compound thus the attack to get the body.
There were even reports of Bin Laden’s funeral in the Egyptian paper “ Al Wafd” and The Observer of Pakistan on 26 December 2001. Following is the translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper:al-Wafd on Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633;
News of Bin Laden's Death and Funeral 10 days ago 26 Dec 2001 Islamabad .
A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa'da organization, stating that bin Laden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death.
The official, who asked to remain anonymous, stated to The Observer of Pakistan that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial in Tora Bora 10 days ago. He mentioned that 30 of al-Qa'da fighters attended the burial as well as members of his family and some friends from the Taleban. In the farewell ceremony to his final rest guns were fired in the air. The official stated that it is difficult to pinpoint the burial location of bin Laden because according to the Wahhabi tradition no mark is left by the grave. He stressed that it is unlikely that the American forces would ever uncover any traces of bin Laden
Lashing out at Obama’s claim as a “sick joke” top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents –Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter-and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show this week that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.
Pieczenik said that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001, “Not because special forces had killed him, but because as a physician I had known ,that the CIA physicians had treated him and it was on the intelligence roster that he had marfan syndrome,” adding that the US government knew Bin Laden was dead before they invaded Afghanistan. He died of Marfan syndrome ,a degenerative genetic disease for which there is no permanent cure. The illness severely shortens the life span of the sufferer.
Dismissing the government’s account of the assassination of Bin Laden as a “sick joke” on the American people, Pieczenik said, “They are so desperate to make Obama viable, to negate the fact that he may not have been born here, any questions about his background, any irregularities about his background, to make him look assertive….to re-elect this president so the American public can be duped once again.”
Pieczenik’s assertion that Bin Laden died almost ten years ago is echoed by numerous intelligence professionals as well as heads of state across the world.
Dismissing Obama’s claim British broadcaster and journalist Yvonne Ridley said” only gullible Americans believe Bin Laden killing. The death of
bin Laden, she suggested, “might just secure Obama’s second term in office, judging from the rather unbridled show of hysteria by the masses gathered in New York's Times Square, Ground Zero and other landmark sites.” According to her in October 2001 the Taliban's foreign minister offered to handover Bin Laden but the “reality is that the US needed an excuse to go into Afghanistan.” “Osama bin Laden provided that reason otherwise they could have avoided the world's costliest manhunt for the last decade, the futile War on Terror and the catastrophic war in Afghanistan which has cost tens of thousands of lives,” .
Challenging Obama’s claim David Ray Griffin had this to say in an article under the headline”Osama Bin Laden: Dead or Alive; in the website “ Global Research”;
We had considerable testimony in 2002, from people in position to know, that bin Laden was dead, or probably so. These people included President Musharraf, Dale Watson, the head of the FBI’s counterterrorism unit and Oliver North, who said: “I'm certain that Osama is dead. And so are all the other guys I stay in touch with”; President Hamid Karzai ; sources within Israeli intelligence, who said that any new messages from bin Laden were “probably fabrications”;
Sources within Pakistani intelligence, which “confirmed the death of Osama Bin Laden” and “attributed the reasons behind Washington's hiding news on the death of Bin Laden to the desire of the hawks of the American administration to use the issue of al-Qaida and international terrorism to invade Iraq.” For this reason, perhaps, the stories about the demise of bin Laden largely came to an end in the latter part of 2002, when the United States was gearing up for its attack on Iraq. From then until now, there have been few such stories.
Recently, however, two former intelligence officers have spoken out. In October 2008, former CIA case officer Robert Baer suggested in passing during an interview on National Public Radio that bin Laden was no longer among the living. When Baer was asked about this, he said: “Of course he’s dead.”
In March 2009, former Foreign Service officer Angelo Codevilla published an essay in the American Spectator entitled “Osama bin Elvis.” Explaining his title,Codevilla wrote: “Seven years after Osama bin Laden's last verifiable appearance among the living, there is more évidence for Elvis's presence among us than for his.”
Columnist Dr. Paul Craig Roberts stated in the website Global Research on 2 May 2011 that “ This morning’s headline has the odor of a staged event. The smell reeks from the triumphalist news reports loaded with exaggerations, from celebrants waving flags and chanting “USA USA.” Could something else be going on?
On top of all people in Abbattobad,where several retired army generals live, dismissed in one voice the claim that Bin Laden lived there.
Under such circumstances the question is how come Obama killed Bin Laden? Was it a mock operation to divert the public attention from Obama’s ever mounting problems within and outside the country?
Why was Bin Laden not arrested? Why was he killed? Why was his dead body not shown to the world as they had done with Saddam Hussein and his sons? Why Osama’s remains were hastily dumped at sea eliminating trace of any evidence?
A senior US Defense official claimed that bin Laden's body was washed and placed in a white sheet, then verses of the Qur'an were cited and the corpse was eased into the North Arabian Sea. Justifying this decision the official added that finding a country willing to accept the remains of Bin Laden was difficult, so the US decided to bury him at sea.
Who was the imam who conducted the funeral prayer? If there was an imam in the naval vessel then it was pre planned. It was disgrace to Muslims worldwide that they could not provide a piece of land to bury Bin Laden’s dead body. A top Sunni cleric Ahmad al-Tayeb, Grand Sheik of al-Azhar in Cairo, has condemned dumping Bin Laden’s body into the sea as a violation of Islamic laws. He said that the dead should be given full respect regardless of their nations or beliefs, adding that a corpse should be respected when it is buried.
Commenting on the disgusting celebrations in America columnist Jody McIntyre said in “Independent.co.uk” that celebrating death is inhuman and there is nothing normal about it. He added that’;
Today, we are celebrating the death of former CIA employee Osama Bin Laden.
Can one man be solely responsible for atrocities that kill thousands of people? As with Saddam Hussein, as with Muammer Gaddafi, the complete dehumanization of Osama Bin Laden as an individual has served as the pretext for the killing of hundreds of thousands of people. If we were to follow the logic that the killing of one man called Bin Laden comprises ‘justice’ for the thousands of victims of 9/11, then what would ‘justice’ for the estimated one million Iraqis killed since the US and British-led invasion of Iraq entail?
The truth is, the conditions that allow Bin Laden’s ideology to proliferate still exist. The colonialist Israeli occupation of Palestine still exists. The occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan still exist. The bombing of Libya continues. We do not celebrate those victims of our ‘military humanitarianism’; rather, we completely ignore them.
If Osama Bin Laden was killed today, then is the world a better place? Should we feel safer? I do not feel safer to know that a country with a thousand military bases across the world still holds the arrogant vision of itself as the world’s policeman. I think there is another reason Bin Laden would never be put on trial; perhaps then, we could have found out who he was taking his orders from?
“I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence,” sings rapper Lupe Fiasco on his latest single, ‘Words I Never Said’, “Fear is such a weak emotion that’s why I despise it, we’re scared of almost everything afraid to even tell the truth…”
When will we stop allowing our fears to blind our sense of humanity?
Osama Bin Laden died of natural cause on December 2001. So whom did Obama kill in Pakistan on Sunday 1 May? By Latheef Farook | Sailan Muslim - The Online Resource for Sri Lanka Muslims
MikeK
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I don't believe this anymore than I believe the 9/11 attack was an "inside job." But I do believe bin Laden was killed rather than captured to silence him, just as Timothy McVeigh's execution took place in record time to silence him. I believe both individuals had much to say which government doesn't want the public thinking about. Specifically, the motives for both actions.
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KissMy
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Where are the DNA test proving it was Osama Bin Ladin who was buried in December 2001? If the body was buried back in 2001, why have the conspiracy nuts not yet dug it up & proved Bush & Obama are lying? Also where is the DNA test proving that was not Osama's blood splattered in the room in Pakistan on Sunday 1 May?
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You obviously did not read Wildcards post just before yours and your also not making any sense whatsoever.If you accept the truth that he was killed just a couple months later after 9/11, then you are acknoweledging that 9/11 was an inside job.
Yes Bin Laden was killed then because yes,just like with Tim Mcveigh and Lee harvery Oswald, he knew too much on who was really behind the attacks. Just like me and Katsu proved,Bin Laden was being set up as a patsy back when Clinton was president which is why like we mentioned,Bushs long time friend Clinton never went after him to capture or kill him because they needed him roaming free to be the future patsy in the case.Oh and here in a short 5 minutes,you can see for yourself the evidence is overwhelming that 9/11 was an inside job.Not one paid agent troll on this site liek Kiss My for instance,has ever tried to debunk it because they know they cant.they always run off with their tail between their legs when confronted with these facts like you will do as well.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/consp...911-conspiracy-theory-in-under-5-minutes.html
something else not covered in that video that should be mentioned is not one of these agent trolls that have penetrated this site ever have an explanation for these facts.In that video they say-the 9/11 commission acted like this guy didnt even exist.
they of course are talking about Barry Jennings.One thing NONE of these agent trolls that have penetrated this site has EVER been able to address and wont is bld 7 which is the crux of the 9/11 commission in the fact that the towers neighbors were MUCH closer to the towers so they had far more extensive damage done to them and far worse fires than bld 7 yet those towers did not collapse but bld 7 did even though it was MUCH further away from them.
NONE of these paid agent trolls here ever have an answer for that and never address that because they know they are cornered and cant counter it so they act like I never even posted this fact just like you will because it proves there was an inside job since barry jeenings that man they are talking about the 9/11 commission said didnt even exist,immediately that day in an interview with reporters talked about hearing explosions in the basement of bld 7 and they occured before the towers fell which shreads to pieces the lies of the NIST report that the debris from the towers caused bld 7 to collapse.
Nobody here has ever been able to get around that fact.thats why Barry Jennings died mysteriously two days before the NIST report came out because his testimony shreads to pieces their lies.The pattern is the same as the kennedy assassination,just like in that case,many people who gave versions different than the governments ended up dying in mysterious deaths.
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as always Wildcard,the Octa's get their asses handed to them on a platter from you.
Even the head of the Pakistani ISI has confessed.wow I did not know about that part,thanks for posting that Wildcard.The paid shills cant get around this post.hee hee.Best post on this by far bar none.
That post mentioned David Ray Griffin,every poster here should read his book DEBUNKING THE 9/11 DEBUNKING,AN ANSWER TO POPULAR MECHANICS AND OTHER DEFENDERS OF THE OFFICIAL CONSPIRACY THEORY.
It shreads to pieces the lies and omissions of the 9/11 coverup commission and NIST.
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So very true Katsung.That is correct that they kept Bin Laden alive for their false flag war on terror.That was why Clinton did not go after him when he had the chance.Bush haters who like Clinton say that Bush ignored warnings that there were going to be terrorists attacks against the united states in the upcoming months and point out correctly that Bush did nothing,that he ignored them and was more interested in taking vacations in texas the first 9 months while president than he was in protecting us which is true but then they always go and make the false claim that Clinton went after Bin Laden like a firestorm but Clinton just missed him when he tried to attack him by a day or so or something like that and they quote these sources below as their evidence.
FactCheck.org : Clinton Passed on Killing bin Laden?
However that link is all a bunch of B.S and lies because its a known fact that 2 different countrys offered Bin Laden up to clinton on a silver platter and he had no interests in him.Matter of fact it was all over the newscasts INITIALLY of a high ranking general in the military coming on CNN being interviewed late at night once "thats how the media operates,they'll show some important information ONCE late at night,and then you never seen them broadcast it again since like in this case,it was not politically correct."
That General came on the nightly news and said that they had Bin Laden cornered and were ready to go in and arrest him and bring him before a court but he said right there live on the newscast that Clinton told them to lay off him and leave him alone.
I remember seeing that right there that very night,I was channel hopping and just happened to come across that and saw it. I was pleased to see Dick Morris write a book about it a few years later because like I said,that news item conveintly disapeared and you never heard anything from the lamestream media about that again after that so I was pleased to see Dick Morris- who served in the Clinton White house, write a book about it and HE even mentioned that point in the book that I remember seeing that night when he wrote the book years later.I read his book and saw where he mentioned that general coming on that nightly newscast and said-Yeah I remember that.I saw him say that that night,I remember that moment."
So yeah,you totally hit the nail right on the head there when you said they kept him alive because they needed him for their phony war on terror and false flag operation. Bin Laden was just like Oswald,a patsy for their war on terror.
Mr Jones hit the nail on the head as well when he mentioned this over on that same thread where I got that link on Clinton when he posted this below.
It is well known that Clinton and Bush Sr. are buddies. This 2 party "system" is BS. the sooner you understand this the better you would realize it is always the people that lose.
Clinton is just as much responsible, and is just as much a shady character as the Bush die nasty family. They both had war mongering Zionists extremists flooding their administrations.
Clinton was not eligible for a 2nd term, so it was up to the incoming Bush presidency to facilitate the events of 9-11, and Gore couldn't be trusted to do it so the 2000 election fiasco
was a crucial step in bringing this treasonous bunch into power.
Its a very well known fact that Clinton has a long standing close friendship with the Bushs that date back to at least the early 80's.
By the way Wildcard,since nobody else has commented on this post of mine except Katsu who is obviously awake,that none of the trolls have dared to tackle it,I would like to hear YOU comment on it,were you aware of these facts mentioned in this post of mine by chance?
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So very true Katsung.That is correct that they kept Bin Laden alive for their false flag war on terror.That was why Clinton did not go after him when he had the chance.Bush haters who like Clinton say that Bush ignored warnings that there were going to be terrorists attacks against the united states in the upcoming months and point out correctly that Bush did nothing,that he ignored them and was more interested in taking vacations in texas the first 9 months while president than he was in protecting us which is true but then they always go and make the false claim that Clinton went after Bin Laden like a firestorm but Clinton just missed him when he tried to attack him by a day or so or something like that and they quote these sources below as their evidence.
FactCheck.org : Clinton Passed on Killing bin Laden?
However that link is all a bunch of B.S and lies because its a known fact that 2 different countrys offered Bin Laden up to clinton on a silver platter and he had no interests in him.Matter of fact it was all over the newscasts INITIALLY of a high ranking general in the military coming on CNN being interviewed late at night once "thats how the media operates,they'll show some important information ONCE late at night,and then you never seen them broadcast it again since like in this case,it was not politically correct."
That General came on the nightly news and said that they had Bin Laden cornered and were ready to go in and arrest him and bring him before a court but he said right there live on the newscast that Clinton told them to lay off him and leave him alone.
I remember seeing that right there that very night,I was channel hopping and just happened to come across that and saw it. I was pleased to see Dick Morris write a book about it a few years later because like I said,that news item conveintly disapeared and you never heard anything from the lamestream media about that again after that so I was pleased to see Dick Morris- who served in the Clinton White house, write a book about it and HE even mentioned that point in the book that I remember seeing that night when he wrote the book years later.I read his book and saw where he mentioned that general coming on that nightly newscast and said-Yeah I remember that.I saw him say that that night,I remember that moment."
So yeah,you totally hit the nail right on the head there when you said they kept him alive because they needed him for their phony war on terror and false flag operation. Bin Laden was just like Oswald,a patsy for their war on terror.
Mr Jones hit the nail on the head as well when he mentioned this over on that same thread where I got that link on Clinton when he posted this below.
It is well known that Clinton and Bush Sr. are buddies. This 2 party "system" is BS. the sooner you understand this the better you would realize it is always the people that lose.
Clinton is just as much responsible, and is just as much a shady character as the Bush die nasty family. They both had war mongering Zionists extremists flooding their administrations.
Clinton was not eligible for a 2nd term, so it was up to the incoming Bush presidency to facilitate the events of 9-11, and Gore couldn't be trusted to do it so the 2000 election fiasco
was a crucial step in bringing this treasonous bunch into power.
Its a very well known fact that Clinton has a long standing close friendship with the Bushs that date back to at least the early 80's.
I will agree with you in saying that the war on terror is fake, but I do not agree that Bin Laden was kept alive all those years, just to keep the fake war on terror going. Osama Bin Laden did die in December 2001. The Bush Admin., knew that he died in December 2001. They just kept the idea, the thought of that Osama Bin Laden is still alive and is still a threat. They needed the American people to believe the lie that Osama Bin Laden was still alive, and it worked.
Were you aware that the US Government kept Osama Bin Laden's corpse on ice, how else do you explain the rapid DNA results in less than 24hrs?
Inside Sources: Bin LadenÂ’s Corpse Has Been On Ice For Nearly a Decade
Paul Joseph Watson
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May 2, 2011
A multitude of different inside sources both publicly and privately, including one individual who personally worked with Bin Laden at one time, told us directly that Osama’s dead corpse has been on ice for nearly a decade and that his “death” would only be announced at the most politically expedient time.
That time has now come with a years-old fake picture being presented as the only evidence of his alleged killing yesterday, while Bin LadenÂ’s body has been hastily dumped into the sea to prevent anyone from finding out when he actually died.
In April 2002, over nine years ago, Council on Foreign Relations member Steve R. Pieczenik, who served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, and James Baker, told the Alex Jones Show that Bin Laden had already been “dead for months”.
Pieczenik would be in a position to know such information, having worked directly with Bin Laden when the US was funding and arming the terror leader in an attempt to drive the Soviets out of Afghanistan in the late 70′s and early 80′s (a documented historical fact that talking heads in the corporate media are actually denying today in light of developments).
“I found out through my sources that he had had kidney disease. And as a physician, I knew that he had to have two dialysis machines and he was dying,” Pieczenik told Jones during the April 24, 2002 interview.
“And you could see those in those films, those made-up photos that they were sending us out of nowhere. I mean, suddenly, we would see a video of bin Laden today and then out of nowhere, they said oh it was sent to us anonymously, meaning that someone in the government, our government, was trying to keep up the morale on our side and say oh we still have to chase this guy when, in fact, he’s been dead for months,” added Pieczenik.
Pieczenik then stated that the video tape of a fat Bin Laden look alike “taking responsibility” for 9/11 that was released in December 2001 was “such a hoax” designed to “manipulate” people in the emotional aftermath of 9/11.
The subsequent war in Afghanistan that followed 9/11 was orchestrated “With the agreement of the bin Laden family, knowing fully well that he would die,” said Pieczenik. “And I think that Musharraf, the President of Pakistan, spilled the beans by accident three months ago when he said that bin Laden was dead because his kidney dialysis machines were destroyed in East Afghanistan.”
In addition to Pieczenik, as we reported in August 2002, Alex Jones was separately told by a high level Republican source that Bin Laden was dead and that his body was being kept “on ice” until Osama’s death could be announced at the most “politically expedient” time.
When Jones asked the source if his claim was mere speculation or whether it was actually true, the source re-iterated the fact that he was being deadly serious and that Bin Laden’s corpse was “physically on ice” waiting to be rolled out for public consumption at the most opportune moment.
Many expected that moment to be right before the 2004 election, but after Democrats began speculating about the possibility, Republicans settled instead for a fake Osama video tape that was released on the eve of the election and, according to both George W. Bush and John Kerry, was the deciding factor in a closely-fought contest. Veteran news reader Walter Cronkite labeled the entire farce a Karl Rove-orchestrated “set-up”.
In addition to these sources, a deluge of other heads of state as well as intelligence agency professionals have gone on record over the past nine years to state their belief that Bin Laden was likely dead, after it became clear that the Al-Qaeda leaderÂ’s health was in severe decline as a result of kidney disease at the end of 2001. These include;
- Former CIA officer and hugely respected intelligence & foreign policy expert Robert Baer, who in 2008 when asked about Bin Laden by a radio host responded, “Of course he is dead.”
- On December 26, 2001, Fox News, citing a Pakistan Observer story, reported that the Afghan Taliban had pronounced Bin Laden dead and buried him in an unmarked grave.
- On January 18, 2002, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf announced: “I think now, frankly, he is dead.”
- On July 17, 2002, the then-head of counterterrorism at the FBI, Dale Watson, told a conference of law enforcement officials that “I personally think he [Bin Laden] is probably not with us anymore.”
- In October 2002, Afghan President Hamid Karzai told CNN that “I would come to believe that [Bin Laden] probably is dead.
- In 2003, former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright told Fox News Channel analyst Morton Kondracke she suspected Bush knew the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden and was waiting for the most politically expedient moment to announce his capture.
- In November 2005, Senator Harry Reid revealed that he was told Osama may have died in the Pakistani earthquake of October that year.
- In February 2007, Professor Bruce Lawrence, head of Duke UniversityÂ’s Religious Studies program, stated that the purported video and audio tapes that were being released of Bin Laden were fake and that he was probably dead.
- On November 2, 2007, former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto told Al-JazeeraÂ’s David Frost that Omar Sheikh had killed Osama Bin Laden.
- In March 2009, former US foreign intelligence officer and professor of international relations at Boston University Angelo Codevilla stated: “All the evidence suggests Elvis Presley is more alive today than Osama Bin Laden.”
- In May 2009, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari confirmed that his “counterparts in the American intelligence agencies” hadn’t heard anything from Bin Laden in seven years and confirmed “I don’t think he’s alive.”
In a way, the establishment had their hand forced in having to announce the death of someone whose shadowy existence had proven very useful to them in maintaining fear and uncertainty amongst the population of America and the world.
The fact that the myth behind Al-Qaeda has been completely demolished and that the group, through a myriad of revelations, including Anwar Al-AlawkiÂ’s post-9/11 visit to the Pentagon, is now widely known to be a US intelligence front, perhaps now means that Al-Qaeda will be swept under the rug and a new enemy will be invented in order to legitimize the continued US military-complex domination of the globe.
» Inside Sources: Bin Laden’s Corpse Has Been On Ice For Nearly a Decade Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
You are right about the Bushes and the Clintons, those two families are VERY close.
MikeK
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I've noticed those who believe the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center was an "inside job" tend to focus their attention on motive and conspiratory factors but ignore what would be the nuts & bolts of such an enormous undertaking.
I suspect the reason for avoiding discussion of the material factors of the task is complete ignorance of controlled demolition methods. Because anyone who does understand what would be required to surreptitiously carry out a methodical destruction of that magnitude would not for one moment believe bringing down the Twin Towers could possibly have been an "inside job."
First of all, there are only two demolition contractors in the entire world who are capable of handling a project of that size, which is greater than any controlled demolition in the history of the craft by a factor of hundreds, and the idea that either of them could be somehow encouraged to engage in something so bizarre is utterly absurd. Even if a crew of dedicated terrorists could be assembled and trained to carry out such a monumental task, the World Trade Center complex was protected by an exceptionally efficient security force headed by a former FBI Terrorist Task Force member. All contractors working in or about the buildings were screened and accounted for.
To rig just one Tower for demolition would take at least six sappers working for several days. It would involve placement of explosive charges connected by a wiring network running throughout the service corridors, every bit of which would be conspicuously visible to dozens of regular tradesmen, electricians, carpenters, tinsmiths, plumbers, painters, etc., who moved about in those corridors on a daily basis -- not to mention the routine security patrols. To consider that no one would ask questions about such activities is another absurdity.
I have no doubt the World Trade Center "inside job" theories were inspired by the perfectly vertical manner in which both Towers collapsed. They came down exactly like buildings we've all seen come down in televised documentaries of controlled demolitions. There is a perfectly reasonable explanation for that phenomenon, but rather than waste time and space explaining it here an important question must be considered: If the objective of bringing the Twin Towers down was to cause massive damage, why take the time and go through the trouble, risk, and expense of effecting a controlled demolition? Why not just place a single toppling charge, such as the one placed in Tower One by Ramseh Yousef in 1993? That charge was a bit too small and it was not properly positioned or it would have done the job. A slight adjustment in size and positioning would easily have caused the building to topple, wreaking massive damage on the entire neighborhood of lower Manhattan. The very notion of a controlled demolition is in fact counterproductive to the objective of the 9/11 attack.
So these critical details, all of which are carefully and purposefully ignored in the "inside job" conspiracy theories, make it clear that it is not only unlikely that the 9/11 attack was an inside job -- it is quite impossible.
I suspect the reason for avoiding discussion of the material factors of the task is complete ignorance of controlled demolition methods. Because anyone who does understand what would be required to surreptitiously carry out a methodical destruction of that magnitude would not for one moment believe bringing down the Twin Towers could possibly have been an "inside job."
First of all, there are only two demolition contractors in the entire world who are capable of handling a project of that size, which is greater than any controlled demolition in the history of the craft by a factor of hundreds, and the idea that either of them could be somehow encouraged to engage in something so bizarre is utterly absurd. Even if a crew of dedicated terrorists could be assembled and trained to carry out such a monumental task, the World Trade Center complex was protected by an exceptionally efficient security force headed by a former FBI Terrorist Task Force member. All contractors working in or about the buildings were screened and accounted for.
To rig just one Tower for demolition would take at least six sappers working for several days. It would involve placement of explosive charges connected by a wiring network running throughout the service corridors, every bit of which would be conspicuously visible to dozens of regular tradesmen, electricians, carpenters, tinsmiths, plumbers, painters, etc., who moved about in those corridors on a daily basis -- not to mention the routine security patrols. To consider that no one would ask questions about such activities is another absurdity.
I have no doubt the World Trade Center "inside job" theories were inspired by the perfectly vertical manner in which both Towers collapsed. They came down exactly like buildings we've all seen come down in televised documentaries of controlled demolitions. There is a perfectly reasonable explanation for that phenomenon, but rather than waste time and space explaining it here an important question must be considered: If the objective of bringing the Twin Towers down was to cause massive damage, why take the time and go through the trouble, risk, and expense of effecting a controlled demolition? Why not just place a single toppling charge, such as the one placed in Tower One by Ramseh Yousef in 1993? That charge was a bit too small and it was not properly positioned or it would have done the job. A slight adjustment in size and positioning would easily have caused the building to topple, wreaking massive damage on the entire neighborhood of lower Manhattan. The very notion of a controlled demolition is in fact counterproductive to the objective of the 9/11 attack.
So these critical details, all of which are carefully and purposefully ignored in the "inside job" conspiracy theories, make it clear that it is not only unlikely that the 9/11 attack was an inside job -- it is quite impossible.
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Stupid question. They couldn't lead a plane to hit WTC at the bottom where there are so many high buildings aroud them. The stage show of collapse must be from the top where the building was impacted by the plane. So they had to play it in a self demolishing. The perpetrators was not stupid enough to plan a plane to hit the top then explode the WTC with a single charge on the bottom to your ecnomic design. It doesn't make sense.
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