NYC set to settle suit over making Money slim women remove hijab for mugshot photos

[Coyote]

Silly bit of rightist outrage. Hijab doesn’t cover the face, only the hair, and this applies to all people who wear a head cover for religious reasons such as orthodox Jewish women. If the argument is you need to see their hair to identify them…what about people who shave their heads?

 

[Coyote]

Or not--to conceal her identity. In the age of identifying as any gender or ethnicity that you desire, LE won't be able to positively identify anyone.

It is a reasonable religious accommodation as long as the face is clear.

 

[BackAgain]

Silly bit of rightist outrage. Hijab doesn’t cover the face, only the hair,

False. It depends on the specific culture and how the hijab is worn.

and this applies to all people who wear a head cover for religious reasons such as orthodox Jewish women.

No. It doesn’t; except for those that cover the face.

If the argument is you need to see their hair to identify them…what about people who shave their heads?

I never suggested anything about needing to see the hair for an ID. So much for your fallacious argument.

 

[Concerned American]

It is a reasonable religious accommodation as long as the face is clear.

Unless its a man in there.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

the hijab is a sign of subservience to Muslim men

Michelle looks unhappy about it

Nancy loves it
so does Hillary

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[Coyote]

False. It depends on the specific culture and how the hijab is worn.

False. You are thinking of a niqab, a different head covering than hijab.

Explainer: Hijab, Niqab, Burqa, the different Islamic clothing for women

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No. It doesn’t; except for those that cover the face.

Of course it does. It doesn’t grant any exception that allows the face to be covered, only head coverings and it isn’t specific to any one religion. There ARE other religions that mandate head coverings for women you know.

From your article:

In response to the lawsuit, New York's police department agreed in 2020 to let men and women wear head coverings during mugshots, so long as their faces could be seen.​

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"This settlement resulted in a positive reform for the NYPD," said Nicholas Paolucci, a spokesman for the city's law department. "The agreement carefully balances the department's respect for firmly held religious beliefs with the important law enforcement need to take arrest photos."​

I never suggested anything about needing to see the hair for an ID. So much for your fallacious argument.

I don’t think I said you did, so what difference does it make if they have a hijab?

 

[Coyote]

False. It depends on the specific culture and how the hijab is worn.

False. You are thinking of a niqab, a different head covering than hijab.

Explainer: Hijab, Niqab, Burqa, the different Islamic clothing for women

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No. It doesn’t; except for those that cover the face.

Of course it does. It doesn’t grant any exception that allows the face to be covered, only head coverings and it isn’t specific to any one religion.

I never suggested anything about needing to see the hair for an ID. So much for your fallacious argument.

 

[jackflash]

This one is too stupid to believe.

NYC to pay $17.5M for forcing Muslim women to remove hijabs for mugshot

The city of New York has agreed to settle a class action lawsuit of $17.5 million for forcing people to remove their hijabs for mugshots photos after being arrested.

www.foxnews.com

What’s the purpose of a mug shot that hides the face?

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Now granted, ^ that’s a burka.

But if a Muslim woman wants to wear a hijab, some of them conceal the face, not just the hair.

Not all guys can land a fox so what's wrong with covering the ones too homely for public display?

 

[BackAgain]

False. You are thinking of a niqab, a different head covering than hijab.

Explainer: Hijab, Niqab, Burqa, the different Islamic clothing for women

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Of course it does. It doesn’t grant any exception that allows the face to be covered, only head coverings and it isn’t specific to any one religion. There ARE other religions that mandate head coverings for women you know.

From your article:

In response to the lawsuit, New York's police department agreed in 2020 to let men and women wear head coverings during mugshots, so long as their faces could be seen.​

​

"This settlement resulted in a positive reform for the NYPD," said Nicholas Paolucci, a spokesman for the city's law department. "The agreement carefully balances the department's respect for firmly held religious beliefs with the important law enforcement need to take arrest photos."​

I don’t think I said you did, so what difference does it make if they have a hijab?

Nope. I’m thinking (as I noted in my OP) of the hijab. While it is true that they normally cover the hair and maybe the shoulder, they can also cover the face.

From ‘hijab’ ban to mandatory face covering

Hijab is the face-covering traditionally worn by many Muslim women. However, legislation against ‘hijab’ (face veils) has grown increasingly common in Europe. It started with France which in 2011…

archive.siasat.com

The "hijab" as a headscarf can come in several different types, such as an ordinary veil (which only covers the head), a niqab, a burka also known as an abayah, which covers the entire body, and any form of covering used to veil.[11] There are many styles to wear.

Hijab - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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[Clipper]

Reports indicate that the suspect may have two eyes.

Assbleed over that case?

Reports indicate that you're another Ken Drama Queen.

 

[BackAgain]

Not all guys can land a fox so what's wrong with covering the ones too homely for public display?

Huh?

 

[BackAgain]

Assbleed over that case?

Reports indicate that you're another Ken Drama Queen.

You’re in full babble and retard mode.

Not that you have any choice

 

[Resnic]

Don't want to take off the hijab? Then don't do things that get you arrested where you have to take it off.

That person is in America now, not some middle eastern shit hole. Here you follow rules in America, if you don't like them then don't come here.

Besides why even take a mugshot if all you're going to do is take a pic of a sheet?

This shit is ridiculous when criminals can comitt crimes then sue the cops when they get in trouble. She got rich by breaking the law, then further refusing to follow orders.

 

[Coyote]

Nope. I’m thinking (as I noted in my OP) of the hijab. While it is true that they normally cover the hair and maybe the shoulder, they can also cover the face.

From ‘hijab’ ban to mandatory face covering

Hijab is the face-covering traditionally worn by many Muslim women. However, legislation against ‘hijab’ (face veils) has grown increasingly common in Europe. It started with France which in 2011…

archive.siasat.com

Hijab - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

simple.m.wikipedia.org

Well, we have contradictory information and we are both correct. That said it's a moot point since specifically stated the face has to be visible. Remind me...why the outrage?

 

[BackAgain]

Well, we have contradictory information and we are both correct. That said it's a moot point since specifically stated the face has to be visible. Remind me...why the outrage?

Remind me. Who says I am or have expressed any “outrage?”

 

[Coyote]

Remind me. Who says I am or have expressed any “outrage?”

Let me tephrase it then: why is it "too stupid" to believe?

 

[BackAgain]

Let me tephrase it then: why is it "too stupid" to believe?

Because it makes absolutely no sense to take any mugshot wherein the subject’s face is covered.

 

[Coyote]

Because it makes absolutely no sense to take any mugshot wherein the subject’s face is covered.

That is not what your article said.

 

[BackAgain]

That is not what your article said.

As I pointed out to all, the meaning of hijab can include face covering.

 

[Coyote]

As I pointed out to all, the meaning of hijab can include face covering.

You are overlooking the fact they specifically stated head coverings will be allowed as long as you can still see the face…i.e. no burkas please.