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Oh please!

the whole October Surprise stinks of rotten eggs!

First, Giuliani has had the laptop since July of 2019....
Why didn't he give it to AG Barr? That is what a law abiding citizen would do.

And Barr is in the bag for Trump, so there would be no reason not to do this...

And then, why in the hell would this computer shop owner, decide to give this lap top to Giuliani.... of all people??? Seriously!!!


Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!


And then you have the impeachment, with Giuliani head deep in the shenanigans back in the late summer and fall of 2019....while he had the laptop already? And didn't come to the defense of Trump, in the impeachment nor the impeachment trial????

come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!! wake up!

And then we have the year long investigation in the Senate on it..... and the R Senate investigation in to the Hunter/Joe thingy and they supposedly have the lap top, and then clear Joe Biden of any wrong doing, though lots of negative on Hunter?

and this shop owner is allegedly legally blind so he doesn't know who dropped the laptop off, yet he says he called the person to come pick it up, and another yet, is he claims he saw something disturbing so he gave a copy to the FBI, but when questioned about child porn on the lapto this guy claims "He saw NONE of that..."?

So why did he give the laptop copy to the FBI?

And what was he doing snooping through Hunter Biden's lap top in the first place? That's NOT part of retrieving a hard drive.....? So what was it specifically that made him give a copy to the FBI and then out of the blue, choose Rudy Giuliani to give it to?

And this guy did not see child porn, and is legally blind, additionally an excuse for not knowing who dropped off the laptop, yet he sees well enough to read Hunter's emails and see something to make him want to turn the coPy of the laptop to the FBI?

Then Giuliani holds on to ALL OF THIS INFO, letting the alleged child sex abuse continue on and on and on and on, while he holds on to the laptop for over a year's time, without giving it to AG BARR,

only to drop the laptop in to the new National Enquirer helper for Trump, the New York Post tabloid, to drop the story two weeks out from the election.... and Giuliani says he gave it to the tabloid because he was afraid a legitimate news paper would be required to check the sources BEFORE printing the story,and 'this would be too late'..... too late to serve HIS PURPOSE of an October surprise.....

Come onnnnnnnnnnnn again!

Sorry, this stinks to high heaven of trumpery!
Your timeline is wrong. Want to try to not spin nonsense?

The FBI was given the hard drive in December after they subpoened it---------which means Barr would have or should have been informed then---but the clinton corrupt FBI sat on and hid this evidence even though Trump was being impeached over Burisma and the computer held evidence that was pertinent to the hearing. Guilliani wasn't informed of the computer till this year-------after the FBI had the computer.
Nope! That's all fake news dear one! The shop owner said he gave the laptop to the FBI after Hunter did not show up to pick it up..... that was early summer 2019? so is the story changing?

And then the subpoena that is showing by the GatewayPundit as a subpoena for Hunter Biden to show up at a grand jury, DOES NOT HAVE HUNTER'S NAME ON IT..... whomever was being subpoenaed...the name was blacked out.... the one that is claimed to have some agent named Wilson bled thru on it ....who works on child sex trafficking.....does not name Biden as the person being subpoenaed, and does not say that the person being subpoenaed has to bring any electronic data with him, as claimed by the GatewayPundit......

Snowflakes are being snowed!
NONSENSE---you desperately spinning bS.

April of 2019...computers (3) were brought in for repair. ONly one of the computers was left. AFTER the repairs, the owner of the computer have 45 days after being notified to come get their computer minimum by law. Most computer repair shops give longer periods to try to get their money. Once the owners do not show up--then the computer becomes the repairman---so you are talking atleast JUNE before the repair guy could even go through the computer's private emails/photos etc. "AFTER HUNTER DID not show up to pick up the computer" means MONTHS LATER,

According to the repairman, he then contacts a friend about what he found--and the friend contacted the FBI....who then in DECEMBER subpoened the computer.

The only problem with your post is you skip Guilliani who has been digging dirt against Biden working with Russian agents Derkach and Tekizhenko who just get banned from entering US by the state department.

Guilliani has a very long and good relationship with Fox News. It’s shocking and wondering why Fox News didn’t take this emails scandals against Biden? Instead he went to a NY Post a tabloid. Then stupid enough to admit that a legitimate news media will question him.
Maybe Guilliani knew something at the POST or maybe given all the smears by libs about Fox---he thought that it would have more impact coming from them instead of Fox. Or it could be that maybe the reporter as able to get information that guilliani wasn't and hence wrote his own story. This is a question that Guilliani should be asked though-------
But he went to less credible tabloid media. He even admitted he will get less question or less challenges using NYP tabloid.
All these doesn’t make sense.
Libs have smeared Fox as Faux so going for the POST does make sense ---because the libs aren't sure how to attack this. Plus it is likely that Guilliani knows someone at the post who makes him feel more comfortable.
TURTLE...... Why are you blaming the libs of an action that was done by your Russian assets Giuliani? We didn’t tell him to go to New York post or anywhere. We have nothing to do with any of that but let me update you just incase you don’t know what is going on.

He went NY Post because it’s a lot less scrutiny and it’s the only outlet that takes this story.

But even Fox News turned it down the story of Giuliani because of credibility and not properly vetted. Here’s the link.


Fox News passed on Hunter Biden email story amid credibility concerns

Fox News reportedly declined the chance to run Rudy Giuliani’s Hunter Biden emails story amid reported concerns on its credibility.

The Rupert Murdoch-owned news channel was offered the story by Donald Trump’s personal lawyer but refused it until it could be properly vetted, according to political news site mediaite.com.

Another braindead Liberal holding on by his fingernails.



"...the e-mail showing that Hunter and Jim Biden, Joe’s brother, were part of a group trying to set up a partnership with Chinese individuals, involving energy projects and perhaps American infrastructure. Millions of dollars were being discussed, making the deal a windfall for the Bidens and a propaganda coup for China.


The e-mail, sent from one of the American partners to Hunter and two others, detailed large cash payments to the partners as well as eventual equity stakes. Hunter, referred to as “H,” was to get 20 percent, and the deal listed “10 Jim” and “10 held by H for the big guy?”

Sources have confirmed to Fox News that the “big guy” was Joe Biden. I have been told by another person with knowledge of the arrangement that there are documents and other proof of Joe Biden’s involvement."

nypost.com


Hey, Joe Biden, what did you know about Hunter’s dirty deals?: Goodwin
Now that some secrets of the Biden family business are no longer secrets, it’s easy to imagine Joe Biden asking the same question Robert Redford asked in the 1972 film “The Candidate.” After winnin…
nypost.com

nypost.com

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Not......what was that about "unraveling"??????
First 2 sentences alone is just a waste of my time reading the rest of your post. Your post has NOTHING to do what I was talking about ............ why that Russian assets Giuliani went to NY post instead of Fox News. Go back and TRY AGAIN.


Everyone knows it's true, and proof of what was revealed months back.


Now....what is it that makes Hunter Biden, crack-addict, ne'er-do-well, with no experience in gas or oil, kicked out of the Navy, never visited the Ukraine....worth millions and billions?



Interesting that when Biden was VP, he and his son Hunter went to deal with China, and Hunter came away with $millions.....

But Trump is immune to the bribes.


"The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China
In 2013, then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden flew aboard Air Force Two to China. Less than two weeks later, Hunter Biden’s firm inked a $1 billion private equity deal with a subsidiary of the Chinese government’s Bank of China. The deal was later expanded to $1.5 billion. In short, the Chinese government funded a business that it co-owned along with the son of a sitting vice president."
The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China


Sounds a lot like the $145 million Putin gave the Clintons.




The irony is astounding.....for years it was the lie that Trump was a Russian asset.....



......now we have proof......PROOF......that the Democrat candidate is a Russian, Ukrainian, Chinese employee.
Try again.
 

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Oh please!

the whole October Surprise stinks of rotten eggs!

First, Giuliani has had the laptop since July of 2019....
Why didn't he give it to AG Barr? That is what a law abiding citizen would do.

And Barr is in the bag for Trump, so there would be no reason not to do this...

And then, why in the hell would this computer shop owner, decide to give this lap top to Giuliani.... of all people??? Seriously!!!


Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!


And then you have the impeachment, with Giuliani head deep in the shenanigans back in the late summer and fall of 2019....while he had the laptop already? And didn't come to the defense of Trump, in the impeachment nor the impeachment trial????

come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!! wake up!

And then we have the year long investigation in the Senate on it..... and the R Senate investigation in to the Hunter/Joe thingy and they supposedly have the lap top, and then clear Joe Biden of any wrong doing, though lots of negative on Hunter?

and this shop owner is allegedly legally blind so he doesn't know who dropped the laptop off, yet he says he called the person to come pick it up, and another yet, is he claims he saw something disturbing so he gave a copy to the FBI, but when questioned about child porn on the lapto this guy claims "He saw NONE of that..."?

So why did he give the laptop copy to the FBI?

And what was he doing snooping through Hunter Biden's lap top in the first place? That's NOT part of retrieving a hard drive.....? So what was it specifically that made him give a copy to the FBI and then out of the blue, choose Rudy Giuliani to give it to?

And this guy did not see child porn, and is legally blind, additionally an excuse for not knowing who dropped off the laptop, yet he sees well enough to read Hunter's emails and see something to make him want to turn the coPy of the laptop to the FBI?

Then Giuliani holds on to ALL OF THIS INFO, letting the alleged child sex abuse continue on and on and on and on, while he holds on to the laptop for over a year's time, without giving it to AG BARR,

only to drop the laptop in to the new National Enquirer helper for Trump, the New York Post tabloid, to drop the story two weeks out from the election.... and Giuliani says he gave it to the tabloid because he was afraid a legitimate news paper would be required to check the sources BEFORE printing the story,and 'this would be too late'..... too late to serve HIS PURPOSE of an October surprise.....

Come onnnnnnnnnnnn again!

Sorry, this stinks to high heaven of trumpery!
Your timeline is wrong. Want to try to not spin nonsense?

The FBI was given the hard drive in December after they subpoened it---------which means Barr would have or should have been informed then---but the clinton corrupt FBI sat on and hid this evidence even though Trump was being impeached over Burisma and the computer held evidence that was pertinent to the hearing. Guilliani wasn't informed of the computer till this year-------after the FBI had the computer.
Nope! That's all fake news dear one! The shop owner said he gave the laptop to the FBI after Hunter did not show up to pick it up..... that was early summer 2019? so is the story changing?

And then the subpoena that is showing by the GatewayPundit as a subpoena for Hunter Biden to show up at a grand jury, DOES NOT HAVE HUNTER'S NAME ON IT..... whomever was being subpoenaed...the name was blacked out.... the one that is claimed to have some agent named Wilson bled thru on it ....who works on child sex trafficking.....does not name Biden as the person being subpoenaed, and does not say that the person being subpoenaed has to bring any electronic data with him, as claimed by the GatewayPundit......

Snowflakes are being snowed!
NONSENSE---you desperately spinning bS.

April of 2019...computers (3) were brought in for repair. ONly one of the computers was left. AFTER the repairs, the owner of the computer have 45 days after being notified to come get their computer minimum by law. Most computer repair shops give longer periods to try to get their money. Once the owners do not show up--then the computer becomes the repairman---so you are talking atleast JUNE before the repair guy could even go through the computer's private emails/photos etc. "AFTER HUNTER DID not show up to pick up the computer" means MONTHS LATER,

According to the repairman, he then contacts a friend about what he found--and the friend contacted the FBI....who then in DECEMBER subpoened the computer.

The only problem with your post is you skip Guilliani who has been digging dirt against Biden working with Russian agents Derkach and Tekizhenko who just get banned from entering US by the state department.

Guilliani has a very long and good relationship with Fox News. It’s shocking and wondering why Fox News didn’t take this emails scandals against Biden? Instead he went to a NY Post a tabloid. Then stupid enough to admit that a legitimate news media will question him.
Maybe Guilliani knew something at the POST or maybe given all the smears by libs about Fox---he thought that it would have more impact coming from them instead of Fox. Or it could be that maybe the reporter as able to get information that guilliani wasn't and hence wrote his own story. This is a question that Guilliani should be asked though-------
But he went to less credible tabloid media. He even admitted he will get less question or less challenges using NYP tabloid.
All these doesn’t make sense.
Libs have smeared Fox as Faux so going for the POST does make sense ---because the libs aren't sure how to attack this. Plus it is likely that Guilliani knows someone at the post who makes him feel more comfortable.
TURTLE...... Why are you blaming the libs of an action that was done by your Russian assets Giuliani? We didn’t tell him to go to New York post or anywhere. We have nothing to do with any of that but let me update you just incase you don’t know what is going on.

He went NY Post because it’s a lot less scrutiny and it’s the only outlet that takes this story.

But even Fox News turned it down the story of Giuliani because of credibility and not properly vetted. Here’s the link.


Fox News passed on Hunter Biden email story amid credibility concerns

Fox News reportedly declined the chance to run Rudy Giuliani’s Hunter Biden emails story amid reported concerns on its credibility.

The Rupert Murdoch-owned news channel was offered the story by Donald Trump’s personal lawyer but refused it until it could be properly vetted, according to political news site mediaite.com.

Another braindead Liberal holding on by his fingernails.



"...the e-mail showing that Hunter and Jim Biden, Joe’s brother, were part of a group trying to set up a partnership with Chinese individuals, involving energy projects and perhaps American infrastructure. Millions of dollars were being discussed, making the deal a windfall for the Bidens and a propaganda coup for China.


The e-mail, sent from one of the American partners to Hunter and two others, detailed large cash payments to the partners as well as eventual equity stakes. Hunter, referred to as “H,” was to get 20 percent, and the deal listed “10 Jim” and “10 held by H for the big guy?”

Sources have confirmed to Fox News that the “big guy” was Joe Biden. I have been told by another person with knowledge of the arrangement that there are documents and other proof of Joe Biden’s involvement."

nypost.com


Hey, Joe Biden, what did you know about Hunter’s dirty deals?: Goodwin
Now that some secrets of the Biden family business are no longer secrets, it’s easy to imagine Joe Biden asking the same question Robert Redford asked in the 1972 film “The Candidate.” After winnin…
nypost.com

nypost.com

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Not......what was that about "unraveling"??????
First 2 sentences alone is just a waste of my time reading the rest of your post. Your post has NOTHING to do what I was talking about ............ why that Russian assets Giuliani went to NY post instead of Fox News. Go back and TRY AGAIN.


Again?????

Sure thing.....


U.S. banking records show Hunter Biden’s American-based firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, received regular transfers into one of its accounts — usually more than $166,000 a month — from Burisma from spring 2014 through fall 2015, during a period when Vice President Biden was the main U.S. official dealing with Ukraine and its tense relations with Russia.

The timing of Hunter Biden’s and Archer’s appointment to Burisma’s board has been highlighted in the past, by The New York Times in December 2015 and in a 2016 book by conservative author Peter Schweizer.

The bank records show that, on most months when Burisma money flowed, two wire transfers of $83,333.33 each were sent to the Rosemont Seneca–connected account on the same day. The same Rosemont Seneca–linked account typically then would pay Hunter Biden one or more payments ranging from $5,000 to $25,000 each. Prosecutors reviewed internal company documents and wanted to interview Hunter Biden and Archer about why they had received such payments, according to interviews.”
 

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Oh please!

the whole October Surprise stinks of rotten eggs!

First, Giuliani has had the laptop since July of 2019....
Why didn't he give it to AG Barr? That is what a law abiding citizen would do.

And Barr is in the bag for Trump, so there would be no reason not to do this...

And then, why in the hell would this computer shop owner, decide to give this lap top to Giuliani.... of all people??? Seriously!!!


Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!


And then you have the impeachment, with Giuliani head deep in the shenanigans back in the late summer and fall of 2019....while he had the laptop already? And didn't come to the defense of Trump, in the impeachment nor the impeachment trial????

come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!! wake up!

And then we have the year long investigation in the Senate on it..... and the R Senate investigation in to the Hunter/Joe thingy and they supposedly have the lap top, and then clear Joe Biden of any wrong doing, though lots of negative on Hunter?

and this shop owner is allegedly legally blind so he doesn't know who dropped the laptop off, yet he says he called the person to come pick it up, and another yet, is he claims he saw something disturbing so he gave a copy to the FBI, but when questioned about child porn on the lapto this guy claims "He saw NONE of that..."?

So why did he give the laptop copy to the FBI?

And what was he doing snooping through Hunter Biden's lap top in the first place? That's NOT part of retrieving a hard drive.....? So what was it specifically that made him give a copy to the FBI and then out of the blue, choose Rudy Giuliani to give it to?

And this guy did not see child porn, and is legally blind, additionally an excuse for not knowing who dropped off the laptop, yet he sees well enough to read Hunter's emails and see something to make him want to turn the coPy of the laptop to the FBI?

Then Giuliani holds on to ALL OF THIS INFO, letting the alleged child sex abuse continue on and on and on and on, while he holds on to the laptop for over a year's time, without giving it to AG BARR,

only to drop the laptop in to the new National Enquirer helper for Trump, the New York Post tabloid, to drop the story two weeks out from the election.... and Giuliani says he gave it to the tabloid because he was afraid a legitimate news paper would be required to check the sources BEFORE printing the story,and 'this would be too late'..... too late to serve HIS PURPOSE of an October surprise.....

Come onnnnnnnnnnnn again!

Sorry, this stinks to high heaven of trumpery!
Your timeline is wrong. Want to try to not spin nonsense?

The FBI was given the hard drive in December after they subpoened it---------which means Barr would have or should have been informed then---but the clinton corrupt FBI sat on and hid this evidence even though Trump was being impeached over Burisma and the computer held evidence that was pertinent to the hearing. Guilliani wasn't informed of the computer till this year-------after the FBI had the computer.
Nope! That's all fake news dear one! The shop owner said he gave the laptop to the FBI after Hunter did not show up to pick it up..... that was early summer 2019? so is the story changing?

And then the subpoena that is showing by the GatewayPundit as a subpoena for Hunter Biden to show up at a grand jury, DOES NOT HAVE HUNTER'S NAME ON IT..... whomever was being subpoenaed...the name was blacked out.... the one that is claimed to have some agent named Wilson bled thru on it ....who works on child sex trafficking.....does not name Biden as the person being subpoenaed, and does not say that the person being subpoenaed has to bring any electronic data with him, as claimed by the GatewayPundit......

Snowflakes are being snowed!
NONSENSE---you desperately spinning bS.

April of 2019...computers (3) were brought in for repair. ONly one of the computers was left. AFTER the repairs, the owner of the computer have 45 days after being notified to come get their computer minimum by law. Most computer repair shops give longer periods to try to get their money. Once the owners do not show up--then the computer becomes the repairman---so you are talking atleast JUNE before the repair guy could even go through the computer's private emails/photos etc. "AFTER HUNTER DID not show up to pick up the computer" means MONTHS LATER,

According to the repairman, he then contacts a friend about what he found--and the friend contacted the FBI....who then in DECEMBER subpoened the computer.

The only problem with your post is you skip Guilliani who has been digging dirt against Biden working with Russian agents Derkach and Tekizhenko who just get banned from entering US by the state department.

Guilliani has a very long and good relationship with Fox News. It’s shocking and wondering why Fox News didn’t take this emails scandals against Biden? Instead he went to a NY Post a tabloid. Then stupid enough to admit that a legitimate news media will question him.
Maybe Guilliani knew something at the POST or maybe given all the smears by libs about Fox---he thought that it would have more impact coming from them instead of Fox. Or it could be that maybe the reporter as able to get information that guilliani wasn't and hence wrote his own story. This is a question that Guilliani should be asked though-------
But he went to less credible tabloid media. He even admitted he will get less question or less challenges using NYP tabloid.
All these doesn’t make sense.
Libs have smeared Fox as Faux so going for the POST does make sense ---because the libs aren't sure how to attack this. Plus it is likely that Guilliani knows someone at the post who makes him feel more comfortable.
TURTLE...... Why are you blaming the libs of an action that was done by your Russian assets Giuliani? We didn’t tell him to go to New York post or anywhere. We have nothing to do with any of that but let me update you just incase you don’t know what is going on.

He went NY Post because it’s a lot less scrutiny and it’s the only outlet that takes this story.

But even Fox News turned it down the story of Giuliani because of credibility and not properly vetted. Here’s the link.


Fox News passed on Hunter Biden email story amid credibility concerns

Fox News reportedly declined the chance to run Rudy Giuliani’s Hunter Biden emails story amid reported concerns on its credibility.

The Rupert Murdoch-owned news channel was offered the story by Donald Trump’s personal lawyer but refused it until it could be properly vetted, according to political news site mediaite.com.

Another braindead Liberal holding on by his fingernails.



"...the e-mail showing that Hunter and Jim Biden, Joe’s brother, were part of a group trying to set up a partnership with Chinese individuals, involving energy projects and perhaps American infrastructure. Millions of dollars were being discussed, making the deal a windfall for the Bidens and a propaganda coup for China.


The e-mail, sent from one of the American partners to Hunter and two others, detailed large cash payments to the partners as well as eventual equity stakes. Hunter, referred to as “H,” was to get 20 percent, and the deal listed “10 Jim” and “10 held by H for the big guy?”

Sources have confirmed to Fox News that the “big guy” was Joe Biden. I have been told by another person with knowledge of the arrangement that there are documents and other proof of Joe Biden’s involvement."

nypost.com


Hey, Joe Biden, what did you know about Hunter’s dirty deals?: Goodwin
Now that some secrets of the Biden family business are no longer secrets, it’s easy to imagine Joe Biden asking the same question Robert Redford asked in the 1972 film “The Candidate.” After winnin…
nypost.com

nypost.com

1603130445895.png







Not......what was that about "unraveling"??????
First 2 sentences alone is just a waste of my time reading the rest of your post. Your post has NOTHING to do what I was talking about ............ why that Russian assets Giuliani went to NY post instead of Fox News. Go back and TRY AGAIN.


Everyone knows it's true, and proof of what was revealed months back.


Now....what is it that makes Hunter Biden, crack-addict, ne'er-do-well, with no experience in gas or oil, kicked out of the Navy, never visited the Ukraine....worth millions and billions?



Interesting that when Biden was VP, he and his son Hunter went to deal with China, and Hunter came away with $millions.....

But Trump is immune to the bribes.


"The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China
In 2013, then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden flew aboard Air Force Two to China. Less than two weeks later, Hunter Biden’s firm inked a $1 billion private equity deal with a subsidiary of the Chinese government’s Bank of China. The deal was later expanded to $1.5 billion. In short, the Chinese government funded a business that it co-owned along with the son of a sitting vice president."
The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China


Sounds a lot like the $145 million Putin gave the Clintons.




The irony is astounding.....for years it was the lie that Trump was a Russian asset.....



......now we have proof......PROOF......that the Democrat candidate is a Russian, Ukrainian, Chinese employee.
Try again.

Selling out American foreign policy:

 

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You're the one not answering a simple question. Answer in your own words why YOU think Biden interfered in Ukrainian politics. You won't. You'll evade and cower.
I believe George Kent because he clearly knows what he's talking about. I think the difference between you and me is that I can tell when someone's bullshitting and you don't. If you had read the testimony, you'd know what I believe. But that's probably to hard.

I'll try to explain it so that your juvenile brain can understand.

Ukraine wanted to break from Russia to get closer to Europe.
Bad for Russia, good for us.
So let's help Ukraine become more pro-western, more pro-democracy, more pro-good governance. It's the right thing to do.
We agree to help Ukraine monetarily. Loan guarantees, lots of them, because they are struggling financially.
But wait, Ukraine doesn't become a beacon of democracy overnight. There's still a lot of people embedded in their government who are from the old system, which was corrupt.
If Ukraine is going to be come a thriving democracy, they need to have a functional judicial system.
The corrupt businessmen and politicians need to be held accountable.
That's not happening.
The prosecutor general isn't pursuing any serious corruption cases. In fact, he's one of the guys from the old, corrupt system.
Okay, let's set up a new office, independent of the old system, with people who will start to go after corruption, especially in the justice system. Let's spend a lot of time and money on it, get people from our justice system to give them tips.
Success, this new office is on to some corrupt prosecutors.
Oh, wait, they're honing on one of Shokin's associates.
Oh wait, Shokin is dismantling the new office we worked on.
Oh wait, Shokin has put a stop to the investigation into his friends.
Guys, we aren't getting anywhere reforming their justice system, this was just a huge waste of money.
If we are going to keep working with them, Shokin has to go, otherwise we are going to be making any progress.
Our loan guarantees are keeping Ukraine afloat, so let's refuse to help Ukraine until it get's it's act cleaned up and fires Shokin.

There you go.
So the only person you want fired is the one investigating the Company your son works for? You have got to be kidding me!?! Shokin was the most corrupt official in Ukraine? Stop it. You sound stupid.
The Obama administration, IMF, EU and Ukraine's Rada also wanted him fired for the same reason ... they were all looking out for Hunter too, right?

 
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But I don’t recall shutting down the Clinton Foundation. Do you have a link where they shut down the Clinton Foundation? Link.
The Clintons had more than one foundation. Using smoke and mirrors, one of the unused ones is up and running. The family foundation, the Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Foundation is the one they used as their private piggy bank. It is shut down.
Nah! Do you expect me to believe you? Do you have a link to prove what you are saying? If it shut down dont you think that should/could have bern discussed many times?
PROVE IT.
Already posted a WSJ link.
You are lying again. Where’s the Link?

It’s just funny that your buddy Markle cannot come up with a link. You would think he has that ready.
 

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Oh please!

the whole October Surprise stinks of rotten eggs!

First, Giuliani has had the laptop since July of 2019....
Why didn't he give it to AG Barr? That is what a law abiding citizen would do.

And Barr is in the bag for Trump, so there would be no reason not to do this...

And then, why in the hell would this computer shop owner, decide to give this lap top to Giuliani.... of all people??? Seriously!!!


Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!


And then you have the impeachment, with Giuliani head deep in the shenanigans back in the late summer and fall of 2019....while he had the laptop already? And didn't come to the defense of Trump, in the impeachment nor the impeachment trial????

come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!! wake up!

And then we have the year long investigation in the Senate on it..... and the R Senate investigation in to the Hunter/Joe thingy and they supposedly have the lap top, and then clear Joe Biden of any wrong doing, though lots of negative on Hunter?

and this shop owner is allegedly legally blind so he doesn't know who dropped the laptop off, yet he says he called the person to come pick it up, and another yet, is he claims he saw something disturbing so he gave a copy to the FBI, but when questioned about child porn on the lapto this guy claims "He saw NONE of that..."?

So why did he give the laptop copy to the FBI?

And what was he doing snooping through Hunter Biden's lap top in the first place? That's NOT part of retrieving a hard drive.....? So what was it specifically that made him give a copy to the FBI and then out of the blue, choose Rudy Giuliani to give it to?

And this guy did not see child porn, and is legally blind, additionally an excuse for not knowing who dropped off the laptop, yet he sees well enough to read Hunter's emails and see something to make him want to turn the coPy of the laptop to the FBI?

Then Giuliani holds on to ALL OF THIS INFO, letting the alleged child sex abuse continue on and on and on and on, while he holds on to the laptop for over a year's time, without giving it to AG BARR,

only to drop the laptop in to the new National Enquirer helper for Trump, the New York Post tabloid, to drop the story two weeks out from the election.... and Giuliani says he gave it to the tabloid because he was afraid a legitimate news paper would be required to check the sources BEFORE printing the story,and 'this would be too late'..... too late to serve HIS PURPOSE of an October surprise.....

Come onnnnnnnnnnnn again!

Sorry, this stinks to high heaven of trumpery!
Your timeline is wrong. Want to try to not spin nonsense?

The FBI was given the hard drive in December after they subpoened it---------which means Barr would have or should have been informed then---but the clinton corrupt FBI sat on and hid this evidence even though Trump was being impeached over Burisma and the computer held evidence that was pertinent to the hearing. Guilliani wasn't informed of the computer till this year-------after the FBI had the computer.
Nope! That's all fake news dear one! The shop owner said he gave the laptop to the FBI after Hunter did not show up to pick it up..... that was early summer 2019? so is the story changing?

And then the subpoena that is showing by the GatewayPundit as a subpoena for Hunter Biden to show up at a grand jury, DOES NOT HAVE HUNTER'S NAME ON IT..... whomever was being subpoenaed...the name was blacked out.... the one that is claimed to have some agent named Wilson bled thru on it ....who works on child sex trafficking.....does not name Biden as the person being subpoenaed, and does not say that the person being subpoenaed has to bring any electronic data with him, as claimed by the GatewayPundit......

Snowflakes are being snowed!
NONSENSE---you desperately spinning bS.

April of 2019...computers (3) were brought in for repair. ONly one of the computers was left. AFTER the repairs, the owner of the computer have 45 days after being notified to come get their computer minimum by law. Most computer repair shops give longer periods to try to get their money. Once the owners do not show up--then the computer becomes the repairman---so you are talking atleast JUNE before the repair guy could even go through the computer's private emails/photos etc. "AFTER HUNTER DID not show up to pick up the computer" means MONTHS LATER,

According to the repairman, he then contacts a friend about what he found--and the friend contacted the FBI....who then in DECEMBER subpoened the computer.

The only problem with your post is you skip Guilliani who has been digging dirt against Biden working with Russian agents Derkach and Tekizhenko who just get banned from entering US by the state department.

Guilliani has a very long and good relationship with Fox News. It’s shocking and wondering why Fox News didn’t take this emails scandals against Biden? Instead he went to a NY Post a tabloid. Then stupid enough to admit that a legitimate news media will question him.
Maybe Guilliani knew something at the POST or maybe given all the smears by libs about Fox---he thought that it would have more impact coming from them instead of Fox. Or it could be that maybe the reporter as able to get information that guilliani wasn't and hence wrote his own story. This is a question that Guilliani should be asked though-------
But he went to less credible tabloid media. He even admitted he will get less question or less challenges using NYP tabloid.
All these doesn’t make sense.
Libs have smeared Fox as Faux so going for the POST does make sense ---because the libs aren't sure how to attack this. Plus it is likely that Guilliani knows someone at the post who makes him feel more comfortable.
TURTLE...... Why are you blaming the libs of an action that was done by your Russian assets Giuliani? We didn’t tell him to go to New York post or anywhere. We have nothing to do with any of that but let me update you just incase you don’t know what is going on.

He went NY Post because it’s a lot less scrutiny and it’s the only outlet that takes this story.

But even Fox News turned it down the story of Giuliani because of credibility and not properly vetted. Here’s the link.


Fox News passed on Hunter Biden email story amid credibility concerns

Fox News reportedly declined the chance to run Rudy Giuliani’s Hunter Biden emails story amid reported concerns on its credibility.

The Rupert Murdoch-owned news channel was offered the story by Donald Trump’s personal lawyer but refused it until it could be properly vetted, according to political news site mediaite.com.

Another braindead Liberal holding on by his fingernails.



"...the e-mail showing that Hunter and Jim Biden, Joe’s brother, were part of a group trying to set up a partnership with Chinese individuals, involving energy projects and perhaps American infrastructure. Millions of dollars were being discussed, making the deal a windfall for the Bidens and a propaganda coup for China.


The e-mail, sent from one of the American partners to Hunter and two others, detailed large cash payments to the partners as well as eventual equity stakes. Hunter, referred to as “H,” was to get 20 percent, and the deal listed “10 Jim” and “10 held by H for the big guy?”

Sources have confirmed to Fox News that the “big guy” was Joe Biden. I have been told by another person with knowledge of the arrangement that there are documents and other proof of Joe Biden’s involvement."

nypost.com


Hey, Joe Biden, what did you know about Hunter’s dirty deals?: Goodwin
Now that some secrets of the Biden family business are no longer secrets, it’s easy to imagine Joe Biden asking the same question Robert Redford asked in the 1972 film “The Candidate.” After winnin…
nypost.com

nypost.com

1603130445895.png







Not......what was that about "unraveling"??????
First 2 sentences alone is just a waste of my time reading the rest of your post. Your post has NOTHING to do what I was talking about ............ why that Russian assets Giuliani went to NY post instead of Fox News. Go back and TRY AGAIN.


Everyone knows it's true, and proof of what was revealed months back.


Now....what is it that makes Hunter Biden, crack-addict, ne'er-do-well, with no experience in gas or oil, kicked out of the Navy, never visited the Ukraine....worth millions and billions?



Interesting that when Biden was VP, he and his son Hunter went to deal with China, and Hunter came away with $millions.....

But Trump is immune to the bribes.


"The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China
In 2013, then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden flew aboard Air Force Two to China. Less than two weeks later, Hunter Biden’s firm inked a $1 billion private equity deal with a subsidiary of the Chinese government’s Bank of China. The deal was later expanded to $1.5 billion. In short, the Chinese government funded a business that it co-owned along with the son of a sitting vice president."
The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China


Sounds a lot like the $145 million Putin gave the Clintons.




The irony is astounding.....for years it was the lie that Trump was a Russian asset.....



......now we have proof......PROOF......that the Democrat candidate is a Russian, Ukrainian, Chinese employee.
Try again.

Again?

Sure...

From Hunter's laptop:

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Oh please!

the whole October Surprise stinks of rotten eggs!

First, Giuliani has had the laptop since July of 2019....
Why didn't he give it to AG Barr? That is what a law abiding citizen would do.

And Barr is in the bag for Trump, so there would be no reason not to do this...

And then, why in the hell would this computer shop owner, decide to give this lap top to Giuliani.... of all people??? Seriously!!!


Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!


And then you have the impeachment, with Giuliani head deep in the shenanigans back in the late summer and fall of 2019....while he had the laptop already? And didn't come to the defense of Trump, in the impeachment nor the impeachment trial????

come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!! wake up!

And then we have the year long investigation in the Senate on it..... and the R Senate investigation in to the Hunter/Joe thingy and they supposedly have the lap top, and then clear Joe Biden of any wrong doing, though lots of negative on Hunter?

and this shop owner is allegedly legally blind so he doesn't know who dropped the laptop off, yet he says he called the person to come pick it up, and another yet, is he claims he saw something disturbing so he gave a copy to the FBI, but when questioned about child porn on the lapto this guy claims "He saw NONE of that..."?

So why did he give the laptop copy to the FBI?

And what was he doing snooping through Hunter Biden's lap top in the first place? That's NOT part of retrieving a hard drive.....? So what was it specifically that made him give a copy to the FBI and then out of the blue, choose Rudy Giuliani to give it to?

And this guy did not see child porn, and is legally blind, additionally an excuse for not knowing who dropped off the laptop, yet he sees well enough to read Hunter's emails and see something to make him want to turn the coPy of the laptop to the FBI?

Then Giuliani holds on to ALL OF THIS INFO, letting the alleged child sex abuse continue on and on and on and on, while he holds on to the laptop for over a year's time, without giving it to AG BARR,

only to drop the laptop in to the new National Enquirer helper for Trump, the New York Post tabloid, to drop the story two weeks out from the election.... and Giuliani says he gave it to the tabloid because he was afraid a legitimate news paper would be required to check the sources BEFORE printing the story,and 'this would be too late'..... too late to serve HIS PURPOSE of an October surprise.....

Come onnnnnnnnnnnn again!

Sorry, this stinks to high heaven of trumpery!
Your timeline is wrong. Want to try to not spin nonsense?

The FBI was given the hard drive in December after they subpoened it---------which means Barr would have or should have been informed then---but the clinton corrupt FBI sat on and hid this evidence even though Trump was being impeached over Burisma and the computer held evidence that was pertinent to the hearing. Guilliani wasn't informed of the computer till this year-------after the FBI had the computer.
Nope! That's all fake news dear one! The shop owner said he gave the laptop to the FBI after Hunter did not show up to pick it up..... that was early summer 2019? so is the story changing?

And then the subpoena that is showing by the GatewayPundit as a subpoena for Hunter Biden to show up at a grand jury, DOES NOT HAVE HUNTER'S NAME ON IT..... whomever was being subpoenaed...the name was blacked out.... the one that is claimed to have some agent named Wilson bled thru on it ....who works on child sex trafficking.....does not name Biden as the person being subpoenaed, and does not say that the person being subpoenaed has to bring any electronic data with him, as claimed by the GatewayPundit......

Snowflakes are being snowed!
NONSENSE---you desperately spinning bS.

April of 2019...computers (3) were brought in for repair. ONly one of the computers was left. AFTER the repairs, the owner of the computer have 45 days after being notified to come get their computer minimum by law. Most computer repair shops give longer periods to try to get their money. Once the owners do not show up--then the computer becomes the repairman---so you are talking atleast JUNE before the repair guy could even go through the computer's private emails/photos etc. "AFTER HUNTER DID not show up to pick up the computer" means MONTHS LATER,

According to the repairman, he then contacts a friend about what he found--and the friend contacted the FBI....who then in DECEMBER subpoened the computer.

The only problem with your post is you skip Guilliani who has been digging dirt against Biden working with Russian agents Derkach and Tekizhenko who just get banned from entering US by the state department.

Guilliani has a very long and good relationship with Fox News. It’s shocking and wondering why Fox News didn’t take this emails scandals against Biden? Instead he went to a NY Post a tabloid. Then stupid enough to admit that a legitimate news media will question him.
Maybe Guilliani knew something at the POST or maybe given all the smears by libs about Fox---he thought that it would have more impact coming from them instead of Fox. Or it could be that maybe the reporter as able to get information that guilliani wasn't and hence wrote his own story. This is a question that Guilliani should be asked though-------
But he went to less credible tabloid media. He even admitted he will get less question or less challenges using NYP tabloid.
All these doesn’t make sense.
Libs have smeared Fox as Faux so going for the POST does make sense ---because the libs aren't sure how to attack this. Plus it is likely that Guilliani knows someone at the post who makes him feel more comfortable.
TURTLE...... Why are you blaming the libs of an action that was done by your Russian assets Giuliani? We didn’t tell him to go to New York post or anywhere. We have nothing to do with any of that but let me update you just incase you don’t know what is going on.

He went NY Post because it’s a lot less scrutiny and it’s the only outlet that takes this story.

But even Fox News turned it down the story of Giuliani because of credibility and not properly vetted. Here’s the link.


Fox News passed on Hunter Biden email story amid credibility concerns

Fox News reportedly declined the chance to run Rudy Giuliani’s Hunter Biden emails story amid reported concerns on its credibility.

The Rupert Murdoch-owned news channel was offered the story by Donald Trump’s personal lawyer but refused it until it could be properly vetted, according to political news site mediaite.com.

Another braindead Liberal holding on by his fingernails.



"...the e-mail showing that Hunter and Jim Biden, Joe’s brother, were part of a group trying to set up a partnership with Chinese individuals, involving energy projects and perhaps American infrastructure. Millions of dollars were being discussed, making the deal a windfall for the Bidens and a propaganda coup for China.


The e-mail, sent from one of the American partners to Hunter and two others, detailed large cash payments to the partners as well as eventual equity stakes. Hunter, referred to as “H,” was to get 20 percent, and the deal listed “10 Jim” and “10 held by H for the big guy?”

Sources have confirmed to Fox News that the “big guy” was Joe Biden. I have been told by another person with knowledge of the arrangement that there are documents and other proof of Joe Biden’s involvement."

nypost.com


Hey, Joe Biden, what did you know about Hunter’s dirty deals?: Goodwin
Now that some secrets of the Biden family business are no longer secrets, it’s easy to imagine Joe Biden asking the same question Robert Redford asked in the 1972 film “The Candidate.” After winnin…
nypost.com

nypost.com

1603130445895.png







Not......what was that about "unraveling"??????
First 2 sentences alone is just a waste of my time reading the rest of your post. Your post has NOTHING to do what I was talking about ............ why that Russian assets Giuliani went to NY post instead of Fox News. Go back and TRY AGAIN.


Everyone knows it's true, and proof of what was revealed months back.


Now....what is it that makes Hunter Biden, crack-addict, ne'er-do-well, with no experience in gas or oil, kicked out of the Navy, never visited the Ukraine....worth millions and billions?



Interesting that when Biden was VP, he and his son Hunter went to deal with China, and Hunter came away with $millions.....

But Trump is immune to the bribes.


"The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China
In 2013, then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden flew aboard Air Force Two to China. Less than two weeks later, Hunter Biden’s firm inked a $1 billion private equity deal with a subsidiary of the Chinese government’s Bank of China. The deal was later expanded to $1.5 billion. In short, the Chinese government funded a business that it co-owned along with the son of a sitting vice president."
The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China


Sounds a lot like the $145 million Putin gave the Clintons.




The irony is astounding.....for years it was the lie that Trump was a Russian asset.....



......now we have proof......PROOF......that the Democrat candidate is a Russian, Ukrainian, Chinese employee.
Try again.

Selling out American foreign policy:

Keep tryin. One of these days you’ll get it right. I’m not going to waste my time opening you video.
 

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Oh please!

the whole October Surprise stinks of rotten eggs!

First, Giuliani has had the laptop since July of 2019....
Why didn't he give it to AG Barr? That is what a law abiding citizen would do.

And Barr is in the bag for Trump, so there would be no reason not to do this...

And then, why in the hell would this computer shop owner, decide to give this lap top to Giuliani.... of all people??? Seriously!!!


Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!


And then you have the impeachment, with Giuliani head deep in the shenanigans back in the late summer and fall of 2019....while he had the laptop already? And didn't come to the defense of Trump, in the impeachment nor the impeachment trial????

come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!! wake up!

And then we have the year long investigation in the Senate on it..... and the R Senate investigation in to the Hunter/Joe thingy and they supposedly have the lap top, and then clear Joe Biden of any wrong doing, though lots of negative on Hunter?

and this shop owner is allegedly legally blind so he doesn't know who dropped the laptop off, yet he says he called the person to come pick it up, and another yet, is he claims he saw something disturbing so he gave a copy to the FBI, but when questioned about child porn on the lapto this guy claims "He saw NONE of that..."?

So why did he give the laptop copy to the FBI?

And what was he doing snooping through Hunter Biden's lap top in the first place? That's NOT part of retrieving a hard drive.....? So what was it specifically that made him give a copy to the FBI and then out of the blue, choose Rudy Giuliani to give it to?

And this guy did not see child porn, and is legally blind, additionally an excuse for not knowing who dropped off the laptop, yet he sees well enough to read Hunter's emails and see something to make him want to turn the coPy of the laptop to the FBI?

Then Giuliani holds on to ALL OF THIS INFO, letting the alleged child sex abuse continue on and on and on and on, while he holds on to the laptop for over a year's time, without giving it to AG BARR,

only to drop the laptop in to the new National Enquirer helper for Trump, the New York Post tabloid, to drop the story two weeks out from the election.... and Giuliani says he gave it to the tabloid because he was afraid a legitimate news paper would be required to check the sources BEFORE printing the story,and 'this would be too late'..... too late to serve HIS PURPOSE of an October surprise.....

Come onnnnnnnnnnnn again!

Sorry, this stinks to high heaven of trumpery!
Your timeline is wrong. Want to try to not spin nonsense?

The FBI was given the hard drive in December after they subpoened it---------which means Barr would have or should have been informed then---but the clinton corrupt FBI sat on and hid this evidence even though Trump was being impeached over Burisma and the computer held evidence that was pertinent to the hearing. Guilliani wasn't informed of the computer till this year-------after the FBI had the computer.
Nope! That's all fake news dear one! The shop owner said he gave the laptop to the FBI after Hunter did not show up to pick it up..... that was early summer 2019? so is the story changing?

And then the subpoena that is showing by the GatewayPundit as a subpoena for Hunter Biden to show up at a grand jury, DOES NOT HAVE HUNTER'S NAME ON IT..... whomever was being subpoenaed...the name was blacked out.... the one that is claimed to have some agent named Wilson bled thru on it ....who works on child sex trafficking.....does not name Biden as the person being subpoenaed, and does not say that the person being subpoenaed has to bring any electronic data with him, as claimed by the GatewayPundit......

Snowflakes are being snowed!
NONSENSE---you desperately spinning bS.

April of 2019...computers (3) were brought in for repair. ONly one of the computers was left. AFTER the repairs, the owner of the computer have 45 days after being notified to come get their computer minimum by law. Most computer repair shops give longer periods to try to get their money. Once the owners do not show up--then the computer becomes the repairman---so you are talking atleast JUNE before the repair guy could even go through the computer's private emails/photos etc. "AFTER HUNTER DID not show up to pick up the computer" means MONTHS LATER,

According to the repairman, he then contacts a friend about what he found--and the friend contacted the FBI....who then in DECEMBER subpoened the computer.

The only problem with your post is you skip Guilliani who has been digging dirt against Biden working with Russian agents Derkach and Tekizhenko who just get banned from entering US by the state department.

Guilliani has a very long and good relationship with Fox News. It’s shocking and wondering why Fox News didn’t take this emails scandals against Biden? Instead he went to a NY Post a tabloid. Then stupid enough to admit that a legitimate news media will question him.
Maybe Guilliani knew something at the POST or maybe given all the smears by libs about Fox---he thought that it would have more impact coming from them instead of Fox. Or it could be that maybe the reporter as able to get information that guilliani wasn't and hence wrote his own story. This is a question that Guilliani should be asked though-------
But he went to less credible tabloid media. He even admitted he will get less question or less challenges using NYP tabloid.
All these doesn’t make sense.
Libs have smeared Fox as Faux so going for the POST does make sense ---because the libs aren't sure how to attack this. Plus it is likely that Guilliani knows someone at the post who makes him feel more comfortable.
TURTLE...... Why are you blaming the libs of an action that was done by your Russian assets Giuliani? We didn’t tell him to go to New York post or anywhere. We have nothing to do with any of that but let me update you just incase you don’t know what is going on.

He went NY Post because it’s a lot less scrutiny and it’s the only outlet that takes this story.

But even Fox News turned it down the story of Giuliani because of credibility and not properly vetted. Here’s the link.


Fox News passed on Hunter Biden email story amid credibility concerns

Fox News reportedly declined the chance to run Rudy Giuliani’s Hunter Biden emails story amid reported concerns on its credibility.

The Rupert Murdoch-owned news channel was offered the story by Donald Trump’s personal lawyer but refused it until it could be properly vetted, according to political news site mediaite.com.

Another braindead Liberal holding on by his fingernails.



"...the e-mail showing that Hunter and Jim Biden, Joe’s brother, were part of a group trying to set up a partnership with Chinese individuals, involving energy projects and perhaps American infrastructure. Millions of dollars were being discussed, making the deal a windfall for the Bidens and a propaganda coup for China.


The e-mail, sent from one of the American partners to Hunter and two others, detailed large cash payments to the partners as well as eventual equity stakes. Hunter, referred to as “H,” was to get 20 percent, and the deal listed “10 Jim” and “10 held by H for the big guy?”

Sources have confirmed to Fox News that the “big guy” was Joe Biden. I have been told by another person with knowledge of the arrangement that there are documents and other proof of Joe Biden’s involvement."

nypost.com


Hey, Joe Biden, what did you know about Hunter’s dirty deals?: Goodwin
Now that some secrets of the Biden family business are no longer secrets, it’s easy to imagine Joe Biden asking the same question Robert Redford asked in the 1972 film “The Candidate.” After winnin…
nypost.com

nypost.com

1603130445895.png







Not......what was that about "unraveling"??????
First 2 sentences alone is just a waste of my time reading the rest of your post. Your post has NOTHING to do what I was talking about ............ why that Russian assets Giuliani went to NY post instead of Fox News. Go back and TRY AGAIN.


Everyone knows it's true, and proof of what was revealed months back.


Now....what is it that makes Hunter Biden, crack-addict, ne'er-do-well, with no experience in gas or oil, kicked out of the Navy, never visited the Ukraine....worth millions and billions?



Interesting that when Biden was VP, he and his son Hunter went to deal with China, and Hunter came away with $millions.....

But Trump is immune to the bribes.


"The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China
In 2013, then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden flew aboard Air Force Two to China. Less than two weeks later, Hunter Biden’s firm inked a $1 billion private equity deal with a subsidiary of the Chinese government’s Bank of China. The deal was later expanded to $1.5 billion. In short, the Chinese government funded a business that it co-owned along with the son of a sitting vice president."
The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China


Sounds a lot like the $145 million Putin gave the Clintons.




The irony is astounding.....for years it was the lie that Trump was a Russian asset.....



......now we have proof......PROOF......that the Democrat candidate is a Russian, Ukrainian, Chinese employee.
Try again.
PoliticalChic you have to use smaller words, he didn't understand what you said
 

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why I should care if Hunter was working for Burisma.
he obviously wasn't working for Burisma and had no qualifications to do so and was a drug addict. Joe was working for Burisma. This is covered under "foreign corrupt practices act"
Dumbfuck, then why did Burisma keep Hunter employed for years after Joe was no longer VP until Hunter resigned?
 

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Oh please!

the whole October Surprise stinks of rotten eggs!

First, Giuliani has had the laptop since July of 2019....
Why didn't he give it to AG Barr? That is what a law abiding citizen would do.

And Barr is in the bag for Trump, so there would be no reason not to do this...

And then, why in the hell would this computer shop owner, decide to give this lap top to Giuliani.... of all people??? Seriously!!!


Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!


And then you have the impeachment, with Giuliani head deep in the shenanigans back in the late summer and fall of 2019....while he had the laptop already? And didn't come to the defense of Trump, in the impeachment nor the impeachment trial????

come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!! wake up!

And then we have the year long investigation in the Senate on it..... and the R Senate investigation in to the Hunter/Joe thingy and they supposedly have the lap top, and then clear Joe Biden of any wrong doing, though lots of negative on Hunter?

and this shop owner is allegedly legally blind so he doesn't know who dropped the laptop off, yet he says he called the person to come pick it up, and another yet, is he claims he saw something disturbing so he gave a copy to the FBI, but when questioned about child porn on the lapto this guy claims "He saw NONE of that..."?

So why did he give the laptop copy to the FBI?

And what was he doing snooping through Hunter Biden's lap top in the first place? That's NOT part of retrieving a hard drive.....? So what was it specifically that made him give a copy to the FBI and then out of the blue, choose Rudy Giuliani to give it to?

And this guy did not see child porn, and is legally blind, additionally an excuse for not knowing who dropped off the laptop, yet he sees well enough to read Hunter's emails and see something to make him want to turn the coPy of the laptop to the FBI?

Then Giuliani holds on to ALL OF THIS INFO, letting the alleged child sex abuse continue on and on and on and on, while he holds on to the laptop for over a year's time, without giving it to AG BARR,

only to drop the laptop in to the new National Enquirer helper for Trump, the New York Post tabloid, to drop the story two weeks out from the election.... and Giuliani says he gave it to the tabloid because he was afraid a legitimate news paper would be required to check the sources BEFORE printing the story,and 'this would be too late'..... too late to serve HIS PURPOSE of an October surprise.....

Come onnnnnnnnnnnn again!

Sorry, this stinks to high heaven of trumpery!
Your timeline is wrong. Want to try to not spin nonsense?

The FBI was given the hard drive in December after they subpoened it---------which means Barr would have or should have been informed then---but the clinton corrupt FBI sat on and hid this evidence even though Trump was being impeached over Burisma and the computer held evidence that was pertinent to the hearing. Guilliani wasn't informed of the computer till this year-------after the FBI had the computer.
Nope! That's all fake news dear one! The shop owner said he gave the laptop to the FBI after Hunter did not show up to pick it up..... that was early summer 2019? so is the story changing?

And then the subpoena that is showing by the GatewayPundit as a subpoena for Hunter Biden to show up at a grand jury, DOES NOT HAVE HUNTER'S NAME ON IT..... whomever was being subpoenaed...the name was blacked out.... the one that is claimed to have some agent named Wilson bled thru on it ....who works on child sex trafficking.....does not name Biden as the person being subpoenaed, and does not say that the person being subpoenaed has to bring any electronic data with him, as claimed by the GatewayPundit......

Snowflakes are being snowed!
NONSENSE---you desperately spinning bS.

April of 2019...computers (3) were brought in for repair. ONly one of the computers was left. AFTER the repairs, the owner of the computer have 45 days after being notified to come get their computer minimum by law. Most computer repair shops give longer periods to try to get their money. Once the owners do not show up--then the computer becomes the repairman---so you are talking atleast JUNE before the repair guy could even go through the computer's private emails/photos etc. "AFTER HUNTER DID not show up to pick up the computer" means MONTHS LATER,

According to the repairman, he then contacts a friend about what he found--and the friend contacted the FBI....who then in DECEMBER subpoened the computer.

The only problem with your post is you skip Guilliani who has been digging dirt against Biden working with Russian agents Derkach and Tekizhenko who just get banned from entering US by the state department.

Guilliani has a very long and good relationship with Fox News. It’s shocking and wondering why Fox News didn’t take this emails scandals against Biden? Instead he went to a NY Post a tabloid. Then stupid enough to admit that a legitimate news media will question him.
Maybe Guilliani knew something at the POST or maybe given all the smears by libs about Fox---he thought that it would have more impact coming from them instead of Fox. Or it could be that maybe the reporter as able to get information that guilliani wasn't and hence wrote his own story. This is a question that Guilliani should be asked though-------
But he went to less credible tabloid media. He even admitted he will get less question or less challenges using NYP tabloid.
All these doesn’t make sense.
Libs have smeared Fox as Faux so going for the POST does make sense ---because the libs aren't sure how to attack this. Plus it is likely that Guilliani knows someone at the post who makes him feel more comfortable.
TURTLE...... Why are you blaming the libs of an action that was done by your Russian assets Giuliani? We didn’t tell him to go to New York post or anywhere. We have nothing to do with any of that but let me update you just incase you don’t know what is going on.

He went NY Post because it’s a lot less scrutiny and it’s the only outlet that takes this story.

But even Fox News turned it down the story of Giuliani because of credibility and not properly vetted. Here’s the link.


Fox News passed on Hunter Biden email story amid credibility concerns

Fox News reportedly declined the chance to run Rudy Giuliani’s Hunter Biden emails story amid reported concerns on its credibility.

The Rupert Murdoch-owned news channel was offered the story by Donald Trump’s personal lawyer but refused it until it could be properly vetted, according to political news site mediaite.com.

Another braindead Liberal holding on by his fingernails.



"...the e-mail showing that Hunter and Jim Biden, Joe’s brother, were part of a group trying to set up a partnership with Chinese individuals, involving energy projects and perhaps American infrastructure. Millions of dollars were being discussed, making the deal a windfall for the Bidens and a propaganda coup for China.


The e-mail, sent from one of the American partners to Hunter and two others, detailed large cash payments to the partners as well as eventual equity stakes. Hunter, referred to as “H,” was to get 20 percent, and the deal listed “10 Jim” and “10 held by H for the big guy?”

Sources have confirmed to Fox News that the “big guy” was Joe Biden. I have been told by another person with knowledge of the arrangement that there are documents and other proof of Joe Biden’s involvement."

nypost.com


Hey, Joe Biden, what did you know about Hunter’s dirty deals?: Goodwin
Now that some secrets of the Biden family business are no longer secrets, it’s easy to imagine Joe Biden asking the same question Robert Redford asked in the 1972 film “The Candidate.” After winnin…
nypost.com

nypost.com

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Not......what was that about "unraveling"??????
First 2 sentences alone is just a waste of my time reading the rest of your post. Your post has NOTHING to do what I was talking about ............ why that Russian assets Giuliani went to NY post instead of Fox News. Go back and TRY AGAIN.


Everyone knows it's true, and proof of what was revealed months back.


Now....what is it that makes Hunter Biden, crack-addict, ne'er-do-well, with no experience in gas or oil, kicked out of the Navy, never visited the Ukraine....worth millions and billions?



Interesting that when Biden was VP, he and his son Hunter went to deal with China, and Hunter came away with $millions.....

But Trump is immune to the bribes.


"The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China
In 2013, then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden flew aboard Air Force Two to China. Less than two weeks later, Hunter Biden’s firm inked a $1 billion private equity deal with a subsidiary of the Chinese government’s Bank of China. The deal was later expanded to $1.5 billion. In short, the Chinese government funded a business that it co-owned along with the son of a sitting vice president."
The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China


Sounds a lot like the $145 million Putin gave the Clintons.




The irony is astounding.....for years it was the lie that Trump was a Russian asset.....



......now we have proof......PROOF......that the Democrat candidate is a Russian, Ukrainian, Chinese employee.
Try again.

Again?

Sure...

From Hunter's laptop:

View attachment 404846
Game, set, match!

charwin95 turn off the lights when you leave
 

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Public Statement on the Hunter Biden Emails October 19, 2020

We are all individuals who devoted significant portions of our lives to national security. Some of us served in senior positions in policy departments and agencies, and some of us served in senior positions in the Intelligence Community. Some of us were political appointees, and some were career officials. Many of us worked for presidents of both political parties. We are all also individuals who see Russia as one of our nation’s primary adversaries. All of us have an understanding of the wide range of Russian overt and covert activities that undermine US national security, with some of us knowing Russian behavior intimately, as we worked to defend our nation against it for a career. A few of us worked against Russian informaon operations in the United States in the last several years.

Perhaps most important, each of us believes deeply that American citizens should determine the outcome of elections, not foreign governments. All of us agree with the founding fathers’ concern about the damage that foreign interference in our politics can do to our democracy. It is for all these reasons that we write to say that the arrival on the US political scene of emails purportedly belonging to Vice President Biden’s son Hunter, much of it related to his time serving on the Board of the Ukrainian gas company Burisma, has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operaon. We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement -- just that our experience makes us deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case. If we are right, this is Russia trying to influence how Americans vote in this election, and we believe strongly that Americans need to be aware of this.

There are a number of factors that make us suspicious of Russian involvement. Such an operation would be consistent with Russian objectives, as outlined publicly and recently by the Intelligence Community, to create political chaos in the United States and to deepen political divisions here but also to undermine the candidacy of former Vice President Biden and thereby help the candidacy of President Trump.

For the Russians at this point, with Trump down in the polls, there is incentive for Moscow to pull out the stops to do anything possible to help Trump win and/or to weaken Biden should he win. A “laptop op” fits the bill, as the publication of the emails are clearly designed to discredit Biden.


More....

Such an operation would be consistent with some of the key methods Russia has used in its now multi-year operation to interfere in our democracy – the hacking (via cyber operations) and the dumping of accurate information or the distribution of inaccurate or misinformation.

Russia did both of these during the 2016 presidential election – judgments shared by the US Intelligence Community, the investigation into Russian activities by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, and the entirety (all Republicans and Democrats) on the current Senate Intelligence Committee.

Such an operation is also consistent with several data points.

The Russians, according to media reports and cybersecurity experts, targeted Burisma late last year for cyber collection and gained access to its emails.

And Ukrainian politician and businessman Adriy Derkach, identified and sanctioned by the US Treasury Department for being a 10-year Russian agent interfering in the 2020 election, passed purported materials on Burisma and Hunter Biden to Giuliani.

Our view that the Russians are involved in the Hunter Biden email issue is consistent with two other significant data points as well. According to the Washington Post, citing four sources, “U.S. intelligence agencies warned the White House last year that Giuliani was the target of an influence operation by Russian intelligence.”

In addition, media reports say that the FBI has now opened an invesgation into Russian involvement in this case. According to USA Today, “…federal authories are investigating whether the material supplied to the New York Post by Rudy Giuliani…is part of a smoke bomb of disinformation pushed by Russia.”

We do not know whether these press reports are accurate, but they do suggest concern within Executive Branch departments and agencies that mirrors ours. It is high time that Russia stops interfering in our democracy.
Fake News. CBSNews confirms that the FBI has the laptop, just as claimed by the shop owner, it's Hunter Biden's, and it has no connection to Russian Intelligence, just as the DNI stated, but, nice try.
 

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Oh please!

the whole October Surprise stinks of rotten eggs!

First, Giuliani has had the laptop since July of 2019....
Why didn't he give it to AG Barr? That is what a law abiding citizen would do.

And Barr is in the bag for Trump, so there would be no reason not to do this...

And then, why in the hell would this computer shop owner, decide to give this lap top to Giuliani.... of all people??? Seriously!!!


Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!


And then you have the impeachment, with Giuliani head deep in the shenanigans back in the late summer and fall of 2019....while he had the laptop already? And didn't come to the defense of Trump, in the impeachment nor the impeachment trial????

come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!! wake up!

And then we have the year long investigation in the Senate on it..... and the R Senate investigation in to the Hunter/Joe thingy and they supposedly have the lap top, and then clear Joe Biden of any wrong doing, though lots of negative on Hunter?

and this shop owner is allegedly legally blind so he doesn't know who dropped the laptop off, yet he says he called the person to come pick it up, and another yet, is he claims he saw something disturbing so he gave a copy to the FBI, but when questioned about child porn on the lapto this guy claims "He saw NONE of that..."?

So why did he give the laptop copy to the FBI?

And what was he doing snooping through Hunter Biden's lap top in the first place? That's NOT part of retrieving a hard drive.....? So what was it specifically that made him give a copy to the FBI and then out of the blue, choose Rudy Giuliani to give it to?

And this guy did not see child porn, and is legally blind, additionally an excuse for not knowing who dropped off the laptop, yet he sees well enough to read Hunter's emails and see something to make him want to turn the coPy of the laptop to the FBI?

Then Giuliani holds on to ALL OF THIS INFO, letting the alleged child sex abuse continue on and on and on and on, while he holds on to the laptop for over a year's time, without giving it to AG BARR,

only to drop the laptop in to the new National Enquirer helper for Trump, the New York Post tabloid, to drop the story two weeks out from the election.... and Giuliani says he gave it to the tabloid because he was afraid a legitimate news paper would be required to check the sources BEFORE printing the story,and 'this would be too late'..... too late to serve HIS PURPOSE of an October surprise.....

Come onnnnnnnnnnnn again!

Sorry, this stinks to high heaven of trumpery!
Your timeline is wrong. Want to try to not spin nonsense?

The FBI was given the hard drive in December after they subpoened it---------which means Barr would have or should have been informed then---but the clinton corrupt FBI sat on and hid this evidence even though Trump was being impeached over Burisma and the computer held evidence that was pertinent to the hearing. Guilliani wasn't informed of the computer till this year-------after the FBI had the computer.
Nope! That's all fake news dear one! The shop owner said he gave the laptop to the FBI after Hunter did not show up to pick it up..... that was early summer 2019? so is the story changing?

And then the subpoena that is showing by the GatewayPundit as a subpoena for Hunter Biden to show up at a grand jury, DOES NOT HAVE HUNTER'S NAME ON IT..... whomever was being subpoenaed...the name was blacked out.... the one that is claimed to have some agent named Wilson bled thru on it ....who works on child sex trafficking.....does not name Biden as the person being subpoenaed, and does not say that the person being subpoenaed has to bring any electronic data with him, as claimed by the GatewayPundit......

Snowflakes are being snowed!
NONSENSE---you desperately spinning bS.

April of 2019...computers (3) were brought in for repair. ONly one of the computers was left. AFTER the repairs, the owner of the computer have 45 days after being notified to come get their computer minimum by law. Most computer repair shops give longer periods to try to get their money. Once the owners do not show up--then the computer becomes the repairman---so you are talking atleast JUNE before the repair guy could even go through the computer's private emails/photos etc. "AFTER HUNTER DID not show up to pick up the computer" means MONTHS LATER,

According to the repairman, he then contacts a friend about what he found--and the friend contacted the FBI....who then in DECEMBER subpoened the computer.

The only problem with your post is you skip Guilliani who has been digging dirt against Biden working with Russian agents Derkach and Tekizhenko who just get banned from entering US by the state department.

Guilliani has a very long and good relationship with Fox News. It’s shocking and wondering why Fox News didn’t take this emails scandals against Biden? Instead he went to a NY Post a tabloid. Then stupid enough to admit that a legitimate news media will question him.
Maybe Guilliani knew something at the POST or maybe given all the smears by libs about Fox---he thought that it would have more impact coming from them instead of Fox. Or it could be that maybe the reporter as able to get information that guilliani wasn't and hence wrote his own story. This is a question that Guilliani should be asked though-------
But he went to less credible tabloid media. He even admitted he will get less question or less challenges using NYP tabloid.
All these doesn’t make sense.
Libs have smeared Fox as Faux so going for the POST does make sense ---because the libs aren't sure how to attack this. Plus it is likely that Guilliani knows someone at the post who makes him feel more comfortable.
TURTLE...... Why are you blaming the libs of an action that was done by your Russian assets Giuliani? We didn’t tell him to go to New York post or anywhere. We have nothing to do with any of that but let me update you just incase you don’t know what is going on.

He went NY Post because it’s a lot less scrutiny and it’s the only outlet that takes this story.

But even Fox News turned it down the story of Giuliani because of credibility and not properly vetted. Here’s the link.


Fox News passed on Hunter Biden email story amid credibility concerns

Fox News reportedly declined the chance to run Rudy Giuliani’s Hunter Biden emails story amid reported concerns on its credibility.

The Rupert Murdoch-owned news channel was offered the story by Donald Trump’s personal lawyer but refused it until it could be properly vetted, according to political news site mediaite.com.

Another braindead Liberal holding on by his fingernails.



"...the e-mail showing that Hunter and Jim Biden, Joe’s brother, were part of a group trying to set up a partnership with Chinese individuals, involving energy projects and perhaps American infrastructure. Millions of dollars were being discussed, making the deal a windfall for the Bidens and a propaganda coup for China.


The e-mail, sent from one of the American partners to Hunter and two others, detailed large cash payments to the partners as well as eventual equity stakes. Hunter, referred to as “H,” was to get 20 percent, and the deal listed “10 Jim” and “10 held by H for the big guy?”

Sources have confirmed to Fox News that the “big guy” was Joe Biden. I have been told by another person with knowledge of the arrangement that there are documents and other proof of Joe Biden’s involvement."

nypost.com


Hey, Joe Biden, what did you know about Hunter’s dirty deals?: Goodwin
Now that some secrets of the Biden family business are no longer secrets, it’s easy to imagine Joe Biden asking the same question Robert Redford asked in the 1972 film “The Candidate.” After winnin…
nypost.com

nypost.com

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Not......what was that about "unraveling"??????
First 2 sentences alone is just a waste of my time reading the rest of your post. Your post has NOTHING to do what I was talking about ............ why that Russian assets Giuliani went to NY post instead of Fox News. Go back and TRY AGAIN.


Everyone knows it's true, and proof of what was revealed months back.


Now....what is it that makes Hunter Biden, crack-addict, ne'er-do-well, with no experience in gas or oil, kicked out of the Navy, never visited the Ukraine....worth millions and billions?



Interesting that when Biden was VP, he and his son Hunter went to deal with China, and Hunter came away with $millions.....

But Trump is immune to the bribes.


"The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China
In 2013, then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden flew aboard Air Force Two to China. Less than two weeks later, Hunter Biden’s firm inked a $1 billion private equity deal with a subsidiary of the Chinese government’s Bank of China. The deal was later expanded to $1.5 billion. In short, the Chinese government funded a business that it co-owned along with the son of a sitting vice president."
The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China


Sounds a lot like the $145 million Putin gave the Clintons.




The irony is astounding.....for years it was the lie that Trump was a Russian asset.....



......now we have proof......PROOF......that the Democrat candidate is a Russian, Ukrainian, Chinese employee.
Try again.

Selling out American foreign policy:

Keep tryin. One of these days you’ll get it right. I’m not going to waste my time opening you video.

Now, what is the service that the Bidens could provide for the Communist Chinese?????



"...in the last week the Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike Group was deployed to the South China Sea? Let’s examine this development and then tie it in to the growing Biden uber-scandal.

Per USNI News, October 15, 2020:
The carrier strike group] is now operating in the South China Sea for the third time as part of its current underway period. Meanwhile, a destroyer made a transit of the Taiwan Strait on Wednesday.

USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76) and its strike group passed through the Strait of Malacca and entered the South China Sea on Monday, according to ship spotters. Accompanying the carrier was guided-missile cruiser USS Antietam (CG-54) and destroyer USS Halsey (DDG-97).
Why has the U.S. sent a strike group back for a third time recently? More from the USNI News report:

USS Barry (DDG-52) passed through the strait on Wednesday, a first for a U.S. warship since Aug. 31. “The ship’s transit through the Taiwan Strait demonstrates the U.S. commitment to a free and open Indo-Pacific,” read the statement. [italics added]
This brings us back to the Hunter Biden laptop and the forebodings among the emails contained therein. If the emails are the revelations they appear, Joe Biden not only knew about Hunter Biden’s and his associates’ influence-peddling with Chinese oligarchs, but facilitated it, granting access to them with him and, likely, other Obama administration high officials. Worse still, emails on the laptop implicate Joe Biden in substantial skims or cuts of “fees” paid to Hunter Biden. "
www.americanthinker.com

Do the Chinese Own Joe Biden?
Americans will need to come to grips with a mounting, deadly serious crisis. The Democrat nominee for the presidency appears saturated with corruption, and worse -- yes, there’s a worse here -- he’s compromised himself to foreign po...
www.americanthinker.com
www.americanthinker.com




I wonder you know where the South China Sea is, and how much of the world's commercial traffic passes through it.


Look it up.


Paying the Bidens was worth every penny to the Chinese.
 

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So the only person you want fired is the one investigating the Company your son works for? You have got to be kidding me!?! Shokin was the most corrupt official in Ukraine? Stop it. You sound stupid.
It's not stupid, you're just poorly informed because you're too lazy to do the work.

If you wanted to clean up corruption in Ukraine, who do you think they should have fired?
You don’t fire anyone. It’s their country. I would not pick someone investigating my sons company. And again it didn’t fix the corruption. It looks bad. Optics aren’t great and now it may cost him the election. Even though you called it a would be miracle. LOL.
Then why didn't Impeached Trump give military aid right away to Ukraine when Congress approved it? What was his reason for holding up the aid?
 

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Oh please!

the whole October Surprise stinks of rotten eggs!

First, Giuliani has had the laptop since July of 2019....
Why didn't he give it to AG Barr? That is what a law abiding citizen would do.

And Barr is in the bag for Trump, so there would be no reason not to do this...

And then, why in the hell would this computer shop owner, decide to give this lap top to Giuliani.... of all people??? Seriously!!!


Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!


And then you have the impeachment, with Giuliani head deep in the shenanigans back in the late summer and fall of 2019....while he had the laptop already? And didn't come to the defense of Trump, in the impeachment nor the impeachment trial????

come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!! wake up!

And then we have the year long investigation in the Senate on it..... and the R Senate investigation in to the Hunter/Joe thingy and they supposedly have the lap top, and then clear Joe Biden of any wrong doing, though lots of negative on Hunter?

and this shop owner is allegedly legally blind so he doesn't know who dropped the laptop off, yet he says he called the person to come pick it up, and another yet, is he claims he saw something disturbing so he gave a copy to the FBI, but when questioned about child porn on the lapto this guy claims "He saw NONE of that..."?

So why did he give the laptop copy to the FBI?

And what was he doing snooping through Hunter Biden's lap top in the first place? That's NOT part of retrieving a hard drive.....? So what was it specifically that made him give a copy to the FBI and then out of the blue, choose Rudy Giuliani to give it to?

And this guy did not see child porn, and is legally blind, additionally an excuse for not knowing who dropped off the laptop, yet he sees well enough to read Hunter's emails and see something to make him want to turn the coPy of the laptop to the FBI?

Then Giuliani holds on to ALL OF THIS INFO, letting the alleged child sex abuse continue on and on and on and on, while he holds on to the laptop for over a year's time, without giving it to AG BARR,

only to drop the laptop in to the new National Enquirer helper for Trump, the New York Post tabloid, to drop the story two weeks out from the election.... and Giuliani says he gave it to the tabloid because he was afraid a legitimate news paper would be required to check the sources BEFORE printing the story,and 'this would be too late'..... too late to serve HIS PURPOSE of an October surprise.....

Come onnnnnnnnnnnn again!

Sorry, this stinks to high heaven of trumpery!
Your timeline is wrong. Want to try to not spin nonsense?

The FBI was given the hard drive in December after they subpoened it---------which means Barr would have or should have been informed then---but the clinton corrupt FBI sat on and hid this evidence even though Trump was being impeached over Burisma and the computer held evidence that was pertinent to the hearing. Guilliani wasn't informed of the computer till this year-------after the FBI had the computer.
Nope! That's all fake news dear one! The shop owner said he gave the laptop to the FBI after Hunter did not show up to pick it up..... that was early summer 2019? so is the story changing?

And then the subpoena that is showing by the GatewayPundit as a subpoena for Hunter Biden to show up at a grand jury, DOES NOT HAVE HUNTER'S NAME ON IT..... whomever was being subpoenaed...the name was blacked out.... the one that is claimed to have some agent named Wilson bled thru on it ....who works on child sex trafficking.....does not name Biden as the person being subpoenaed, and does not say that the person being subpoenaed has to bring any electronic data with him, as claimed by the GatewayPundit......

Snowflakes are being snowed!
NONSENSE---you desperately spinning bS.

April of 2019...computers (3) were brought in for repair. ONly one of the computers was left. AFTER the repairs, the owner of the computer have 45 days after being notified to come get their computer minimum by law. Most computer repair shops give longer periods to try to get their money. Once the owners do not show up--then the computer becomes the repairman---so you are talking atleast JUNE before the repair guy could even go through the computer's private emails/photos etc. "AFTER HUNTER DID not show up to pick up the computer" means MONTHS LATER,

According to the repairman, he then contacts a friend about what he found--and the friend contacted the FBI....who then in DECEMBER subpoened the computer.

The only problem with your post is you skip Guilliani who has been digging dirt against Biden working with Russian agents Derkach and Tekizhenko who just get banned from entering US by the state department.

Guilliani has a very long and good relationship with Fox News. It’s shocking and wondering why Fox News didn’t take this emails scandals against Biden? Instead he went to a NY Post a tabloid. Then stupid enough to admit that a legitimate news media will question him.
Maybe Guilliani knew something at the POST or maybe given all the smears by libs about Fox---he thought that it would have more impact coming from them instead of Fox. Or it could be that maybe the reporter as able to get information that guilliani wasn't and hence wrote his own story. This is a question that Guilliani should be asked though-------
But he went to less credible tabloid media. He even admitted he will get less question or less challenges using NYP tabloid.
All these doesn’t make sense.
Libs have smeared Fox as Faux so going for the POST does make sense ---because the libs aren't sure how to attack this. Plus it is likely that Guilliani knows someone at the post who makes him feel more comfortable.
TURTLE...... Why are you blaming the libs of an action that was done by your Russian assets Giuliani? We didn’t tell him to go to New York post or anywhere. We have nothing to do with any of that but let me update you just incase you don’t know what is going on.

He went NY Post because it’s a lot less scrutiny and it’s the only outlet that takes this story.

But even Fox News turned it down the story of Giuliani because of credibility and not properly vetted. Here’s the link.


Fox News passed on Hunter Biden email story amid credibility concerns

Fox News reportedly declined the chance to run Rudy Giuliani’s Hunter Biden emails story amid reported concerns on its credibility.

The Rupert Murdoch-owned news channel was offered the story by Donald Trump’s personal lawyer but refused it until it could be properly vetted, according to political news site mediaite.com.

Another braindead Liberal holding on by his fingernails.



"...the e-mail showing that Hunter and Jim Biden, Joe’s brother, were part of a group trying to set up a partnership with Chinese individuals, involving energy projects and perhaps American infrastructure. Millions of dollars were being discussed, making the deal a windfall for the Bidens and a propaganda coup for China.


The e-mail, sent from one of the American partners to Hunter and two others, detailed large cash payments to the partners as well as eventual equity stakes. Hunter, referred to as “H,” was to get 20 percent, and the deal listed “10 Jim” and “10 held by H for the big guy?”

Sources have confirmed to Fox News that the “big guy” was Joe Biden. I have been told by another person with knowledge of the arrangement that there are documents and other proof of Joe Biden’s involvement."

nypost.com


Hey, Joe Biden, what did you know about Hunter’s dirty deals?: Goodwin
Now that some secrets of the Biden family business are no longer secrets, it’s easy to imagine Joe Biden asking the same question Robert Redford asked in the 1972 film “The Candidate.” After winnin…
nypost.com

nypost.com

1603130445895.png







Not......what was that about "unraveling"??????
First 2 sentences alone is just a waste of my time reading the rest of your post. Your post has NOTHING to do what I was talking about ............ why that Russian assets Giuliani went to NY post instead of Fox News. Go back and TRY AGAIN.


Everyone knows it's true, and proof of what was revealed months back.


Now....what is it that makes Hunter Biden, crack-addict, ne'er-do-well, with no experience in gas or oil, kicked out of the Navy, never visited the Ukraine....worth millions and billions?



Interesting that when Biden was VP, he and his son Hunter went to deal with China, and Hunter came away with $millions.....

But Trump is immune to the bribes.


"The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China
In 2013, then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden flew aboard Air Force Two to China. Less than two weeks later, Hunter Biden’s firm inked a $1 billion private equity deal with a subsidiary of the Chinese government’s Bank of China. The deal was later expanded to $1.5 billion. In short, the Chinese government funded a business that it co-owned along with the son of a sitting vice president."
The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China


Sounds a lot like the $145 million Putin gave the Clintons.




The irony is astounding.....for years it was the lie that Trump was a Russian asset.....



......now we have proof......PROOF......that the Democrat candidate is a Russian, Ukrainian, Chinese employee.
Try again.

Again?

Sure...

From Hunter's laptop:

View attachment 404846
Game, set, match!

charwin95 turn off the lights when you leave
Why? Your gf keeps giving me a different rebuttal way off from what was I talking about with Turtlesoup. But you can try.
 

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Oh please!

the whole October Surprise stinks of rotten eggs!

First, Giuliani has had the laptop since July of 2019....
Why didn't he give it to AG Barr? That is what a law abiding citizen would do.

And Barr is in the bag for Trump, so there would be no reason not to do this...

And then, why in the hell would this computer shop owner, decide to give this lap top to Giuliani.... of all people??? Seriously!!!


Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!


And then you have the impeachment, with Giuliani head deep in the shenanigans back in the late summer and fall of 2019....while he had the laptop already? And didn't come to the defense of Trump, in the impeachment nor the impeachment trial????

come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!! wake up!

And then we have the year long investigation in the Senate on it..... and the R Senate investigation in to the Hunter/Joe thingy and they supposedly have the lap top, and then clear Joe Biden of any wrong doing, though lots of negative on Hunter?

and this shop owner is allegedly legally blind so he doesn't know who dropped the laptop off, yet he says he called the person to come pick it up, and another yet, is he claims he saw something disturbing so he gave a copy to the FBI, but when questioned about child porn on the lapto this guy claims "He saw NONE of that..."?

So why did he give the laptop copy to the FBI?

And what was he doing snooping through Hunter Biden's lap top in the first place? That's NOT part of retrieving a hard drive.....? So what was it specifically that made him give a copy to the FBI and then out of the blue, choose Rudy Giuliani to give it to?

And this guy did not see child porn, and is legally blind, additionally an excuse for not knowing who dropped off the laptop, yet he sees well enough to read Hunter's emails and see something to make him want to turn the coPy of the laptop to the FBI?

Then Giuliani holds on to ALL OF THIS INFO, letting the alleged child sex abuse continue on and on and on and on, while he holds on to the laptop for over a year's time, without giving it to AG BARR,

only to drop the laptop in to the new National Enquirer helper for Trump, the New York Post tabloid, to drop the story two weeks out from the election.... and Giuliani says he gave it to the tabloid because he was afraid a legitimate news paper would be required to check the sources BEFORE printing the story,and 'this would be too late'..... too late to serve HIS PURPOSE of an October surprise.....

Come onnnnnnnnnnnn again!

Sorry, this stinks to high heaven of trumpery!
Your timeline is wrong. Want to try to not spin nonsense?

The FBI was given the hard drive in December after they subpoened it---------which means Barr would have or should have been informed then---but the clinton corrupt FBI sat on and hid this evidence even though Trump was being impeached over Burisma and the computer held evidence that was pertinent to the hearing. Guilliani wasn't informed of the computer till this year-------after the FBI had the computer.
Nope! That's all fake news dear one! The shop owner said he gave the laptop to the FBI after Hunter did not show up to pick it up..... that was early summer 2019? so is the story changing?

And then the subpoena that is showing by the GatewayPundit as a subpoena for Hunter Biden to show up at a grand jury, DOES NOT HAVE HUNTER'S NAME ON IT..... whomever was being subpoenaed...the name was blacked out.... the one that is claimed to have some agent named Wilson bled thru on it ....who works on child sex trafficking.....does not name Biden as the person being subpoenaed, and does not say that the person being subpoenaed has to bring any electronic data with him, as claimed by the GatewayPundit......

Snowflakes are being snowed!
NONSENSE---you desperately spinning bS.

April of 2019...computers (3) were brought in for repair. ONly one of the computers was left. AFTER the repairs, the owner of the computer have 45 days after being notified to come get their computer minimum by law. Most computer repair shops give longer periods to try to get their money. Once the owners do not show up--then the computer becomes the repairman---so you are talking atleast JUNE before the repair guy could even go through the computer's private emails/photos etc. "AFTER HUNTER DID not show up to pick up the computer" means MONTHS LATER,

According to the repairman, he then contacts a friend about what he found--and the friend contacted the FBI....who then in DECEMBER subpoened the computer.

The only problem with your post is you skip Guilliani who has been digging dirt against Biden working with Russian agents Derkach and Tekizhenko who just get banned from entering US by the state department.

Guilliani has a very long and good relationship with Fox News. It’s shocking and wondering why Fox News didn’t take this emails scandals against Biden? Instead he went to a NY Post a tabloid. Then stupid enough to admit that a legitimate news media will question him.
Maybe Guilliani knew something at the POST or maybe given all the smears by libs about Fox---he thought that it would have more impact coming from them instead of Fox. Or it could be that maybe the reporter as able to get information that guilliani wasn't and hence wrote his own story. This is a question that Guilliani should be asked though-------
But he went to less credible tabloid media. He even admitted he will get less question or less challenges using NYP tabloid.
All these doesn’t make sense.
Libs have smeared Fox as Faux so going for the POST does make sense ---because the libs aren't sure how to attack this. Plus it is likely that Guilliani knows someone at the post who makes him feel more comfortable.
TURTLE...... Why are you blaming the libs of an action that was done by your Russian assets Giuliani? We didn’t tell him to go to New York post or anywhere. We have nothing to do with any of that but let me update you just incase you don’t know what is going on.

He went NY Post because it’s a lot less scrutiny and it’s the only outlet that takes this story.

But even Fox News turned it down the story of Giuliani because of credibility and not properly vetted. Here’s the link.


Fox News passed on Hunter Biden email story amid credibility concerns

Fox News reportedly declined the chance to run Rudy Giuliani’s Hunter Biden emails story amid reported concerns on its credibility.

The Rupert Murdoch-owned news channel was offered the story by Donald Trump’s personal lawyer but refused it until it could be properly vetted, according to political news site mediaite.com.

Another braindead Liberal holding on by his fingernails.



"...the e-mail showing that Hunter and Jim Biden, Joe’s brother, were part of a group trying to set up a partnership with Chinese individuals, involving energy projects and perhaps American infrastructure. Millions of dollars were being discussed, making the deal a windfall for the Bidens and a propaganda coup for China.


The e-mail, sent from one of the American partners to Hunter and two others, detailed large cash payments to the partners as well as eventual equity stakes. Hunter, referred to as “H,” was to get 20 percent, and the deal listed “10 Jim” and “10 held by H for the big guy?”

Sources have confirmed to Fox News that the “big guy” was Joe Biden. I have been told by another person with knowledge of the arrangement that there are documents and other proof of Joe Biden’s involvement."

nypost.com


Hey, Joe Biden, what did you know about Hunter’s dirty deals?: Goodwin
Now that some secrets of the Biden family business are no longer secrets, it’s easy to imagine Joe Biden asking the same question Robert Redford asked in the 1972 film “The Candidate.” After winnin…
nypost.com

nypost.com

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Not......what was that about "unraveling"??????
First 2 sentences alone is just a waste of my time reading the rest of your post. Your post has NOTHING to do what I was talking about ............ why that Russian assets Giuliani went to NY post instead of Fox News. Go back and TRY AGAIN.


Everyone knows it's true, and proof of what was revealed months back.


Now....what is it that makes Hunter Biden, crack-addict, ne'er-do-well, with no experience in gas or oil, kicked out of the Navy, never visited the Ukraine....worth millions and billions?



Interesting that when Biden was VP, he and his son Hunter went to deal with China, and Hunter came away with $millions.....

But Trump is immune to the bribes.


"The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China
In 2013, then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden flew aboard Air Force Two to China. Less than two weeks later, Hunter Biden’s firm inked a $1 billion private equity deal with a subsidiary of the Chinese government’s Bank of China. The deal was later expanded to $1.5 billion. In short, the Chinese government funded a business that it co-owned along with the son of a sitting vice president."
The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China


Sounds a lot like the $145 million Putin gave the Clintons.




The irony is astounding.....for years it was the lie that Trump was a Russian asset.....



......now we have proof......PROOF......that the Democrat candidate is a Russian, Ukrainian, Chinese employee.
Try again.

Again?

Sure...

From Hunter's laptop:

View attachment 404846
Game, set, match!

charwin95 turn off the lights when you leave
Why? Your gf keeps giving me a different rebuttal way off from what was I talking about with Turtlesoup. But you can try.

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Oh please!

the whole October Surprise stinks of rotten eggs!

First, Giuliani has had the laptop since July of 2019....
Why didn't he give it to AG Barr? That is what a law abiding citizen would do.

And Barr is in the bag for Trump, so there would be no reason not to do this...

And then, why in the hell would this computer shop owner, decide to give this lap top to Giuliani.... of all people??? Seriously!!!


Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!


And then you have the impeachment, with Giuliani head deep in the shenanigans back in the late summer and fall of 2019....while he had the laptop already? And didn't come to the defense of Trump, in the impeachment nor the impeachment trial????

come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!! wake up!

And then we have the year long investigation in the Senate on it..... and the R Senate investigation in to the Hunter/Joe thingy and they supposedly have the lap top, and then clear Joe Biden of any wrong doing, though lots of negative on Hunter?

and this shop owner is allegedly legally blind so he doesn't know who dropped the laptop off, yet he says he called the person to come pick it up, and another yet, is he claims he saw something disturbing so he gave a copy to the FBI, but when questioned about child porn on the lapto this guy claims "He saw NONE of that..."?

So why did he give the laptop copy to the FBI?

And what was he doing snooping through Hunter Biden's lap top in the first place? That's NOT part of retrieving a hard drive.....? So what was it specifically that made him give a copy to the FBI and then out of the blue, choose Rudy Giuliani to give it to?

And this guy did not see child porn, and is legally blind, additionally an excuse for not knowing who dropped off the laptop, yet he sees well enough to read Hunter's emails and see something to make him want to turn the coPy of the laptop to the FBI?

Then Giuliani holds on to ALL OF THIS INFO, letting the alleged child sex abuse continue on and on and on and on, while he holds on to the laptop for over a year's time, without giving it to AG BARR,

only to drop the laptop in to the new National Enquirer helper for Trump, the New York Post tabloid, to drop the story two weeks out from the election.... and Giuliani says he gave it to the tabloid because he was afraid a legitimate news paper would be required to check the sources BEFORE printing the story,and 'this would be too late'..... too late to serve HIS PURPOSE of an October surprise.....

Come onnnnnnnnnnnn again!

Sorry, this stinks to high heaven of trumpery!
Your timeline is wrong. Want to try to not spin nonsense?

The FBI was given the hard drive in December after they subpoened it---------which means Barr would have or should have been informed then---but the clinton corrupt FBI sat on and hid this evidence even though Trump was being impeached over Burisma and the computer held evidence that was pertinent to the hearing. Guilliani wasn't informed of the computer till this year-------after the FBI had the computer.
Nope! That's all fake news dear one! The shop owner said he gave the laptop to the FBI after Hunter did not show up to pick it up..... that was early summer 2019? so is the story changing?

And then the subpoena that is showing by the GatewayPundit as a subpoena for Hunter Biden to show up at a grand jury, DOES NOT HAVE HUNTER'S NAME ON IT..... whomever was being subpoenaed...the name was blacked out.... the one that is claimed to have some agent named Wilson bled thru on it ....who works on child sex trafficking.....does not name Biden as the person being subpoenaed, and does not say that the person being subpoenaed has to bring any electronic data with him, as claimed by the GatewayPundit......

Snowflakes are being snowed!
NONSENSE---you desperately spinning bS.

April of 2019...computers (3) were brought in for repair. ONly one of the computers was left. AFTER the repairs, the owner of the computer have 45 days after being notified to come get their computer minimum by law. Most computer repair shops give longer periods to try to get their money. Once the owners do not show up--then the computer becomes the repairman---so you are talking atleast JUNE before the repair guy could even go through the computer's private emails/photos etc. "AFTER HUNTER DID not show up to pick up the computer" means MONTHS LATER,

According to the repairman, he then contacts a friend about what he found--and the friend contacted the FBI....who then in DECEMBER subpoened the computer.

The only problem with your post is you skip Guilliani who has been digging dirt against Biden working with Russian agents Derkach and Tekizhenko who just get banned from entering US by the state department.

Guilliani has a very long and good relationship with Fox News. It’s shocking and wondering why Fox News didn’t take this emails scandals against Biden? Instead he went to a NY Post a tabloid. Then stupid enough to admit that a legitimate news media will question him.
Maybe Guilliani knew something at the POST or maybe given all the smears by libs about Fox---he thought that it would have more impact coming from them instead of Fox. Or it could be that maybe the reporter as able to get information that guilliani wasn't and hence wrote his own story. This is a question that Guilliani should be asked though-------
But he went to less credible tabloid media. He even admitted he will get less question or less challenges using NYP tabloid.
All these doesn’t make sense.
Libs have smeared Fox as Faux so going for the POST does make sense ---because the libs aren't sure how to attack this. Plus it is likely that Guilliani knows someone at the post who makes him feel more comfortable.
TURTLE...... Why are you blaming the libs of an action that was done by your Russian assets Giuliani? We didn’t tell him to go to New York post or anywhere. We have nothing to do with any of that but let me update you just incase you don’t know what is going on.

He went NY Post because it’s a lot less scrutiny and it’s the only outlet that takes this story.

But even Fox News turned it down the story of Giuliani because of credibility and not properly vetted. Here’s the link.


Fox News passed on Hunter Biden email story amid credibility concerns

Fox News reportedly declined the chance to run Rudy Giuliani’s Hunter Biden emails story amid reported concerns on its credibility.

The Rupert Murdoch-owned news channel was offered the story by Donald Trump’s personal lawyer but refused it until it could be properly vetted, according to political news site mediaite.com.

Another braindead Liberal holding on by his fingernails.



"...the e-mail showing that Hunter and Jim Biden, Joe’s brother, were part of a group trying to set up a partnership with Chinese individuals, involving energy projects and perhaps American infrastructure. Millions of dollars were being discussed, making the deal a windfall for the Bidens and a propaganda coup for China.


The e-mail, sent from one of the American partners to Hunter and two others, detailed large cash payments to the partners as well as eventual equity stakes. Hunter, referred to as “H,” was to get 20 percent, and the deal listed “10 Jim” and “10 held by H for the big guy?”

Sources have confirmed to Fox News that the “big guy” was Joe Biden. I have been told by another person with knowledge of the arrangement that there are documents and other proof of Joe Biden’s involvement."

nypost.com


Hey, Joe Biden, what did you know about Hunter’s dirty deals?: Goodwin
Now that some secrets of the Biden family business are no longer secrets, it’s easy to imagine Joe Biden asking the same question Robert Redford asked in the 1972 film “The Candidate.” After winnin…
nypost.com

nypost.com

1603130445895.png







Not......what was that about "unraveling"??????
First 2 sentences alone is just a waste of my time reading the rest of your post. Your post has NOTHING to do what I was talking about ............ why that Russian assets Giuliani went to NY post instead of Fox News. Go back and TRY AGAIN.


Everyone knows it's true, and proof of what was revealed months back.


Now....what is it that makes Hunter Biden, crack-addict, ne'er-do-well, with no experience in gas or oil, kicked out of the Navy, never visited the Ukraine....worth millions and billions?



Interesting that when Biden was VP, he and his son Hunter went to deal with China, and Hunter came away with $millions.....

But Trump is immune to the bribes.


"The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China
In 2013, then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden flew aboard Air Force Two to China. Less than two weeks later, Hunter Biden’s firm inked a $1 billion private equity deal with a subsidiary of the Chinese government’s Bank of China. The deal was later expanded to $1.5 billion. In short, the Chinese government funded a business that it co-owned along with the son of a sitting vice president."
The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China


Sounds a lot like the $145 million Putin gave the Clintons.




The irony is astounding.....for years it was the lie that Trump was a Russian asset.....



......now we have proof......PROOF......that the Democrat candidate is a Russian, Ukrainian, Chinese employee.
Try again.

Selling out American foreign policy:

Keep tryin. One of these days you’ll get it right. I’m not going to waste my time opening you video.

Now, what is the service that the Bidens could provide for the Communist Chinese?????



"...in the last week the Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike Group was deployed to the South China Sea? Let’s examine this development and then tie it in to the growing Biden uber-scandal.

Per USNI News, October 15, 2020:
The carrier strike group] is now operating in the South China Sea for the third time as part of its current underway period. Meanwhile, a destroyer made a transit of the Taiwan Strait on Wednesday.

USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76) and its strike group passed through the Strait of Malacca and entered the South China Sea on Monday, according to ship spotters. Accompanying the carrier was guided-missile cruiser USS Antietam (CG-54) and destroyer USS Halsey (DDG-97).
Why has the U.S. sent a strike group back for a third time recently? More from the USNI News report:

USS Barry (DDG-52) passed through the strait on Wednesday, a first for a U.S. warship since Aug. 31. “The ship’s transit through the Taiwan Strait demonstrates the U.S. commitment to a free and open Indo-Pacific,” read the statement. [italics added]
This brings us back to the Hunter Biden laptop and the forebodings among the emails contained therein. If the emails are the revelations they appear, Joe Biden not only knew about Hunter Biden’s and his associates’ influence-peddling with Chinese oligarchs, but facilitated it, granting access to them with him and, likely, other Obama administration high officials. Worse still, emails on the laptop implicate Joe Biden in substantial skims or cuts of “fees” paid to Hunter Biden. "
www.americanthinker.com

Do the Chinese Own Joe Biden?
Americans will need to come to grips with a mounting, deadly serious crisis. The Democrat nominee for the presidency appears saturated with corruption, and worse -- yes, there’s a worse here -- he’s compromised himself to foreign po...
www.americanthinker.com
www.americanthinker.com




I wonder you know where the South China Sea is, and how much of the world's commercial traffic passes through it.


Look it up.


Paying the Bidens was worth every penny to the Chinese.
And apparently, Google is using Chinese Communist Censors to control our domestic search results. So, the choice is pretty easy this election are you for the Chinese Communist Party and the Domestic Terrorists of BLM/Antifa, or are you for safe lawful communities, the rule of law and the American Worker?
 

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You're the one not answering a simple question. Answer in your own words why YOU think Biden interfered in Ukrainian politics. You won't. You'll evade and cower.
I believe George Kent because he clearly knows what he's talking about. I think the difference between you and me is that I can tell when someone's bullshitting and you don't. If you had read the testimony, you'd know what I believe. But that's probably to hard.

I'll try to explain it so that your juvenile brain can understand.

Ukraine wanted to break from Russia to get closer to Europe.
Bad for Russia, good for us.
So let's help Ukraine become more pro-western, more pro-democracy, more pro-good governance. It's the right thing to do.
We agree to help Ukraine monetarily. Loan guarantees, lots of them, because they are struggling financially.
But wait, Ukraine doesn't become a beacon of democracy overnight. There's still a lot of people embedded in their government who are from the old system, which was corrupt.
If Ukraine is going to be come a thriving democracy, they need to have a functional judicial system.
The corrupt businessmen and politicians need to be held accountable.
That's not happening.
The prosecutor general isn't pursuing any serious corruption cases. In fact, he's one of the guys from the old, corrupt system.
Okay, let's set up a new office, independent of the old system, with people who will start to go after corruption, especially in the justice system. Let's spend a lot of time and money on it, get people from our justice system to give them tips.
Success, this new office is on to some corrupt prosecutors.
Oh, wait, they're honing on one of Shokin's associates.
Oh wait, Shokin is dismantling the new office we worked on.
Oh wait, Shokin has put a stop to the investigation into his friends.
Guys, we aren't getting anywhere reforming their justice system, this was just a huge waste of money.
If we are going to keep working with them, Shokin has to go, otherwise we are going to be making any progress.
Our loan guarantees are keeping Ukraine afloat, so let's refuse to help Ukraine until it get's it's act cleaned up and fires Shokin.

There you go.
So the only person you want fired is the one investigating the Company your son works for? You have got to be kidding me!?! Shokin was the most corrupt official in Ukraine? Stop it. You sound stupid.
The Obama administration, IMF, EU and Ukraine's Rada also wanted him fired for the same reason ... they were all looking out Hunter too, right?

And they wanted it done publicly? Link it. Thanks.
 

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Oh please!

the whole October Surprise stinks of rotten eggs!

First, Giuliani has had the laptop since July of 2019....
Why didn't he give it to AG Barr? That is what a law abiding citizen would do.

And Barr is in the bag for Trump, so there would be no reason not to do this...

And then, why in the hell would this computer shop owner, decide to give this lap top to Giuliani.... of all people??? Seriously!!!


Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!


And then you have the impeachment, with Giuliani head deep in the shenanigans back in the late summer and fall of 2019....while he had the laptop already? And didn't come to the defense of Trump, in the impeachment nor the impeachment trial????

come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!! wake up!

And then we have the year long investigation in the Senate on it..... and the R Senate investigation in to the Hunter/Joe thingy and they supposedly have the lap top, and then clear Joe Biden of any wrong doing, though lots of negative on Hunter?

and this shop owner is allegedly legally blind so he doesn't know who dropped the laptop off, yet he says he called the person to come pick it up, and another yet, is he claims he saw something disturbing so he gave a copy to the FBI, but when questioned about child porn on the lapto this guy claims "He saw NONE of that..."?

So why did he give the laptop copy to the FBI?

And what was he doing snooping through Hunter Biden's lap top in the first place? That's NOT part of retrieving a hard drive.....? So what was it specifically that made him give a copy to the FBI and then out of the blue, choose Rudy Giuliani to give it to?

And this guy did not see child porn, and is legally blind, additionally an excuse for not knowing who dropped off the laptop, yet he sees well enough to read Hunter's emails and see something to make him want to turn the coPy of the laptop to the FBI?

Then Giuliani holds on to ALL OF THIS INFO, letting the alleged child sex abuse continue on and on and on and on, while he holds on to the laptop for over a year's time, without giving it to AG BARR,

only to drop the laptop in to the new National Enquirer helper for Trump, the New York Post tabloid, to drop the story two weeks out from the election.... and Giuliani says he gave it to the tabloid because he was afraid a legitimate news paper would be required to check the sources BEFORE printing the story,and 'this would be too late'..... too late to serve HIS PURPOSE of an October surprise.....

Come onnnnnnnnnnnn again!

Sorry, this stinks to high heaven of trumpery!
Your timeline is wrong. Want to try to not spin nonsense?

The FBI was given the hard drive in December after they subpoened it---------which means Barr would have or should have been informed then---but the clinton corrupt FBI sat on and hid this evidence even though Trump was being impeached over Burisma and the computer held evidence that was pertinent to the hearing. Guilliani wasn't informed of the computer till this year-------after the FBI had the computer.
Nope! That's all fake news dear one! The shop owner said he gave the laptop to the FBI after Hunter did not show up to pick it up..... that was early summer 2019? so is the story changing?

And then the subpoena that is showing by the GatewayPundit as a subpoena for Hunter Biden to show up at a grand jury, DOES NOT HAVE HUNTER'S NAME ON IT..... whomever was being subpoenaed...the name was blacked out.... the one that is claimed to have some agent named Wilson bled thru on it ....who works on child sex trafficking.....does not name Biden as the person being subpoenaed, and does not say that the person being subpoenaed has to bring any electronic data with him, as claimed by the GatewayPundit......

Snowflakes are being snowed!
NONSENSE---you desperately spinning bS.

April of 2019...computers (3) were brought in for repair. ONly one of the computers was left. AFTER the repairs, the owner of the computer have 45 days after being notified to come get their computer minimum by law. Most computer repair shops give longer periods to try to get their money. Once the owners do not show up--then the computer becomes the repairman---so you are talking atleast JUNE before the repair guy could even go through the computer's private emails/photos etc. "AFTER HUNTER DID not show up to pick up the computer" means MONTHS LATER,

According to the repairman, he then contacts a friend about what he found--and the friend contacted the FBI....who then in DECEMBER subpoened the computer.

The only problem with your post is you skip Guilliani who has been digging dirt against Biden working with Russian agents Derkach and Tekizhenko who just get banned from entering US by the state department.

Guilliani has a very long and good relationship with Fox News. It’s shocking and wondering why Fox News didn’t take this emails scandals against Biden? Instead he went to a NY Post a tabloid. Then stupid enough to admit that a legitimate news media will question him.
Maybe Guilliani knew something at the POST or maybe given all the smears by libs about Fox---he thought that it would have more impact coming from them instead of Fox. Or it could be that maybe the reporter as able to get information that guilliani wasn't and hence wrote his own story. This is a question that Guilliani should be asked though-------
But he went to less credible tabloid media. He even admitted he will get less question or less challenges using NYP tabloid.
All these doesn’t make sense.
Libs have smeared Fox as Faux so going for the POST does make sense ---because the libs aren't sure how to attack this. Plus it is likely that Guilliani knows someone at the post who makes him feel more comfortable.
TURTLE...... Why are you blaming the libs of an action that was done by your Russian assets Giuliani? We didn’t tell him to go to New York post or anywhere. We have nothing to do with any of that but let me update you just incase you don’t know what is going on.

He went NY Post because it’s a lot less scrutiny and it’s the only outlet that takes this story.

But even Fox News turned it down the story of Giuliani because of credibility and not properly vetted. Here’s the link.


Fox News passed on Hunter Biden email story amid credibility concerns

Fox News reportedly declined the chance to run Rudy Giuliani’s Hunter Biden emails story amid reported concerns on its credibility.

The Rupert Murdoch-owned news channel was offered the story by Donald Trump’s personal lawyer but refused it until it could be properly vetted, according to political news site mediaite.com.

Another braindead Liberal holding on by his fingernails.



"...the e-mail showing that Hunter and Jim Biden, Joe’s brother, were part of a group trying to set up a partnership with Chinese individuals, involving energy projects and perhaps American infrastructure. Millions of dollars were being discussed, making the deal a windfall for the Bidens and a propaganda coup for China.


The e-mail, sent from one of the American partners to Hunter and two others, detailed large cash payments to the partners as well as eventual equity stakes. Hunter, referred to as “H,” was to get 20 percent, and the deal listed “10 Jim” and “10 held by H for the big guy?”

Sources have confirmed to Fox News that the “big guy” was Joe Biden. I have been told by another person with knowledge of the arrangement that there are documents and other proof of Joe Biden’s involvement."

nypost.com


Hey, Joe Biden, what did you know about Hunter’s dirty deals?: Goodwin
Now that some secrets of the Biden family business are no longer secrets, it’s easy to imagine Joe Biden asking the same question Robert Redford asked in the 1972 film “The Candidate.” After winnin…
nypost.com

nypost.com

1603130445895.png







Not......what was that about "unraveling"??????
First 2 sentences alone is just a waste of my time reading the rest of your post. Your post has NOTHING to do what I was talking about ............ why that Russian assets Giuliani went to NY post instead of Fox News. Go back and TRY AGAIN.


Everyone knows it's true, and proof of what was revealed months back.


Now....what is it that makes Hunter Biden, crack-addict, ne'er-do-well, with no experience in gas or oil, kicked out of the Navy, never visited the Ukraine....worth millions and billions?



Interesting that when Biden was VP, he and his son Hunter went to deal with China, and Hunter came away with $millions.....

But Trump is immune to the bribes.


"The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China
In 2013, then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden flew aboard Air Force Two to China. Less than two weeks later, Hunter Biden’s firm inked a $1 billion private equity deal with a subsidiary of the Chinese government’s Bank of China. The deal was later expanded to $1.5 billion. In short, the Chinese government funded a business that it co-owned along with the son of a sitting vice president."
The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China


Sounds a lot like the $145 million Putin gave the Clintons.




The irony is astounding.....for years it was the lie that Trump was a Russian asset.....



......now we have proof......PROOF......that the Democrat candidate is a Russian, Ukrainian, Chinese employee.
Try again.

Selling out American foreign policy:

Keep tryin. One of these days you’ll get it right. I’m not going to waste my time opening you video.

Now, what is the service that the Bidens could provide for the Communist Chinese?????



"...in the last week the Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike Group was deployed to the South China Sea? Let’s examine this development and then tie it in to the growing Biden uber-scandal.

Per USNI News, October 15, 2020:
The carrier strike group] is now operating in the South China Sea for the third time as part of its current underway period. Meanwhile, a destroyer made a transit of the Taiwan Strait on Wednesday.

USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76) and its strike group passed through the Strait of Malacca and entered the South China Sea on Monday, according to ship spotters. Accompanying the carrier was guided-missile cruiser USS Antietam (CG-54) and destroyer USS Halsey (DDG-97).
Why has the U.S. sent a strike group back for a third time recently? More from the USNI News report:

USS Barry (DDG-52) passed through the strait on Wednesday, a first for a U.S. warship since Aug. 31. “The ship’s transit through the Taiwan Strait demonstrates the U.S. commitment to a free and open Indo-Pacific,” read the statement. [italics added]
This brings us back to the Hunter Biden laptop and the forebodings among the emails contained therein. If the emails are the revelations they appear, Joe Biden not only knew about Hunter Biden’s and his associates’ influence-peddling with Chinese oligarchs, but facilitated it, granting access to them with him and, likely, other Obama administration high officials. Worse still, emails on the laptop implicate Joe Biden in substantial skims or cuts of “fees” paid to Hunter Biden. "
www.americanthinker.com

Do the Chinese Own Joe Biden?
Americans will need to come to grips with a mounting, deadly serious crisis. The Democrat nominee for the presidency appears saturated with corruption, and worse -- yes, there’s a worse here -- he’s compromised himself to foreign po...
www.americanthinker.com
www.americanthinker.com




I wonder you know where the South China Sea is, and how much of the world's commercial traffic passes through it.


Look it up.


Paying the Bidens was worth every penny to the Chinese.
And apparently, Google is using Chinese Communist Censors to control our domestic search results. So, the choice is pretty easy this election are you for the Chinese Communist Party and the Domestic Terrorists of BLM/Antifa, or are you for safe lawful communities, the rule of law and the American Worker?

For anything political, I use Duckduckgo or one of the others.

The difference is astounding.
 

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But I don’t recall shutting down the Clinton Foundation. Do you have a link where they shut down the Clinton Foundation? Link.
The Clintons had more than one foundation. Using smoke and mirrors, one of the unused ones is up and running. The family foundation, the Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Foundation is the one they used as their private piggy bank. It is shut down.
Nah! Do you expect me to believe you? Do you have a link to prove what you are saying? If it shut down dont you think that should/could have bern discussed many times?
PROVE IT.
Already posted a WSJ link.
You are lying again. Where’s the Link?

It’s just funny that your buddy Markle cannot come up with a link. You would think he has that ready.
It’s in this thread. Go fetch, Leftist. If I find that post do you promise to leave this board forever?
 
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