Number of gun murders by year in the U.S......

[2aguy]

I found this as a link in an article about the people who die in Canada waiting for medical treatment.......

Number of homicides by firearm in the U.S. 2023 | Statista

In 2023, 13,529 recorded murders in the United States were committed by firearm.

www.statista.com

The original article where I found the link...

Guns Don't Kill People. Canada Kills People.

townhall.com

So around 30,000 people die waiting for healthcare that never comes or are euthanized by the Canadian government.
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Meanwhile, how many Americans were killed with a gun in 2023, which mostly lines up with this time period? 13,529.

The United States has more than eight times the population of Canada, and even massive death and destruction brought about by our gun policy pales in comparison to the number of people the Canadian government managed to kill during that period.

 

[JoeB131]

I found this as a link in an article about the people who die in Canada waiting for medical treatment.......

Number of homicides by firearm in the U.S. 2023 | Statista

In 2023, 13,529 recorded murders in the United States were committed by firearm.

www.statista.com

The original article where I found the link...

Guns Don't Kill People. Canada Kills People.

townhall.com

So around 30,000 people die waiting for healthcare that never comes or are euthanized by the Canadian government.
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Meanwhile, how many Americans were killed with a gun in 2023, which mostly lines up with this time period? 13,529.

The United States has more than eight times the population of Canada, and even massive death and destruction brought about by our gun policy pales in comparison to the number of people the Canadian government managed to kill during that period.

The problem is, most of the people who are euthanized choose euthanasia when their cases are terminal, so that's dishonest.

Unless you want to count al the gun suicides in this country, and then you are up over 40,000.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

The problem is, most of the people who are euthanized choose euthanasia when their cases are terminal, so that's dishonest.

Unless you want to count al the gun suicides in this country, and then you are up over 40,000.

The delusion that suicidal people won't kill themselves if they don't have a gun.

 

[JoeB131]

The delusion that suicidal people won't kill themselves if they don't have a gun.

A gun makes murder and suicide easier, that's the point

 

[M14 Shooter]

The delusion that suicidal people won't kill themselves if they don't have a gun.

Right?
Gun control laws can only affect the suicides of people who do not already have a gun, cannot legally purchase a gun, cannot obtain a gun illegally, and will only kill themselves with a gun.

That number approaches zero.

 

[2aguy]

A gun makes murder and suicide easier, that's the point

Then you have to explain why Japan, South Korea and China all have higher suicide rates than the United States....with their extreme gun control.

 

[M14 Shooter]

A gun makes murder and suicide easier, that's the point

So... there's no actual point.
Cool. Thanks.

 

[Bell Huey]

A gun makes murder and suicide easier, that's the point

But you still have to make the choice, as in euthanasia.

 

[JoeB131]

Then you have to explain why Japan, South Korea and China all have higher suicide rates than the United States....with their extreme gun control.

I've already explained it to you.

In their societies, suicide is considered acceptable and even honorable.

 

[whitehall]

You can use statistics to make almost any political point you want if you leave out certain details. The 13,529 firearms death figure might be accurate but it includes suicides, Police shootings, home defense and the usual criminal suspects. How many existing laws were broken? The bottom line is that Canada has crappy emergency response and medical treatment and the U.S. needs to enforce existing gun laws and close the borders.

 

[Captain Caveman]

The delusion that suicidal people won't kill themselves if they don't have a gun.

Aren’t people who want to die by suicide going to find a way to do it, one way or another?

That’s a common belief. But it’s wrong. Nine of 10 people who attempt suicide survive, and people who survive a suicide attempt overwhelmingly do not go on to die by suicide.

The exception, of course, is when someone tries to kill themselves with a gun. When a firearm is involved, 90 percent of suicide attempts end in death.

Get the Facts - Project Unloaded

It’s the guns. Gun violence touches every corner of America. But where there are fewer guns, there are fewer gun deaths. Scroll down to learn why Jump to resources The United States is in the midst of a gun violence epidemic. On the average day in America, more than 130 people are killed by gun […]

projectunloaded.org

 

[2aguy]

I've already explained it to you.

In their societies, suicide is considered acceptable and even honorable.

And you keep trying to use that lame ass dodge....it doesn't matter if suicide is part of their culture.........they do not have guns to do it.......they have more suicides than we do using tall buildings, trains, and cleaning products......so your attempt to lie about this is just stupid.....

 

[2aguy]

Aren’t people who want to die by suicide going to find a way to do it, one way or another?

That’s a common belief. But it’s wrong. Nine of 10 people who attempt suicide survive, and people who survive a suicide attempt overwhelmingly do not go on to die by suicide.

The exception, of course, is when someone tries to kill themselves with a gun. When a firearm is involved, 90 percent of suicide attempts end in death.

Get the Facts - Project Unloaded

It’s the guns. Gun violence touches every corner of America. But where there are fewer guns, there are fewer gun deaths. Scroll down to learn why Jump to resources The United States is in the midst of a gun violence epidemic. On the average day in America, more than 130 people are killed by gun […]

projectunloaded.org

No, dipshit....as pointed out to Joe, above.....the Japanese, South Koreans, and Chinese manage to kill themselves at higher rates without guns.....

 

[2aguy]

Aren’t people who want to die by suicide going to find a way to do it, one way or another?

That’s a common belief. But it’s wrong. Nine of 10 people who attempt suicide survive, and people who survive a suicide attempt overwhelmingly do not go on to die by suicide.

The exception, of course, is when someone tries to kill themselves with a gun. When a firearm is involved, 90 percent of suicide attempts end in death.

Get the Facts - Project Unloaded

It’s the guns. Gun violence touches every corner of America. But where there are fewer guns, there are fewer gun deaths. Scroll down to learn why Jump to resources The United States is in the midst of a gun violence epidemic. On the average day in America, more than 130 people are killed by gun […]

projectunloaded.org

Keep in mind........

Case Closed: Kleck Is Still Correct

There are roughly 100,000 people shot in the United States yearly, and something over 30,000 die. If this 1/3 vs. 2/3 ratio of deaths to injuries in actual shootings pertains in these DGUs, that makes for at least 176,000 lives saved—less some attackers who lost their lives to defenders. This enormous benefit dwarfs, both in human and economic terms, the losses trumpeted by hoplophobes who only choose to see the risk side of the equation.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/06/case-closed-kleck-is-still-correct/

Europe...

In the 1920s, they began the process of registering guns....to make their people safer. That was the lie. by the mid 1930s, the socialists in Germany began the process of banning and confiscating guns, and the same for the countries they defeated......using the gun registration lists created in the 1920s....

By 1939, the German socialists began to murder 15 million - 20 million people....in 6 years.....men, women and over 1 million children.

6 years, 15 million- 20 million murdered citizens..not war dead, innocent people rounded up and murdered in camps and forests....

Including 1 million children

15 million in 6 years.

In the United States, gun murder for our entire 247 year history?

Around 2,470,000

Europe.... 15-20 million murdered in 6 years.

U.S..... 2,470,000 murdered in 247 years

How many hundreds of years will it take the U.S. to catch up with the number of Europeans murdered by their governments.....

Lives saved....based on research? By law abiding gun owners using guns to stop criminals?

 

[Captain Caveman]

You can use statistics to make almost any political point you want if you leave out certain details. The 13,529 firearms death figure might be accurate but it includes suicides, Police shootings, home defense and the usual criminal suspects. How many existing laws were broken? The bottom line is that Canada has crappy emergency response and medical treatment and the U.S. needs to enforce existing gun laws and close the borders.

Canada 32nd, UK 34th, and US 69th

The Best Healthcare in the World: Country Rankings

Discover the countries with the best healthcare in 2024 and learn about the key factors that make Italy, Singapore, and Iceland top the list.

www.internationalinsurance.com

You need to quit believing those indoctrinated myths and stop flag hugging.

 

[JoeB131]

And you keep trying to use that lame ass dodge....it doesn't matter if suicide is part of their culture.........they do not have guns to do it

And as a result, thousands more who attempt suicide manage to survive... as opposed to if they had guns where they wouldn't.

 

[marvin martian]

A gun makes murder and suicide easier, that's the point

So does a truck.

 

[2aguy]

And as a result, thousands more who attempt suicide manage to survive... as opposed to if they had guns where they wouldn't.

Yeah...no, you dumb ass........again....Japan has more people succeed in committing suicide than we do.....you moron.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah...no, you dumb ass........again....Japan has more people succeed in committing suicide than we do.....you moron.

Because they have a culture that believes suicide is honorable. They have a whole forest where people go just to kill themselves, despite the best efforts of the government to stop it.


We, on the other hand, live in a society where suicide is considered a sin and a really jerky thing to do. (When you think about it, killing yourself is just rude to the person who has to find the body.)

 

[2aguy]

Because they have a culture that believes suicide is honorable. They have a whole forest where people go just to kill themselves, despite the best efforts of the government to stop it.


We, on the other hand, live in a society where suicide is considered a sin and a really jerky thing to do. (When you think about it, killing yourself is just rude to the person who has to find the body.)

Moron......I know you have to dodge the truth since it is not on your side....

It doesn't f*cking matter why they commit suicide.......the only point that matters is that they commit suicide and succeed at committing suicide more than Americans do....and they do not have access to guns......you lame ass, moron....