Now, Trump wants to charge 14-year-olds as criminals

[Luckyone]

If the punks want to commit adult level crimes then they should receive adult level punishment. Juvenile Hall can't or won't rehabilitate them. They get slaps on their wrists then are set free to commit more violent crimes. Why should the law-abiding public endure these punk's ongoing acts of civil terror?

First of all, there is a difference between a 14-yearold and an 18-yearold from the point of view of brain development:

AI Overview

An 18-year-old generally has a more developed ability to differentiate right from wrong compared to a 14-year-old, primarily due to a combination of brain
development and increased life experience. A 14-year-old's prefrontal cortex, responsible for decision-making and impulse control, is still maturing, and they tend to be more focused on immediate consequences. In contrast, an 18-year-old has a greater capacity for longer-term planning and a broader understanding of cause and effect, though their psychosocial maturity may still be developing.

As such and without a judge's approval (after seeing all the details) should not be charged as an adult!!!!!

 

[Hafar1014]

First of all, there is a difference between a 14-yearold and an 18-yearold from the point of view of brain development:

AI Overview

An 18-year-old generally has a more developed ability to differentiate right from wrong compared to a 14-year-old, primarily due to a combination of brain
development and increased life experience. A 14-year-old's prefrontal cortex, responsible for decision-making and impulse control, is still maturing, and they tend to be more focused on immediate consequences. In contrast, an 18-year-old has a greater capacity for longer-term planning and a broader understanding of cause and effect, though their psychosocial maturity may still be developing.

As such and without a judge's approval (after seeing all the details) should not be charged as an adult!!!!!

SO WHAT The brain isnt developed until age 25. If they are violent then they need to be locked up in a mental hospital or a prison. The limbic system controls what the prefrontal cortex sets as a goal. This is about emotional disturbances and moral values. The first priority is to keep people safe.

 

[westwall]

First of all, there is a difference between a 14-yearold and an 18-yearold from the point of view of brain development:

AI Overview

An 18-year-old generally has a more developed ability to differentiate right from wrong compared to a 14-year-old, primarily due to a combination of brain
development and increased life experience. A 14-year-old's prefrontal cortex, responsible for decision-making and impulse control, is still maturing, and they tend to be more focused on immediate consequences. In contrast, an 18-year-old has a greater capacity for longer-term planning and a broader understanding of cause and effect, though their psychosocial maturity may still be developing.

As such and without a judge's approval (after seeing all the details) should not be charged as an adult!!!!!

And? Are you not as dead?

 

[Luckyone]

SO WHAT The brain isnt developed until age 25. If they are violent then they need to be locked up in a mental hospital or a prison. The limbic system controls what the prefrontal cortex sets as a goal. This is about emotional disturbances and moral values. The first priority is to keep people safe.

Neither of us can make such a determination. That is why a judge is needed to evaluate the information of the individual personally before he can make a decision on how that person should be judged.

What you guys are doing is making a blanket statement that all underage people that do criminal acts should be judged as adults. That is not what needs to happen.

Ever hear of mental illness? Ever hear of mental distress that could have been created by some event from the past that was transforming (such as your mother being slaughtered or your father abusing you) and that left you with brain scars that have not been fixed?

You guys making such blanket statements without knowing the details of the accused person is totally a statement of hate and ignorance.

 

[Kondor3]

If a minor commits a violent crime they should be tried and sentenced just like adults.

Courts should be able to sentence them much like adults but with some minor variations to account for their age.

Minors found guilty of capital crimes should be eligible for the Death Penalty only in a very narrow range of circumstances and subjected to such a stringent scrutiny that the actual execution of such a sentence should be a remarkable rarity.

Minors found guilty of capital crimes who are NOT sentenced to Death should automatically be sentenced to Life Imprisonment Without the Possibility of Parole.

Minors should be incarcerated in Juvenile Correctional Facilities until they attain the age of 18.

Once they turn 18 they should be sent to adult prison facilities to complete their sentences.

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It seems likely that Trump will need to "turn the screws" on the local Washington DC legal system to make that happen.

 

[Hafar1014]

Neither of us can make such a determination. That is why a judge is needed to evaluate the information of the individual personally before he can make a decision on how that person should be judged.

What you guys are doing is making a blanket statement that all underage people that do criminal acts should be judged as adults. That is not what needs to happen.

Ever hear of mental illness? Ever hear of mental distress that could have been created by some event from the past that was transforming (such as your mother being slaughtered or your father abusing you) and that left you with brain scars that have not been fixed?

You guys making such blanket statements without knowing the details of the accused person is totally a statement of hate and ignorance.

Mental illness is not legal insanity and its not an excuse for violent crime. It depends on the act and the DA makes that judgement. In Wash DC they refused to prosecute anyone age 22 and under and crime exploded.

Minors are prosecuted as adults if they are charged with a serious felony, have a history of repeat offenses, or have demonstrated a high level of criminal sophistication. Key factors include the severity of the crime (like murder or armed robbery), the minor's age (often 16 or older, but sometimes lower for specific offenses), and whether past rehabilitation efforts have failed.

 

[Luckyone]

Mental illness is not legal insanity and its not an excuse for violent crime. It depends on the act and the DA makes that judgement. In Wash DC they refused to prosecute anyone age 22 and under and crime exploded.

Minors are prosecuted as adults if they are charged with a serious felony, have a history of repeat offenses, or have demonstrated a high level of criminal sophistication. Key factors include the severity of the crime (like murder or armed robbery), the minor's age (often 16 or older, but sometimes lower for specific offenses), and whether past rehabilitation efforts have failed.

You made a "blanket" statement and left no option for special cases to be prosecuted differently!!!!

 

[Hafar1014]

You made a "blanket" statement and left no option for special cases to be prosecuted differently!!!!

Every state has specific criteria. You made the blanket statement
Discretional Waiver. When a child is at least 14 years old and is accused of a felony, the juvenile court may transfer the case to the adult court system if it finds that the public interest would be better protected. The law specifies several factors that must be considered in determining the public interest.

These factors include:

• The minor shows a willingness for treatment, supervision, and rehabilitation.
• The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania must provide evidence proving the public interest would be better served by a transfer to the adult court system and that the child is not agreeable to treatment, supervision, and rehabilitation.

Presumptive Waiver. If the minor is 14 years old or older and uses a deadly weapon in the commission of the felony or if the minor is 15 years old or older and commits any serious offense such as rape or assault, then there is a presumption that the public interest would be better served by having the minor face criminal prosecution.

What is Statutory Exclusion in Pennsylvania?​

Statutory Exclusion. There are situations in which a minor will always be charged as an adult. This is known as statutory exclusion and happens in cases involving:

• Murder. A minor will be charged as an adult for murder. Anyone charged with murder, no matter how young, will be charged as an adult in the state of Pennsylvania.
• Voluntary manslaughter. A minor 15 years old or older can face voluntary manslaughter charges if a weapon was used in the commission of the crime or if the minor was previously adjudicated for one of several felonious offenses, such as rape or robbery.
• Crimes with a deadly weapon. A minor 15 years old or older can be charged as an adult for rape, involuntary deviant sexual intercourse, aggravated assault, robbery, robbery of a motor vehicle, aggravated indecent assault, or kidnapping if the minor uses a deadly weapon.

What are Examples of Minors Facing the Adult Court System in Pennsylvania?​

Leigh High Valley New – Allentown, Pennsylvania

Exzavier Scales, who was 17 when he was charged but is 18 now, was one of five teens charged as an adult in the Oct. 25 attack that hospitalized two teen boys.

Javien Sabater, who was 15 at the time, previously had his adult charges sent to juvenile court. On Tuesday, Lehigh County Judge James Anthony did the same thing for Scales; he remains free on 10 percent of $100,000 bail.

The other three adult defendants — Brian Pearsall, Isaiah Alarcon and Joushten Rodriguez — are all 18 and still awaiting trial in their cases.

Prosecutors allege the teens were part of an attack after school that involved a mob of 50 Dieruff High School students, 20 of whom attacked two teen boys.

The students charged as juveniles in the attack all reached agreements with prosecutors in juvenile court, where they admitted to charges of a felony count of riot and a misdemeanor count of simple assault.

Oren, who is a home-schooled 11th grader with a full-time job in the landscaping trade, is being charged as an adult because a weapon was used in the crime, authorities said.

Dingle and Oren are charged with robbery, conspiracy, theft and receiving stolen property. Dingle faces the additional charge of committing a crime with a firearm.

The Local Daily News – West Chester, Pennsylvania.

The woman detailed the ordeal suffered by her mother-in-law on the stand before Common Pleas Judge John Hall at the start of the three-hour-long preliminary hearing in the case of the 17-year-old teen.

On her head was duct taped a reusable cloth grocery bag. She had been without food or water for four days.

At the conclusion of the hearing, Judge Hall ordered the teen held on charges of attempted homicide, robbery, burglary, aggravated assault, strangulation, and related counts. The juvenile, whose name is being withheld by the Daily Local News, as are the identities of the victim and her daughter-in-law, was returned to the Chester County Youth Center at the conclusion of the hearing at the county Justice Center.

In addition to the attack on the woman, the teen is believed to have stolen credit cards, a laptop computer, cell home and the victim’s car, a Fiat 500. Dressed in a charcoal gray suit and a royal blue dress shirt but in shackles, the teen did not testify during the proceeding and made no statement to the court.

Pennsylvania’s second-degree murder law lets the jury convict anyone involved in a conspiracy to commit a felony crime that results in the death of the victim, regardless of whether they used the weapon.

 

[Luckyone]

If a minor commits a violent crime they should be tried and sentenced just like adults.

Courts should be able to sentence them much like adults but with some minor variations to account for their age.

Minors found guilty of capital crimes should be eligible for the Death Penalty only in a very narrow range of circumstances and subjected to such a stringent scrutiny that the actual execution of such a sentence should be a remarkable rarity.

Minors found guilty of capital crimes who are NOT sentenced to Death should automatically be sentenced to Life Imprisonment Without the Possibility of Parole.

Minors should be incarcerated in Juvenile Correctional Facilities until they attain the age of 18.

Once they turn 18 they should be sent to adult prison facilities to complete their sentences.

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It seems likely that Trump will need to "turn the screws" on the local Washington DC legal system to make that happen.

Every state has specific criteria. You made the blanket statement
Discretional Waiver. When a child is at least 14 years old and is accused of a felony, the juvenile court may transfer the case to the adult court system if it finds that the public interest would be better protected. The law specifies several factors that must be considered in determining the public interest.

These factors include:

• The minor shows a willingness for treatment, supervision, and rehabilitation.
• The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania must provide evidence proving the public interest would be better served by a transfer to the adult court system and that the child is not agreeable to treatment, supervision, and rehabilitation.

Presumptive Waiver. If the minor is 14 years old or older and uses a deadly weapon in the commission of the felony or if the minor is 15 years old or older and commits any serious offense such as rape or assault, then there is a presumption that the public interest would be better served by having the minor face criminal prosecution.

What is Statutory Exclusion in Pennsylvania?​

Statutory Exclusion. There are situations in which a minor will always be charged as an adult. This is known as statutory exclusion and happens in cases involving:

• Murder. A minor will be charged as an adult for murder. Anyone charged with murder, no matter how young, will be charged as an adult in the state of Pennsylvania.
• Voluntary manslaughter. A minor 15 years old or older can face voluntary manslaughter charges if a weapon was used in the commission of the crime or if the minor was previously adjudicated for one of several felonious offenses, such as rape or robbery.
• Crimes with a deadly weapon. A minor 15 years old or older can be charged as an adult for rape, involuntary deviant sexual intercourse, aggravated assault, robbery, robbery of a motor vehicle, aggravated indecent assault, or kidnapping if the minor uses a deadly weapon.

What are Examples of Minors Facing the Adult Court System in Pennsylvania?​

Leigh High Valley New – Allentown, Pennsylvania


The Local Daily News – West Chester, Pennsylvania.

Thanks, you made MY point!!!

 

[Hafar1014]

Thanks, you made MY point!!!

Your point was an amatures understanding of psychology.

 

[Delldude]

Your point was an armatures understanding of psychology.

AI queen

 

[Concerned American]

First of all, there is a difference between a 14-yearold and an 18-yearold from the point of view of brain development:

AI Overview

An 18-year-old generally has a more developed ability to differentiate right from wrong compared to a 14-year-old, primarily due to a combination of brain
development and increased life experience. A 14-year-old's prefrontal cortex, responsible for decision-making and impulse control, is still maturing, and they tend to be more focused on immediate consequences. In contrast, an 18-year-old has a greater capacity for longer-term planning and a broader understanding of cause and effect, though their psychosocial maturity may still be developing.

As such and without a judge's approval (after seeing all the details) should not be charged as an adult!!!!!

Any 14 year old that has had any parental or social guidance at all knows that assault and murder are wrong and illegal. If they don't, they need to be incarcerated for as long as it takes to teach them what their parents didn't.

 

[sealybobo]

Get a ******* life.

You get a life. I had a great Thanksgiving weekend. Came here with good intentions. Read your snarky post, replied, and now you are being such a little *****. Where is this coming from? It must be your pathetic life.

Remember, just because the 1st half of the game sucked doesn't mean you can't come back and win the 2nd half. Even if you lose the game, at least you can say you won the 2nd half. Can you? Can you say that? Then why such an angry little *****? We're just busting balls talking politics. YOU get a life bro. YOU.

 

[SaxonJackson]

First of all, there is a difference between a 14-yearold and an 18-yearold from the point of view of brain development:

AI Overview

An 18-year-old generally has a more developed ability to differentiate right from wrong compared to a 14-year-old, primarily due to a combination of brain
development and increased life experience. A 14-year-old's prefrontal cortex, responsible for decision-making and impulse control, is still maturing, and they tend to be more focused on immediate consequences. In contrast, an 18-year-old has a greater capacity for longer-term planning and a broader understanding of cause and effect, though their psychosocial maturity may still be developing.

As such and without a judge's approval (after seeing all the details) should not be charged as an adult!!!!!

We judge by the actions of the individual. If a 14 year old makes a single mistake and learns from that mistake, then there's hope for that individual. If he continues to repeatedly commit violent acts and time again. then he's incapable of learning and growing and should be treated differently than the average 14 year old. They can't be allowed to terrorize neighborhoods just because they're a younger mass murderer than the 18 or 36 year old mass murderer.

 

[Jarlaxle]

First of all, there is a difference between a 14-yearold and an 18-yearold from the point of view of brain development:

AI Overview

An 18-year-old generally has a more developed ability to differentiate right from wrong compared to a 14-year-old, primarily due to a combination of brain
development and increased life experience. A 14-year-old's prefrontal cortex, responsible for decision-making and impulse control, is still maturing, and they tend to be more focused on immediate consequences. In contrast, an 18-year-old has a greater capacity for longer-term planning and a broader understanding of cause and effect, though their psychosocial maturity may still be developing.

As such and without a judge's approval (after seeing all the details) should not be charged as an adult!!!!!

Then by all means, let's park one of these thugs with YOU after they get out!

 

[Luckyone]

Then by all means, let's park one of these thugs with YOU after they get out!

FYI There was a 14-year old thug (what you call them) living right next door to me, and not only did he respect me, but we talked about his thoughts and feelings and the times he had been in jail, and I gave him advice on what to do to fix them in his mind. I do not know if he took my advice or not, but he was always a nice person to me. He even helped me and my physically handicapped condition several times!

you need to always keep in mind this adage "you reap what you sow"

 

[Robert W]

FYI There was a 14-year old thug (what you call them) living right next door to me, and not only did he respect me, but we talked about his thoughts and feelings and the times he had been in jail, and I gave him advice on what to do to fix them in his mind. I do not know if he took my advice or not, but he was always a nice person to me. He even helped me and my physically handicapped condition several times!

you need to always keep in mind this adage "you reap what you sow"

You dodged a bullet.

 

[Delldude]

you need to always keep in mind this adage "you reap what you sow"

That's how he wound up in jail.

 

[Concerned American]

FYI There was a 14-year old thug (what you call them) living right next door to me, and not only did he respect me, but we talked about his thoughts and feelings and the times he had been in jail, and I gave him advice on what to do to fix them in his mind. I do not know if he took my advice or not, but he was always a nice person to me. He even helped me and my physically handicapped condition several times!

you need to always keep in mind this adage "you reap what you sow"

That's how the sheep felt about the wolf. But, its OK, its in the wolf's nature to eat sheep.

 

[westwall]

FYI There was a 14-year old thug (what you call them) living right next door to me, and not only did he respect me, but we talked about his thoughts and feelings and the times he had been in jail, and I gave him advice on what to do to fix them in his mind. I do not know if he took my advice or not, but he was always a nice person to me. He even helped me and my physically handicapped condition several times!

you need to always keep in mind this adage "you reap what you sow"

sure, sure thing..."cornpop"!