Now For The Last Nail In This Coffin....

[Penelope]

What happened was a foreign backed coup in our country, not just in Florida, but our whole country.

Are you, OP, a Republican , if so you can now watch the demise of the Republican political party.

Get ready to be screwed unless you were born in a wealthy family, which I believe is your case.

 

[PoliticalChic]

QED......the candidate of Vladimir Putin was Hillary Clinton and the Democrats.

Even if the accusations against Hillary prove to be true, that doesn't mean the accusations against Trump are false. Putin is too smart to put all his eggs in any one basket. I'm not convinced he really cared who won, I think he cared most about tarnishing the US democratic system so the Russian people won't be jealous.

Since you're here....can I get you to autograph your picture?

 

[Redfish]

When are the Republicans going to leave her alone. All she did was her job. You Pubs are just trying to avert attention away from the Trump gangsters.

"When are the Republicans going to leave her alone. All she did was her job."


Let's check.


"FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow
Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in 2010 giving Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium, the FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States, according to government documents and interviews.

Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009...

....documented how Bill Clinton collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in Russian speaking fees and his charitable foundation collected millions in donations from parties interested in the deal while Hillary Clinton presided on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States.

....Attorney General Eric Holder was among the Obama administration officials joining Hillary Clinton...."
FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow




Now....can we agree that you're either a liar or a moron????

our friends on the left will never admit that their heroine is dirty. Their little minds just cannot allow that thought to enter them. Trying to convince them is like pissing into the wind and complaining that your shoes are wet.

 

[edthecynic]

The Russians paid $145 million to the Clinton Crime Family, and in return appropriated a large portion of our uranium.
They have energy....so it in to be used for weapons......
Against whom?
Us.

Oh the pure STUPIDITY of the pathological lying Right!!!!!!!
Thank you.

 

[Redfish]

What happened was a foreign backed coup in our country, not just in Florida, but our whole country.

Are you, OP, a Republican , if so you can now watch the demise of the Republican political party.

Get ready to be screwed unless you were born in a wealthy family, which I believe is your case.

the coup failed, Hillary lost.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. Four months ago this thread claimed.....and proved .....that Putin's dream for the presidency was none other than the career criminal and congenital liar, Hillary Clinton:

Time To Reveal Who Putin Wanted As President

Through the months,the Left/Democrats/Liberals have engineered a full court press to tie Trump to the Kremlin which, in light of the last week's revelations, proves the axiom
"To know what the Left is doing, note what they blame the other side for."



2. In the last several day's we've learned
a. The Russians paid $145 million to the Clinton Crime Family, and in return appropriated a large portion of our uranium.
They have energy....so it in to be used for weapons......
Against whom?
Us.


b. Bill was slipped $500,000 to give a fake speech.
See a. above.

c. " Former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta exits after ... a company that received $35 million from the Russian government..."
http://nypost.com/2017/07/05/uncovering-the-russia-ties-of-hillarys-campaign-chief/

d. "WASHINGTON — Tony Podesta and the Podesta Group are now the subjects of a federal investigation being led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller,...violated the Foreign Agents Registration Act, known as FARA."
Mueller now investigating Democratic lobbyist Tony Podesta
Russian spies influencing the Obama/Clinton administration via bribes.

e. In 11 months of thorough investigations, there has not been a smidgen of evidence of any connections of Trump to the Russians.





3. Now....the last nail in the Democrat Coffin, proof of their collusion with Moscow.
The infamous dossier, designed to sink the Trump campaign....
It cam from the Kremlin.

a· "Perhaps the two most damaging claims are an allegation of ongoing collusion between Trump campaign officials and Russian intelligence, facilitating the sharing of sensitive information beneficial to both sides; and an allegation that Russia has video footage of Trump watching sex workers engage in a sex act.

· The memos, dated June 20 to October 20 of last year – are based on the former intelligence agent’s “recent interactions with Russian sources,” according to an interview he conducted with Mother Jones’ David Corn in October. An official in the U.S. administration who spoke to the Guardian described the author of the memos as “consistently reliable, meticulous, and well-informed, with a reputation for having extensive Russian contacts.”
What we know about Russia’s “compromising material” on Donald Trump

"Disinformation is false information spread deliberately to deceive.[1][2][3] The English word is a translation of the Russian dezinformatsiya,[1][2][3] derived from the title of a KGB black propaganda department.[4] The book Disinformation documents that Joseph Stalin coined the term,..."
Disinformation - Wikipedia




4. Where did the dossier come from?????
" ....evidence points to Russian involvement—via Hillary financiers and their hired-gun Russia lobby firm Fusion GPS—in fabricating the “dossier” to discredit Trump by claiming that he was part of a conspiracy to help elect himself president.

A Russia expert with 50 years’ experience, writing for Forbes, says the “dossier” reads like it was written by “a Russian trained in the KGB tradition.” Its “poor grammar and shaky spelling” with “KGB-style intelligence reporting” just does not “fit the image” of work by a “highly connected former British intelligence” officer, who was Oxford educated.

It’s not Trump and his associates who should be under scrutiny; it’s Hillary Clinton and her paid operatives—and their ties to Russia.

[Supposed author of the dossier,] Steele was a “confirmed socialist” in college at Oxford when he was hired by MI6, another point of suspicion for someone who would be dispatched to Moscow as a spy and later serve as head of the Russian desk at MI6, all extremely sensitive positions." The Final Truth about the “Trump Dossier”



5. Russia is a dictatorship.
Nothing emanates from Moscow without Putin's imprimatur....
The 'information' in the dossier came from Russia.


QED......the candidate of Vladimir Putin was Hillary Clinton and the Democrats.

I won't go through each point, but I will dress a couple, with my usual length lol.

If it was Russian sourced, it would have been fabricated by some low level agents looking to make some money. Therefore a win/win for everyone. Steele could get it for a relatively low sum and could argue how well sourced it was while possibly making it his own with some changes here and there. The speed and ease in which he obtained this information alone should have raised eyebrows.

Based on your information from Forbes, it could very well just be something provided by a Russian agent, but I would suggest if it was, it was someone looking for some cash, it most certainly would not be legitimate intel. Most likely, it was just Steele producing such a document himseld and making it appear as if it was from a Russian source. Not difficult to represent, especially if this guy had a focus on Russia in his career. Notice how quickly he went into hiding? He's a fraud.

If all of this intelligence really existed and were true, don't you think that the Russians would have had video or audio of the hotel incident? Also, this would have been sold directly to the Democratic Party or NeverTrump group for at least 8 digits, they wouldn't need to give anything to Steele for the subcontracting price he paid (if, he did indeed pay for fake intel). Also, wouldn't someone have attempted to extort vast sums of money from Trump before this campaign years ago? They couldn't because they didn't have such evidence, and, no businessman pays off fake allegations.

I don't think Putin wanted Clinton, I think he would have preferred Trump for a number or reasons. Ultimately though, I don't think he was too concerned with either, he would have been most concerned with a Bush or Cruz in my estimation, anyone else I don't think he was too concerned.

In reality, considering what he knows and has on Clinton, presumably she would be the easiest by far to compromise, but I think Putin would view her as an entrenched politician who would be unkind to Russia because of those around her, her history with him. They clearly don't like each other, much of this probably having to do with how easily he outplayed her in the whole "reset" charade, then he goes into the Ukraine with no resistance.

Putin would have had his hand in the wikileaks and false intel being thrown around on the internet. That's my gut instinct. He wanted to harm Clinton, maybe not sure of how effective it would be, but to put her on notice, that "we can harm you also, even if you are president of the most powerful military". Of course, he's not the only country engaging in this, but it was most effective at a time in which the public was disenchanted with politicians and were seeking a drastic change. Also, it's a safe bet he definitely has damaging stuff on Clinton.

As for the intel from Steele, it's fake, he's a coman and a clown. Was probably not a very good agent, which by British standards it isn't difficult to fall into the daft category. I dont think Putin would have sanctioned this disinformation and I don't think he would even see it as effective or advantageous to Russian interests. Quite the opposite.

"If it was Russian sourced, it would have been fabricated by some low level agents looking to make some money."

Pleeeeeezzzzzzz!

Arguendo.....what do you suppose would happen to any in Russia who composed the anti-Trump dossier, if Putin was a Trump supporter?

 

[Redfish]

The Russians paid $145 million to the Clinton Crime Family, and in return appropriated a large portion of our uranium.
They have energy....so it in to be used for weapons......
Against whom?
Us.

Oh the pure STUPIDITY of the pathological lying Right!!!!!!!
Thank you.

that story is from the NY times. When did they become part of the "pathological right"?

 

[Penelope]

What happened was a foreign backed coup in our country, not just in Florida, but our whole country.

Are you, OP, a Republican , if so you can now watch the demise of the Republican political party.

Get ready to be screwed unless you were born in a wealthy family, which I believe is your case.

the coup failed, Hillary lost.

Trump won, even though Hillary won the maj vote.

"Russia if your listening release the 30,000 emails of Hillary" He also loved WikiLeaks.

 

[PoliticalChic]

What happened was a foreign backed coup in our country, not just in Florida, but our whole country.

Are you, OP, a Republican , if so you can now watch the demise of the Republican political party.

Get ready to be screwed unless you were born in a wealthy family, which I believe is your case.

Since you ask....

I'm a conservative, and vote for the most conservative candidates.
Those are most often Republicans.

My principles are the same as those of the Founders of this nation:
Individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


None of these groups embrace those principles:
Communists, Liberals, Fascists, Nazis, Socialists or Progressives.


Got it?

 

[rightwinger]

Since Hillary is dirty it doesn't automatically mean Putin is.

Dossier was only called "Russian" because the people who faked it made it look that way. But there is no Kremlin involvement in it. British spy Steel, RINOs (McCain has played a huge role in it!) and Hillary's headquarters, that's who needed it, not Kremlin. Let's not forget that dossier has launched the start to all anti-Russian hysteria, you think Russia needed that? No. But Deep State who owned both RINOs and Dems really keep benefiting from it.

There is a good Russian saying: Don't blame the mirror if your face is ugly.

"...there is no Kremlin involvement..."

Nonsense.

In accord with the history of British Intelligence, Steele, an admitted socialist, followed the instruction of the Russians and passed on their program to organization either paid by the Democrats, or in agreement with their fear of a Trump presidency.

Trump didn't have the bribeable history that the Democrats do.



Putin, Steele, GPS Fusion, the Democrats....and the never-Trump Republicans, all wanted to sink Trump.

The Russians fed the 'information' which is known as the dossier.


Putin wanted Hillary as President....not Trump.

Trump has been already saying: he wants cooperation with Russia. Why in the world did Putin have even one reason to sink him?

On the other side, Deep Sate and their puppets were and are (!) terrified of cooperation with Russia. And that's who badly needed to sink Trump.

Putin always said: he was welcoming a person in Washington who wants to cooperate with Russia. And it makes sense. You Americans. have to bury your Establishment before it buries you. And some of you are wasting your time pointing fingers on Russia.

Trump is a puppet

Trump is the one and only POTUS since 90-s who has not been ANYBODY's puppet. That's why Deep State so badly wants to hobble him and potentially to remove him from the office. And you liberals have been gladly helping Deep State to ruin YOUR OWN country.

Crooked Donnie has been a Putin puppet for decades

 

[PoliticalChic]

The Russians paid $145 million to the Clinton Crime Family, and in return appropriated a large portion of our uranium.
They have energy....so it in to be used for weapons......
Against whom?
Us.

Oh the pure STUPIDITY of the pathological lying Right!!!!!!!
Thank you.

I searched your post for any examples lies....

...you seem to have forgotten to include any.


Why is that?

 

[Redfish]

What happened was a foreign backed coup in our country, not just in Florida, but our whole country.

Are you, OP, a Republican , if so you can now watch the demise of the Republican political party.

Get ready to be screwed unless you were born in a wealthy family, which I believe is your case.

the coup failed, Hillary lost.

Trump won, even though Hillary won the maj vote.

"Russia if your listening release the 30,000 emails of Hillary" He also loved WikiLeaks.

Assuange (founder of wikileaks) says that the leaks did not come from Russia. But if you have proof of Russian involvement, please post it.

What happened was a foreign backed coup in our country, not just in Florida, but our whole country.

Are you, OP, a Republican , if so you can now watch the demise of the Republican political party.

Get ready to be screwed unless you were born in a wealthy family, which I believe is your case.

the coup failed, Hillary lost.

Trump won, even though Hillary won the maj vote.

"Russia if your listening release the 30,000 emails of Hillary" He also loved WikiLeaks.

306 electoral college votes for Trump. The lying media pollsters said he had no path to 270 EC votes.''

why would Russia want Trump when they had tons of data to use to blackmail Hillary into doing whatever they wanted? You said they had/have it, sooooooooooooooo

 

[PoliticalChic]

What happened was a foreign backed coup in our country, not just in Florida, but our whole country.

Are you, OP, a Republican , if so you can now watch the demise of the Republican political party.

Get ready to be screwed unless you were born in a wealthy family, which I believe is your case.

the coup failed, Hillary lost.

Trump won, even though Hillary won the maj vote.

"Russia if your listening release the 30,000 emails of Hillary" He also loved WikiLeaks.

Hillary did not win the popular vote....unless you count illegal alien votes....the ones that Obama instructed to go out and vote....illegally.

You know that, don't you?

 

[edthecynic]

The Russians paid $145 million to the Clinton Crime Family, and in return appropriated a large portion of our uranium.
They have energy....so it in to be used for weapons......
Against whom?
Us.

Oh the pure STUPIDITY of the pathological lying Right!!!!!!!
Thank you.

that story is from the NY times. When did they become part of the "pathological right"?

The LIE that the uranium is to be used for Russian weapons against us is NOT in any NY Times story. That lie is purely the fabrication of PompousCheek.
Which makes YOU a pathological liar just like her.

 

[Redfish]

Since Hillary is dirty it doesn't automatically mean Putin is.

Dossier was only called "Russian" because the people who faked it made it look that way. But there is no Kremlin involvement in it. British spy Steel, RINOs (McCain has played a huge role in it!) and Hillary's headquarters, that's who needed it, not Kremlin. Let's not forget that dossier has launched the start to all anti-Russian hysteria, you think Russia needed that? No. But Deep State who owned both RINOs and Dems really keep benefiting from it.

There is a good Russian saying: Don't blame the mirror if your face is ugly.

"...there is no Kremlin involvement..."

Nonsense.

In accord with the history of British Intelligence, Steele, an admitted socialist, followed the instruction of the Russians and passed on their program to organization either paid by the Democrats, or in agreement with their fear of a Trump presidency.

Trump didn't have the bribeable history that the Democrats do.



Putin, Steele, GPS Fusion, the Democrats....and the never-Trump Republicans, all wanted to sink Trump.

The Russians fed the 'information' which is known as the dossier.


Putin wanted Hillary as President....not Trump.

Trump has been already saying: he wants cooperation with Russia. Why in the world did Putin have even one reason to sink him?

On the other side, Deep Sate and their puppets were and are (!) terrified of cooperation with Russia. And that's who badly needed to sink Trump.

Putin always said: he was welcoming a person in Washington who wants to cooperate with Russia. And it makes sense. You Americans. have to bury your Establishment before it buries you. And some of you are wasting your time pointing fingers on Russia.

Trump is a puppet

Trump is the one and only POTUS since 90-s who has not been ANYBODY's puppet. That's why Deep State so badly wants to hobble him and potentially to remove him from the office. And you liberals have been gladly helping Deep State to ruin YOUR OWN country.

Crooked Donnie has been a Putin puppet for decades

Hmmm, did Trump get 500K for a speech in Moscow? Did the Trump foundation get 145 million from Russian owners of Uranium 1 just before the deal giving them title to 20% of our uranium reserves?

The Putin puppet(s) are the Clinton crime family.

 

[PoliticalChic]

What happened was a foreign backed coup in our country, not just in Florida, but our whole country.

Are you, OP, a Republican , if so you can now watch the demise of the Republican political party.

Get ready to be screwed unless you were born in a wealthy family, which I believe is your case.

the coup failed, Hillary lost.

Trump won, even though Hillary won the maj vote.

"Russia if your listening release the 30,000 emails of Hillary" He also loved WikiLeaks.

"Russia if your listening release the 30,000 emails of Hillary" He also loved WikiLeaks."


Another myth....
Watch me shred it:

a. The day before any leaks, wikileaks or otherwise, the RealClearPolitics had Hillary at 48%

b. The election result gave Hillary 48.08% per the election.

Soooo......where is any....ANY....result due to Russia, Putin, Wiki, or Mickey Mouse????

 

[Redfish]

The Russians paid $145 million to the Clinton Crime Family, and in return appropriated a large portion of our uranium.
They have energy....so it in to be used for weapons......
Against whom?
Us.

Oh the pure STUPIDITY of the pathological lying Right!!!!!!!
Thank you.

that story is from the NY times. When did they become part of the "pathological right"?

The LIE that the uranium is to be used for Russian weapons against us is NOT in any NY Times story. That lie is purely the fabrication of PompousCheek.
Which makes YOU a pathological liar just like her.

Since we don't have any idea where the uranium that has left the US ended up. we have no idea what it will be used for. But sleep well, the Clinton crime family has always had your interests first

 

[jc456]

Does ANY RWnut on this board understand that

1. Four months ago this thread claimed.....and proved .....that Putin's dream for the presidency was none other than the career criminal and congenital liar, Hillary Clinton:

Time To Reveal Who Putin Wanted As President

Through the months,the Left/Democrats/Liberals have engineered a full court press to tie Trump to the Kremlin which, in light of the last week's revelations, proves the axiom
"To know what the Left is doing, note what they blame the other side for."



2. In the last several day's we've learned
a. The Russians paid $145 million to the Clinton Crime Family, and in return appropriated a large portion of our uranium.
They have energy....so it in to be used for weapons......
Against whom?
Us.


b. Bill was slipped $500,000 to give a fake speech.
See a. above.

c. " Former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta exits after ... a company that received $35 million from the Russian government..."
http://nypost.com/2017/07/05/uncovering-the-russia-ties-of-hillarys-campaign-chief/

d. "WASHINGTON — Tony Podesta and the Podesta Group are now the subjects of a federal investigation being led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller,...violated the Foreign Agents Registration Act, known as FARA."
Mueller now investigating Democratic lobbyist Tony Podesta
Russian spies influencing the Obama/Clinton administration via bribes.

e. In 11 months of thorough investigations, there has not been a smidgen of evidence of any connections of Trump to the Russians.





3. Now....the last nail in the Democrat Coffin, proof of their collusion with Moscow.
The infamous dossier, designed to sink the Trump campaign....
It cam from the Kremlin.

a· "Perhaps the two most damaging claims are an allegation of ongoing collusion between Trump campaign officials and Russian intelligence, facilitating the sharing of sensitive information beneficial to both sides; and an allegation that Russia has video footage of Trump watching sex workers engage in a sex act.

· The memos, dated June 20 to October 20 of last year – are based on the former intelligence agent’s “recent interactions with Russian sources,” according to an interview he conducted with Mother Jones’ David Corn in October. An official in the U.S. administration who spoke to the Guardian described the author of the memos as “consistently reliable, meticulous, and well-informed, with a reputation for having extensive Russian contacts.”
What we know about Russia’s “compromising material” on Donald Trump

"Disinformation is false information spread deliberately to deceive.[1][2][3] The English word is a translation of the Russian dezinformatsiya,[1][2][3] derived from the title of a KGB black propaganda department.[4] The book Disinformation documents that Joseph Stalin coined the term,..."
Disinformation - Wikipedia




4. Where did the dossier come from?????
" ....evidence points to Russian involvement—via Hillary financiers and their hired-gun Russia lobby firm Fusion GPS—in fabricating the “dossier” to discredit Trump by claiming that he was part of a conspiracy to help elect himself president.

A Russia expert with 50 years’ experience, writing for Forbes, says the “dossier” reads like it was written by “a Russian trained in the KGB tradition.” Its “poor grammar and shaky spelling” with “KGB-style intelligence reporting” just does not “fit the image” of work by a “highly connected former British intelligence” officer, who was Oxford educated.

It’s not Trump and his associates who should be under scrutiny; it’s Hillary Clinton and her paid operatives—and their ties to Russia.

[Supposed author of the dossier,] Steele was a “confirmed socialist” in college at Oxford when he was hired by MI6, another point of suspicion for someone who would be dispatched to Moscow as a spy and later serve as head of the Russian desk at MI6, all extremely sensitive positions." The Final Truth about the “Trump Dossier”



5. Russia is a dictatorship.
Nothing emanates from Moscow without Putin's imprimatur....
The 'information' in the dossier came from Russia.


QED......the candidate of Vladimir Putin was Hillary Clinton and the Democrats.

lol, so right off you admit to starting a duplicate thread on a topic that already has a thread about it?

right so she can say a well deserved I told ya so......people like you are zombies, maybe you'll wake up one day.....but I doubt it

Both of her threads are horseshit. As usual.

ah the old gaslighters tactic. funny stuff. You've been outed. your manipulation is over. the truth is coming out on who is actually the russia russia team. And low and fking behold it's the hitlery campaign, openly admitting to paying for a document from Russia. wow. no more, the game is finally over. you can post all your fking nonsense until you fking grow old, but that is now all it officially is. see ya!!!

 

[edthecynic]

Crooked Donnie has been a Putin puppet for decades

Trump’s Russian Laundromat
How to use Trump Tower and other luxury high-rises to clean dirty money, run an international crime syndicate, and propel a failed real estate developer into the White House.

 

[Redfish]

What happened was a foreign backed coup in our country, not just in Florida, but our whole country.

Are you, OP, a Republican , if so you can now watch the demise of the Republican political party.

Get ready to be screwed unless you were born in a wealthy family, which I believe is your case.

the coup failed, Hillary lost.

Trump won, even though Hillary won the maj vote.

"Russia if your listening release the 30,000 emails of Hillary" He also loved WikiLeaks.

"Russia if your listening release the 30,000 emails of Hillary" He also loved WikiLeaks."


Another myth....
Watch me shred it:

a. The day before any leaks, wikileaks or otherwise, the RealClearPolitics had Hillary at 48%

b. The election result gave Hillary 48.08% per the election.

Soooo......where is any....ANY....result due to Russia, Putin, Wiki, or Mickey Mouse????

good point. I have been asking our left wingers for months to tell us exactly what Russia did and how many votes were changed as a result. nothing but crickets