Nothing ever really was going to get better until that regime went away," - BIll Maher

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"We've lost 13 American soldiers in a war that the American people and, by the way, most of the global community, has no idea why the hell we went there in the first place," Shapiro said.

"I think people have an idea," Maher countered.

"What was the reason we went in?" Shapiro asked.

"Everything you said – the nukes, regime change, and just to reshuffle the deck in the Middle East. Nothing ever really was going to get better until that regime went away," Maher replied, prompting chuckles from the audience.

Maher then added, "But we'll see what happens."


My opinion is that the war was started for all of those reasons, particularly that Iran has been the turd in the punchbowl of the region for more than forty years, and enough was enough.

We will indeed see what happens, but the only way for the war to be unsuccessful is for an even worse, or at least equally bad, regime to take over and go right back to the same thing, with no pause in their nuclear arms programs.

As to the exact timing, I believe that was driven by the intelligence that could place so many of Iran's leadership in one vulnerable place at one time. The provocation has been there for decades. Now we finally had the opportunity and Trump went for it.
 

"We've lost 13 American soldiers in a war that the American people and, by the way, most of the global community, has no idea why the hell we went there in the first place," Shapiro said.

"I think people have an idea," Maher countered.

"What was the reason we went in?" Shapiro asked.

"Everything you said – the nukes, regime change, and just to reshuffle the deck in the Middle East. Nothing ever really was going to get better until that regime went away," Maher replied, prompting chuckles from the audience.

Maher then added, "But we'll see what happens."


My opinion is that the war was started for all of those reasons, particularly that Iran has been the turd in the punchbowl of the region for more than forty years, and enough was enough.

We will indeed see what happens, but the only way for the war to be unsuccessful is for an even worse, or at least equally bad, regime to take over and go right back to the same thing, with no pause in their nuclear arms programs.

As to the exact timing, I believe that was driven by the intelligence that could place so many of Iran's leadership in one vulnerable place at one time. The provocation has been there for decades. Now we finally had the opportunity and Trump went for it.
Absolutely spot on.
I agree with it all.
I admire Maher: he's a liberal but not a leftist. He's one of the few Democrats who has tried to bring a breath of sanity to that party, so far without luck.

By the way, he had one of the best lines I've ever heard in his comedy act from years ago.
"My father is Catholic and my mother is Jewish. So I go to Confession ... but I take a lawyer." :laughing0301:
 

"We've lost 13 American soldiers in a war that the American people and, by the way, most of the global community, has no idea why the hell we went there in the first place," Shapiro said.

"I think people have an idea," Maher countered.

"What was the reason we went in?" Shapiro asked.

"Everything you said – the nukes, regime change, and just to reshuffle the deck in the Middle East. Nothing ever really was going to get better until that regime went away," Maher replied, prompting chuckles from the audience.

Maher then added, "But we'll see what happens."


My opinion is that the war was started for all of those reasons, particularly that Iran has been the turd in the punchbowl of the region for more than forty years, and enough was enough.

We will indeed see what happens, but the only way for the war to be unsuccessful is for an even worse, or at least equally bad, regime to take over and go right back to the same thing, with no pause in their nuclear arms programs.

As to the exact timing, I believe that was driven by the intelligence that could place so many of Iran's leadership in one vulnerable place at one time. The provocation has been there for decades. Now we finally had the opportunity and Trump went for it.
I asked myself who watches Bill Maher when all he does is shit on his own audience; then I looked it up and his ratings are steadily vanishing.
 

"We've lost 13 American soldiers in a war that the American people and, by the way, most of the global community, has no idea why the hell we went there in the first place," Shapiro said.

"I think people have an idea," Maher countered.

"What was the reason we went in?" Shapiro asked.

"Everything you said – the nukes, regime change, and just to reshuffle the deck in the Middle East. Nothing ever really was going to get better until that regime went away," Maher replied, prompting chuckles from the audience.

Maher then added, "But we'll see what happens."


My opinion is that the war was started for all of those reasons, particularly that Iran has been the turd in the punchbowl of the region for more than forty years, and enough was enough.

We will indeed see what happens, but the only way for the war to be unsuccessful is for an even worse, or at least equally bad, regime to take over and go right back to the same thing, with no pause in their nuclear arms programs.

As to the exact timing, I believe that was driven by the intelligence that could place so many of Iran's leadership in one vulnerable place at one time. The provocation has been there for decades. Now we finally had the opportunity and Trump went for it.
The Persian people should have been freed decades ago. Some have insisted that Churchill asked the CIA to over throw the former, elected government in 1953 which started this mess but I am not well versed in Iranian history.

I do not know the best path forward, I would HOPE the U.S was planning and prepared, I am not privy to the intel obviously but it is clear that Americans are tired of war, especially in the M.E. Whether citizens of Canada or Iran, citizens must be free and Iran must not obtain a nuke. America must call out violators and stand up for justice, it has been your greatest asset for 250 years.

China and Russia are going to work overtime to prevent Americas success there as will the guard there.
 
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