Not a single thread on the BENEFITS of having massive healthcare companies.

[deanrd]

Here is how much 17 healthcare CEOs received in compensation during fiscal year 2017, according to Equilar.

6. Ian Read (Pfizer) — $26.17 million
9. Michael F. Neidorff (Centene) — $25.26 million
10. Alex Gorsky (Johnson & Johnson) — $22.84 million
20. Joseph M. Zubretsky (Molina Healthcare) — $19.74 million
22. Richard A. Gonzalez (AbbVie) — $19.13 million
24. Giovanni Caforio (Bristol Myers-Squibb) — $18.69 million
34. David M. Cordani (Cigna) — $17.55 million
47. Timothy Wentworth (Express Scripts) — $15.90 million
51. Miles D. White (Abbott Laboratories) — $15.62 million
53. John F. Milligan (Gilead Sciences) — $15.44 million
56. Bruce D. Broussard (Humana) — $14.87 million
62. Stefano Pessina (Walgreens) — $14.67 million
63. David A. Ricks (Eli Lilly) — $14.50 million
66. R. Milton Johnson (HCA Healthcare) — $13.71 million
83. George S. Barrett (Cardinal Health) — $10.99 million
86. Steven H. Collis (AmerisourceBergen) — $9.91 million
99. Ron A. Rittenmeyer (Tenet Healthcare) — $3.65 million

17 of the highest-paid CEOs in healthcare

Healthcare executives are among the highest paid in the world.

So what do they do for all that money?

And where does that money come from?

Anyone?

 

[deanrd]

So, if they don't make anything and they don't sell anything, why are they getting so much money?

 

[Oddball]

You do know that a significant number on that list supported Ovomitcare, don't you?

You think they did so because it made them poorer?

 

[Intolerant]

Why do liberals always want to take money away from others.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Better go back over your list....not make anything???
DO Banks make anything....

 

[WillowTree]

Why do liberals always want to take money away from others.

They want their freebies!

 

[EGR one]

So, if they don't make anything and they don't sell anything, why are they getting so much money?

Especially since most of them can't throw a football or make a basket. And, few of them can rap, sing, or act. How dare they make money.

 

[emilynghiem]

Here is how much 17 healthcare CEOs received in compensation during fiscal year 2017, according to Equilar.

6. Ian Read (Pfizer) — $26.17 million
9. Michael F. Neidorff (Centene) — $25.26 million
10. Alex Gorsky (Johnson & Johnson) — $22.84 million
20. Joseph M. Zubretsky (Molina Healthcare) — $19.74 million
22. Richard A. Gonzalez (AbbVie) — $19.13 million
24. Giovanni Caforio (Bristol Myers-Squibb) — $18.69 million
34. David M. Cordani (Cigna) — $17.55 million
47. Timothy Wentworth (Express Scripts) — $15.90 million
51. Miles D. White (Abbott Laboratories) — $15.62 million
53. John F. Milligan (Gilead Sciences) — $15.44 million
56. Bruce D. Broussard (Humana) — $14.87 million
62. Stefano Pessina (Walgreens) — $14.67 million
63. David A. Ricks (Eli Lilly) — $14.50 million
66. R. Milton Johnson (HCA Healthcare) — $13.71 million
83. George S. Barrett (Cardinal Health) — $10.99 million
86. Steven H. Collis (AmerisourceBergen) — $9.91 million
99. Ron A. Rittenmeyer (Tenet Healthcare) — $3.65 million

17 of the highest-paid CEOs in healthcare

Healthcare executives are among the highest paid in the world.

So what do they do for all that money?

And where does that money come from?

Anyone?

I heard an ad on KSEV radio about how foreign countries depend on US companies
to pay for all the research and development for new medicines. So this lowers costs
of medical care in OTHER countries while the US foots the bill.

Now deanrd what if we throw in the factor of reducing costs of medical
procedures and medicines while saving more lives and resources
by R&D on free and natural spiritual healing that removes the root causes
of illness and disease, disorders and addictions.

That free treatment and cure that is saving lives and cutting costs
DOESN'T EVEN SHOW UP in the numbers you cite.

You are only looking at the money on the books, where people
can cite property ownership and assets by those values.

That doesn't necessarily translate into the actual services
it takes to prevent and treat diseases in the real world.

So deanrd given what's really going on in the world,
I don't think you can compare these different systems using
just dollars and cents, or it doesn't add up.

The REAL work to build clinics and teaching hospitals
done by NONPROFITS such as Doctors without Borders
or Americares AREN'T EVEN ON YOUR LIST. They have
more influence, power, knowledge and ABILITY to serve
and save more lives than just the corporations you list
as having money that is tied up in stocks and DOESN'T
necessarily translate into actual services on the ground serving people.

If we start placing value on the people treating and curing
diseases for FREE to SAVE LIVES, that can be the Equivalent
of saving hundreds of thousands in expenses or death PER PERSON,
ie MILLIONS if not BILLIONS
WHICH NEVER SHOWS UP IN THE GNP OR LISTS OF SALARIES YOU POSTED.

Do you understand why you cannot measure health care this way?

We are talking about totally different scales or systems.
Under the REAL system it takes to saves lives and build sustainable
health care around the world, the empty dollars earned from exploiting
poverty disease and lack of access to resources MEANS NOTHING.

If anything, the money and labor to build sustainable health care
will come from workers at the grassroots level, teachers students
residents and interns who don't even show up on your scale.

If we organize more groups to build more local clinics, teaching
hospitals and emergency care centers in every city, country and district
SURE
we can better lobby the Bill Gate and George Soros of the world
to invest in replicating those models. Any maybe turn this around
where the wealthy investors work to build more hospital programs
to train health care service providers, doctors and nurses to serve in public health.

But this won't be accomplished by arguing about who earns how much money.

It will be achieved by promoting SOLUTIONS that CUT COSTS
so that more people invest both LABOR and money into
building sustainable programs DIRECTLY OURSELVES.

That's when we will attract support of investors.
Focus on the solutions, that people want to invest in.
Do what works, and the money will follow!

 

[mudwhistle]

Why do liberals always want to take money away from others.

Because they're pretty much born thieves.

 

[dblack]

Healthcare executives are among the highest paid in the world.

So what do they do for all that money?

And where does that money come from?

Anyone?

Mostly they lobby government for special privilege. That's why so many of them are part of the revolving door on K street.

 

[Oddball]

OP....

 

[Yarddog]

Why do liberals always want to take money away from others.

They tend to be envious people who only look at the dollar signs on a sheet of paper without thinking any deeper than that.

 

[deanrd]

You do know that a significant number on that list supported Ovomitcare, don't you?

You think they did so because it made them poorer?

So what?

 

[Oddball]

You do know that a significant number on that list supported Ovomitcare, don't you?

You think they did so because it made them poorer?

So what?

So you're a chunkhead.

 

[deanrd]

Better go back over your list....not make anything???
DO Banks make anything....

Yeah.

They invest money.

They offer capital to promote business growth.

They give you a safe place to store your money.

What do healthcare companies give? We have a pretty good idea what they take.

 

[deanrd]

Here is how much 17 healthcare CEOs received in compensation during fiscal year 2017, according to Equilar.

6. Ian Read (Pfizer) — $26.17 million
9. Michael F. Neidorff (Centene) — $25.26 million
10. Alex Gorsky (Johnson & Johnson) — $22.84 million
20. Joseph M. Zubretsky (Molina Healthcare) — $19.74 million
22. Richard A. Gonzalez (AbbVie) — $19.13 million
24. Giovanni Caforio (Bristol Myers-Squibb) — $18.69 million
34. David M. Cordani (Cigna) — $17.55 million
47. Timothy Wentworth (Express Scripts) — $15.90 million
51. Miles D. White (Abbott Laboratories) — $15.62 million
53. John F. Milligan (Gilead Sciences) — $15.44 million
56. Bruce D. Broussard (Humana) — $14.87 million
62. Stefano Pessina (Walgreens) — $14.67 million
63. David A. Ricks (Eli Lilly) — $14.50 million
66. R. Milton Johnson (HCA Healthcare) — $13.71 million
83. George S. Barrett (Cardinal Health) — $10.99 million
86. Steven H. Collis (AmerisourceBergen) — $9.91 million
99. Ron A. Rittenmeyer (Tenet Healthcare) — $3.65 million

17 of the highest-paid CEOs in healthcare

Healthcare executives are among the highest paid in the world.

So what do they do for all that money?

And where does that money come from?

Anyone?

I heard an ad on KSEV radio about how foreign countries depend on US companies
to pay for all the research and development for new medicines. So this lowers costs
of medical care in OTHER countries while the US foots the bill.

Now deanrd what if we throw in the factor of reducing costs of medical
procedures and medicines while saving more lives and resources
by R&D on free and natural spiritual healing that removes the root causes
of illness and disease, disorders and addictions.

That free treatment and cure that is saving lives and cutting costs
DOESN'T EVEN SHOW UP in the numbers you cite.

You are only looking at the money on the books, where people
can cite property ownership and assets by those values.

That doesn't necessarily translate into the actual services
it takes to prevent and treat diseases in the real world.

So deanrd given what's really going on in the world,
I don't think you can compare these different systems using
just dollars and cents, or it doesn't add up.

The REAL work to build clinics and teaching hospitals
done by NONPROFITS such as Doctors without Borders
or Americares AREN'T EVEN ON YOUR LIST. They have
more influence, power, knowledge and ABILITY to serve
and save more lives than just the corporations you list
as having money that is tied up in stocks and DOESN'T
necessarily translate into actual services on the ground serving people.

If we start placing value on the people treating and curing
diseases for FREE to SAVE LIVES, that can be the Equivalent
of saving hundreds of thousands in expenses or death PER PERSON,
ie MILLIONS if not BILLIONS
WHICH NEVER SHOWS UP IN THE GNP OR LISTS OF SALARIES YOU POSTED.

Do you understand why you cannot measure health care this way?

We are talking about totally different scales or systems.
Under the REAL system it takes to saves lives and build sustainable
health care around the world, the empty dollars earned from exploiting
poverty disease and lack of access to resources MEANS NOTHING.

If anything, the money and labor to build sustainable health care
will come from workers at the grassroots level, teachers students
residents and interns who don't even show up on your scale.

If we organize more groups to build more local clinics, teaching
hospitals and emergency care centers in every city, country and district
SURE
we can better lobby the Bill Gate and George Soros of the world
to invest in replicating those models. Any maybe turn this around
where the wealthy investors work to build more hospital programs
to train health care service providers, doctors and nurses to serve in public health.

But this won't be accomplished by arguing about who earns how much money.

It will be achieved by promoting SOLUTIONS that CUT COSTS
so that more people invest both LABOR and money into
building sustainable programs DIRECTLY OURSELVES.

That's when we will attract support of investors.
Focus on the solutions, that people want to invest in.
Do what works, and the money will follow!

Wow so much talking. But what does that have to do with healthcare companies? I missed that part.

 

[Yarddog]

Here is how much 17 healthcare CEOs received in compensation during fiscal year 2017, according to Equilar.

6. Ian Read (Pfizer) — $26.17 million
9. Michael F. Neidorff (Centene) — $25.26 million
10. Alex Gorsky (Johnson & Johnson) — $22.84 million
20. Joseph M. Zubretsky (Molina Healthcare) — $19.74 million
22. Richard A. Gonzalez (AbbVie) — $19.13 million
24. Giovanni Caforio (Bristol Myers-Squibb) — $18.69 million
34. David M. Cordani (Cigna) — $17.55 million
47. Timothy Wentworth (Express Scripts) — $15.90 million
51. Miles D. White (Abbott Laboratories) — $15.62 million
53. John F. Milligan (Gilead Sciences) — $15.44 million
56. Bruce D. Broussard (Humana) — $14.87 million
62. Stefano Pessina (Walgreens) — $14.67 million
63. David A. Ricks (Eli Lilly) — $14.50 million
66. R. Milton Johnson (HCA Healthcare) — $13.71 million
83. George S. Barrett (Cardinal Health) — $10.99 million
86. Steven H. Collis (AmerisourceBergen) — $9.91 million
99. Ron A. Rittenmeyer (Tenet Healthcare) — $3.65 million

17 of the highest-paid CEOs in healthcare

Healthcare executives are among the highest paid in the world.

So what do they do for all that money?

And where does that money come from?

Anyone?

I heard an ad on KSEV radio about how foreign countries depend on US companies
to pay for all the research and development for new medicines. So this lowers costs
of medical care in OTHER countries while the US foots the bill.

Now deanrd what if we throw in the factor of reducing costs of medical
procedures and medicines while saving more lives and resources
by R&D on free and natural spiritual healing that removes the root causes
of illness and disease, disorders and addictions.

That free treatment and cure that is saving lives and cutting costs
DOESN'T EVEN SHOW UP in the numbers you cite.

You are only looking at the money on the books, where people
can cite property ownership and assets by those values.

That doesn't necessarily translate into the actual services
it takes to prevent and treat diseases in the real world.

So deanrd given what's really going on in the world,
I don't think you can compare these different systems using
just dollars and cents, or it doesn't add up.

The REAL work to build clinics and teaching hospitals
done by NONPROFITS such as Doctors without Borders
or Americares AREN'T EVEN ON YOUR LIST. They have
more influence, power, knowledge and ABILITY to serve
and save more lives than just the corporations you list
as having money that is tied up in stocks and DOESN'T
necessarily translate into actual services on the ground serving people.

If we start placing value on the people treating and curing
diseases for FREE to SAVE LIVES, that can be the Equivalent
of saving hundreds of thousands in expenses or death PER PERSON,
ie MILLIONS if not BILLIONS
WHICH NEVER SHOWS UP IN THE GNP OR LISTS OF SALARIES YOU POSTED.

Do you understand why you cannot measure health care this way?

We are talking about totally different scales or systems.
Under the REAL system it takes to saves lives and build sustainable
health care around the world, the empty dollars earned from exploiting
poverty disease and lack of access to resources MEANS NOTHING.

If anything, the money and labor to build sustainable health care
will come from workers at the grassroots level, teachers students
residents and interns who don't even show up on your scale.

If we organize more groups to build more local clinics, teaching
hospitals and emergency care centers in every city, country and district
SURE
we can better lobby the Bill Gate and George Soros of the world
to invest in replicating those models. Any maybe turn this around
where the wealthy investors work to build more hospital programs
to train health care service providers, doctors and nurses to serve in public health.

But this won't be accomplished by arguing about who earns how much money.

It will be achieved by promoting SOLUTIONS that CUT COSTS
so that more people invest both LABOR and money into
building sustainable programs DIRECTLY OURSELVES.

That's when we will attract support of investors.
Focus on the solutions, that people want to invest in.
Do what works, and the money will follow!

Nice job. I think having this diversity of systems is healthy and a form of diversity. You would think liberals would be all for that. I just couldn't imagine having a single payer government system and what a logistical nightmare that would be, and also for the reasons you cite.
I would imagine research would be decimated if it all had to run through the government

 

[deanrd]

You do know that a significant number on that list supported Ovomitcare, don't you?

You think they did so because it made them poorer?

So what?

So you're a chunkhead.

Wow!

Witty comeback!

 

[deanrd]

Here is how much 17 healthcare CEOs received in compensation during fiscal year 2017, according to Equilar.

6. Ian Read (Pfizer) — $26.17 million
9. Michael F. Neidorff (Centene) — $25.26 million
10. Alex Gorsky (Johnson & Johnson) — $22.84 million
20. Joseph M. Zubretsky (Molina Healthcare) — $19.74 million
22. Richard A. Gonzalez (AbbVie) — $19.13 million
24. Giovanni Caforio (Bristol Myers-Squibb) — $18.69 million
34. David M. Cordani (Cigna) — $17.55 million
47. Timothy Wentworth (Express Scripts) — $15.90 million
51. Miles D. White (Abbott Laboratories) — $15.62 million
53. John F. Milligan (Gilead Sciences) — $15.44 million
56. Bruce D. Broussard (Humana) — $14.87 million
62. Stefano Pessina (Walgreens) — $14.67 million
63. David A. Ricks (Eli Lilly) — $14.50 million
66. R. Milton Johnson (HCA Healthcare) — $13.71 million
83. George S. Barrett (Cardinal Health) — $10.99 million
86. Steven H. Collis (AmerisourceBergen) — $9.91 million
99. Ron A. Rittenmeyer (Tenet Healthcare) — $3.65 million

17 of the highest-paid CEOs in healthcare

Healthcare executives are among the highest paid in the world.

So what do they do for all that money?

And where does that money come from?

Anyone?

I heard an ad on KSEV radio about how foreign countries depend on US companies
to pay for all the research and development for new medicines. So this lowers costs
of medical care in OTHER countries while the US foots the bill.

Now deanrd what if we throw in the factor of reducing costs of medical
procedures and medicines while saving more lives and resources
by R&D on free and natural spiritual healing that removes the root causes
of illness and disease, disorders and addictions.

That free treatment and cure that is saving lives and cutting costs
DOESN'T EVEN SHOW UP in the numbers you cite.

You are only looking at the money on the books, where people
can cite property ownership and assets by those values.

That doesn't necessarily translate into the actual services
it takes to prevent and treat diseases in the real world.

So deanrd given what's really going on in the world,
I don't think you can compare these different systems using
just dollars and cents, or it doesn't add up.

The REAL work to build clinics and teaching hospitals
done by NONPROFITS such as Doctors without Borders
or Americares AREN'T EVEN ON YOUR LIST. They have
more influence, power, knowledge and ABILITY to serve
and save more lives than just the corporations you list
as having money that is tied up in stocks and DOESN'T
necessarily translate into actual services on the ground serving people.

If we start placing value on the people treating and curing
diseases for FREE to SAVE LIVES, that can be the Equivalent
of saving hundreds of thousands in expenses or death PER PERSON,
ie MILLIONS if not BILLIONS
WHICH NEVER SHOWS UP IN THE GNP OR LISTS OF SALARIES YOU POSTED.

Do you understand why you cannot measure health care this way?

We are talking about totally different scales or systems.
Under the REAL system it takes to saves lives and build sustainable
health care around the world, the empty dollars earned from exploiting
poverty disease and lack of access to resources MEANS NOTHING.

If anything, the money and labor to build sustainable health care
will come from workers at the grassroots level, teachers students
residents and interns who don't even show up on your scale.

If we organize more groups to build more local clinics, teaching
hospitals and emergency care centers in every city, country and district
SURE
we can better lobby the Bill Gate and George Soros of the world
to invest in replicating those models. Any maybe turn this around
where the wealthy investors work to build more hospital programs
to train health care service providers, doctors and nurses to serve in public health.

But this won't be accomplished by arguing about who earns how much money.

It will be achieved by promoting SOLUTIONS that CUT COSTS
so that more people invest both LABOR and money into
building sustainable programs DIRECTLY OURSELVES.

That's when we will attract support of investors.
Focus on the solutions, that people want to invest in.
Do what works, and the money will follow!

Nice job. I think having this diversity of systems is healthy and a form of diversity. You would think liberals would be all for that. I just couldn't imagine having a single payer government system and what a logistical nightmare that would be, and also for the reasons you cite.
I would imagine research would be decimated if it all had to run through the government

Yeah, because NASA the EPA and all the other government agencies are doing such a terrible job.

 

[dblack]

You do know that a significant number on that list supported Ovomitcare, don't you?

You think they did so because it made them poorer?

So what?

These people are paid much so because they know how to score profits by manipulating government.

Google Liz Fowler.