North Korea Calls President Obama a Monkey

[asaratis]

You can post a million more links that followed the lead of the first errant claim that Obama was called a monkey. That will not make it a fact. Obama's recklessness was likened to that of a monkey. There's a distinction between what was actually said and what is now claimed to have been said. You are a typical useful idiot of the left...as are many disingenuous "journalists".

Well then by all means please feel free to clear up this little discrepancy by describing exactly what was really said and by whom. As trusted keeper of the sacred knowledge it's your responsibility to uncover the truth.

Quite simple.

After the "journalist" in each of the linked articles paraphrases the NK press release, the actual press release is shown in quotations marks.

Each says:

Obama always goes reckless in words and deeds like a monkey in a tropical forest," a spokesman for the NDC's policy department said in a statement published by the official KCNA news agency.

Nowhere in the quote is Obama "called a monkey". The fact that you and other brainwashed liberals cannot fathom this simple fact is attributable to your lack of education in the logic and/or reading comprehension.

Oh I see the tremendous distinction now, I don't know why I didn't see it before. Your communist friends in North Korea merely suggested that the President of the United States acts like a monkey......not that he is actually a monkey. The fundamental difference between the two is profoundly obvious....who could possibly mistake their meaning? All a big misunderstanding then, no racial innuendo of any kind intended.......just a little completely non racist horse play. Thanks for clearing that up.

There you go again with your deliberate misquoting.

"Obama always goes reckless in words and deeds like a monkey in a tropical forest," a spokesman for the NDC's policy department said in a statement published by the official KCNA news agency.

They did not say that Obama always acts like a monkey. They said he "always goes reckless in words and deeds like a monkey...."'

There are other things that monkeys do that Obama doesn't.

Feel free to provide an actual link, it's sort of an old custom on internet forums.

I am quoting your links, you imbecile.

 

[Discombobulated]

Well then by all means please feel free to clear up this little discrepancy by describing exactly what was really said and by whom. As trusted keeper of the sacred knowledge it's your responsibility to uncover the truth.

Quite simple.

After the "journalist" in each of the linked articles paraphrases the NK press release, the actual press release is shown in quotations marks.

Each says:

Obama always goes reckless in words and deeds like a monkey in a tropical forest," a spokesman for the NDC's policy department said in a statement published by the official KCNA news agency.

Nowhere in the quote is Obama "called a monkey". The fact that you and other brainwashed liberals cannot fathom this simple fact is attributable to your lack of education in the logic and/or reading comprehension.

Oh I see the tremendous distinction now, I don't know why I didn't see it before. Your communist friends in North Korea merely suggested that the President of the United States acts like a monkey......not that he is actually a monkey. The fundamental difference between the two is profoundly obvious....who could possibly mistake their meaning? All a big misunderstanding then, no racial innuendo of any kind intended.......just a little completely non racist horse play. Thanks for clearing that up.

There you go again with your deliberate misquoting.

"Obama always goes reckless in words and deeds like a monkey in a tropical forest," a spokesman for the NDC's policy department said in a statement published by the official KCNA news agency.

They did not say that Obama always acts like a monkey. They said he "always goes reckless in words and deeds like a monkey...."'

There are other things that monkeys do that Obama doesn't.

Feel free to provide an actual link, it's sort of an old custom on internet forums.

I am quoting your links, you imbecile.

You mean you're deliberately misquoting.

 

[Discombobulated]

"........monkey in a tropical forest".........
Doesn't exactly sound like a typical Korean colloquialism since there are no tropical forests or monkeys in Korea.

"...like a monkey" is not equal to "is a monkey".

You presume that North Koreans are just as undereducated as you. I have no doubt that the NKs have access to internet and knowledge of other lands.

Feeble half witted response....about what I expected. So if I say something like " You seem like a real ****" as opposed to " You are a real ****" .....that would be perfectly acceptable.

It is perfectly acceptable to me for you to call me anything you want. Your pronouncements mean nothing to me. There is a difference between seeming to be and being.

Whether you claim that I seem to be "xyz" or that I am "xyz" has no bearing at all on whether I really am "xyz".

As I said before, you need to work on your logic and general comprehension of the written English here. I seriously doubt that you have a second language. Kudos to you if you are multilingual. Even so, you still need to work on that LOGIC.

Logic is not one of your strong points.......hence your misunderstanding of the difference between ( or rather lack thereof) acting like a monkey and being a monkey. You have no argument.

 

[JoeMoma]

It's it possible to call a black man something derogatory without it being interrupted as a racial slur?

I don't know, can you? It all depends on the intent of your remarks and whether or not your criticism is based on whatever you were already predisposed to think.

The person interrupting something derogatory as racists does not necessary know the intent of the person that said the derogatory remark. Sometimes a monkey is just a monkey.

 

[Discombobulated]

It's it possible to call a black man something derogatory without it being interrupted as a racial slur?

I don't know, can you? It all depends on the intent of your remarks and whether or not your criticism is based on whatever you were already predisposed to think.

The person interrupting something derogatory as racists does not necessary know the intent of the person that said the derogatory remark. Sometimes a monkey is just a monkey.

Things can be whatever you want them to be when you ignore context.

 

[JoeMoma]

It's it possible to call a black man something derogatory without it being interrupted as a racial slur?

I don't know, can you? It all depends on the intent of your remarks and whether or not your criticism is based on whatever you were already predisposed to think.

The person interrupting something derogatory as racists does not necessary know the intent of the person that said the derogatory remark. Sometimes a monkey is just a monkey.

Things can be whatever you want them to be when you ignore context.

Exactly. As such, if something is said derogatory about a black man, there will be some that will interpret the derogatory comment to be racist, even if it is simply derogatory but not racist.

 

[asaratis]

It's it possible to call a black man something derogatory without it being interrupted as a racial slur?

I don't know, can you? It all depends on the intent of your remarks and whether or not your criticism is based on whatever you were already predisposed to think.

The person interrupting something derogatory as racists does not necessary know the intent of the person that said the derogatory remark. Sometimes a monkey is just a monkey.

Things can be whatever you want them to be when you ignore context.

So why didn't you question the articles taking the NK press release out of context?

 

[asaratis]

Quite simple.

After the "journalist" in each of the linked articles paraphrases the NK press release, the actual press release is shown in quotations marks.

Each says:

Nowhere in the quote is Obama "called a monkey". The fact that you and other brainwashed liberals cannot fathom this simple fact is attributable to your lack of education in the logic and/or reading comprehension.

Oh I see the tremendous distinction now, I don't know why I didn't see it before. Your communist friends in North Korea merely suggested that the President of the United States acts like a monkey......not that he is actually a monkey. The fundamental difference between the two is profoundly obvious....who could possibly mistake their meaning? All a big misunderstanding then, no racial innuendo of any kind intended.......just a little completely non racist horse play. Thanks for clearing that up.

There you go again with your deliberate misquoting.

"Obama always goes reckless in words and deeds like a monkey in a tropical forest," a spokesman for the NDC's policy department said in a statement published by the official KCNA news agency.

They did not say that Obama always acts like a monkey. They said he "always goes reckless in words and deeds like a monkey...."'

There are other things that monkeys do that Obama doesn't.

Feel free to provide an actual link, it's sort of an old custom on internet forums.

I am quoting your links, you imbecile.

You mean you're deliberately misquoting.

No. I quoted directly from your linked articles. They all present the actual quote...after the paraphrased storyline.

It is you, following the lead of the headline seeking "journalists" that perverts what was actually said by NK.

What a good little liberal you are. A useful idiot indeed.

 

[Discombobulated]

It's it possible to call a black man something derogatory without it being interrupted as a racial slur?

I don't know, can you? It all depends on the intent of your remarks and whether or not your criticism is based on whatever you were already predisposed to think.

The person interrupting something derogatory as racists does not necessary know the intent of the person that said the derogatory remark. Sometimes a monkey is just a monkey.

Things can be whatever you want them to be when you ignore context.

So why didn't you question the articles taking the NK press release out of context?

The kind of context I speak of is one you can't accept. The context I'm talking about has nothing to do with media perception or petty politics. When you try to ignore and deny the fact that the term monkey in reference to black folks has obvious historic racial implications you can't be taken seriously because you simply aren't being honest. That's as clear as I can make it for you.

 

[JoeMoma]

It's it possible to call a black man something derogatory without it being interrupted as a racial slur?

I don't know, can you? It all depends on the intent of your remarks and whether or not your criticism is based on whatever you were already predisposed to think.

The person interrupting something derogatory as racists does not necessary know the intent of the person that said the derogatory remark. Sometimes a monkey is just a monkey.

Things can be whatever you want them to be when you ignore context.

So why didn't you question the articles taking the NK press release out of context?

The kind of context I speak of is one you can't accept. The context I'm talking about has nothing to do with media perception or petty politics. When you try to ignore and deny the fact that the term monkey in reference to black folks has obvious historic racial implications you can't be taken seriously because you simply aren't being honest. That's as clear as I can make it for you.

There is such a long list of such terms that have "historical racial implications" with blacks that it's almost impossible not to use them. If I say to a white friend, "Hey boy, what's up?", there is no problem. If I say the exact same thing to someone who is black then I'm racist because calling a black man a boy has those racial implications.

Do you really think people in NK know and understand all of the taboo words not to use with black people because of the "historical racial implications"?

Hey, maybe the monkey comment was intended to be a racial slur. Maybe it was just intended to be a slur regardless of race. Coming from NK I really don't give a shit.

 

[Discombobulated]

I don't know, can you? It all depends on the intent of your remarks and whether or not your criticism is based on whatever you were already predisposed to think.

The person interrupting something derogatory as racists does not necessary know the intent of the person that said the derogatory remark. Sometimes a monkey is just a monkey.

Things can be whatever you want them to be when you ignore context.

So why didn't you question the articles taking the NK press release out of context?

The kind of context I speak of is one you can't accept. The context I'm talking about has nothing to do with media perception or petty politics. When you try to ignore and deny the fact that the term monkey in reference to black folks has obvious historic racial implications you can't be taken seriously because you simply aren't being honest. That's as clear as I can make it for you.

There is such a long list of such terms that have "historical racial implications" with blacks that it's almost impossible not to use them. If I say to a white friend, "Hey boy, what's up?", there is no problem. If I say the exact same thing to someone who is black then I'm racist because calling a black man a boy has those racial implications.

Do you really think people in NK know and understand all of the taboo words not to use with black people because of the "historical racial implications"?

Hey, maybe the monkey comment was intended to be a racial slur. Maybe it was just intended to be a slur regardless of race. Coming from NK I really don't give a shit.

I really sympathize with your daily struggle to overcome racism; I can only imagine the horrors you've faced with your uncertainty about the use the word "boy".

 

[JQPublic1]

Once again, The BIG LIE! History isn't a strong point for RWers, they simply repeat talking points and leave the details - reality - out of their posted Idiot-Grams. Lies come in two forms, lies of commission and lies of omission. BIG LIES are both.

The only question which arises from the post of AvgGuyIA is this: Is he really this ignorant or is he a liar?

The KKK was a Democrat organization there rye bread.

Sure it was. This MB has taken a turn for the worse when someone as dishonest as yourself can be put in the position of moderator.

Today's Democratic party is in no way the same as the Southern Democratic party. If you don't know that then I would be very surprised. If you already did know that then you know that you are lying in intent if not fact.

You and those like you are the reason I can no longer affiliate myself with the GOP. You have destroyed what was once a very proud political party and turned it into a den of liars and theives.

Dwight Eisenhower would have you tied to the back of a buggy and horsewhipped to within an inch of your worthless life.

I'm a liberal Democrat Hug and am older than you. I've seen the same KKK loving Dems morph into the progressives of today. The same people just calling themselves a different name. I will grant you that the majority of those SOB's are now dead and buried, but a lot of their philosophy remains which is why we are sliding backwards in terms of race relations than progressing forward.

Progressives require a split, divide and conquer is their mantra. Thus they will do everything they can to split this country into little balkanized groups that can then be destroyed in detail.

I would suggest that this isn't the reason " ... why we are sliding backwards in terms of race relations than progressing forward ..."

Rather, I would suggest that the two parties have two different definitions of moving forward. The blacks are not interested in what the whites want, and the whites '' not interested in what the blacks want. (One wants assimilation, the other wants separation).

The problem is neither group is interested in what is best for the country as a whole. If the country does better, we all do better. Progressives have made it an "either/or" battle. There is no "we" in progressivism. If the blacks, whites, Hispanics and Asians got together, and worked toward the common good, the progressives would be out of a job because there would be no group they could demonize.

Progressivism thrives on chaos. That's why they are all about rioting and disarming people. If you aren't armed, you can't defend yourself, which makes the riots far more certain to occur, and their outcomes far more bloody.

Do you really know what a progressive is? Here is a hint:

 

[Meathead]

What does that have to do with Obama being a monkey? I don't think they said he was because he is progressive.

 

[asaratis]

Here's a question for you that think NK "called Obama a monkey".

If said, "You eat like a bird!", would you say that I had "called you a bird"?

If your answer is "Yes!", you have problem with analogies.

 

[Wry Catcher]

RWs will love him the way they love Pootin - and for the same reason - he's a bully. If he calls the (Black, Democrat) US president a monkey, its just one more reason they'll like him.

Funny this coming from the party of racism, the Democrat
Party.

Once again, The BIG LIE! History isn't a strong point for RWers, they simply repeat talking points and leave the details - reality - out of their posted Idiot-Grams. Lies come in two forms, lies of commission and lies of omission. BIG LIES are both.

The only question which arises from the post of AvgGuyIA is this: Is he really this ignorant or is he a liar?

Rule No. 4. When lacking a coherent or cogent counter-argument, attack the poster.

How about a clear and concise retort since calling a lie oft repeated a BIG LIE is both. Since you don't seem to understand that is a coherent and concise response to someone who parrots an untruth, which in fact is not an argument and is at best only an echo! Does that help you to understand?

Or do I need to explain the technical definition of an ad hominem, and other words and phrases such as logical fallacy, Straw Man and Idiot-gram. Knowing what each actually means may enlighten you.

 

[Wry Catcher]

RWs will love him the way they love Pootin - and for the same reason - he's a bully. If he calls the (Black, Democrat) US president a monkey, its just one more reason they'll like him.

Funny this coming from the party of racism, the Democrat
Party.

Once again, The BIG LIE! History isn't a strong point for RWers, they simply repeat talking points and leave the details - reality - out of their posted Idiot-Grams. Lies come in two forms, lies of commission and lies of omission. BIG LIES are both.

The only question which arises from the post of AvgGuyIA is this: Is he really this ignorant or is he a liar?

The KKK was a Democrat organization there rye bread.

The KKK was and is a terrorist organization, yes it included Democrats at a different time and of a different iteration (mostly those in the South), and where it exists today it supports the Republikan Party.

In 1948, the Platform for the Democratic Party included this:

The Democratic Party is responsible for the great civil rights gains made in recent years in eliminating unfair and illegal discrimination based on race, creed or color,

The Democratic Party commits itself to continuing its efforts to eradicate all racial, religious and economic discrimination.

We again state our belief that racial and religious minorities must have the right to live, the right to work, the right to vote, the full and equal protection of the laws, on a basis of equality with all citizens as guaranteed by the Constitution.

We highly commend President Harry S. Truman for his courageous stand on the issue of civil rights.

We call upon the Congress to support our President in guaranteeing these basic and fundamental American Principles: (1) the right of full and equal political participation; (2) the right to equal opportunity of employment; (3) the right of security of person; (4) and the right of equal treatment in the service and defense of our nation.[1]

We pledge ourselves to legislation to admit a minimum of 400,000 displaced persons found eligible for United States citizenship without discrimination as to race or religion. We condemn the undemocratic action of the Republican 80th Congress in passing an inadequate and bigoted bill for this purpose, which law imposes no-American restrictions based on race and religion upon such admissions.

Democratic Party Platforms Democratic Party Platform of 1948

And this is what the GOP Platform Pledged in terms of health care and civil rights:\

Consistent with the vigorous existence of our competitive economy, we urge: extension of the Federal Old Age and Survivors' Insurance program and increase of the benefits to a more realistic level; strengthening of Federal-State programs designed to provide more adequate hospital facilities, too improve methods of treatment for the mentally ill, to advance maternal and child health and generally to foster a healthy America.

Lynching or any other form of mob violence anywhere is a disgrace to any civilized state, and we favor the prompt enactment of legislation to end this infamy.

One of the basic principles of this Republic is the equality of all individuals in their right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. This principle is enunciated in the Declaration of Independence and embodied in the Constitution of the United States; it was vindicated on the field of battle and became the cornerstone of this Republic. This right of equal opportunity to work and to advance in life should never be limited in any individual because of race, religion, color, or country of origin. We favor the enactment and just enforcement of such Federal legislation as may be necessary to maintain this right at all times in every part of this Republic.

We favor the abolition of the poll tax as a requisite to voting.

We are opposed to the idea of racial segregation in the armed services of the United States.

Republican Party Platforms Republican Party Platform of 1948

FDR's Tuskegee Experiments influenced Josef Mengele and the Nazis

Different times my ignorant and lying Crusader. The wonderful Christian GOP really went out on a limb to call Lynching a disgrace and uncivilized, and want the poll tax repealed.

I suppose an Islamic Fascist, since morons on this board consider Fascism to be a liberal ideology (LOL), consider beheading a disgrace too, since all fascists are liberals in the new talking point all the Crazy New Right (CNR) echo.

Of course they no longer us the term Islamic Fascist since it would water down the New History of the 20th Century promulgated by the Crusder, PoliticalChic and other members of the CNW; they must now consider AQ & ISIS liberal.

 

[High_Gravity]

So?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

This isn't the first time they've called Obama a monkey by the way.
So my question is, is this common for a racist in the North Korean culture to call someone who is black a "monkey" ? Is this their "n word" ?

It a word they learned from white people. When I was in S. Korea I was asked by a young lady to show her my tail. She wasnt being racist and she was dead serious. She told me her parents told her and they learned this from white GI's

OMG!!! Put that in the CrimingWhileWhite thread!! Awesome made up stuff there!!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Funny this coming from the party of racism, the Democrat
Party.

Once again, The BIG LIE! History isn't a strong point for RWers, they simply repeat talking points and leave the details - reality - out of their posted Idiot-Grams. Lies come in two forms, lies of commission and lies of omission. BIG LIES are both.

The only question which arises from the post of AvgGuyIA is this: Is he really this ignorant or is he a liar?

The KKK was a Democrat organization there rye bread.

The KKK was and is a terrorist organization, yes it included Democrats at a different time and of a different iteration (mostly those in the South), and where it exists today it supports the Republikan Party.

In 1948, the Platform for the Democratic Party included this:

The Democratic Party is responsible for the great civil rights gains made in recent years in eliminating unfair and illegal discrimination based on race, creed or color,

The Democratic Party commits itself to continuing its efforts to eradicate all racial, religious and economic discrimination.

We again state our belief that racial and religious minorities must have the right to live, the right to work, the right to vote, the full and equal protection of the laws, on a basis of equality with all citizens as guaranteed by the Constitution.

We highly commend President Harry S. Truman for his courageous stand on the issue of civil rights.

We call upon the Congress to support our President in guaranteeing these basic and fundamental American Principles: (1) the right of full and equal political participation; (2) the right to equal opportunity of employment; (3) the right of security of person; (4) and the right of equal treatment in the service and defense of our nation.[1]

We pledge ourselves to legislation to admit a minimum of 400,000 displaced persons found eligible for United States citizenship without discrimination as to race or religion. We condemn the undemocratic action of the Republican 80th Congress in passing an inadequate and bigoted bill for this purpose, which law imposes no-American restrictions based on race and religion upon such admissions.

Democratic Party Platforms Democratic Party Platform of 1948

And this is what the GOP Platform Pledged in terms of health care and civil rights:\

Consistent with the vigorous existence of our competitive economy, we urge: extension of the Federal Old Age and Survivors' Insurance program and increase of the benefits to a more realistic level; strengthening of Federal-State programs designed to provide more adequate hospital facilities, too improve methods of treatment for the mentally ill, to advance maternal and child health and generally to foster a healthy America.

Lynching or any other form of mob violence anywhere is a disgrace to any civilized state, and we favor the prompt enactment of legislation to end this infamy.

One of the basic principles of this Republic is the equality of all individuals in their right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. This principle is enunciated in the Declaration of Independence and embodied in the Constitution of the United States; it was vindicated on the field of battle and became the cornerstone of this Republic. This right of equal opportunity to work and to advance in life should never be limited in any individual because of race, religion, color, or country of origin. We favor the enactment and just enforcement of such Federal legislation as may be necessary to maintain this right at all times in every part of this Republic.

We favor the abolition of the poll tax as a requisite to voting.

We are opposed to the idea of racial segregation in the armed services of the United States.

Republican Party Platforms Republican Party Platform of 1948

FDR's Tuskegee Experiments influenced Josef Mengele and the Nazis

Different times my ignorant and lying Crusader. The wonderful Christian GOP really went out on a limb to call Lynching a disgrace and uncivilized, and want the poll tax repealed.

I suppose an Islamic Fascist, since morons on this board consider Fascism to be a liberal ideology (LOL), consider beheading a disgrace too, since all fascists are liberals in the new talking point all the Crazy New Right (CNR) echo.

Of course they no longer us the term Islamic Fascist since it would water down the New History of the 20th Century promulgated by the Crusder, PoliticalChic and other members of the CNW; they must now consider AQ & ISIS liberal.

Republicans: Freed the slaves, gave women the right to vote, passed Civil Rights

Democrats: Tuskegee, KKK, Jim Crow, segregration, Tammany Hall, held up Ike's Civil Right Bill for 7 years

 

[Discombobulated]

Here's a question for you that think NK "called Obama a monkey".

If said, "You eat like a bird!", would you say that I had "called you a bird"?

If your answer is "Yes!", you have problem with analogies.

Analogies......another word you don't understand.

 

[Unkotare]

Or do I need to explain the technical definition of an ad hominem, and other words and phrases such as logical fallacy, Straw Man and Idiot-gram. Knowing what each actually means may enlighten you.

Who's going to explain them to you?