North Carolina approves amendment banning gay marriage

[KevinWestern]

All you need to do is give us an example where your Libertarian theory on marriage has ever worked in the history of society and culture without disastrous consequences.

This is how you support your argument that human beings can breed like cats and dogs.

I am calling bullshit on your argument, and I have the history of world experience to back me up.

Asking you to support your position with empirical examples is not trolling, coward.

Libertatrian nonsense fails thanks to the vagrancies of human nature. You just aren't up to admitting it.

Given that you’re the one asking all of the questions, how about YOU give me ONE example where the legalization of same-sex marriage led DIRECTLY to widespread “disastrous consequences” within a society.

And “humans beings can breed like cats and dogs” – what the hell are you talking about?

Why is defending Liberty “nonsense”? I told you that I am not an Anarchist, and that I believe there ought to be rules that protect people from other people; rules against rape, murder, violence, stealing, ect.

But (as I’ve stated a million times) if an action does not cause any harm, and does not infringe on any rights of other individuals within that society – why should it be made illegal? Have you even once attempted to answer that question (my question) first? And you call me the coward?



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blah, blah, blah.

More empty theory, and no examples of how your mindless 'Libertarian gov't' has ever worked in the the entirety of human history.

You guys are dreamers at best, frauds at worst, but in all cases - 100% delusional.

Really Sniper? No attempt again at answering my question?

Do you realize that America was a “first of its kind” in a lot of areas. Do you think the founding fathers stood around and asked each other, “gee, we’ve never seen this sort of government exist before, so we should probably not attempt it – let’s just go back to the whole King/Queen setup again”.

All I’m doing is proposing some new ideas that only work to promote freedom, and you have neither the courage or the decency to even attempt to answer them in the spirit of a good civil debate.

Talking with you is an amazing waste of time...
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[Dr.Drock]

All you need to do is give us an example where your Libertarian theory on marriage has ever worked in the history of society and culture without disastrous consequences.

This is how you support your argument that human beings can breed like cats and dogs.

I am calling bullshit on your argument, and I have the history of world experience to back me up.

Asking you to support your position with empirical examples is not trolling, coward.

Libertatrian nonsense fails thanks to the vagrancies of human nature. You just aren't up to admitting it.

Given that you’re the one asking all of the questions, how about YOU give me ONE example where the legalization of same-sex marriage led DIRECTLY to widespread “disastrous consequences” within a society.

And “humans beings can breed like cats and dogs” – what the hell are you talking about?

Why is defending Liberty “nonsense”? I told you that I am not an Anarchist, and that I believe there ought to be rules that protect people from other people; rules against rape, murder, violence, stealing, ect.

But (as I’ve stated a million times) if an action does not cause any harm, and does not infringe on any rights of other individuals within that society – why should it be made illegal? Have you even once attempted to answer that question (my question) first? And you call me the coward?



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blah, blah, blah.

More empty theory, and no examples of how your mindless 'Libertarian gov't' has ever worked in the the entirety of human history.

You guys are dreamers at best, frauds at worst, but in all cases - 100% delusional.

An example of a working libertarian gov't has already been provided to you. You can lie and pretend it hasn't though, if that improves the quality of your day .

 

[SniperFire]

Given that you’re the one asking all of the questions, how about YOU give me ONE example where the legalization of same-sex marriage led DIRECTLY to widespread “disastrous consequences” within a society.

And “humans beings can breed like cats and dogs” – what the hell are you talking about?

Why is defending Liberty “nonsense”? I told you that I am not an Anarchist, and that I believe there ought to be rules that protect people from other people; rules against rape, murder, violence, stealing, ect.

But (as I’ve stated a million times) if an action does not cause any harm, and does not infringe on any rights of other individuals within that society – why should it be made illegal? Have you even once attempted to answer that question (my question) first? And you call me the coward?



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blah, blah, blah.

More empty theory, and no examples of how your mindless 'Libertarian gov't' has ever worked in the the entirety of human history.

You guys are dreamers at best, frauds at worst, but in all cases - 100% delusional.

Really Sniper? No attempt again at answering my question?

I asked you if you had examples of when in the course of human history a society has ever worked where people have breed like dogs as you are advocating.

You didn't answer me.

 

[Dr.Drock]

blah, blah, blah.

More empty theory, and no examples of how your mindless 'Libertarian gov't' has ever worked in the the entirety of human history.

You guys are dreamers at best, frauds at worst, but in all cases - 100% delusional.

Really Sniper? No attempt again at answering my question?

I asked you if you had examples of when in the course of human history a society has ever worked where people have breed like dogs as you are advocating.

You didn't answer me.

He's never advocated that once, I wonder if you ever went 5 posts without lying if this board would explode.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No, we're talking about the liberties HUMANS have.

I see you ignored my request 15 pages ago to attempt to move this to a grown up discussion. Kudos, you win.

Yes we are talking about human liberty, the liberty for those who would choose to have sex with animals. Since animals are used without any consent for breeding purposes you argument is done.

Nope it's different, as I've shown and repeated a dozen, maybe 2 dozen times.

But hey if you wanna keep repeating the same disproven bs, then hold up your victory flag by all means go ahead. You can even tear up a piece of printer paper and throw the confetti in the air, have at it.

In other words you don't have answer? Why are you so special that you are the only one that has to repeat something over and over? I'm still waiting for someone to show other wise that Humans do not make decisions and sign contracts and use and use animals for breeding purposes

After all what you are doing is picking what rights someone should have. Thats what your side stepping is suggesting. Some people like to have sex with animals shouldn't their rights be protected?

 

[SniperFire]

An example of a working libertarian gov't has already been provided to you.

Really?


I missed it.

Please tell me.

 

[SniperFire]

Really Sniper? No attempt again at answering my question?

I asked you if you had examples of when in the course of human history a society has ever worked where people have breed like dogs as you are advocating.

You didn't answer me.

He's never advocated that once

Sure he has.

 

[JakeStarkey]

No, he hasn't, and you are lying again.

 

[Dr.Drock]

Yes we are talking about human liberty, the liberty for those who would choose to have sex with animals. Since animals are used without any consent for breeding purposes you argument is done.

Nope it's different, as I've shown and repeated a dozen, maybe 2 dozen times.

But hey if you wanna keep repeating the same disproven bs, then hold up your victory flag by all means go ahead. You can even tear up a piece of printer paper and throw the confetti in the air, have at it.

In other words you don't have answer? Why are you so special that you are the only one that has to repeat something over and over? I'm still waiting for someone to show other wise that Humans do not make decisions and sign contracts and use and use animals for breeding purposes

After all what you are doing is picking what rights someone should have. Thats what your side stepping is suggesting. Some people like to have sex with animals shouldn't their rights be protected?

Humans do make those decisions, we treat sex differently than killing. Why? Because we need meat to eat.

No, humans don't have the right to sexually abuse animals or humans.

Can we at least agree to disagree and move on to a grown up part of this discussion?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Why do these so-called 'straight marriage wacks' have such fascination with animal sex?

 

[Dr.Drock]

An example of a working libertarian gov't has already been provided to you.

Really?


I missed it.

Please tell me.

The gov't of the country you live in, until our gov't shifted into a progressive/neoconservative one.

This country was partly founded on liberty, the thing you despise ppl different from you having.

And please provide the quote from Kevin saying he wants ppl to breed like dogs or something similar.

You'll cut that part out and continue lying I imagine.

 

[KevinWestern]

I asked you if you had examples of when in the course of human history a society has ever worked where people have breed like dogs as you are advocating.

You didn't answer me.

What in god’s name are you asking me exactly?

“Do I have an example” where a society has worked where humans “bred like dogs”? What kind of weird question is this, and how does it relate to anything we’re talking about?


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[Dr.Drock]

I asked you if you had examples of when in the course of human history a society has ever worked where people have breed like dogs as you are advocating.

You didn't answer me.

What in god’s name are you asking me exactly?

“Do I have an example” where a society has worked where humans “bred like dogs”? What kind of weird question is this, and how does it relate to anything we’re talking about?


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It doesn't, it's his desperate attempt to look cute in front of his other neoconservatives.

It's a retarded question, and that's the point.

 

[JakeStarkey]

sniper is a wierd bird, is all. I mean absolutely wack.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Nope it's different, as I've shown and repeated a dozen, maybe 2 dozen times.

But hey if you wanna keep repeating the same disproven bs, then hold up your victory flag by all means go ahead. You can even tear up a piece of printer paper and throw the confetti in the air, have at it.

In other words you don't have answer? Why are you so special that you are the only one that has to repeat something over and over? I'm still waiting for someone to show other wise that Humans do not make decisions and sign contracts and use and use animals for breeding purposes

After all what you are doing is picking what rights someone should have. Thats what your side stepping is suggesting. Some people like to have sex with animals shouldn't their rights be protected?

Humans do make those decisions, we treat sex differently than killing. Why? Because we need meat to eat.

No, humans don't have the right to sexually abuse animals or humans.

Can we at least agree to disagree and move on to a grown up part of this discussion?

No, humans don't have the right to sexually abuse animals or humans.

But they do have the right to abuse them and use them for breeding stock? got it.

Your pick and choose who does and does not have rights is way over the top.

 

[JakeStarkey]

bigrebnc is saying that humans and animals are equals.

What kind of wack liberalism is that?

He belongs to PETA and ELA.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

bigrebnc is saying that humans and animals are equals.

What kind of wack liberalism is that?

He belongs to PETA and ELA.

No it's idiot like you that are saying that when you use consent as the basis of your argument

 

[JakeStarkey]

What consent? If you imply consent, then you are saying animals and humans are equal.

I knew you were loony, but not even near this extent loony!

 

[KevinWestern]

In other words you don't have answer? Why are you so special that you are the only one that has to repeat something over and over? I'm still waiting for someone to show other wise that Humans do not make decisions and sign contracts and use and use animals for breeding purposes

After all what you are doing is picking what rights someone should have. Thats what your side stepping is suggesting. Some people like to have sex with animals shouldn't their rights be protected?

Humans do make those decisions, we treat sex differently than killing. Why? Because we need meat to eat.

No, humans don't have the right to sexually abuse animals or humans.

Can we at least agree to disagree and move on to a grown up part of this discussion?

No, humans don't have the right to sexually abuse animals or humans.

But they do have the right to abuse them and use them for breeding stock? got it.

Your pick and choose who does and does not have rights is way over the top.

Not sure what part of the country you live in, but where I'm from the rights of animals are COMPLETELY different from the rights of humans. I value 1 human life over 1 sheep life.

Again, why do you Authoritarians always - without fail - turn conversations about SSM between two consenting adults into a conversation about animal sex, and men blowing goats?

It's just strange and (quite frankly) offensive that you would equate SSM to human/animal sex in any way.

You believe that god gave you a brain, right? Well, how about you do him a favor and start using it...

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[bigrebnc1775]

Humans do make those decisions, we treat sex differently than killing. Why? Because we need meat to eat.

No, humans don't have the right to sexually abuse animals or humans.

Can we at least agree to disagree and move on to a grown up part of this discussion?

No, humans don't have the right to sexually abuse animals or humans.

But they do have the right to abuse them and use them for breeding stock? got it.

Your pick and choose who does and does not have rights is way over the top.

Not sure what part of the country you live in, but where I'm from the rights of animals are COMPLETELY different from the rights of humans. I value 1 human life over 1 sheep life.

Again, why do you Authoritarians always - without fail - turn conversations about SSM between two consenting adults into a conversation about animal sex, and men blowing goats?

It's just strange and (quite frankly) offensive that you would equate SSM to human/animal sex in any way.

You believe that god gave you a brain, right? Well, how about you do him a favor and start using it...

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Deflection from those questions that make your argument a fail is dully noted. Why must you pick and choose what rights are allowed and what are not?

Do people who like to have sex with animals have the right to do so? Yes or no and do not use the consent argument, because humans make decisions for animals everyday and they use animals for breeding stock without the consent of the animals.
So tell me does a human have the right to have sex with an animal>?