Norman Finkelstein Israel Is A Nation Of Murderers

[San Souci]

If it’s true your nation of Israel has murdered 400,000 Palestinians, half of whom are children, do you continue to provide your unwavering support?

No such thing as a "Palestinian". They are ARABS. And all of them are terrorist murderers. Good riddance.

 

[gipper]

No such thing as a "Palestinian". They are ARABS. And all of them are terrorist murderers. Good riddance.

Yeah all Arabs are terrorist murderers.

What a dumb ****.

 

[Deadstick]

Yeah all Arabs are terrorist murderers.

What a dumb ****.

I would say wicked and unhinged.

 

[BackAgain]

Give me an example of anything antisemitic i have posted, just one will do, good luck.

Give it a rest, yo anti semite fuckstick.

You fool nobody.

 

[Deadstick]

Give it a rest, yo anti semite fuckstick.

You fool nobody.

Like i thought you can't give me one example you just use the term to attack it's your default position it won't wash with me.

 

[BackAgain]

Like i thought you can't give me one example you just use the term to attack it's your default position it won't wash with me.

Read more our posts you fuckstick.

 

[San Souci]

Yeah all Arabs are terrorist murderers.

What a dumb ****.

Not necessarily. But all terrorist murderers are Arabs. Ever since Ireland solved their problems.

 

[toomuchtime_]

You don't really believe that do you? there is greater Israel to build and the people of Gaza are in the way.

We both know it's true that the war would end if the hostages were released and the so called Palestinians disarmed, but for some reason you continue to look for more reasons to continue the war.

 

[Shusha]

Like i thought you can't give me one example you just use the term to attack it's your default position it won't wash with me.

I can provide examples. But you will most certainly write them off as "I'm not against Jews, I'm only against Zionists". The sticky point is that you decide for yourself which Jews get put into the "Jew" category and which Jews get put into the "Zionist" category. And there is no real criteria for that distinction other than "I don't like them". "Zionist" becomes a catch-all phrase for those Jews who are "wrong" Jews or "bad" Jews, according to ill-defined, and personal criteria. And the whole "Zionist" label becomes an effort for those like Mr. Po-ta-to Chip to try to convince you that they are "good" Jews and shouldn't be harmed. (Though they will be, always, because, in the end, all Jews are "bad" Jews.) It is a set-up for appeasement behaviours.

Fundamentally, it is a failure of critical thinking for those who use the term "Zionist" but have failed to define it in any meaningful way. So, let's work through this.

Statement: People (any people, all people) have a right to self-determination in their indigenous homeland OR/AND people (any people, all people) have a right to self-determination in a conquered/settled/colonized homeland.

Do you agree with this statement? If you do not, please adjust the statement as you see fit to accurately reflect your views about self-determination.

 

[Deadstick]

I can provide examples. But you will most certainly write them off as "I'm not against Jews, I'm only against Zionists". The sticky point is that you decide for yourself which Jews get put into the "Jew" category and which Jews get put into the "Zionist" category. And there is no real criteria for that distinction other than "I don't like them". "Zionist" becomes a catch-all phrase for those Jews who are "wrong" Jews or "bad" Jews, according to ill-defined, and personal criteria. And the whole "Zionist" label becomes an effort for those like Mr. Po-ta-to Chip to try to convince you that they are "good" Jews and shouldn't be harmed. (Though they will be, always, because, in the end, all Jews are "bad" Jews.) It is a set-up for appeasement behaviours.

Fundamentally, it is a failure of critical thinking for those who use the term "Zionist" but have failed to define it in any meaningful way. So, let's work through this.

Statement: People (any people, all people) have a right to self-determination in their indigenous homeland OR/AND people (any people, all people) have a right to self-determination in a conquered/settled/colonized homeland.

Do you agree with this statement? If you do not, please adjust the statement as you see fit to accurately reflect your views about self-determination.

Bullshit! i have pointed out many times the difference between Judaism the religion and Zionism which is rightwing Jewish Nationalism built on the chosen people or Ubermench, many Jews are not Zionists, you clowns have moved the goal posts to conflate Zionism with Judaism so its easier to label people as anti semitic, the right to self determination in a conquered settled/ colonized homeland, Really! that was Hitlers credo when he conquered most of Europe, and i am still waiting for one example of my supposed anti semitism, it's that kind of lie and smear that destroyed Corbyn, you tried the same stunt with Ken Livingstone.

 

[Grau]

Bullshit! i have pointed out many times the difference between Judaism the religion and Zionism which is rightwing Jewish Nationalism built on the chosen people or Ubermench, many Jews are not Zionists, you clowns have moved the goal posts to conflate Zionism with Judaism so its easier to label people as anti semitic, the right to self determination in a conquered settled/ colonized homeland, Really! that was Hitlers credo when he conquered most of Europe, and i am still waiting for one example of my supposed anti semitism, it's that kind of lie and smear that destroyed Corbyn, you tried the same stunt with Ken Livingstone.

Excellent response to the usual bigoted and slanderous bombast we've come to expect from our gaggle of genocidal and hate filled Zionist shills.

Of course there are many Jews who are opposed to Zionism and plenty of them are equally repulsed by the tenants of Zionism which owes much to their like minded Nazi benefactors.
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Israel would not exist, today, if not for Zionism's close cooperation with Germany's National Socialists in the 1930s - 1940s. (1)

Your observation that: "you clowns have moved the goal posts to conflate Zionism with Judaism so its easier to label people as anti semitic," reminded me of Shulamit Aloni's observations. (2)


Thanks,





(1). "The Zionist-Nazi Collaboration"

The Zionist-Nazi Collaboration - Dissident Voice

Both Nazism and Zionism arose in tandem from small insignificant social movements in the early part of the 20th century, arguing, with equal force, that Jews were an alien and indigestible mass living in the midst of an otherwise pure Aryan population. Both movements contributed to the more...

dissidentvoice.org

EXCERPT " Zionists found common cause with Hitler, Eichmann, and the Nazis and used anti-Semitism and Nazism as a means of achieving their end which was the establishment of a Jewish state.

The two reactionary movements shared the view that German Jews were living in that country as a ‘foreign race’ and that the racial divide was essential to maintain.

The Zionists’ use of Nazism involved, among other things, the blocking of avenues of escape to other countries of Europe’s Jews and diverting them to Palestine, even as the death trains began to roll in Europe.

The rise of Nazism and Hitler to power was never, or almost never, opposed by the Zionists prior to the establishment of Israel."CONTINUED


(2). “Don’t be caught out by ‘the trick’”

Don’t be caught out by ‘the trick'

In August 2002 former Israeli Minister of Education Shulamit Aloni was interviewed on the radio and television program Democracy Now .

www.scoop.co.nz

EXCERPTS "“Well, it’s a trick, we always use it. When from Europe somebody is criticizing Israel, then we bring up the Holocaust. When in this country people are criticizing Israel, then they are anti-Semitic.....

And it’s very easy to blame people who criticize certain acts of the Israeli government as anti-Semitic, and to bring up the Holocaust, and the suffering of the Jewish people, and that is to justify everything we do to the Palestinians.”CONTINUED

 

[gipper]

Not necessarily. But all terrorist murderers are Arabs. Ever since Ireland solved their problems.

Doubles down on dumb.

Ever heard of Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols? Or the Unabomber?

We’ve had a long history of domestic terrorism that dates back to the founding of the KKK. Environment groups also have a history of terrorism. Anti-abortion groups, the Weather Underground, Black Panthers, etc……..

SHUT OFF THE TV AND GET INFORMED.

 

[gipper]

Like i thought you can't give me one example you just use the term to attack it's your default position it won't wash with me.

DumbAgain is dumb. His screen name is perfect, in Trump parlance. So, don’t expect anything but dumb.
BackAgain

 

[gipper]

Excellent response to the usual bigoted and slanderous bombast we've come to expect from our gaggle of genocidal and hate filled Zionist shills.

Of course there are many Jews who are opposed to Zionism and plenty of them are equally repulsed by the tenants of Zionism which owes much to their like minded Nazi benefactors.
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Israel would not exist, today, if not for Zionism's close cooperation with Germany's National Socialists in the 1930s - 1940s. (1)

Your observation that: "you clowns have moved the goal posts to conflate Zionism with Judaism so its easier to label people as anti semitic," reminded me of Shulamit Aloni's observations. (2)


Thanks,





(1). "The Zionist-Nazi Collaboration"

The Zionist-Nazi Collaboration - Dissident Voice

Both Nazism and Zionism arose in tandem from small insignificant social movements in the early part of the 20th century, arguing, with equal force, that Jews were an alien and indigestible mass living in the midst of an otherwise pure Aryan population. Both movements contributed to the more...

dissidentvoice.org

EXCERPT " Zionists found common cause with Hitler, Eichmann, and the Nazis and used anti-Semitism and Nazism as a means of achieving their end which was the establishment of a Jewish state.

The two reactionary movements shared the view that German Jews were living in that country as a ‘foreign race’ and that the racial divide was essential to maintain.

The Zionists’ use of Nazism involved, among other things, the blocking of avenues of escape to other countries of Europe’s Jews and diverting them to Palestine, even as the death trains began to roll in Europe.

The rise of Nazism and Hitler to power was never, or almost never, opposed by the Zionists prior to the establishment of Israel."CONTINUED


(2). “Don’t be caught out by ‘the trick’”

Don’t be caught out by ‘the trick'

In August 2002 former Israeli Minister of Education Shulamit Aloni was interviewed on the radio and television program Democracy Now .

www.scoop.co.nz

EXCERPTS "“Well, it’s a trick, we always use it. When from Europe somebody is criticizing Israel, then we bring up the Holocaust. When in this country people are criticizing Israel, then they are anti-Semitic.....

And it’s very easy to blame people who criticize certain acts of the Israeli government as anti-Semitic, and to bring up the Holocaust, and the suffering of the Jewish people, and that is to justify everything we do to the Palestinians.”CONTINUED

The similarities between Hitler’s Nazism and Israeli Zionism are uncanny.

 

[San Souci]

Doubles down on dumb.

Ever heard of Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols? Or the Unabomber?

We’ve had a long history of domestic terrorism that dates back to the founding of the KKK. Environment groups also have a history of terrorism. Anti-abortion groups, the Weather Underground, Black Panthers, etc……..

SHUT OFF THE TV AND GET INFORMED.

Because Israel is tired of getting Rocker bombed. The plan is to drive these filthy GAZANS out or wipe them out. The time is long coming. Once again. There is NO SUCH THING as a "Palestinian".

 

[Roudy]

Keep barking like a rabid dog because that is all you have we see the Genocide own it.

Look in the mirror Achmed. You wanna see barking and braying it would be your average pro Pali protest.

 

[Roudy]

I am not a democrat or Republican i am English, this isn't about any political party it's about Genocide.

Fantastic, England has been invaded by even more Muslims than the U.S. who are dragging it back to the backwards ass medieval ages. In fact it’s a lost case. Now it all makes sense. You must be one of them.

 

[Roudy]

Yeah all Arabs are terrorist murderers.

What a dumb ****.

Said the Hamas lover who says Israelis are Nazis.

 

[Roudy]

It isn't a war its sadism.

Maybe the subhuman Palestinian animals should be releasing the hostages?

 

[Deadstick]

Fantastic, England has been invaded by even more Muslims than the U.S. who are dragging it back to the backwards ass medieval ages. In fact it’s a lost case. Now it all makes sense. You must be one of them.

Well i am not one of them you clown, and its clear you know nothing about the history of Asians in the UK, many started coming here in the 1960s from our former colonies the Indian sub continent most to do jobs the Brits didn't want to do, they made their lives here and they are the ones who make up most of the Asian population, the boat people are a different thing altogether, hope that makes it clear for your racist mind.