No...Trump wasn't even close to being a fascist....Victor Davis Hanson explains...

[Magnus]

Can you refute any of the points made by VDH?

The application of fascism included "rules for thee and not for me" as well as blatant abuse of government agencies even when the official rules were not broken by those not in the favorable shadow of the regime.

Of course some Party members were made examples of, but those were extreme cases like Rohem being executed when the SA outlived it's usefulness, or when Striecher went off the deep end even in the eyes of Himmler and Hitler.

Sure.

Did Donald Trump weaponize the feared IRS, the logical place to find fascistic tendencies of any president bent on using government to punish his enemies? Did he push through a plan to add 87,000 new IRS investigative agents at a time of national discord?

Show where Biden "weaponized" the IRS or that he is pushing through a plan to add 87,000 new IRS agents. Go.

 

[Donald H]

trump was a borderline authoritarian but the arguments over whether he was fascist or not is stupid.
You are either for collectiveness and govt obedience or liberty for the people. The in betweens are meaningless.
Its like with hitler. Socialist or fascist? Who gives a fuck? He was a tyrant.

Fascism favours smaller government.

Elected government officials are replaced with lackies who are biased toward the ideals of the dictator. In that way the dictator can pose as the elected leader.

Communism or socialism favours bigger government by more social involvement, as opposed to capitalism's ideals of smaller government.

 

[martybegan]

Sure.

Nancy Pelosi married a really rich guy.

Republicans almost always choose to lie about the source of Pelosi's money. Recently they told one whopper about supposed insider trading, which has definitely earned them a spot in a deeper pit in Hell.

The point I'm making is that Republicans generally lie outright about everything, meaning that "you're just lying" will usually be the correct answer to any bogus question they ask.


A criticism of fasicm that tepid looks like an endorsement of fascism.

The thing is no Dem or no one in government wants to even ask questions, because they don't care about finding out the truth when it comes to Democrats.

It's amazing the pointless drivel you take time to type.

 

[martybegan]

Sure.



Show where Biden "weaponized" the IRS or that he is pushing through a plan to add 87,000 new IRS agents. Go.

Obama weaponized the IRS under Lerner when she went after Non profit conservative political organizations. the new 87K IRS agents are part of the "reduce inflation rofl" bill, and I have no doubt Biden is going to follow in Obama's footsteps.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Just pointing out the obvious.

What partisan left wing citations, exactly?

I'm not like you. Thankfully.

You aren't able to point out anything Progressive hate for all dissenting thought. VDH is a great mind, I have been reading him for years. No, you're not like me at all, you're a hate filled little man. Any questions?

 

[Donald H]

Sure.



Show where Biden "weaponized" the IRS or that he is pushing through a plan to add 87,000 new IRS agents. Go.

The left, or the socialist favours more government involvement while the extreme right favours no government involvement.
The political right's dictator takes complete control over all decisions being made by elected representatives by replacing them with his lackies who readily consent.

If they resist, they are murdered.

 

[Mac1958]

You aren't able to point out anything Progressive hate for all dissenting thought. VDH is a great mind, I have been reading him for years. No, you're not like me at all, you're a hate filled little man. Any questions?

Okay, he's a great mind. Very objective. He really provides an accurate and comprehensive examination of the whole picture.

There ya go. Just calm down.

 

[TNHarley]

Fascism favours smaller government.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Sure.



Show where Biden "weaponized" the IRS or that he is pushing through a plan to add 87,000 new IRS agents. Go.

Shut up and do your own research, anyone with a functioning brain and is paying any attention at all knows that Joe is indeed adding 87,000 new IRS agents.

 

[martybegan]

Okay, he's a great mind. Very objective. He really provides an accurate and comprehensive examination of the whole picture.

There ya go. Just calm down.

Why is objectivity required for intellect, or in any case being correct?

The fallacy of the middle, "Just because a position is moderate, doesn't make it right"

 

[Donald H]

Yes, the fascist dictator becomes government.

He can place trust in his chosen representatives as long as they are faithful. And if they stray from the dictator's prerogatives, they are murdered.

No important decisions were made without Hitler's consent!

 

[Mac1958]

Why is objectivity required for intellect, or in any case being correct?

I didn't say that, you did.

Another great example of why I no longer bother here.

 

[Magnus]

Obama weaponized the IRS under Lerner when she went after Non profit conservative political organizations. the new 87K IRS agents are part of the "reduce inflation rofl" bill, and I have no doubt Biden is going to follow in Obama's footsteps.

So, no? No proof? So, Hanson lied about this?

Next time, don't issue a challenge if you cannot produce. Will help you look less of a fool than you already appear.

 

[Old Rocks]

Can you refute any of the points made by VDH?

The application of fascism included "rules for thee and not for me" as well as blatant abuse of government agencies even when the official rules were not broken by those not in the favorable shadow of the regime.

Of course some Party members were made examples of, but those were extreme cases like Rohem being executed when the SA outlived it's usefulness, or when Striecher went off the deep end even in the eyes of Himmler and Hitler.

If any one of us even took one classified document without adequate security measures. we would be in cuffs and a cell the next day. Trump and his followers believe in the rule of a strong man over the rule of law. That is fascism and Trump and the Trumpanzees are fascists.

 

[martybegan]

I didn't say that, you did.

Another great example of why I no longer bother here.

You brought it up in a snarky condescending way, I didn't.

Stop trying to pretend you didn't imply it.

 

[TNHarley]

Yes, the fascist dictator becomes government.

He can place trust in his chosen representatives as long as they are faithful. And if they stray from the dictator's prerogatives, they are murdered.

No important decisions were made without Hitler's consent!

i dont think you know what big govt actually is.

 

[Magnus]

Shut up and do your own research, anyone with a functioning brain and is paying any attention at all knows that Joe is indeed adding 87,000 new IRS agents.

Another day. Another retard.

If "everyone knows" then you should be able to provide proof. Let's see if you can prove you are not a retard. Go.

 

[martybegan]

So, no? No proof? So, Hanson lied about this?

Next time, don't issue a challenge if you cannot produce. Will help you look less of a fool than you already appear.

You wouldn't accept any "proof" that doesn't fit your worldview, so it's pointless to reference anything for you.

The IRS under Obama went after Conservative 501 orgs far more than progressive ones, that's a fact. You can try to spin the reason any way you want, but we know the reason.

 

[Old Rocks]

You didn't even read the article. You just voted for Joe Biden.

Why the fuck should I read an article by an obvious fascist? My father and uncles gave years of their lives to fight bastards like that. I don't need to listen to the lies of the right wing nuts. I saw 6Jan21 live. If the fruit loops resort to violence to defend the treasonous fat senile old orange clown again, a whiff of grapeshot is in order.

 

[Mac1958]

You brought it up in a snarky condescending way, I didn't.

Stop trying to pretend you didn't imply it.

Your one-sided perceptions are not my problem.

You people are boring.