No Missiles For Hezbollah

[MJB12741]

So much to learn. So little time for that boy.

"Pakistan is Hindu." And "there are no nuclear Muslim countries". How blessed we are to have princess loinboy here for laughs.

Looks like loiney ran away with his tail between his legs !

Let's not gloat over Loinies faux pas. He may well be running away from a fatwah issued after he desecrated Islam by calling Pakistan a Hindu country.

 

[Jos]

Russia To Sell Anti-Aircraft Missile Batteries To Syria

Israel has warned the United States that Russia plans to sell sophisticated missile systems to Syria that would complicate any foreign intervention there, the Wall Street Journal reported.

The Journal reported late Wednesday that Israel had provided information to Washington about the imminent sale to Syria of Russian S-300 missile batteries, advanced ground-to-air weapons that can take out aircraft or guided missiles.

Russia To Sell Anti-Aircraft Missile Batteries To Syria, Israel Warns U.S.
These defensive weapons will be a game-changer, vastly complicating any Israeli/US/Nato attempts to create a no-fly zone over Syria, or attack it overtly.

 

[Hossfly]

Russia To Sell Anti-Aircraft Missile Batteries To Syria

Israel has warned the United States that Russia plans to sell sophisticated missile systems to Syria that would complicate any foreign intervention there, the Wall Street Journal reported.

The Journal reported late Wednesday that Israel had provided information to Washington about the imminent sale to Syria of Russian S-300 missile batteries, advanced ground-to-air weapons that can take out aircraft or guided missiles.

Russia To Sell Anti-Aircraft Missile Batteries To Syria, Israel Warns U.S.
These defensive weapons will be a game-changer, vastly complicating any Israeli/US/Nato attempts to create a no-fly zone over Syria, or attack it overtly.

Israel is awaiting shipment of the F-35. Can you spell stealth? Or Iron Dome?

 

[Jos]

stealth = Russia delivers supersonic cruise missiles to Syria

Haaretz



A military source told the Interfax news agency, “The Yakhont supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles have been delivered to Syria,” although it was not made clear exactly when the shipment was made.

A second Russian official speaking to Interfax said the missiles “will be able to protect Syria’s entire coast against a possible attack from the sea.”

Report: Russia delivers supersonic cruise missiles to Syria - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

 

[Jos]

Israel is awaiting shipment of the F-35. Can you spell stealth? Or Iron Dome?

F-35 fighter jet fleet grounded by Pentagon
BBC News - F-35 fighter jet fleet grounded by Pentagon

 

[Jos]

Syria attacks suggest Israel can act with impunity

Twice in three days, Israeli warplanes entered Syrian airspace and fired on suspected weapons caches bound for Hezbollah -- and nothing has happened in response.

Some experts are predicting that will continue to be the case following airstrikes near Damascus on Friday and Sunday that are widely believed to be the work of the Israel Defense Forces. According to reports, the strikes targeted shipments of long-range, Iranian-made Fateh-110 missiles capable of striking deep into Israel.

Israel hasn’t commented on the strikes, but the IDF has moved two Iron Dome missile defense batteries to its northern border and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu delayed his departure to China for several hours to convene his security cabinet. Meanwhile, Syria’s foreign minister told CNN on Sunday that the strikes amounted to a “declaration of war.”

Syria attacks suggest Israel can act with impunity | JTA - Jewish & Israel News

Pride goes before a fall! see the hubris dripping from these people! Israel is playing chess with Putin and they are about to be checkmated!

 

[toastman]

Russia To Sell Anti-Aircraft Missile Batteries To Syria

Israel has warned the United States that Russia plans to sell sophisticated missile systems to Syria that would complicate any foreign intervention there, the Wall Street Journal reported.

The Journal reported late Wednesday that Israel had provided information to Washington about the imminent sale to Syria of Russian S-300 missile batteries, advanced ground-to-air weapons that can take out aircraft or guided missiles.

Russia To Sell Anti-Aircraft Missile Batteries To Syria, Israel Warns U.S.
These defensive weapons will be a game-changer, vastly complicating any Israeli/US/Nato attempts to create a no-fly zone over Syria, or attack it overtly.

Exxept, the missile was launched from Lebanon with a long range missile from a F-16

Don't cry though !

 

[georgephillip]

Russia To Sell Anti-Aircraft Missile Batteries To Syria

Israel has warned the United States that Russia plans to sell sophisticated missile systems to Syria that would complicate any foreign intervention there, the Wall Street Journal reported.

The Journal reported late Wednesday that Israel had provided information to Washington about the imminent sale to Syria of Russian S-300 missile batteries, advanced ground-to-air weapons that can take out aircraft or guided missiles.

Russia To Sell Anti-Aircraft Missile Batteries To Syria, Israel Warns U.S.
These defensive weapons will be a game-changer, vastly complicating any Israeli/US/Nato attempts to create a no-fly zone over Syria, or attack it overtly.

Israel is awaiting shipment of the F-35. Can you spell stealth? Or Iron Dome?

Can you spell P-O-R-K?

"The Pentagon wants to spend about $8.4 billion in the next fiscal year to continue developing and purchasing Lockheed Martin Corp. (LMT)’s F-35, the fighter that is seven years behind schedule and 70 percent over initial cost estimates."

War whores of the world...unite!

Lockheed?s Troubled F-35 Unscathed in Pentagon?s Budget - Bloomberg

 

[RoccoR]

georgephillip, Hossfly, Jos, et al,

One has to remember that just about anything in the air can engage targets in and around Damascus.

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As you can see, Haifa is less than 100mi from Damascus. And both the airbases at Ramat and Afula are even closer.

Remember what I said. We can see everything, hear everything and direct everything. We own the sky. Granted, the S-330/400 Russian Air Defense systems are formidable, but not invincible. Even to non-stealth threats, they are vulnerable. You don't target the launchers, but the Target Acquisition Radars (TARs)(1L119 Nebo SVU)(these illuminate the targeted aircraft) and the Engagement Radars (ERs) (30N6E Flap Lid)(these provide mid-course correction to the SAM for intercept). You can have hundreds of missiles ready for launch, but without these two systems, they are blind. The "Wild Weasels/SEAD" pick-off these Radar/Command & Control systems, and the fighter bombers do the rest. The AGM-88 High Speed Antiradiation Missile [(HARM) (Mach 2: Range 30mi+)].

A "Wild Weasel" lifting off from Ramat and Afula can be at the border in 2 minutes at Mach 1, and in engagement ranges for ADA around Damascus in another two minutes. They can fly faint missions just to trigger the ADA Response, mapping for SIGINT as they go, or fly an interdiction mission on suspect radars.

Russia To Sell Anti-Aircraft Missile Batteries To Syria

Russia To Sell Anti-Aircraft Missile Batteries To Syria, Israel Warns U.S.
These defensive weapons will be a game-changer, vastly complicating any Israeli/US/Nato attempts to create a no-fly zone over Syria, or attack it overtly.

Israel is awaiting shipment of the F-35. Can you spell stealth? Or Iron Dome?

Can you spell P-O-R-K?

"The Pentagon wants to spend about $8.4 billion in the next fiscal year to continue developing and purchasing Lockheed Martin Corp. (LMT)’s F-35, the fighter that is seven years behind schedule and 70 percent over initial cost estimates."

War whores of the world...unite!

Lockheed?s Troubled F-35 Unscathed in Pentagon?s Budget - Bloomberg

(COMMENT)

You don't need the F-35 to combat the S-300 series SAM that is being taked about. You need a capable "Wild Weasel/SEAD" program.

There is a gamble in play. The Russians believe that the S-300/400 ADA SAM system can defeat US interdiction systems. It appears that they might try to test that theory; in a place that they can freely engage by proxy.

In over 4 decades, no country using Soviet/Russian ADA has successfully defended against US technology. The Russians have a lot riding on this. If they win, they win big. If they lose, they lose big. If we engage, it has to be a decisive victory in the air. If we lose, it will be a major setback for the US and NATO forces that depend on the ability to defeat those systems. If we engage and lose, everyone will be clamoring for Russian ADA to defend against US air superiority.

(END GAME)

Some think that (at some level) Syria is some kind of political game of "pork;" as evidence supra. Some think that (at some level) this is some sort of off-shoot of the anti-Israel game. But the fact is, that at the strategic level, this is about the Russians and the US performing maintenance on their regional influence. Fate chose Syria as the ground.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[georgephillip]

One of the recurring talking points on the left is the following:

During Desert Storm in '91 when the rest of us got our first look at the sophisticated hi-tech weaponry that decimated much of Baghdad, the Russians understood they could never compete with that level of technology. Hence they issued a public pronouncement that if a single member of the Russian armed forces ever dies from a US smart bomb, they will conduct a nuclear retaliation on the closest NATO installation.

Do you know if the Russians ever made that promise?
If so, is it still in effect today.
And even if that specific threat is not in play, what the HELL does happen if Israel kills Russian troops in Syria?

 

[irosie91]

One of the recurring talking points on the left is the following:

During Desert Storm in '91 when the rest of us got our first look at the sophisticated hi-tech weaponry that decimated much of Baghdad, the Russians understood they could never compete with that level of technology. Hence they issued a public pronouncement that if a single member of the Russian armed forces ever dies from a US smart bomb, they will conduct a nuclear retaliation on the closest NATO installation.

Do you know if the Russians ever made that promise?
If so, is it still in effect today.
And even if that specific threat is not in play, what the HELL does happen if Israel kills Russian troops in Syria?

Nothing-----russians died in the 1967 war in the SINAI-----russia never
complained. How stupid do you think they are----if they put their people
in the field----they expect some to die

 

[georgephillip]

Americans died in the Mediterranean in '67, too.
Wait 'till they get on CSPAN

 

[RoccoR]

georgephillip; et al,

I know of no such specific threat. But, it doesn't mean it was made. The Russians are known, from time to time, to let fly some bold speak. It doesn't mean it is credible.

One of the recurring talking points on the left is the following:

During Desert Storm in '91 when the rest of us got our first look at the sophisticated hi-tech weaponry that decimated much of Baghdad, the Russians understood they could never compete with that level of technology. Hence they issued a public pronouncement that if a single member of the Russian armed forces ever dies from a US smart bomb, they will conduct a nuclear retaliation on the closest NATO installation.

Do you know if the Russians ever made that promise?
If so, is it still in effect today.
And even if that specific threat is not in play, what the HELL does happen if Israel kills Russian troops in Syria?

(COMMENT)

I don't think such a threat is credible.

To be a military advisor or civilian assistance contractor in a foreign deployment always comes with risks. I think everyone who has been involved with such foreign training, assistance, and advisory elements knows this.

It is unlikely that a mission is undertaken to specifically kill advisors. It is more likely that a particular weapons system or logistical effort is targeted, and the advisor is killed through target proximity.

It happens. The controller, military attache, or senior advisor knows this and tries to reduce risk while still accomplishing the mission. But you still must be prepared to accept the occasional empty chair.

It is a special job calling, for rare and special people, to perform in an unusual environment.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[toastman]

One of the recurring talking points on the left is the following:

During Desert Storm in '91 when the rest of us got our first look at the sophisticated hi-tech weaponry that decimated much of Baghdad, the Russians understood they could never compete with that level of technology. Hence they issued a public pronouncement that if a single member of the Russian armed forces ever dies from a US smart bomb, they will conduct a nuclear retaliation on the closest NATO installation.

Do you know if the Russians ever made that promise?
If so, is it still in effect today.
And even if that specific threat is not in play, what the HELL does happen if Israel kills Russian troops in Syria?

Why would Russia commit suicide ?

 

[Hossfly]

Israel is awaiting shipment of the F-35. Can you spell stealth? Or Iron Dome?

F-35 fighter jet fleet grounded by Pentagon
BBC News - F-35 fighter jet fleet grounded by Pentagon

Don't fret about this, Yousef Mohammed. Everything will be worked out. Maybe they will take you and Frau Sherri up for the ride of your lifetime. It will be better than a "D" ride at Disneyland and something you both will never forget.

Video: The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter: the jet 'that almost flies itself' - Telegraph

 

[Hossfly]

Russia To Sell Anti-Aircraft Missile Batteries To Syria

Russia To Sell Anti-Aircraft Missile Batteries To Syria, Israel Warns U.S.
These defensive weapons will be a game-changer, vastly complicating any Israeli/US/Nato attempts to create a no-fly zone over Syria, or attack it overtly.

Israel is awaiting shipment of the F-35. Can you spell stealth? Or Iron Dome?

Can you spell P-O-R-K?

"The Pentagon wants to spend about $8.4 billion in the next fiscal year to continue developing and purchasing Lockheed Martin Corp. (LMT)’s F-35, the fighter that is seven years behind schedule and 70 percent over initial cost estimates."

War whores of the world...unite!

Lockheed?s Troubled F-35 Unscathed in Pentagon?s Budget - Bloomberg

Can you spell "exertion?" Maybe if you had exerted yourself earlier the way you exert yourself on this forum and no doubt many others. bashing Israel and America, you could have made something of yourself instead of whining about how much something costs when you pay no taxes at all and probably have paid very little in your lifetime.. Meanwhile, in your own city, the aerospace and defense industry was so huge; and perhaps if you had exerted yourself you could have gotten a job at Hughes, TRW, Aerospace Corp., Litton, etc. and now could have been sitting comfortable in your retirement. Don't forget, Georgie Boy, it is the taxpayers in Los Angeles who actually exert themselves who are helping to pay for your subsidized apartment, and many of them still work in the defense and aerospace industry.

 

[georgephillip]

One of the recurring talking points on the left is the following:

During Desert Storm in '91 when the rest of us got our first look at the sophisticated hi-tech weaponry that decimated much of Baghdad, the Russians understood they could never compete with that level of technology. Hence they issued a public pronouncement that if a single member of the Russian armed forces ever dies from a US smart bomb, they will conduct a nuclear retaliation on the closest NATO installation.

Do you know if the Russians ever made that promise?
If so, is it still in effect today.
And even if that specific threat is not in play, what the HELL does happen if Israel kills Russian troops in Syria?

Why would Russia commit suicide ?

It's still a M-A-D world.
Why would you commit suicide for Israel?

"According to the Federation of American Scientists, a renowned organization for assessing nuclear weapon stockpiles, Russia possesses the largest stockpile of weapons of mass destruction in the world."

Russia and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[georgephillip]

Israel is awaiting shipment of the F-35. Can you spell stealth? Or Iron Dome?

Can you spell P-O-R-K?

"The Pentagon wants to spend about $8.4 billion in the next fiscal year to continue developing and purchasing Lockheed Martin Corp. (LMT)’s F-35, the fighter that is seven years behind schedule and 70 percent over initial cost estimates."

War whores of the world...unite!

Lockheed?s Troubled F-35 Unscathed in Pentagon?s Budget - Bloomberg

Can you spell "exertion?" Maybe if you had exerted yourself earlier the way you exert yourself on this forum and no doubt many others. bashing Israel and America, you could have made something of yourself instead of whining about how much something costs when you pay no taxes at all and probably have paid very little in your lifetime.. Meanwhile, in your own city, the aerospace and defense industry was so huge; and perhaps if you had exerted yourself you could have gotten a job at Hughes, TRW, Aerospace Corp., Litton, etc. and now could have been sitting comfortable in your retirement. Don't forget, Georgie Boy, it is the taxpayers in Los Angeles who actually exert themselves who are helping to pay for your subsidized apartment, and many of them still work in the defense and aerospace industry.

I've never been sitting more comfortably in my entire life, Hossie.
Why do you always equate happiness with having a lot of money?
Too many Sunday's reaching deep to heap the old collection plate?
There isn't enough money in this world to pay me to kill children.
Maybe you should exert a little thought in that direction before you run out of time?

 

[Billo_Really]

loinboy;

Sometimes you kill me!

Pakistan is Hindu.

(COMMENT)

But, it was not totally without merit, given the history. After the separation of Pakistan from India under the Indian Independence Act of 1947, millions of people migrated, 7-to-8 million Muslims to Pakistan and 9-to-10 million Hindi from Pak to India.

In all fairness, in a time prior to 1947, you would --- you would have been right. Clearly the Muslim and Hindu did not assimilate well. But then, some religious factions have a history of not assimilating well with other cultures.

Most Respectfully,
R

If Pakistan decides to nuke anyone, it's going to be India.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Syria attacks suggest Israel can act with impunity

Twice in three days, Israeli warplanes entered Syrian airspace and fired on suspected weapons caches bound for Hezbollah -- and nothing has happened in response.

Some experts are predicting that will continue to be the case following airstrikes near Damascus on Friday and Sunday that are widely believed to be the work of the Israel Defense Forces. According to reports, the strikes targeted shipments of long-range, Iranian-made Fateh-110 missiles capable of striking deep into Israel.

Israel hasn’t commented on the strikes, but the IDF has moved two Iron Dome missile defense batteries to its northern border and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu delayed his departure to China for several hours to convene his security cabinet. Meanwhile, Syria’s foreign minister told CNN on Sunday that the strikes amounted to a “declaration of war.”

Syria attacks suggest Israel can act with impunity | JTA - Jewish & Israel News

Pride goes before a fall! see the hubris dripping from these people! Israel is playing chess with Putin and they are about to be checkmated!

We shall both enjoy watching the coming justice embrace Israel.