1. I do not think Muslims are a hive mind.
2. As I am not living in the time period of 1ad to 1945, that works for me.
That's a dumb statement, Cleetus... You ignore that fact that Jesus was perfectly fine with all the bad stuff Christians did before 1945... or at least his churches were..
As it is not relevant to today, yes.
3. I support the jews because A. I am anti-genocide, and B. the Arabs are assholes.
But you have no problem with genocide against the Palestinians. So if someone took your property tomorrow because a Magic Fairy in the sky said it was his, you'd be good with that? Just asking..[/QUOTE]
The Palestinians are not being "genocided". If someone took my property tomorrow? I would fight. I would not still be fighting 60 years from now.
4. The idea that the governments over there suck because of US, was a big part of the logic that predicted an easy transition to a liberal democracy in Iraq. IMO, that has been debunked.
Um. No.
Here's the thing. We PUT Saddam in power. Until he turned on us. And then we tolerated him because we knew that if they had "Democracy", they'd vote in the Shi'ites and be friendly with Iran. (which is what happened eventually, anyway.).[/QUOTE]
We did not put Saddam in power. We did not "tolerate" him. He ruled as he saw fit, without US.
My point about Iraq debunking your view stands. THeir shitty governments are not our fault.
5. We do not think that solution to everything is to bomb or invade it.
Since 1980, we've bombed, occupied or invaded -
Iran (1980, 1987-1988), Libya (1981, 1986, 1989, 2011), Lebanon (1983), Kuwait (1991), Iraq (1991-2011, 2014-), Somalia (1992-1993, 2007-), Bosnia (1995), Saudi Arabia (1991, 1996), Afghanistan (1998, 2001-), Sudan (1998), Kosovo (1999), Yemen (2000, 2002-), Pakistan (2004-) and now Syria.
Seems like our go-to solution for much of everything. .[/QUOTE]
Using that "logic" our relationship with Great Britain has been "bombing or invading it", as we have had troops there for a long time. And I've seen lefties try to make that absurd argument.
6. The Muslim World has NOT had our last 100 years of woman's rights. There is a real difference between them and us on how our cultures treat women. We need to be real about that BEFORE we import more of them and make them a larger part of our future CUlture fusion.
Yet two Islamic nations - Pakistan and Indonesia - have elected Female Heads of State! We on the other hand, rejected a woman to put a Nazi Game Show Host in..[/QUOTE]
HIllary didn't lose because she was a woman, and a couple heads of state does not refute my point about the cultures being different. Your godwin in noted. YOu are a fucking asshole.
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I think after we elected the "Pussy-Grabber", we really don't have any place to complain about how women are treated.
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LET equals consent. Try to be less of a liar.