NIH Funding of Research

[JohnDB]

Well, the funding cuts have come out. And no matter what your overhead costs are....the Government has decided them for you...it's 15% regardless. And it's not going to be the Department heads or big shots that are going to pay the price. It's the sandwich cart that's going to pay the price for this. People cost $$$. And buildings do as well, especially ones created specifically for research. (Often can't be repurposed for anything else due to the specific construction requirements and contamination)

NOT-OD-25-068: Supplemental Guidance to the 2024 NIH Grants Policy Statement: Indirect Cost Rates

NIH Funding Opportunities and Notices in the NIH Guide for Grants and Contracts: Supplemental Guidance to the 2024 NIH Grants Policy Statement: Indirect Cost Rates NOT-OD-25-068. OD

grants.nih.gov

Navigating the complex system of safety protocols, human rights, security, and patient privacy is not something that your average PHD can do.
And unfortunately your average researcher tends to not be the most ethically moral individuals to start with.....I forsee a disaster in the making.

In the Research Triangle alone the 2 Billion dollars getting cut energizes a whopping 5 Billion in economic activity.

This is not going to go as planned. This is a chainsaw instead of a scalpel. People are going to get hurt and die.

 

[pknopp]

I noted a long time ago that I would have started at 10% across the board and told any head of a department that if any service was cut they would lose their job.

After that was accomplished I would look at what needed done from there. If you simply cut jobs and services but leave the waste and fraud, you've actually been counter productive.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Decades of squandering billions and lying to the public. That time is coming to an end.

 

[JohnDB]

Sure, there has been waste, fraud and abuse in the Research community.

Some of it is the Government's regulations that cause it. Such as the purchase of electronic tablets and desks written into grant Research to use with patients. The data on them is stored on those tablets and nothing else can be done except that particular grant research....which might end in a year or two. But then it cannot be repurposed later for anything else.

That's Government regulations.

 

[JohnDB]

And it's not the people wasting the money that are going to suffer for this....it's average people at the bottom of the food chain that are going to get caught up in all of this.

 

[Oddball]

And it's not the people wasting the money that are going to suffer for this....it's average people at the bottom of the food chain that are going to get caught up in all of this.

You already suffered....You money was taken from you and pissed away.

 

[pknopp]

You already suffered....You money was taken from you and pissed away.

He didn't say that he was making his remark about himself. Some people can be that way.

 

[Marener]

This is also entirely illegal. The indirect costs are negotiated by institutions. In order to change them, they have to be renegotiated. Trump can’t just cut them because he wants to. There’s a process he has to go through.

 

[JohnDB]

I noted a long time ago that I would have started at 10% across the board and told any head of a department that if any service was cut they would lose their job.

After that was accomplished I would look at what needed done from there. If you simply cut jobs and services but leave the waste and fraud, you've actually been counter productive.

Where the specifics of this announcement might get halted is in the ongoing research projects.

The Government cannot just change past contracts they have already negotiated and agreed to. They agreed to certain prices to be paid. They need to honor that. Regardless of their current opinions.

Court case over this is coming up on Feb 26th? Or somewhere around then.

 

[1srelluc]

Tell the NIH that the "DOGE Boys" will soon be by to check on where funds are really going.

They will be lucky to see just a 15% cut would be my guess.

 

[JohnDB]

You already suffered....You money was taken from you and pissed away.

My ex wife has nothing to do with this.

 

[pknopp]

Where the specifics of this announcement might get halted is in the ongoing research projects.

The Government cannot just change past contracts they have already negotiated and agreed to. They agreed to certain prices to be paid. They need to honor that. Regardless of their current opinions.

Court case over this is coming up on Feb 26th? Or somewhere around then.

I don't disagree which is why I laid out how I would address it. Department heads can address contracts.

 

[JohnDB]

Tell the NIH that the "DOGE Boys" will soon be by to check on where funds are really going.

They will be lucky to see just a 15% cut would be my guess.

It's not a 15% cut....it's a cut to 15%.

Let's put it this way....your invermectin research will not happen under current guidelines. Invermectin is cheap. Like $1/dose. There is not a medical facility around that can research the effects of invermectin for $0.15 per patient. That won't cover so much as the enrollment paperwork for the study, advertising for participants, or for the government beaurocracy navigation.

 

[1srelluc]

It's not a 15% cut....it's a cut to 15%.

Let's put it this way....your invermectin research will not happen under current guidelines. Invermectin is cheap. Like $1/dose. There is not a medical facility around that can research the effects of invermectin for $0.15 per patient. That won't cover so much as the enrollment paperwork for the study, advertising for participants, or for the government beaurocracy navigation.

Oh well.

 

[JohnDB]

Oh well.

Well,
It currently is going to destroy current ongoing research of colon cancer. Which there is evidence that it can be stopped cheaply before it ever manifests. And unless the Administrative fees are increased....the research will be abandoned.

It's cheap to prevent, expensive to cure. But we won't know for sure if the inexpensive screening process is tested. Which costs money that just got cut.

 

[Mashmont]

There’s a process he has to go through.

That's codespeak for "We must allow the deep state leftwing career bureaucrats time to cover their tracks and keep their jobs."

No, you do what Trump is doing: get into their books before they knew what hit them. Gather the evidence, fire their asses, then cut or eliminate the corrupt department.