Nichelle Nichols as Uhura

[MostBoringManInTheWorld]

What do you think of Nichelle Nichols as Uhura, Billy Dee Williams as Lando Calrissian, Levar Burton as Geordi LaForge, Samuel L. Jackson as Mace Windu, and the cast of Roots?

Are these examples of woke and/or DEI casting?

Discuss.

 

[0311]

What do you think of Nichelle Nichols as Uhura, Billy Dee Williams as Lando Calrissian, Levar Burton as Geordi LaForge, Samuel L. Jackson as Mace Windu, and the cast of Roots?

Are these examples of woke and/or DEI casting?

Discuss.

Just good actors playing solid rolls, where you are just another racist asshole.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What do you think of Nichelle Nichols as Uhura, Billy Dee Williams as Lando Calrissian, Levar Burton as Geordi LaForge, Samuel L. Jackson as Mace Windu, and the cast of Roots?

Are these examples of woke and/or DEI casting?

Discuss.

Star Trek was diverse with a reason. A black African female communications officer, an Asian helmsman, an alien science officer, a hot blonde yeoman, stereotypical old country doctor, and a white captain authority figure built a diverse and well-rounded cast in the original series. The next year they added a Russian navigator for the space race. Even the second cast was only slightly more diverse than the cast of the original pilot. Early episodes even had a black doctor alongside the old country doctor.

This diversity extended through The Next Generation series also. The alien was a black actor, and the chief engineer was eventually filled with another black actor who was blind, and the alien was replaced with an android instead of a Vulcan, seeking to be more human instead of half-human. A new alien filled the role of counselor. It was formulaic. You see the same thing in Enterprise, Deep Space Nine, Discovery and Strange New Worlds. I believe Lower Decks was also the same, but I have never watched the entire series. Discovery had a first lead character female with a typically male name - Michael. That might be a little woke.

It's kind of difficult to make Roots without a black cast.

The ultimate example of wokeness was the play Hamilton, where black actors played white historical figures. My daughter is an adult and she loved it, but she tends to be a little on the woke side and I consider that a failure on my part. I didn't raise her right!

 

[MostBoringManInTheWorld]

Star Trek was diverse with a reason. A black African female communications officer, an Asian helmsman, an alien science officer, a hot blonde yeoman, stereotypical old country doctor, and a white captain authority figure built a diverse and well-rounded cast in the original series. The next year they added a Russian navigator for the space race. Even the second cast was only slightly more diverse than the cast of the original pilot. Early episodes even had a black doctor alongside the old country doctor.

This diversity extended through The Next Generation series also. The alien was a black actor, and the chief engineer was eventually filled with another black actor who was blind, and the alien was replaced with an android instead of a Vulcan, seeking to be more human instead of half-human. A new alien filled the role of counselor. It was formulaic. You see the same thing in Enterprise, Deep Space Nine, Discovery and Strange New Worlds. I believe Lower Decks was also the same, but I have never watched the entire series. Discovery had a first lead character female with a typically male name - Michael. That might be a little woke.

It's kind of difficult to make Roots without a black cast.

The ultimate example of wokeness was the play Hamilton, where black actors played white historical figures. My daughter is an adult and she loved it, but she tends to be a little on the woke side and I consider that a failure on my part. I didn't raise her right!

You say Star Trek was diverse with a reason.

But you didn't give the reason.

You simply stated what the diversity was.

Why was Star Trek diverse, and why was it not woke/DEI as most movies and TV shows today are accused of being if they have primarily non-white casts or even just one or two non-white-male actors?

 

[toobfreak]

What do you think of Nichelle Nichols as Uhura, Billy Dee Williams as Lando Calrissian, Levar Burton as Geordi LaForge, Samuel L. Jackson as Mace Windu, and the cast of Roots?

Are these examples of woke and/or DEI casting?

Discuss.

Nichols was an accomplished female vocalist working with big bands until Roddenberry discovered her, then she and Majel Barrett became his two main squeezes.

He worked Nichelle into the cast to represent african people in a culti-cultural ensemble.

 

[fncceo]

Why was Star Trek diverse

The crew of The Enterprise on "Star Trek" didn't come from Kansas (one of them was from Ohio), they represented the population of Earth (and Earth's ally, Vulcan).

For those of you who haven't traveled, Earth has a lot of Asians, and Black, and Brown people. It even has several million Russians.

If anything, statistically speaking, the crew of The Enterprise was decidedly monochromatic as a subset of humans from Earth.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You say Star Trek was diverse with a reason.

But you didn't give the reason.

You simply stated what the diversity was.

Why was Star Trek diverse, and why was it not woke/DEI as most movies and TV shows today are accused of being if they have primarily non-white casts or even just one or two non-white-male actors?

In the 1960s we were experiencing multiculturalism for the very first time. The Vietnam war had our troops fighting alongside Asians and troops came from around the world to fight alongside the US. When Gene Rodenberry envisioned the series, it was his idea of the old TV series Wagon Train, set in space, with a cast exploring new frontiers. Remember that line from the show into? "To explore new frontiers". Back then the US and Russians were the only ones in space, and we were both striving to reach the moon. He envisioned a world effort, like he saw in World War II. Think of the cast . Shatner and Doohan were Canadian, and one of the few white Americans was Learnard Nimoy and his parents were Russian Jews who emigrated to the US and settled in Boston. Only Deforest Kelly was a fairly well-known actor from his previous roles in westerns.

That is why Blacks, Asians, and non-Americans were cast. Look at the crew of the International Space Station today. Do you not see that there? People from 23 countries have visited the ISS. The Chinese have their own space station now. Rodenberry predicted the future very well. I actually met him when I was in college at my university where he was a guest speaker, and talked about some of these traits.

Producers didn't accept women in a leadership role in Star Trek until much later. In the pilot, Majel Barett played Number One, Captain Pike's second in command. Producers were having none of that and the pilot was redone, and she was recast as Nurse Chapel. Had she stayed, that would have definitely qualified as woke. Star Trek: Strange New Worlds returned to a female Number One, just like the pilot, now played by Rebecca Romijn. Captain Pike, and Spock still remain from the original pilot that was incorporated in the original series episode Menagerie parts I and II. Captain Pike, Number One and Spock's actors and characters all appeared in Star Trek: Discovery also.

Were the cast and characters diverse? Definitely! Was the cast woke? Not really. The original series addressed many social issues. If talking about them was woke, I guess you could say it was.

Diversity yes, but woke? Not to me, but your mileage may vary.

Yes, I have been a Trekkie since I was a kid and that's about as long as it has been around.

Live long and prosper.

 

[toobfreak]

The crew of The Enterprise on "Star Trek" didn't come from Kansas (one of them was from Ohio), they represented the population of Earth (and Earth's ally, Vulcan).

Kirk was actually from Iowa.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The crew of The Enterprise on "Star Trek" didn't come from Kansas (one of them was from Ohio), they represented the population of Earth (and Earth's ally, Vulcan).

For those of you who haven't traveled, Earth has a lot of Asians, and Black, and Brown people. If even has several millions Russians.

If anything, statistically speaking, the crew of The Enterprise was decidedly monochromatic as a subset of humans from Earth.

Iowa. Riverside Iowa is where James T. Kirk was born.

Live long and prosper.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Kirk was actually from Iowa.

Beat me to it!

Live long and prosper.

 

[fncceo]

I stand both corrected and stripped of all nerd cred.

I am truly a “Herbert”.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I stand both corrected and stripped of all nerd cred.

I am truly a “Herbert”.

Outstanding! You are definitely a Trekkie!

Live long and prosper.

 

[MostBoringManInTheWorld]

The crew of The Enterprise on "Star Trek" didn't come from Kansas (one of them was from Ohio), they represented the population of Earth (and Earth's ally, Vulcan).

For those of you who haven't traveled, Earth has a lot of Asians, and Black, and Brown people. It even has several million Russians.

If anything, statistically speaking, the crew of The Enterprise was decidedly monochromatic as a subset of humans from Earth.

So if Star Trek was only about Americans in space, plus a space alien, would the same cast have been considered woke?

By the way, Sulu was actually born in San Francisco. He was an Asian-American.

So was he representative of Asia, America, or both?

 

[MostBoringManInTheWorld]

In the 1960s we were experiencing multiculturalism for the very first time. The Vietnam war had our troops fighting alongside Asians and troops came from around the world to fight alongside the US. When Gene Rodenberry envisioned the series, it was his idea of the old TV series Wagon Train, set in space, with a cast exploring new frontiers. Remember that line from the show into? "To explore new frontiers". Back then the US and Russians were the only ones in space, and we were both striving to reach the moon. He envisioned a world effort, like he saw in World War II. Think of the cast . Shatner and Doohan were Canadian, and one of the few white Americans was Learnard Nimoy and his parents were Russian Jews who emigrated to the US and settled in Boston. Only Deforest Kelly was a fairly well-known actor from his previous roles in westerns.

That is why Blacks, Asians, and non-Americans were cast. Look at the crew of the International Space Station today. Do you not see that there? People from 23 countries have visited the ISS. The Chinese have their own space station now. Rodenberry predicted the future very well. I actually met him when I was in college at my university where he was a guest speaker, and talked about some of these traits.

Producers didn't accept women in a leadership role in Star Trek until much later. In the pilot, Majel Barett played Number One, Captain Pike's second in command. Producers were having none of that and the pilot was redone, and she was recast as Nurse Chapel. Had she stayed, that would have definitely qualified as woke. Star Trek: Strange New Worlds returned to a female Number One, just like the pilot, now played by Rebecca Romijn. Captain Pike, and Spock still remain from the original pilot that was incorporated in the original series episode Menagerie parts I and II. Captain Pike, Number One and Spock's actors and characters all appeared in Star Trek: Discovery also.

Were the cast and characters diverse? Definitely! Was the cast woke? Not really. The original series addressed many social issues. If talking about them was woke, I guess you could say it was.

Diversity yes, but woke? Not to me, but your mileage may vary.

Yes, I have been a Trekkie since I was a kid and that's about as long as it has been around.

Live long and prosper.

Actually, it wasn't the producers who didn't accept women in a leadership role, since Lucille Ball, Desi Arnaz, and Gene Roddenberry were the producers, and Roddenberry cast his future wife Majel Barrett as Number One, and Desilu Studios was obviously fine with it.

It was the network that didn't accept it.

But had she stayed, why would that have been considered woke, and by whom?

 

[0311]

You say Star Trek was diverse with a reason.

But you didn't give the reason.

You simply stated what the diversity was.

Why was Star Trek diverse, and why was it not woke/DEI as most movies and TV shows today are accused of being if they have primarily non-white casts or even just one or two non-white-male actors?

Because that is how Gene Roddenberry wrote it, you ******* dip shit racist. Different people, different worlds, different races. Racists only see skin color., just like you do.

 

[Auld Phart]

I stand both corrected and stripped of all nerd cred.

I am truly a “Herbert”.

no, your name is Mudd

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Actually, it wasn't the producers who didn't accept women in a leadership role, since Lucille Ball, Desi Arnaz, and Gene Roddenberry were the producers, and Roddenberry cast his future wife Majel Barrett as Number One, and Desilu Studios was obviously fine with it.

It was the network that didn't accept it.

But had she stayed, why would that have been considered woke, and by whom?

Everyone. Women did not serve in those roles. How old are you?

 

[Captain Creeper]

What do you think of Nichelle Nichols as Uhura, Billy Dee Williams as Lando Calrissian, Levar Burton as Geordi LaForge, Samuel L. Jackson as Mace Windu, and the cast of Roots?

Are these examples of woke and/or DEI casting?

Discuss.

I don't know about any of that. But I do know that Uhura was totally hot and bangworth. She is definately DEI (Dick Enters Immediately!).

 

[d0gbreath]

I don't know about any of that. But I do know that Uhura was totally hot and bangworth. She is definately DEI (Dick Enters Immediately!).

Well, that was shallow, Hal.