Next up on the Sexual Misconduct Parade - Al Franken!

[martybegan]

Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It

even has a picture in there grabbing the breasts of the woman on the USO tour while she was sleeping.

he needs to resign and step down.

Why is this whole thing starting to remind me more and more of the Salem Witch Trials?

The difference of course is that in many of these situations there is a valid complaint to be made, but the tone of the situation seems to be devolving into hysteria.

because the floodgates have been opened up.

i don't disagree there are some asshole men out there. we're seeing far too much of it and to a point i'm glad we're finding out just who these people are. but to the other point, we weren't around for a picture, we don't know the entire story and i still think if you didn't stop him 10 years ago, why bother now?

fad. pop culture. trend.

but if we're calling for moores head based on accusations and mob justice, gotta take diaperboy also.

Funny thing about floods is they don't discriminate as long as you are in the floodplain.

Agreed. Purge both sides of sexual harassers and assaulters. Demonize them on both sides of the aisle.

but then you will get to the point of over-reach and go after normal, if not awkward, human interactions that happen when people try to find sexual partners.

As I said, Salem all over again.

 

[martybegan]

I see that the top republican did not wanted to respond on the Al Franken matter. And everyone else just want an investigation on it before responding about it. But they all prejudged Senator Moore, and want him to step down before any investigation is done.

Al Franken IMMEDIATELY owned it, in case you've already forgotten, and has issued a statement.
Roy Moore keeps denying as more women (9 now) come forward.

He "owned' it with a 'ha, ha I thought is was a joke ha ha" non-apology apology.

No he didn't, douchette. Where did you get that? Breitbart? Don't you ever check your shit before you post it?

Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn., released the statement below following allegations he groped and forcibly kissed a radio host against her will:

“The first thing I want to do is apologize: to Leeann, to everyone else who was part of that tour, to everyone who has worked for me, to everyone I represent, and to everyone who counts on me to be an ally and supporter and champion of women. There's more I want to say, but the first and most important thing—and if it's the only thing you care to hear, that's fine—is: I'm sorry.

“I respect women. I don't respect men who don't. And the fact that my own actions have given people a good reason to doubt that makes me feel ashamed.

“But I want to say something else, too. Over the last few months, all of us—including and especially men who respect women—have been forced to take a good, hard look at our own actions and think (perhaps, shamefully, for the first time) about how those actions have affected women.

“For instance, that picture. I don't know what was in my head when I took that picture, and it doesn't matter. There's no excuse. I look at it now and I feel disgusted with myself. It isn't funny. It's completely inappropriate. It's obvious how Leeann would feel violated by that picture. And, what's more, I can see how millions of other women would feel violated by it—women who have had similar experiences in their own lives, women who fear having those experiences, women who look up to me, women who have counted on me.

“Coming from the world of comedy, I've told and written a lot of jokes that I once thought were funny but later came to realize were just plain offensive. But the intentions behind my actions aren't the point at all. It's the impact these jokes had on others that matters. And I'm sorry it's taken me so long to come to terms with that.

“While I don't remember the rehearsal for the skit as Leeann does, I understand why we need to listen to and believe women’s experiences.

“I am asking that an ethics investigation be undertaken, and I will gladly cooperate.

“And the truth is, what people think of me in light of this is far less important than what people think of women who continue to come forward to tell their stories. They deserve to be heard, and believed. And they deserve to know that I am their ally and supporter. I have let them down and am committed to making it up to them.”

Sen. Al Franken's complete statement on groping allegations

"Sorry I got caught, fuh fuh fuh"

 

[martybegan]

Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It

even has a picture in there grabbing the breasts of the woman on the USO tour while she was sleeping.

he needs to resign and step down.

Why is this whole thing starting to remind me more and more of the Salem Witch Trials?

The difference of course is that in many of these situations there is a valid complaint to be made, but the tone of the situation seems to be devolving into hysteria.

The situation with Bill Cosby started the wheels turning. Then all the firings at Fox Noise. Then the Weinstein thing got it off and running, which probably prompted women in Alabama to say...#MeToo, and so Roy Moore gets rightfully swept up in it just like Al Franken has now. So yo can see, it's something that has unfolded over the last few years. No hysteria here. Just an awakening. And one long overdue.

Nah, what prompted alabama was pure political gamesmanship. The problem with releasing a lion into the lion pit is that it usually can't tell the Christians from the guards.

Wrong again. Did you actually read the original WaPo article? Of course you didn't.
Accuser No. 5: Beverly Nelson is a registered Republican who voted for Trump.
And I guess you were unaware of this, too:

(The accuser here is on video)

Roy Moore accuser: I got him banned from the mall
Roy Moore accuser: I got him banned from the mall

• By CHRIS FRANCESCANI
  

Nov 16, 2017, 12:16 P.M.

An Alabama woman who has accused Republican U.S. Senate candidate Roy Moore of sexually harassing her in the late 1970s said he was banned from the mall where she worked after she complained about his repeated, unwanted advances toward her.

“I went to my manager and talked to him about it and asked him, basically, what could be done,” Becky Gray told ABC News late Wednesday night. “Later on, he…came back through my department and told me that [Moore] had been banned from the mall.”

Gray said she has grown increasingly frustrated with critics who continue to question the veracity of numerous women’s claims of being sexually harassed four decades ago by the embattled former Alabama chief justice.

“It also upsets me where I read where a person says, 'Well, why didn't they come forward 40 years ago?'" Gray said."""

She went on, “These women have no reason to lie about their sexual encounters… so I just don't understand people that don't believe that it's true. There's a lot of shame to this, and for those women who did have sexual encounters with Moore, I commend them for coming out - I really do. It's about time.”

Moore has emphatically denied ever sexually harassing women, and is not currently facing any criminal charges. He has not addressed Gray's allegations.

In an interview with MSNBC on Wednesday, Moore’s lawyer said because of unrelated litigation, he is familiar with the complaint procedures at the mall. “From what I have been told, [there] has never been a list with Roy Moore banned from being at the mall,” he added.

Moore and his attorney have challenged claims by another accuser, Beverly Young Nelson, that he sexually harassed her when she was 16 years old. The upcoming Dec. 12 special election to replace former Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions, who was appointed attorney general by President Donald Trump, is key to Senate Republicans. If Moore's Democratic challenger Doug Jones wins the election, it would narrow Republicans' majority from 52-48 to 51-49, and threaten to derail the GOP's legislative agenda. Senate Republicans have repeatedly called in recent days for Moore to withdraw his candidacy - a request he has vehemently rejected.

Any paperwork on said ban?

 

[dannyboys]

Who touched a 14 year-old?

Joe Biden?

Good old Joe wants to be the next President.
Lock up your little girls!

 

[NYcarbineer]

Funny that for all the hypocrisy being tossed around on these matters,

Trump now has managed to make himself the biggest hypocrite of all -

in two measures, actually...

1. Not a peep about Roy Moore, but almost immediately viciously attacks Al Franken

2. and, attacks Al Franken for doing things that Trump himself bragged about being able to do.

 

[jillian]

Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It

even has a picture in there grabbing the breasts of the woman on the USO tour while she was sleeping.

he needs to resign and step down.

Why is this whole thing starting to remind me more and more of the Salem Witch Trials?

The difference of course is that in many of these situations there is a valid complaint to be made, but the tone of the situation seems to be devolving into hysteria.

because the floodgates have been opened up.

i don't disagree there are some asshole men out there. we're seeing far too much of it and to a point i'm glad we're finding out just who these people are. but to the other point, we weren't around for a picture, we don't know the entire story and i still think if you didn't stop him 10 years ago, why bother now?

fad. pop culture. trend.

but if we're calling for moores head based on accusations and mob justice, gotta take diaperboy also.

Funny thing about floods is they don't discriminate as long as you are in the floodplain.

Agreed. Purge both sides of sexual harassers and assaulters. Demonize them on both sides of the aisle.

but then you will get to the point of over-reach and go after normal, if not awkward, human interactions that happen when people try to find sexual partners.

As I said, Salem all over again.

normal human interaction like touching 14 year old girls?

 

[jillian]

Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It

even has a picture in there grabbing the breasts of the woman on the USO tour while she was sleeping.

he needs to resign and step down.

I guess the Potus needs to step down as well, right.

got any pics of him groping people while they sleep?

no, moron. we have his on-tape admission.

what an asshatted fucktard doomed to stupidity for life.

yes, you are.

 

[iceberg]

Funny that for all the hypocrisy being tossed around on these matters,

Trump now has managed to make himself the biggest hypocrite of all -

in two measures, actually...

1. Not a peep about Roy Moore, but almost immediately viciously attacks Al Franken

2. and, attacks Al Franken for doing things that Trump himself bragged about being able to do.

nah.

your title is still safe.

 

[iceberg]

Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It

even has a picture in there grabbing the breasts of the woman on the USO tour while she was sleeping.

he needs to resign and step down.

I guess the Potus needs to step down as well, right.

got any pics of him groping people while they sleep?

no, moron. we have his on-tape admission.

what an asshatted fucktard doomed to stupidity for life.

yes, you are.

that's it? all you got?

wow. 4th grade sounds like it was the hardest 8 years of your life.

 

[martybegan]

Why is this whole thing starting to remind me more and more of the Salem Witch Trials?

The difference of course is that in many of these situations there is a valid complaint to be made, but the tone of the situation seems to be devolving into hysteria.

because the floodgates have been opened up.

i don't disagree there are some asshole men out there. we're seeing far too much of it and to a point i'm glad we're finding out just who these people are. but to the other point, we weren't around for a picture, we don't know the entire story and i still think if you didn't stop him 10 years ago, why bother now?

fad. pop culture. trend.

but if we're calling for moores head based on accusations and mob justice, gotta take diaperboy also.

Funny thing about floods is they don't discriminate as long as you are in the floodplain.

Agreed. Purge both sides of sexual harassers and assaulters. Demonize them on both sides of the aisle.

but then you will get to the point of over-reach and go after normal, if not awkward, human interactions that happen when people try to find sexual partners.

As I said, Salem all over again.

normal human interaction like touching 14 year old girls?

Got any pictures as proof?

No?

Nice attempt at deflection.

in the 3 other times with Moore they were all legal, and they haven't said anything bad about the way he pursued them.

Unlike tit-grab-tonguey-Franken.

 

[dannyboys]

I think Mike Pence’s respectful policy of not being alone with a woman in an intimate setting who is not his wife has been thoroughly vindicated. Pence shows ten thousand times more respect for women than Hollywood & Washington.

Pence has no respect for women as equals. The implication that it’s “dangerous” to be alone with a woman, even in a public restaurant, is just as disrespectful to her as expecting her to put out for you. It also means a female co-worker is not equal to a man since you can be alone with other men. Pence can’t ever hire a woman if the job required them to travel together on business or even go to dinner after hours even if she’s the most qualified person for the job. That’s sexual discrimination which is just as bad for women as sexual harassment.

As a young bank manager, I was frequently required to have dinner meetings with male supervisors to discuss marketing strategies, long term planning, and other matters without the constant interruptions of phone or subordinates. Not once ever was there a problem with these meetings.

Open frank discussions were possible because of mutual respect and because coworkers weren’t around to overhear or interrupt. Sex never entered into the discussions because it was inappropriate to a business meeting.

If a man truly respects women he can take a meeting alone with a woman and treat her as he would any other coworker.

 

[jillian]

I guess the Potus needs to step down as well, right.

got any pics of him groping people while they sleep?

no, moron. we have his on-tape admission.

what an asshatted fucktard doomed to stupidity for life.

yes, you are.

that's it? all you got?

wow. 4th grade sounds like it was the hardest 8 years of your life.

you didn't deserve more.

now be a good trump loon and tell us he didn't admit to grabbing women by the genitals and watching 15 year old pageant contestants change?

freak

 

[dannyboys]

No Dragon
When a man truly respects a woman he avoids all semblance of any impropriety or potential for such

Your definition would be fine if it ended after the word “impropriety”. If an man is incapable of being alone with a woman because of what he might do, that’s indicative of a lack of respect.

You need some mental help rosebud.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Just an update on the alleged 2nd accuser:

Bay Area radio host Melanie Morgan: Al Franken harassed me

Melanie Morgan, a longtime Bay Area conservative radio anchor, claimed Thursday that she was harassed with phone calls by Al Franken (D-Minn) in 2000, following a contentious debate on Bill Maher’s ABC late-night show “Politically Incorrect.”

"Morgan, a former host on conservative talk station KSFO, made the allegations on Media Equalizer, a blog she co-founded. She said the harassment consisted of Franken aggressively trying to continue the argument off air and repeatedly calling her personal phone number to “badger” her.
She said he later approached the show’s producer to get her phone number, “which was a clear violation of network protocol.” But Franken got the phone number and “shocked” her by calling her home at least three times."


No sexual misconduct is alleged.

Wow! Now this..this is the infamous 'Nothing-burger'. It appears to be the RW equivalent of 'click-bait'--in an attempt to get some airtime.

 

[jc456]

Evidently you do not know the difference between a 'kis' and 'sexual assault'. She stated she had to fight him off / forcibly push him off of her....and his story - and yours - about practicing for a skit does not jive when he physically felt her up while she slept.

But please, continue on with your justification of Franken's sexual assaults.

You are hopeless man. Putting his hands over her boobs and posing for an obvious photo is feeling her up, really? Why didn't she wake up. You'd think a women would jump up if somebody started gropping her in her sleep... please explain...

Kevlar.

Exactly... If he touches the back of her chair is he grabbing her butt?

dudettte you're looking desperate now. you should perhaps stop before you embarrass yourself more.

Do you think what Franken did was like stalking young girls in shopping centers like moore did Or what rich guys like trump did, grabbing all the meow he could?

i don't know who stalks young girls at shopping malls, but since you seem to be an expert, thanks for your insight on your current resume.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Just an update on the alleged 2nd accuser:

Bay Area radio host Melanie Morgan: Al Franken harassed me

Melanie Morgan, a longtime Bay Area conservative radio anchor, claimed Thursday that she was harassed with phone calls by Al Franken (D-Minn) in 2000, following a contentious debate on Bill Maher’s ABC late-night show “Politically Incorrect.”

"Morgan, a former host on conservative talk station KSFO, made the allegations on Media Equalizer, a blog she co-founded. She said the harassment consisted of Franken aggressively trying to continue the argument off air and repeatedly calling her personal phone number to “badger” her.
She said he later approached the show’s producer to get her phone number, “which was a clear violation of network protocol.” But Franken got the phone number and “shocked” her by calling her home at least three times."


No sexual misconduct is alleged.

Wow! Now this..this is the infamous 'Nothing-burger'. It appears to be the RW equivalent of 'click-bait'--in an attempt to get some airtime.

Angry phone calls to a talk radio host is now a crime ??? LOL

 

[jc456]

Interesting. There appears to be credible proof of Franken's obscene behavior.

That puts this as more credible than the Moore accusations, which have yet to provide any credible proof.

However, Franken has the same standard from Me as Moore does. He is innocent until proven guilty and this is simply an accusation at this point. Granted, a much more credible accusation.

I have noted the excuses being made by the rabid, mouth foaming, knuckle-dragging progressives who are attempting to make this less than it was. They must think it is okay for Democrats to harass and molest women, regardless of their wakefulness.

Franken made a move on an adult women and posed for an inappropriate photo. He owned his actions, apologized, and called for an ethics investigation. His apology was accepted by the accuser and she stated that she didn't want him to step down.

Are you really trying to equate that to Moores situation. We have how many? 8 accusers now, mostly young girls claiming much more aggressive sexual assault?

There are eight accusers and still no proof. Not even credible accusations at that.

So, Franken made a move on a sleeping woman. I guess if the woman is of age, regardless of wakefulness, its okay. But I'll tell you what.

Lets demand an apology from Moore and drop the whole thing.

You don't think a first hand account is proof? Especially ones that are backed up by dozens of sources saying that the victims told them about the events years ago?

First-hand accounts of what happened in private? Okay. Someone is lying to you people.

I am, however; laughing My ass off at the contortions going on.

Look, until I see proof, solid evidence....oh, like a photograph maybe.....I'm not going to believe these accusers. You're just going to have to allow yourself to abandon the entire principle of innocent until proven guilty. I sure wouldn't want to live in a world in which the power of accusation is all it takes to ruin a persons life.

Enjoy your night. I have to much to do to waste any more time on this.

Many situations come down to a "he said / she said" just because there isn't a photo or video to verify proof doesn't mean it is not possible to find the truth or have enough to make an educated guess. You have to listen to the accusers and the defense of the accused. You have to weigh the validity of each persons version of the stories. You seem to be skipping all of that and saying that since there is not hard evidence you are going to assume his innocence. Do you also assume Bill Clintons innocence when it comes to assaulting women?

it's statistically impossible to remember 38 years later exact details. sorry. accusations this late are useless without evidence four weeks before an election. that's called stink, stank, stunk. sorry but bring that yearbook to the court and let's have it looked at. k?

 

[dannyboys]

I close my eyes and envision Al Franken sitting in a Senate hearing falsely accusing Jeff Sessions of misconduct.
The image is so ironic it's sending a tingle up my leg.
I'm guessing we've seen the last of Franken sitting in judgement during the Senate investigation. LOL LOL!

 

[jc456]

Here's the latest on CAM .. God Bless Brave Women!

#GBBW

Roy Moore Accuser Tina Johnson Recounts Incident

where's mom?

 

[jc456]

There are eight accusers and still no proof. Not even credible accusations at that.

So, Franken made a move on a sleeping woman. I guess if the woman is of age, regardless of wakefulness, its okay. But I'll tell you what.

Lets demand an apology from Moore and drop the whole thing.

You don't think a first hand account is proof? Especially ones that are backed up by dozens of sources saying that the victims told them about the events years ago?

First-hand accounts of what happened in private? Okay. Someone is lying to you people.

I am, however; laughing My ass off at the contortions going on.

Look, until I see proof, solid evidence....oh, like a photograph maybe.....I'm not going to believe these accusers. You're just going to have to allow yourself to abandon the entire principle of innocent until proven guilty. I sure wouldn't want to live in a world in which the power of accusation is all it takes to ruin a persons life.

Enjoy your night. I have to much to do to waste any more time on this.

Many situations come down to a "he said / she said" just because there isn't a photo or video to verify proof doesn't mean it is not possible to find the truth or have enough to make an educated guess. You have to listen to the accusers and the defense of the accused. You have to weigh the validity of each persons version of the stories. You seem to be skipping all of that and saying that since there is not hard evidence you are going to assume his innocence. Do you also assume Bill Clintons innocence when it comes to assaulting women?

No, what I am saying is that if you wait 38 years to bring unsubstantiated accusations without proof at a time when such accusations can do the maximum damage to a person and benefit a group of people, then the credibility of all such people is suspect and requires hard evidence.

It really is NOT a stretch to say this is politically motivated.

Of course it was politically motivated. I'm not denying that. Not so much from the accusers. They had real stories and real experiences and I believe many of them are Republican. I imagine it is far from political for them. But sure Moores opponents and the news organizations were totally politicizing this... That doesn't mean the allegations are false. There is a reason why people like Hannity and Tucker and many conservatives are on the opposite side as you on this. Its pretty obvious that Moore is a scumbag

well we don't believe them. what is it you suggest?