Next up for Jan 6 panel…….Mike Pence

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Only If done through the legally allowable challenges and has been found to have merit.

Otherwise it is sedition. Criminal.

We either abide by our laws or we will have no nation.

Wait...so are you saying assaulting police and threatening the lives of congresspeople is NOT "legitimate political discourse"..?

What are you?

Normal?

 

[BackAgain]

No, he is afraid he will alienate voters he needs to fulfill his bizarre, delusional visions that the sky slaver wants him to be president some day.

Farty just reconfirmed that he is brainless.

 

[Rigby5]

Only If done through the legally allowable challenges and has been found to have merit.

Otherwise it is sedition. Criminal.

We either abide by our laws or we will have no nation.

You have it totally backwards.
The government is vastly the single most criminal element in our whole society.
So if the honest portion of society, the voters, even remotely suspect election fraud, they MUST act, demonstrate, and disrupt government completely, UNTIL their grievances have been totally and completely addressed.

We have always been a nation that violates laws, like Blacks being 3/5s of a person, Manifest Destiny, Vietnam, WMD lies about Iraq, mandated sentences, asset forfeiture, etc.

 

[Rigby5]

Wait...so are you saying assaulting police and threatening the lives of congresspeople is NOT "legitimate political discourse"..?

What are you?

Normal?

Symbolic gesturing, such as mock lynching of politicians, is a US tradition.
And no one "assaulted police", but were only trying to get through police who were illegally blocking their access to their representatives.

 

[Seymour Flops]

No, he is afraid he will alienate voters he needs to fulfill his bizarre, delusional visions that the sky slaver wants him to be president some day.

That is indeed a dream. Half the GOP hates him, and 100% of the Dems would hate him if he ever somehow won the GOP primary.

He must satisfy himself with being an * of history.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Wait...so are you saying assaulting police and threatening the lives of congresspeople is NOT "legitimate political discourse"..?

What are you?

Normal?

What were the names of the police officers that Ashli Babbitt assaulted?

 

[Sandy Shanks]

The Republican Senate Intelligence Committee reaffirmed its support for the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusion that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election with the goal of putting Donald Trump in the Oval Office.
Senate Intel report confirms Russia aimed to help Trump in 2016

J. Michael Luttig, a retired federal judge, said Pence heeding Trump’s directive would have “plunged America into what I believe would have been tantamount to a revolution within a constitutional crisis.”

The Post reports, "John Eastman, a conservative lawyer advising President Donald Trump, sought a presidential pardon after pushing a plan to overturn the 2020 election that he knew to be illegal, evidence and testimony showed during a hearing Thursday by the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection. Eastman had aggressively pushed a plan for Vice President Mike Pence to use his authority to help overturn the results, but acknowledged to Pence attorney Greg Jacob that the plot violated the law and would lose at the Supreme Court “nine to nothing,” Jacob testified.

"Giuliani and Eastman, two of Trump’s top advisers, knew their plot was probably illegal, witnesses said. And here’s the key thing: Knowledge of the plot being illegal is significant when it comes to proving whether the Jan. 6 plotters committed a crime. [If Trump's two key advisors knew it was a crime, then Trump knew it was a crime and White House lawyers were saying so.]

"Eastman emailed Giuliani and asked to be put on Trump’s pardon list."

"The House's ongoing Jan. 6 committee hearings are illegitimate and their presentation one-sided. They failed to include "all exculpatory witnesses, and anyone who so easily points out the flaws in their story," Donald Trump.

The committee has been literally begging for Trump's associates to come forward.

The Post continued, "Rep. Pete Aguilar (D-Calif.) specifically named House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.); Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.), and Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, who corresponded with Trump lawyer John Eastman about his attempts to overturn the election results."

Earlier, the committee had urged Mark Meadows, Trump's chief of staff, and others to come forward.

“We’re not going to close the door on hearing from anyone,” Aguilar said.

So far, none have come forward to defend Trump. Congressional Republicans are so quiet one could hear a pin drop.

The forum's Republicans remain silent on the issues as well.

With Trump as their leader, Republicans expect to win control of Congress in November.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Our country is in very serious trouble. When Americans say a coup attempt to overthrow the elected government is okay with them and put the party responsible back in power, we have a very serious problem.

The [Republican] Senate Intelligence Committee reaffirmed its support for the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusion that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election with the goal of putting Donald Trump in the Oval Office.
Senate Intel report confirms Russia aimed to help Trump in 2016

The Republican Party has captured the minds of those who live in the rural counties of America. Those voters are mostly farmers and rural shopkeepers. They lack education and they are not well-informed. Most of what they know about politics is by word of mouth.

For reasons they are unaware of and cannot explain, Donald Trump is their savior, thus explaining why they believe everything Trump says. Consequently, most of them have voted for Trump endorsed candidates in the primaries.

That is understandable. They don't know what is going on. All they know is, they like Trump for some reason.

What is disturbing is that many of these Republican candidates are winning. Most were favorites anyway. Here is the disturbing part. These candidates support the view that Trump won the election and the coup attempt on Jan. 6, 2021. If they didn't believe that, they would not have gotten Trump's endorsement.

In other words, Republicans running for office -- governor, secretary of state, state legislatures, U.S. Congress, etc. -- support the attempted overthrow of the elected government on Jan. 6, 2021.

There is no other way to read that.

Republicans on this forum will remain silent on these issues. After all, what can they say? Not even Trump is declaring his innocence. Neither are any members of the Republican Party.

 

[Clipper]

You have it totally backwards.
The government is vastly the single most criminal element in our whole society.
So if the honest portion of society, the voters, even remotely suspect election fraud, they MUST act, demonstrate, and disrupt government completely, UNTIL their grievances have been totally and completely addressed.

We have always been a nation that violates laws, like Blacks being 3/5s of a person, Manifest Destiny, Vietnam, WMD lies about Iraq, mandated sentences, asset forfeiture, etc.

Even when it's based on a pack of lies? Nice gaslighting job.

Trump accomplished in 5-6 years what our enemies have trying since the middle of the last century.

Nice job making it easy for him.

 

[lennypartiv]

How so?

He didn't side with America, he sided with the Democrats.

 

[Chillicothe]

"And no one "assaulted police", but were only trying to get through police who were illegally blocking their access to their representatives."

I love this bar!
It's the Mos Eisley Cantina.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I've noticed that the Democrats on that panel (I include Liz), keep referring to the next day's session as "our next hearing." Why are they pretending to have the conceit that each day's session is a new hearing? Somehow to puff it up?

 

[flan327]

Where are all the Republicans defending Mike Pence?

Do you support Trump sending an angry mob against him?
Hang Mike Pence

Disgusting POS

 

[CowboyTed]

Trumpers are going had core deflection...

 

[BackAgain]

Disgusting POS

That’s no way to talk to Leftwhiner, Fran.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Where are all the Republicans defending Mike Pence?

Do you support Trump sending an angry mob against him?
Hang Mike Pence

Defending Mike Pence from what? Not being beatified in front of a large enough viewing audience?

 

[rightwinger]

Absolutely a defense to a degree, as long as they did not cause great harm.
And I think they were very restrained and essentially harmless.
What is harmful is a congress that thinks it is above the law and the people, like the current congress.

Ummm…..it did cause great harm

People died and faith in our country diminished because the Crybaby Loser wouldn’t admit he lost Bigly

 

[rightwinger]

Defending Mike Pence from what? Not being beatified in front of a large enough viewing audience?

A man who recognized his country was more important than a boss who couldn’t admit defeat

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Symbolic gesturing, such as mock lynching of politicians, is a US tradition.

Has nothing to do with a single word I said or with what happened on January 6. You don't get a point per word you type.

 

[SweetSue92]

So far, it is compelling testimony

Why don’t you run on the Jan 6 insurrection if you are so proud of it?
Republicans can run on how well they beat Policemen

Sure honey...so compelling that NBC cut away yesterday...for GOLF.

You've already lost. Again. Even worse than before.