A person who walks into the Capitol with the Capitol police holding the door open for them is NOT a terrorist nor a law breaker in my opinion.
That's a defense used by some of them who claimed they were in the back of the mob and "didn't see" the mob tear down the barricades" and overwelm the police. At best that might cover a handful of people out of the almost a thousand who swarmed the Capitol. I stated this before and I will again, I reserve the word terrorist for a subset of those who broke into the Capitol.
Is "the door was open so I walked in" a valid defense?
Consider this scenario. When a Floyd protest turns into rioting and looting, the door to a shop is open and a protester walks in, did he commit a crime? Can he claim the door was open so I just walked in? Should he be charged with anything even though he didn't loot?
A person inside the Capitol with the Capitol police standing amicably among them and/or escorting them are NOT terrorists nor law breakers.
There were a couple of police doing that and taking selfies, and they have either been reprimmended or lost their jobs. But it isn't. The people breaking in KNEW they were entering illegally and yet they still did. I can't believe they were completely oblivious to the violence going on around them. Terrorists? That depends on other factors. Breaking the law? Most certainly.
You apparently see that differently. But then you probably haven't seen the video I have seen or heard the testimony I have heard--of course video and testimony nobody watching the rigged J6 hearing saw or heard--and so oh well.
I do see it differently. And while the hearing was politicized it was neither rigged nor inaccurate. The violence was real and well documented as well as the injuries inflicted on the police. The fact that some did not engage in violence doesn't change the fact that all were there illegally and engaged in some form of illegal activity: tresspassing, impeding, picketing etc within the Capitol.
Will I continue to defend peaceful people who harmed or threatened absolutely nobody? Absolutely.
The peaceful people were those that chose not to enter the Capitol. They are the ones I defend. The rest were at best fools who made bad choices and at worst terrorists.
Nobody can find a single syllable I've uttered or written that condoned the violence or vandalism that day. I
don't care if it was planned in advance and/or who planned it though Wray still refuses to say whether FBI agents were amidst it.
I do.
We still don't know why Ray Epps who is recorded in video multiple times urging people to go into the Capitol was never arrested and is not in jail while others who did far less than that still are in jail.
I disagree. Ray Epps has become a focal point of conspracy theorists who imo, are just trying to shift responsibity away from those who shouldbeheld accountable but are considered by some tobe "patriots".
The ones still injailare those who are facing major charges...not "far less" . These are not the ones charged with tresspassing.
On the other hand 'peaceful' is not blocking entrances to businesses and homes, obstructing traffic in streets or on bridges, disrupting meetings to the point they take over the podium and microphones or threatening people. It isn't occupying blocks of a city and dictating who can and cannot be there.
Like the truck convoy was doing?
We might have a point of agreement here.
Law enforcement walks a fine line between free speech rights and criminal behavior andI get that. People have a right to protest, even if it means blocking streets or obstructing traffic, but at some point it has to stop because it is impinging on the rights of other people: localbusinesses, folks who commute orlive there etc. That is what happened with the truck convoy when they started blocking access to a bridge, preventing local business' from operating, keeping residents awake with their horns etc. That is why they were finally forced to to move.
And that applies to any other protest. The CHOP zone went on way too long and severely impacted local busi esses. And city officials are now the subject of lawsuits by those businesses (deservedly so).
And it darn sure isn't assaulting, injuring, murdering innocent people, breaking and entering, looting, burning, vandalizing, destroying, terrorizing that was a component of so many of those rallies the media is fond of describing as 'mostly peaceful protests.' And I have yet to see a BLM organizer or leader condemn any of that or tell anyone to stop it.
There were thousands of protests, the majority of which WERE peaceful. Not any different from the Jan 6 rallywere the majority of participants chose to be peaceful and stop short ofbreaking into the Capitol.
And I agree,
And it darn sure isn't assaulting, injuring, murdering innocent people, breaking and entering, looting, burning, vandalizing, destroying, terrorizing
and that is why I strongly disagree with about those who entered the Capitol that day.
Until those on the left can admit the summer of violence in 2020 was far worse than anything that happened at the Capitol on J6 we will never arrive at a point where all unnecessary or unlawful violence is condemned no matter who does it.
It was not far worse. Our nation's Capitol was attacked, our lawmakers were attacked, and there was an attempt to violently overturn an election that was unprecedent in more than a century and a half of respecting the peaceful transfer of power. There is nothing to compare and that is not excusing the riots, they just aren't in the same ballpark.
(I apologize for breaking it up but there are too many different points in here)