New Yorkers Shocked To Find Food Prices Rising After Minimum Wage Hike

[Blues Man]

our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are pure socialism on a national basis.

By definition they are not

...
No they, [i.e. government expenditures for government services ] aren't [service products].
Laws and law enforcement aren't production.

Blues Man, U.S. Department of Defense expenditures are due to services they provide to our nation. You or I may consider many of their expenditures as wasteful, but never the less their expenditures are included within USA's annual gross domestic products. Similarly, all net law enforcement expenditures within the USA are services to our nation that are included within the calculations of our annual GDPs.

We do not test the wisdom of the expenditures that are included within our nation's expenditures. If the voters choose to squander their government's tax revenues and public credit on behalf of sports stadiums, no more or less than what our nation spends to maintain our pets, or purchase cosmetics, these are all included within our calculations of our nation's annual GDPs of goods and service products.

Although you don't choose to consider the cost of our legal justice system and law enforcement as production, economist as expressed within the calculations of our nations' GDPs do so consider them within the aggregate goods and service products we all consume.

Respectfully, Supposn

It isn't production.

and it certainly isn't socialism by definition.

 

[danielpalos]

One simple question for you, Daniel! How do you raise minimum wage without a corresponding increase in ALL wages?

OldStyle, Federal Minimum's wage rate, (due to the wage differentiation concept), bolsters all USA wage scales, but it doesn't proportionally affect them all equally. The minimum rate's of greatest proportional benefit to the those earning the lowest 20% of USA job scales and of lesser proportional benefit to those earning higher wage scales.

The minimum's effect is inversely related to difference between the minimum's and the job's actual job's rate.

[Minimum rate's effect upon various wage scales vary.
To the extents that wage rates' vary, the minimum rate's proportional effects upon products' labor costs vary.
To the extent that products' proportion of costs due to labor vary, the minimum rate's effect upon a product's total costs vary.

To the extent that our nation produces various products and all of the other prior mentioned “moving parts”, the minimum rate's proportional increase upon our nation's aggregate products' prices, are extremely less than the proportional increase of the minimum rate itself or the proportional net benefits to USA wage earners and their families.

Respectfully, Supposn

I give you the same question, Supposn. If you raise the national minimum wage to $15 an hour...how are you NOT going to have everyone who wasn't working for minimum wage because they had learned job skills that got them more money...not knocking on their bosses door asking for a raise? Do you honestly think that someone who used to make $15 an hour but had started their job at $7.50 an hour isn't going to demand to be compensated for those additional job skills? In Communist countries they can get away with paying everyone the same rate no matter what skills they have but to be brutally frank with you...if you try that here...you'll have people rioting in the streets!

Gravity Payments still supports a thirty-five dollar an hour model.

 

[danielpalos]

Your Point?

What's yours?

That other peoples' money belongs to you?

Congress is delegated the Power not the Right to Tax, for a Reason.

So what?

Other people's money is not yours. You pay your taxes I pay mine but I have no claim on what you earn

It is not Your money if we have problems in our Republic. Government is socialism. Congress has Power to Tax.

Congress has the power to tax if we allow them to do so! Congress is not the "landed gentry" lording it over the rest of us...they are our representatives and are in Washington to do our bidding.

Tax cut economics are worthless if they don't balance the budget.

 

[danielpalos]

thank Goodness we are more liberal now and don't insist on silly right wing social requirements.

/——/ It wasn’t a Gubmint program and it eventually fell by the way side.

raising the minimum wage to appropriate levels can boost our economy.

One simple question for you, Daniel! How do you raise minimum wage without a corresponding increase in ALL wages?

Your Point?

What does wealth inequality have to do with my question? Try not to be TOO obtuse, Daniel! It's a simple question. How do you increase the minimum wage to $15 an hour and not see a huge spike in wage increases to everyone else?

Higher paid labor pays more in Taxes and create more in Demand. Capitalism, what capital concept.

 

[Blues Man]

What's yours?

That other peoples' money belongs to you?

Congress is delegated the Power not the Right to Tax, for a Reason.

So what?

Other people's money is not yours. You pay your taxes I pay mine but I have no claim on what you earn

It is not Your money if we have problems in our Republic. Government is socialism. Congress has Power to Tax.

Congress has the power to tax if we allow them to do so! Congress is not the "landed gentry" lording it over the rest of us...they are our representatives and are in Washington to do our bidding.

Tax cut economics are worthless if they don't balance the budget.

When you have a budget you balance it by not spending more than you make

The morons in government have yet to learn this most fundamental tenet

 

[danielpalos]

The public resources dedicated to our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror; and public sector means of "social" production that have no basis in Capitalism.

No they aren't

Laws and law enforcement aren't production.

they are public sector means of production for "social values" not capital values.

You cannot produce values as values are intangible

You really don't have a very good command of the language do you?

socialism is about social values not capital values. Only the right wing, Never gets it.

Have you looked up the definition of socialism yet?

Word mean things.

Socialism

: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

did you miss the Point? we are quibbling social-ism. Social is a word in a dictionary.

 

[Blues Man]

/——/ It wasn’t a Gubmint program and it eventually fell by the way side.

raising the minimum wage to appropriate levels can boost our economy.

One simple question for you, Daniel! How do you raise minimum wage without a corresponding increase in ALL wages?

Your Point?

What does wealth inequality have to do with my question? Try not to be TOO obtuse, Daniel! It's a simple question. How do you increase the minimum wage to $15 an hour and not see a huge spike in wage increases to everyone else?

Higher paid labor pays more in Taxes and create more in Demand. Capitalism, what capital concept.

And when the price of everything rises that higher pay is negated.

IF you waved your magic unicorn horn wand and every single person that is getting less than $15 an hour gets a raise then the price of everything would rise so the people who got a raise would be paying more for everything and the people who didn't get a raise would lose what purchasing power they had

This is an extension of the Broken Windows fallacy

 

[danielpalos]

Congress is delegated the Power not the Right to Tax, for a Reason.

So what?

Other people's money is not yours. You pay your taxes I pay mine but I have no claim on what you earn

It is not Your money if we have problems in our Republic. Government is socialism. Congress has Power to Tax.

Congress has the power to tax if we allow them to do so! Congress is not the "landed gentry" lording it over the rest of us...they are our representatives and are in Washington to do our bidding.

Tax cut economics are worthless if they don't balance the budget.

When you have a budget you balance it by not spending more than you make

The morons in government have yet to learn this most fundamental tenet

only the right wing praises the virtues of tax cut economics in public venues.

 

[Blues Man]

No they aren't

Laws and law enforcement aren't production.

they are public sector means of production for "social values" not capital values.

You cannot produce values as values are intangible

You really don't have a very good command of the language do you?

socialism is about social values not capital values. Only the right wing, Never gets it.

Have you looked up the definition of socialism yet?

Word mean things.

Socialism

: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

did you miss the Point? we are quibbling social-ism. Social is a word in a dictionary.

Words mean things when you make up definitions then what you say is utterly meaningless

 

[danielpalos]

raising the minimum wage to appropriate levels can boost our economy.

One simple question for you, Daniel! How do you raise minimum wage without a corresponding increase in ALL wages?

Your Point?

What does wealth inequality have to do with my question? Try not to be TOO obtuse, Daniel! It's a simple question. How do you increase the minimum wage to $15 an hour and not see a huge spike in wage increases to everyone else?

Higher paid labor pays more in Taxes and create more in Demand. Capitalism, what capital concept.

And when the price of everything rises that higher pay is negated.

IF you waved your magic unicorn horn wand and every single person that is getting less than $15 an hour gets a raise then the price of everything would rise so the people who got a raise would be paying more for everything and the people who didn't get a raise would lose what purchasing power they had

This is an extension of the Broken Windows fallacy

All you have is a fallacy of false Cause by appealing to ignorance of economics.

 

[Cellblock2429]

raising the minimum wage to appropriate levels can boost our economy.

One simple question for you, Daniel! How do you raise minimum wage without a corresponding increase in ALL wages?

Your Point?

What does wealth inequality have to do with my question? Try not to be TOO obtuse, Daniel! It's a simple question. How do you increase the minimum wage to $15 an hour and not see a huge spike in wage increases to everyone else?

Higher paid labor pays more in Taxes and create more in Demand. Capitalism, what capital concept.

And when the price of everything rises that higher pay is negated.

IF you waved your magic unicorn horn wand and every single person that is getting less than $15 an hour gets a raise then the price of everything would rise so the people who got a raise would be paying more for everything and the people who didn't get a raise would lose what purchasing power they had

This is an extension of the Broken Windows fallacy

/——/ New Yorkers shocked to find food prices rising after minimum wage hike

 

[Blues Man]

So what?

Other people's money is not yours. You pay your taxes I pay mine but I have no claim on what you earn

It is not Your money if we have problems in our Republic. Government is socialism. Congress has Power to Tax.

Congress has the power to tax if we allow them to do so! Congress is not the "landed gentry" lording it over the rest of us...they are our representatives and are in Washington to do our bidding.

Tax cut economics are worthless if they don't balance the budget.

When you have a budget you balance it by not spending more than you make

The morons in government have yet to learn this most fundamental tenet

only the right wing praises the virtues of tax cut economics in public venues.

If you want to create demand then let people keep more of the money they earn so they have more to spend.

This way everyone's spending power increases

 

[danielpalos]

our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are pure socialism on a national basis.

By definition they are not

...
No they, [i.e. government expenditures for government services ] aren't [service products].
Laws and law enforcement aren't production.

Blues Man, U.S. Department of Defense expenditures are due to services they provide to our nation. You or I may consider many of their expenditures as wasteful, but never the less their expenditures are included within USA's annual gross domestic products. Similarly, all net law enforcement expenditures within the USA are services to our nation that are included within the calculations of our annual GDPs.

We do not test the wisdom of the expenditures that are included within our nation's expenditures. If the voters choose to squander their government's tax revenues and public credit on behalf of sports stadiums, no more or less than what our nation spends to maintain our pets, or purchase cosmetics, these are all included within our calculations of our nation's annual GDPs of goods and service products.

Although you don't choose to consider the cost of our legal justice system and law enforcement as production, economist as expressed within the calculations of our nations' GDPs do so consider them within the aggregate goods and service products we all consume.

Respectfully, Supposn

It isn't production.

and it certainly isn't socialism by definition.

Why are we wasting the (other) Peoples' tax monies if our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are not those public sector means of social production not capital production?

 

[Blues Man]

One simple question for you, Daniel! How do you raise minimum wage without a corresponding increase in ALL wages?

Your Point?

What does wealth inequality have to do with my question? Try not to be TOO obtuse, Daniel! It's a simple question. How do you increase the minimum wage to $15 an hour and not see a huge spike in wage increases to everyone else?

Higher paid labor pays more in Taxes and create more in Demand. Capitalism, what capital concept.

And when the price of everything rises that higher pay is negated.

IF you waved your magic unicorn horn wand and every single person that is getting less than $15 an hour gets a raise then the price of everything would rise so the people who got a raise would be paying more for everything and the people who didn't get a raise would lose what purchasing power they had

This is an extension of the Broken Windows fallacy

All you have is a fallacy of false Cause by appealing to ignorance of economics.

No I have decades of experience running a business

You have no idea how much it costs to employ a person do you?

 

[dblack]

Since labor is only 20% of the price, doubling the labor costs only raises the price 20%. Try and remain calm. The number of people that can afford the cost more than makes up for it.

Does it? How does that make any sense? Unless you're raising everyone's wages by 20%, those not getting the raises will be able to afford less eating out.

I suppose you could make the point that raising the bottom wage to $15/hr would effectively raise the wages of everyone above that too (along with prices) but if it all zeros out in the end, what's the fucking point?

 

[danielpalos]

they are public sector means of production for "social values" not capital values.

You cannot produce values as values are intangible

You really don't have a very good command of the language do you?

socialism is about social values not capital values. Only the right wing, Never gets it.

Have you looked up the definition of socialism yet?

Word mean things.

Socialism

: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

did you miss the Point? we are quibbling social-ism. Social is a word in a dictionary.

Words mean things when you make up definitions then what you say is utterly meaningless

lol. yes, socialism as term was invented for the Cold War, "to dumb it down for the right wing".

did you miss the Point? we are quibbling social-ism. Social is a word in a dictionary.

 

[Cellblock2429]

So what?

Other people's money is not yours. You pay your taxes I pay mine but I have no claim on what you earn

It is not Your money if we have problems in our Republic. Government is socialism. Congress has Power to Tax.

Congress has the power to tax if we allow them to do so! Congress is not the "landed gentry" lording it over the rest of us...they are our representatives and are in Washington to do our bidding.

Tax cut economics are worthless if they don't balance the budget.

When you have a budget you balance it by not spending more than you make

The morons in government have yet to learn this most fundamental tenet

only the right wing praises the virtues of tax cut economics in public venues.

/—-/ Becauae libtards never praise people keeping more of their own money in public. They do, however, tell their tax preparer to take every deduction they possibly can even inflating their expenses- greedy little bast*rds

 

[Blues Man]

our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are pure socialism on a national basis.

By definition they are not

...
No they, [i.e. government expenditures for government services ] aren't [service products].
Laws and law enforcement aren't production.

Blues Man, U.S. Department of Defense expenditures are due to services they provide to our nation. You or I may consider many of their expenditures as wasteful, but never the less their expenditures are included within USA's annual gross domestic products. Similarly, all net law enforcement expenditures within the USA are services to our nation that are included within the calculations of our annual GDPs.

We do not test the wisdom of the expenditures that are included within our nation's expenditures. If the voters choose to squander their government's tax revenues and public credit on behalf of sports stadiums, no more or less than what our nation spends to maintain our pets, or purchase cosmetics, these are all included within our calculations of our nation's annual GDPs of goods and service products.

Although you don't choose to consider the cost of our legal justice system and law enforcement as production, economist as expressed within the calculations of our nations' GDPs do so consider them within the aggregate goods and service products we all consume.

Respectfully, Supposn

It isn't production.

and it certainly isn't socialism by definition.

Why are we wasting the (other) Peoples' tax monies if our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are not those public sector means of social production not capital production?

Those are entirely different issues and have nothing to do with the topic

But for what it's worth I think the war on drugs is a waste and that all drugs should be legalized.
And I don't know if there is a war on crime as you say but we do tend to imprison too many people for nonviolent crimes

And you don't seem to realize that you are arguing that the government wastes too much money while you are simultaneously saying we should give the government more money

 

[danielpalos]

It is not Your money if we have problems in our Republic. Government is socialism. Congress has Power to Tax.

Congress has the power to tax if we allow them to do so! Congress is not the "landed gentry" lording it over the rest of us...they are our representatives and are in Washington to do our bidding.

Tax cut economics are worthless if they don't balance the budget.

When you have a budget you balance it by not spending more than you make

The morons in government have yet to learn this most fundamental tenet

only the right wing praises the virtues of tax cut economics in public venues.

If you want to create demand then let people keep more of the money they earn so they have more to spend.

This way everyone's spending power increases

in right wing fantasy, you are Always right.

stop complaining about the cost of broken social service windows.

raising the minimum wage means more people have more money.

come on chics, help us out;

the law of large numbers or,

we are not going!

 

[Blues Man]

You cannot produce values as values are intangible

You really don't have a very good command of the language do you?

socialism is about social values not capital values. Only the right wing, Never gets it.

Have you looked up the definition of socialism yet?

Word mean things.

Socialism

: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

did you miss the Point? we are quibbling social-ism. Social is a word in a dictionary.

Words mean things when you make up definitions then what you say is utterly meaningless

lol. yes, socialism as term was invented for the Cold War, "to dumb it down for the right wing".

did you miss the Point? we are quibbling social-ism. Social is a word in a dictionary.

You are not making a point

you are however making up definitions