New POLL: 72% of Americans choose saving lives over the health of the U.S. Economy.

[Contumacious]

If saving lives is the politicians number one concern , were Americans ever asked whether they approve having the Pentagon weaponize the coronavirus?

Sparky, China created the Wuhan virus in a level 4 biological weapons facility.

Do at least TRY and keep up.

HUH? You make the fucking effort and keep up


A controversial scientist who carried out provocative research on making influenza viruses more infectious has completed his most dangerous experiment to date by deliberately creating a pandemic strain of flu that can evade the human immune system.


Yoshihiro Kawaoka of the University of Wisconsin-Madison has genetically manipulated the 2009 strain of pandemic flu in order for it to “escape” the control of the immune system’s neutralising antibodies, effectively making the human population defenceless against its reemergence.

Seriously dude?

First off, the Wuhan virus is NOT THE FLU. It is a form of Corona virus. Secondly, China clearly designed this to crush the protests in Hong Kong.

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Given the above facts, either:

– A coronavirus spontaneously mutated and jumped to humans at a wet market or deep in some random bat cave which just so happened to be 20 miles from China’s only BSL-4 virology lab, a virus with an unusually slippery never-before-seen genome that’s evading zoological classification, and whose spike-protein region which allows it to enter host cells appears most like a bio-engineered commercial product, that somehow managed to infect its first three and roughly one-third of its initial victims despite them not being connected to this market, and then be so fined-tuned to humans that it’s gone on to create the single greatest public health crisis in Chinese history with approaching 100 million citizens locked-down or quarantined – also causing Mongolia to close its border with its largest trading partner for the first time in modern history.

– Or, Chinese scientists failed to follow correct sanitation protocols possibly while in a rush during their boisterous holiday season, something that had been anticipated since the opening of the BSL-4 lab and has happened at least four times previously, and accidentally released this bio-engineered Wuhan Strain – likely created by scientists researching immunotherapy regimes against bat coronaviruses, who’ve already demonstrated the ability to perform every step necessary to bio-engineer the Wuhan Strain 2019-nCov – into their population, and now the world. As would be expected, this virus appears to have been bio-engineered at the spike-protein genes which was already done at UNC to make an extraordinarily virulent coronavirus. Chinese efforts to stop the full story about what’s going on are because they want the scales to be even since they’re now facing a severe pandemic and depopulation event. No facts point against this conclusion.

}

Was COVID19 Bioengineered By China?

Amazing scientific detective work points to that conclusion

www.theamericanconservative.com

Whatever nonsense the CIA under Obama was doing with biowarfare is not connected to the Wuhan virus, no matter how badly you want to blame America.

Seriously dude?

Do you really want the bastards at Fort Detrick to continue weaponizing viruses because of your misunderstanding of what PATRIOTISM actually requires?!?!?!?!?

Your misplaced sense "patriotism" is impeding you from handling the truth?


Fort Detrick lab shut down after failed safety inspection; all research halted indefinitely

 

[okfine]

Do these people think letting the economy crash will have no negative impact or cost lives just curious if they consider that. It's rather sad that we have become such an either or society and that we now believe we can't try and accomplish both keeping people safe and saving the economy.

Yes, no focus on slowing the curve. Because as we've been advised by an Orange Turd, MILLIONS would be committing suicide!

So why hasn’t the curve been flattened in NY, where #PresidentCuomo is in charge?

Doesn't have a damn thing to do with politics. It has to do with incompetency at the top.

So where is the Democrat plan to deal with it? Two months ago they were telling us President Trump was the greatest threat to national security, not a virus spreading through Asia.

I think they have been proven right given Trump's failure to stop or contain the virus in the United States.

Just Trump eh? No criticism for Pelosi handing out impeachment pens when this thing was growing and the ONLY Person doing anything in this country was Trump?

I want one. You know, a pen.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Seriously dude?

Do you really want the bastards at Fort Detrick to continue weaponizing viruses because of your misunderstanding of what PATRIOTISM actually requires?!?!?!?!?

Your misplaced sense "patriotism" is impeding you from handling the truth?


Fort Detrick lab shut down after failed safety inspection; all research halted indefinitely

False dichotomy logical fallacy.

It has NOTHING to do with the Wuhan virus. What Fort Detrick did or did not do is irrelevant.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The same experts who are telling us to continue the shutdown for a year

(They don't exist)

They sure as hell do.

for a year told us that face masks didn't do any good for the general population.

(Never said by any expert, much less the unicorns bripat just invented out of thin air)

ROFL!

Surgeon General Urges the Public to Stop Buying Face Masks

More Americans Should Probably Wear Masks for Protection

This entire story about an Apocalyptic Pandemic sounds a lot like the Global Warming Panic.

The people are being asked, being required, to take dramatic action that will highly damage them economically to avert a catastrophe. And the experts keep changing the story, cooking the numbers and moving the goal posts to ensure compliance.

Never let a crisis go to waste. If you don't have a crisis make one.

 

[Contumacious]

Seriously dude?

Do you really want the bastards at Fort Detrick to continue weaponizing viruses because of your misunderstanding of what PATRIOTISM actually requires?!?!?!?!?

Your misplaced sense "patriotism" is impeding you from handling the truth?


Fort Detrick lab shut down after failed safety inspection; all research halted indefinitely

False dichotomy logical fallacy.

It has NOTHING to do with the Wuhan virus. What Fort Detrick did or did not do is irrelevant.

And you came to this conclusion HOW?

PROVIDE A LINK TO WHERE THE CDC , DR ANTHONY FAUCI or the president discuss what Fort Detrick and Yoshihiro Kawaoka were doing but found no connection .

Why did the Pentagon commission him to weaponize a virus for offensive biowarfare?

.We do know that Dr. [Yoshihiro] Kawaoka at the University of Wisconsin … resurrected the Spanish flu virus for the Pentagon, obviously for weapons purposes, and he specializes in mating the Spanish flu virus to all sorts of hideous biowarfare instrumentalities. And there was a record of him shipping his products to Winnipeg.


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[Fort Fun Indiana]

Lol, if it was real. The media would be camped out in

Kinda drifted off there. No dummy, the media would not be camped out in ICU units. See of you can squeeze that lump between your ears and figure out why that is.

 

[U2Edge]

New POLL: 72% of Americans choose saving lives over the health of the U.S. Economy.

Funny how the opinions of the great unwashed don't matter for crap any other time except when it supports a leftist agenda! Yeah, lets "save lives" (unproven that we are) so that they can live in misery through years of poverty and destruction!

Lockdown can wait: Sweden goes its own way

While most of Europe is firmly locked down in a bid to curb the spread of COVID-19, Sweden is taking a softer line, keeping primary schools, restaurants and bars open and even encouraging people to go outside for a nip of air. This stands in stark contrast to the urgent tone elsewhere and has...

news.yahoo.com

Sweden currently has the 12th highest death toll per capita from coronavirus on the planet.

Thanks! And they haven't destroyed their economy, jobs and people's life savings in accomplishing that!

There are 197 countries on the planet. All but 18 of them have confirmed coronavirus cases. SWEDEN is doing the 12th worst in the world in terms of combating coronavirus infection. That's not an accomplishment that is a DISASTER! Especially a disaster for a country that was ranked very high in standard of living and quality of life. Increased coronavirus infections does not lead to better quality of life. Your more likely to die in Sweden from coronavirus than nearly every other country in the world except for the small group of 11 that are worse than Sweden.

 

[lennypartiv]

Another phony poll where most of the respondents were liberals.

 

[U2Edge]

Well, then the United States would have ceased to have been a Super Power by 1960 by that logic.

Japan and Germany individually never had annual GDP as high as the United States in 1940 let alone 1945.

Why, did the infrastructure of the USA get destroyed in 1960? I missed that event.

Also, per capita GDP is what matters. Germany was a basket case under Hindenburg, but Hitler turned them around. Japan had Mitsubishi, 'nuff said.

GDP per capita only matters for quality of life of the average citizen. It does not determined NATIONAL POWER. That is determined by overall GDP regardless of population size.

The infrastructure in the United States did not get destroyed, but the European infrastructure was rebuilt. You claimed the United States only became a Super Power because European countries and others were destroyed in World War II. By that logic, once these countries had been rebuilt, the United States would cease to be a Super Power.

The fact, is, the United States became a Super Power on its own merit during World War II. It had nothing to do with the level of destruction in any other country on the planet.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Well, then the United States would have ceased to have been a Super Power by 1960 by that logic.

Japan and Germany individually never had annual GDP as high as the United States in 1940 let alone 1945.

Why, did the infrastructure of the USA get destroyed in 1960? I missed that event.

Also, per capita GDP is what matters. Germany was a basket case under Hindenburg, but Hitler turned them around. Japan had Mitsubishi, 'nuff said.

GDP per capita only matters for quality of life of the average citizen. It does not determined NATIONAL POWER. That is determined by overall GDP regardless of population size.

The infrastructure in the United States did not get destroyed, but the European infrastructure was rebuilt. You claimed the United States only became a Super Power because European countries and others were destroyed in World War II. By that logic, once these countries had been rebuilt, the United States would cease to be a Super Power.

The fact, is, the United States became a Super Power on its own merit during World War II. It had nothing to do with the level of destruction in any other country on the planet.

Are you saying that Imperial Japan was not a super power?

 

[U2Edge]

Do these people think letting the economy crash will have no negative impact or cost lives just curious if they consider that. It's rather sad that we have become such an either or society and that we now believe we can't try and accomplish both keeping people safe and saving the economy.

Yes, no focus on slowing the curve. Because as we've been advised by an Orange Turd, MILLIONS would be committing suicide!

When will we start working on the high number of the common flu deaths?
And this happens every year

There is a vaccine every year that people can take to prevent flu death. Sadly only 50% of the population gets the flu shot. If everyone got the flu shot, you could cut seasonal flu deaths by 90%.

The season flu only kills an average of 200 people a day and is easily preventable with the vaccine every year. Right now, we are approaching 2,000 deaths per day, ten times that of season flu with half of the deaths occurring in New York State and New Jersey. Thats why dead bodies are being stacked up outside hospitals in New York City as we discuss this.

 

[U2Edge]

Well, then the United States would have ceased to have been a Super Power by 1960 by that logic.

Japan and Germany individually never had annual GDP as high as the United States in 1940 let alone 1945.

Why, did the infrastructure of the USA get destroyed in 1960? I missed that event.

Also, per capita GDP is what matters. Germany was a basket case under Hindenburg, but Hitler turned them around. Japan had Mitsubishi, 'nuff said.

GDP per capita only matters for quality of life of the average citizen. It does not determined NATIONAL POWER. That is determined by overall GDP regardless of population size.

The infrastructure in the United States did not get destroyed, but the European infrastructure was rebuilt. You claimed the United States only became a Super Power because European countries and others were destroyed in World War II. By that logic, once these countries had been rebuilt, the United States would cease to be a Super Power.

The fact, is, the United States became a Super Power on its own merit during World War II. It had nothing to do with the level of destruction in any other country on the planet.

Are you saying that Imperial Japan was not a super power?

Certainly not in the way that the United States had become by 1945 and remained that way for the next 75 years.

 

[U2Edge]

When you shut down travel and borders to stop a pandemic, you shut them all, not just that which involves China. A Pathogen hitches a ride in a human and within hours could be on the other side of the world. So the threat is not just from China, its from anywhere in the planet outside the United States. But Trump only blocked China. Blocking travel from a single country in a pandemic does not work. The Pathogen does not recognize borders.

Oh, that would have gone over really well, especially with you Stalinists who demand the southern border have welcome mats.

China was the epicenter and source of the Wuhan virus. you may be petty and dishonest, hence won't admit it, but you know full well that Trump did the right thing.

Sure, but he needed to institute the same bans to the other 196 countries in the world besides China. If Trump had done that, we would have contained the spread and would have a situation similar to Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, or Singapore.

UNITED STATES:
Total Infections: 311,357
Total Deaths: 8,452

JAPAN:
Total Infections: 3,139
Total Deaths: 77

TAIWAN:
Total Infections: 355
Total Deaths: 5

SOUTH KOREA:
Total Infections: 10,156
Total Deaths: 177

SINGAPORE:
Total Infections: 1,189
Total Deaths: 6

Timing Comrade. In January, ONLY china has a problem.

The United States had its first confirmed case on January 21. There also other countries that had their first confirmed cases in January as well. ITS NEVER TOO EARLY TO ACT when preventing the spread of a pathogen. Early action leads to less time in lockdown and other restrictions. Kill and contain the pathogen early, so your not faced with the mess we have now.

 

[Uncensored2008]

There is a vaccine every year that people can take to prevent flu death. Sadly only 50% of the population gets the flu shot. If everyone got the flu shot, you could cut seasonal flu deaths by 90%.

The season flu only kills an average of 200 people a day and is easily preventable with the vaccine every year. Right now, we are approaching 2,000 deaths per day, ten times that of season flu with half of the deaths occurring in New York State and New Jersey. Thats why dead bodies are being stacked up outside hospitals in New York City as we discuss this.

Flu vaccine is a tricky thing and not a good comparison. The flu shot only protects from the 4 more prevalent strains out of China any given year. People give up on the flu shot because over a third of people who get a flu shot get the flu anyway.

The vaccine out of Pittsburgh university is specific to the Wuhan virus.

PittCoVacc coronavirus vaccine candidate effective in mice: University of Pittsburgh Medical Center

A Pittsburgh university experienced in fighting SARS and MERS said Thursday that a potential coronavirus vaccine has proven effective in mice.

www.washingtontimes.com

 

[U2Edge]

Do these people think letting the economy crash will have no negative impact or cost lives just curious if they consider that. It's rather sad that we have become such an either or society and that we now believe we can't try and accomplish both keeping people safe and saving the economy.

Yes, no focus on slowing the curve. Because as we've been advised by an Orange Turd, MILLIONS would be committing suicide!

So why hasn’t the curve been flattened in NY, where #PresidentCuomo is in charge?

Doesn't have a damn thing to do with politics. It has to do with incompetency at the top.

So where is the Democrat plan to deal with it? Two months ago they were telling us President Trump was the greatest threat to national security, not a virus spreading through Asia.

I think they have been proven right given Trump's failure to stop or contain the virus in the United States.

Just Trump eh? No criticism for Pelosi handing out impeachment pens when this thing was growing and the ONLY Person doing anything in this country was Trump?

Trump should have been removed from office on February 5th during the Senate Trial.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Well, then the United States would have ceased to have been a Super Power by 1960 by that logic.

Japan and Germany individually never had annual GDP as high as the United States in 1940 let alone 1945.

Why, did the infrastructure of the USA get destroyed in 1960? I missed that event.

Also, per capita GDP is what matters. Germany was a basket case under Hindenburg, but Hitler turned them around. Japan had Mitsubishi, 'nuff said.

GDP per capita only matters for quality of life of the average citizen. It does not determined NATIONAL POWER. That is determined by overall GDP regardless of population size.

The infrastructure in the United States did not get destroyed, but the European infrastructure was rebuilt. You claimed the United States only became a Super Power because European countries and others were destroyed in World War II. By that logic, once these countries had been rebuilt, the United States would cease to be a Super Power.

The fact, is, the United States became a Super Power on its own merit during World War II. It had nothing to do with the level of destruction in any other country on the planet.

Are you saying that Imperial Japan was not a super power?

Certainly not in the way that the United States had become by 1945 and remained that way for the next 75 years.

Again, having EVERY other manufacturing power destroyed puts you in a unique position. By 1970 we had slipped. Reagan brought us back, but we had declined during the 60's and 70's.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Do these people think letting the economy crash will have no negative impact or cost lives just curious if they consider that. It's rather sad that we have become such an either or society and that we now believe we can't try and accomplish both keeping people safe and saving the economy.

Yes, no focus on slowing the curve. Because as we've been advised by an Orange Turd, MILLIONS would be committing suicide!

So why hasn’t the curve been flattened in NY, where #PresidentCuomo is in charge?

Doesn't have a damn thing to do with politics. It has to do with incompetency at the top.

So where is the Democrat plan to deal with it? Two months ago they were telling us President Trump was the greatest threat to national security, not a virus spreading through Asia.

I think they have been proven right given Trump's failure to stop or contain the virus in the United States.

Just Trump eh? No criticism for Pelosi handing out impeachment pens when this thing was growing and the ONLY Person doing anything in this country was Trump?

Trump should have been removed from office on February 5th during the Senate Trial.

Because reasons.

Pelosi, Nadler, and Schitt should be shot for treason.

 

[U2Edge]

Do these people think letting the economy crash will have no negative impact or cost lives just curious if they consider that. It's rather sad that we have become such an either or society and that we now believe we can't try and accomplish both keeping people safe and saving the economy.

Yes, no focus on slowing the curve. Because as we've been advised by an Orange Turd, MILLIONS would be committing suicide!

So why hasn’t the curve been flattened in NY, where #PresidentCuomo is in charge?

Doesn't have a damn thing to do with politics. It has to do with incompetency at the top.

So where is the Democrat plan to deal with it? Two months ago they were telling us President Trump was the greatest threat to national security, not a virus spreading through Asia.

I think they have been proven right given Trump's failure to stop or contain the virus in the United States.

Just Trump eh? No criticism for Pelosi handing out impeachment pens when this thing was growing and the ONLY Person doing anything in this country was Trump?

Trump should have been removed from office on February 5th during the Senate Trial.

Because reasons.

Pelosi, Nadler, and Schitt should be shot for treason.

The only one that committed treason was Trump by withholding aid from Ukraine in order to dig up political dirt on BIDEN. You don't abandon and blackmail allies under attack by Russia in order to enhance your own personal political position. That's an abuse of power and Trump should have been removed for it.

 

[U2Edge]

Well, then the United States would have ceased to have been a Super Power by 1960 by that logic.

Japan and Germany individually never had annual GDP as high as the United States in 1940 let alone 1945.

Why, did the infrastructure of the USA get destroyed in 1960? I missed that event.

Also, per capita GDP is what matters. Germany was a basket case under Hindenburg, but Hitler turned them around. Japan had Mitsubishi, 'nuff said.

GDP per capita only matters for quality of life of the average citizen. It does not determined NATIONAL POWER. That is determined by overall GDP regardless of population size.

The infrastructure in the United States did not get destroyed, but the European infrastructure was rebuilt. You claimed the United States only became a Super Power because European countries and others were destroyed in World War II. By that logic, once these countries had been rebuilt, the United States would cease to be a Super Power.

The fact, is, the United States became a Super Power on its own merit during World War II. It had nothing to do with the level of destruction in any other country on the planet.

Are you saying that Imperial Japan was not a super power?

Certainly not in the way that the United States had become by 1945 and remained that way for the next 75 years.

Again, having EVERY other manufacturing power destroyed puts you in a unique position. By 1970 we had slipped. Reagan brought us back, but we had declined during the 60's and 70's.

The destruction in Japan does not build tanks in Detroit. That's not how GDP works.

 

[U2Edge]

There is a vaccine every year that people can take to prevent flu death. Sadly only 50% of the population gets the flu shot. If everyone got the flu shot, you could cut seasonal flu deaths by 90%.

The season flu only kills an average of 200 people a day and is easily preventable with the vaccine every year. Right now, we are approaching 2,000 deaths per day, ten times that of season flu with half of the deaths occurring in New York State and New Jersey. Thats why dead bodies are being stacked up outside hospitals in New York City as we discuss this.

Flu vaccine is a tricky thing and not a good comparison. The flu shot only protects from the 4 more prevalent strains out of China any given year. People give up on the flu shot because over a third of people who get a flu shot get the flue anyway.

The vaccine out of Pittsburgh university is specific to the Wuhan virus.

PittCoVacc coronavirus vaccine candidate effective in mice: University of Pittsburgh Medical Center

A Pittsburgh university experienced in fighting SARS and MERS said Thursday that a potential coronavirus vaccine has proven effective in mice.

www.washingtontimes.com

Complete rubbish. Were not talking about whether you get the flu, were talking about whether you die from it. The Flu vaccine prevents you from dying from it, but only 50% of people get the flu shot. Plus, if you do get the flu, you will have a milder case of it if you had the flu shot.