New Minibus Spending Bill Has $5 Billion Earmarked for Refugee Welfare Programs

[Unkotare]

America should be closed. ....

It should not, it is not.

 

[kyzr]

It should not, it is not.

If it isn't closed then we need better vetting and temporary visas.

 

[Unkotare]

If it isn't closed then we need better vetting and temporary visas.

You're getting closer.

 

[fncceo]

are you really going to pass this legislation with these additional taxpayer funds for immigrants?

How do you expect politicians from either party to become multi-millionaires on $175,000 salary if we don’t funnel taxpayer dollars into schemes from which they can steal?

Have a HEART!

 

[Oddball]

LOL MAGA is so full of shit.

These aren't Trumpster coongressweasels continuing the idiotic spending....This is exactly the scenario the late great Harry Browne laid out back in '96.

The republican party at large is showing exactly who they are (controlled opposition prop players) and what they stand for (nothing).

Now, the Cheeto Jesus' $1.5 trillion Pentagon budget proposal, THERE'S a serious RINO assfuck.

 

[Oddball]

If it's for vetted refugees and not illegal aliens, that's in keeping with our standard practices.

The 15 million border crashers that flooded in under Pedo Peter nearly all came in under "refugee" status.

There's nothing "standard practices" about any of that.

 

[Unkotare]

The 15 million border crashers that flooded in under Pedo Peter nearly all came in under "refugee" status.
...

Nope.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

According to an X statement from Senator Rand Paul (R-KY), the new minibus spending bill they will be voting on in Congress contains $5 Billion in welfare programs for refugees. Here is your moment of truth, Republicans. After all of the chaos you raised surrounding the Somali daycare fraud in Minnesota, are you really going to pass this legislation with these additional taxpayer funds for immigrants? We know how this is going to end. This legislation will sail through Congress and Trump will sign it. Even if Paul manages to get an amendment to strike it, it will fail, guaranteed.

What are the programs? Is it the one they can get $2000 to self deport?

 

[Dekster]

What are the programs? Is it the one they can get $2000 to self deport?

It is funding for HHS's Administration of Children and Families which overseas dozens of areas like foster care, headstart, TANK payments, child support enforcement, homelessness, etc, as it pertains to americans and foreigners alike.

 

[Mick2]

It is funding for HHS's Administration of Children and Families which overseas dozens of areas like foster care, headstart, TANK payments, child support enforcement, homelessness, etc, as it pertains to americans and foreigners alike.

And the Somalis love themselves every penny of it!

 

[martybegan]

I don't know other than we can press our representatives to start addressing single item legislation.
Taking the National Treasury as a bottomless pit off the table with a Balanced Budget Amendment might work some, but I doubt that will ever be taken seriously.

More drastically, I think an Amendment requiring a Super Majority vote in Congress, would go a long way towards shattering the hold the establishment has over Congress, It might also actually provide us with more party options and more responsible legislation, as it would slow legislation down and force things to be removed for support, instead getting enough people to agree with adding more.

But again, I don't think that is reasonable because the establishment won't kill themselves.
One thing is going to have to give though before we ever get anywhere new and more productive or responsible.

Personally, I am not looking for a third-party option, because that would just be a losing party that damages the other two, with possibly worse consequences. There needs to be about four or five parties, and eight would be better, building coalitions, and giving the People more say so in what we actually get in legislation.

That would prevent anything from happening in congress.

A line Item veto amendment would fix some things, but not everything.

The problem with a 3rd party in our system is that unless it replaces one of the two main parties, it just lets the party you like the least win more.

 

[martybegan]

why do you think a parliamentary system is the option??

just ban political action groups from fed politics and see what happens,,
thats all the partys are,,

I'm not saying it is, I'm just saying it's the other option.

Nope. Restriction on free speech and right to assemble.

 

[Bitterhook]

That would prevent anything from happening in congress.

A line Item veto amendment would fix some things, but not everything.

The problem with a 3rd party in our system is that unless it replaces one of the two main parties, it just lets the party you like the least win more.

That's true, although I don't know if it would prevent everything from happening as much as simply change the ways things are done.

If you ask me if I would rather have fast legislation, or more responsible legislation that takes longer to pass, I will choose the latter because we are going to be stuck with it forever. If you wonder why people ignore existing legislation, and pretend it doesn't exist, that is because they are spoiled into thinking that desires represent responsible legislation, and immediate gratification is more important than properly calculated and limited measures.

The shit we have in legislation is precisely the product of burying crap in the details, overreaching the power of the people in the states, and demanding results from a system that is only getting worse as far as responsible governance is concerned.

If you ask me whether I want to eat this pile of crap or that pile of crap, because it all comes down to one or the other and the people are forced to choose one or the other, then I don't really care if they have a hard time providing us with more than crap. I don't have a problem with them not hiding $5 billion in a bill. How about they do their jobs, be the statesmen they should be, and stop making excuses.

If we cannot get what we need from the Beltway, then don't ******* ask them and start handling what you desire in your states and communities, where the People have more control over the legislation, the governance they are required to deal with, and their everyday lives.

As far as parties are concerned, technically we already have 50 and they are called states, and our federal government is a Republic representing the Union of those states.

 

[Oddball]

Nope.

Yup....It's willful ignorance to claim otherwise.

 

[Bitterhook]

Yup....It's willful ignorance to claim otherwise.

The fact they justify and hide their efforts as obligations under the United Nations Refugee Convention of 1951 explains exactly who is in control of the mess we are suffering, and how weak nations get strong nations to destroy themselves from within, voluntarily and for the sake of humanity.

 

[YoursTruly]

According to an X statement from Senator Rand Paul (R-KY), the new minibus spending bill they will be voting on in Congress contains $5 Billion in welfare programs for refugees. Here is your moment of truth, Republicans. After all of the chaos you raised surrounding the Somali daycare fraud in Minnesota, are you really going to pass this legislation with these additional taxpayer funds for immigrants? We know how this is going to end. This legislation will sail through Congress and Trump will sign it. Even if Paul manages to get an amendment to strike it, it will fail, guaranteed.

RINO's talk a good talk. But When you get right down to it, they're not any better than the democrats.
When it comes to spending money, they're even worse. (by a tiny bit)

 

[Unkotare]

Yup......

Nope. Words have meanings. An asylum seeker is not a refugee.

 

[Oddball]

Nope. Words have meanings. An asylum seeker is not a refugee.

Difference in legal semantics, not in kind...They're still primarily parasites who are gaming the system.

 

[Mac-7]

According to an X statement from Senator Rand Paul (R-KY), the new minibus spending bill they will be voting on in Congress contains $5 Billion in welfare programs for refugees. Here is your moment of truth, Republicans. After all of the chaos you raised surrounding the Somali daycare fraud in Minnesota, are you really going to pass this legislation with these additional taxpayer funds for immigrants? We know how this is going to end. This legislation will sail through Congress and Trump will sign it. Even if Paul manages to get an amendment to strike it, it will fail, guaranteed.

Thanks for the info

Of course I oppose funding for migrants

 

[Unkotare]

Difference in legal semantics, ...

Just admit you were wrong and move on.