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Brain scans most certainly do and have and will in the future,,keep telling yourself false hoods is kinda crazy.One can hope,I just go with the common sense angle,it sure isn't a Labrador in there,left alone always comes out a person,every single time.Its really that simpleScience will prove abortion is murder, and with that I bet liberals will hate science.Well good for you,you being the only researcher and all.Know they don't ---------ask me------I have done research in
evoked potentials--------
Brain scan clearly show emotions ,pain reaction to out side stimulus,this has been done years ago nothing new.Even in unborn human babies,shocking as that my be.
wrong again imaging does not show emotions----
including functional PET-----there are correlations----that's it---
Kinda like global warming?No they researched and took a guess.They researched it and figured out they have emotions and have feelings. Ultrasounds are unbelievable now. So proving a fetus is a living being. Is the first step!this is a dumb thread. There is no neurological test for
"experience" ------the only way to know has a person
"feels" is by asking "how do you feel"? One can infer
but not actually determine "experience" Withdrawal
is a reflex. Electric potentials thru nerve fibers does not
prove conscious perception ------even a facial expression
consistent with "pain" ---does not prove conscious perception..
I would be very surprised if the electrical potentials that
happen ---across the nerve fibers leading from the finger-
tip to the spinal cord and up to the brain did NOT happen
in the fetus------SO??? that does not prove the fetus
has consciousness. Even a later EVOKED potential
across the brain does not prove consciousness.
For the record-----amebas exhibit withdrawal on
"touch"
Keep telling yourself that,a hundred times a day,it will never be true.Brain scans most certainly do and have and will in the future,,keep telling yourself false hoods is kinda crazy.One can hope,I just go with the common sense angle,it sure isn't a Labrador in there,left alone always comes out a person,every single time.Its really that simpleScience will prove abortion is murder, and with that I bet liberals will hate science.Well good for you,you being the only researcher and all.
Brain scan clearly show emotions ,pain reaction to out side stimulus,this has been done years ago nothing new.Even in unborn human babies,shocking as that my be.
wrong again imaging does not show emotions----
including functional PET-----there are correlations----that's it---
There are many kinds of brain scans. You are probably referring to PET scanning or FUNCTIONAL MRI------
None "show emotions"--------are you considering doing PET
scans on the brains of 10 week fetuses?-----good luck-----
I wouldn't consider risking it
Keep telling yourself that,a hundred times a day,it will never be true.Brain scans most certainly do and have and will in the future,,keep telling yourself false hoods is kinda crazy.One can hope,I just go with the common sense angle,it sure isn't a Labrador in there,left alone always comes out a person,every single time.Its really that simpleScience will prove abortion is murder, and with that I bet liberals will hate science.
wrong again imaging does not show emotions----
including functional PET-----there are correlations----that's it---
There are many kinds of brain scans. You are probably referring to PET scanning or FUNCTIONAL MRI------
None "show emotions"--------are you considering doing PET
scans on the brains of 10 week fetuses?-----good luck-----
I wouldn't consider risking it
If you expect any of the progressive death peddlers to care that a child feels pain in utero, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.....
If you expect any of the progressive death peddlers to care that a child feels pain in utero, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.....
Give them a chance. These ideas are just unfamiliar to them.
If you expect any of the progressive death peddlers to care that a child feels pain in utero, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.....
Give them a chance. These ideas are just unfamiliar to them.
Nonsense. They have never given two craps about the babies they slaughter.
Well with excuses like that who needs a reason:
Israel’s abortion law now among world’s most liberal
Despite its conservative leanings, government approves free pregnancy termination for nearly all women, and it barely causes a ripple
By Debra KaminJanuary 6, 2014, 4:08 am
Israel, a nation with a forceful religious lobby and a conservative prime minister, is poised to offer its female citizens some of the most liberal abortion coverage in the world.
The nation’s Health Ministry commission, led by Dr. Yonatan Halevy, last week announced its state-subsidized “health basket,” the package of medications and services that all Israeli citizens are entitled to under the nation’s health care system. It was approved by the cabinet on Sunday. The health basket is analyzed and amended on an annual basis, and among the many additional treatments to be offered to Israelis in 2014 are free-of-charge abortions for women ages 20-33.
Outside of those regulations, women can apply for abortions for reasons ranging from an emotional or mental threat caused by the pregnancy or for not being married to the baby’s father. All women who seek to end a pregnancy must appear before a three-member committee to state their case, but 98 percent of requests are approved. Women under the age of 20 or over the age of 40 were also previously eligible for subsidized abortions, regardless of the reason.
With the newly amended health care package, however, funding will now be available for more than 6,000 additional women seeking to terminate their pregnancies, at the cost at some NIS 16 million ($4.6 million). No medical reason for the abortion is required.
“We want large families in Israel. We definitely encourage birth,” he says. “But when pregnancy occurs and it is undesired or inadvertent, I think we should supply the means to end the pregnancy properly.”
Read more: Israel's abortion law now among world's most liberal | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-abortion-law-now-among-worlds-most-liberal/#ixzz3RI6kulFW
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Sounds rather strick to me Irosie.
if your "strick" means "strict" I never said it was strict---
I said that the woman and doctor must provide a REASON.
The reason can be "I cannot bear another child because...."
and she can cite a reason why doing so would cause her
emotional distress or some problem that would harm
her SENSE of well being. It need not be an actual threat
to her life-----just a threat to her well being. What she
cannot do is use abortion as a convenient form of birth
control. It is a very liberal policy You got a problem
with that? Since unlike you I know the situation in its
practical terms------what comes out of it is that women
are very much discouraged using abortion as birth
control------their docs insist that they use conventional
methods of birth control-----they favor IUD's
Maybe now they are doing depoprovera-----I will try
to find out. The system works fine---especially for the
WELL BENG of the women. The argument of
"well-being" for the pregnant woman overcomes even
the religious objection. ------usually.
In the system in the USA----doctors doing abortions
charge lots-------and have no idea what the woman
has done before-------and has no responsibility to know
if he prefers not to This policy leads to problems for
careless and naïve women-----the lack of availability
for poor unmarried girls is a danger to them----and
USING THE FAMILY insurance policy is a problem for
married women. It is true that Israel is a very soft touch
for pregnant women-------you object?
My opinion is life begins at inception, but I am not going to push my beliefs on others. The big problem is if these women are getting pregnant that means they are not using condoms (I realize some condoms can get a hole in and some sperm may get free) so that opens them up to VD's, HIV and even cervical Ca, not only an unwanted pregnancy. I am not for the return of backstreet abortions by any means, and yes pretty much anyone here can get an abortion. They, the man and woman should have to pay for it, then they won't mind dishing out the few bucks next time for condoms. I have no idea what an abortion costs. Do you?
your opinion is that "life begins at inception" -----is jibberish---maybe you meant to say that life begins at
CONCEPTION---------before you express opinions in English---try to learn English. Is the phrase "dishing out a few bucks" considered a reasonable manner of expression in
the dung heap which is your lair? I have no idea what
an abortion costs------is the cost of an abortion an issue for
you? I don't even know what condoms cost-----do you?
Did you once claim to work in health care? ------you need not
answer if you do not wish to. ----If you do-----I am horrified
Well with excuses like that who needs a reason:
Israel’s abortion law now among world’s most liberal
Despite its conservative leanings, government approves free pregnancy termination for nearly all women, and it barely causes a ripple
By Debra KaminJanuary 6, 2014, 4:08 am
Israel, a nation with a forceful religious lobby and a conservative prime minister, is poised to offer its female citizens some of the most liberal abortion coverage in the world.
The nation’s Health Ministry commission, led by Dr. Yonatan Halevy, last week announced its state-subsidized “health basket,” the package of medications and services that all Israeli citizens are entitled to under the nation’s health care system. It was approved by the cabinet on Sunday. The health basket is analyzed and amended on an annual basis, and among the many additional treatments to be offered to Israelis in 2014 are free-of-charge abortions for women ages 20-33.
Outside of those regulations, women can apply for abortions for reasons ranging from an emotional or mental threat caused by the pregnancy or for not being married to the baby’s father. All women who seek to end a pregnancy must appear before a three-member committee to state their case, but 98 percent of requests are approved. Women under the age of 20 or over the age of 40 were also previously eligible for subsidized abortions, regardless of the reason.
With the newly amended health care package, however, funding will now be available for more than 6,000 additional women seeking to terminate their pregnancies, at the cost at some NIS 16 million ($4.6 million). No medical reason for the abortion is required.
“We want large families in Israel. We definitely encourage birth,” he says. “But when pregnancy occurs and it is undesired or inadvertent, I think we should supply the means to end the pregnancy properly.”
Read more: Israel's abortion law now among world's most liberal | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-abortion-law-now-among-worlds-most-liberal/#ixzz3RI6kulFW
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Sounds rather strick to me Irosie.
if your "strick" means "strict" I never said it was strict---
I said that the woman and doctor must provide a REASON.
The reason can be "I cannot bear another child because...."
and she can cite a reason why doing so would cause her
emotional distress or some problem that would harm
her SENSE of well being. It need not be an actual threat
to her life-----just a threat to her well being. What she
cannot do is use abortion as a convenient form of birth
control. It is a very liberal policy You got a problem
with that? Since unlike you I know the situation in its
practical terms------what comes out of it is that women
are very much discouraged using abortion as birth
control------their docs insist that they use conventional
methods of birth control-----they favor IUD's
Maybe now they are doing depoprovera-----I will try
to find out. The system works fine---especially for the
WELL BENG of the women. The argument of
"well-being" for the pregnant woman overcomes even
the religious objection. ------usually.
In the system in the USA----doctors doing abortions
charge lots-------and have no idea what the woman
has done before-------and has no responsibility to know
if he prefers not to This policy leads to problems for
careless and naïve women-----the lack of availability
for poor unmarried girls is a danger to them----and
USING THE FAMILY insurance policy is a problem for
married women. It is true that Israel is a very soft touch
for pregnant women-------you object?
My opinion is life begins at inception, but I am not going to push my beliefs on others. The big problem is if these women are getting pregnant that means they are not using condoms (I realize some condoms can get a hole in and some sperm may get free) so that opens them up to VD's, HIV and even cervical Ca, not only an unwanted pregnancy. I am not for the return of backstreet abortions by any means, and yes pretty much anyone here can get an abortion. They, the man and woman should have to pay for it, then they won't mind dishing out the few bucks next time for condoms. I have no idea what an abortion costs. Do you?
your opinion is that "life begins at inception" -----is jibberish---maybe you meant to say that life begins at
CONCEPTION---------before you express opinions in English---try to learn English. Is the phrase "dishing out a few bucks" considered a reasonable manner of expression in
the dung heap which is your lair? I have no idea what
an abortion costs------is the cost of an abortion an issue for
you? I don't even know what condoms cost-----do you?
Did you once claim to work in health care? ------you need not
answer if you do not wish to. ----If you do-----I am horrified
If you expect any of the progressive death peddlers to care that a child feels pain in utero, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.....
Give them a chance. These ideas are just unfamiliar to them.
Nonsense. They have never given two craps about the babies they slaughter.
Well with excuses like that who needs a reason:
Israel’s abortion law now among world’s most liberal
Despite its conservative leanings, government approves free pregnancy termination for nearly all women, and it barely causes a ripple
By Debra KaminJanuary 6, 2014, 4:08 am
Israel, a nation with a forceful religious lobby and a conservative prime minister, is poised to offer its female citizens some of the most liberal abortion coverage in the world.
The nation’s Health Ministry commission, led by Dr. Yonatan Halevy, last week announced its state-subsidized “health basket,” the package of medications and services that all Israeli citizens are entitled to under the nation’s health care system. It was approved by the cabinet on Sunday. The health basket is analyzed and amended on an annual basis, and among the many additional treatments to be offered to Israelis in 2014 are free-of-charge abortions for women ages 20-33.
Outside of those regulations, women can apply for abortions for reasons ranging from an emotional or mental threat caused by the pregnancy or for not being married to the baby’s father. All women who seek to end a pregnancy must appear before a three-member committee to state their case, but 98 percent of requests are approved. Women under the age of 20 or over the age of 40 were also previously eligible for subsidized abortions, regardless of the reason.
With the newly amended health care package, however, funding will now be available for more than 6,000 additional women seeking to terminate their pregnancies, at the cost at some NIS 16 million ($4.6 million). No medical reason for the abortion is required.
“We want large families in Israel. We definitely encourage birth,” he says. “But when pregnancy occurs and it is undesired or inadvertent, I think we should supply the means to end the pregnancy properly.”
Read more: Israel's abortion law now among world's most liberal | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-abortion-law-now-among-worlds-most-liberal/#ixzz3RI6kulFW
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Sounds rather strick to me Irosie.
if your "strick" means "strict" I never said it was strict---
I said that the woman and doctor must provide a REASON.
The reason can be "I cannot bear another child because...."
and she can cite a reason why doing so would cause her
emotional distress or some problem that would harm
her SENSE of well being. It need not be an actual threat
to her life-----just a threat to her well being. What she
cannot do is use abortion as a convenient form of birth
control. It is a very liberal policy You got a problem
with that? Since unlike you I know the situation in its
practical terms------what comes out of it is that women
are very much discouraged using abortion as birth
control------their docs insist that they use conventional
methods of birth control-----they favor IUD's
Maybe now they are doing depoprovera-----I will try
to find out. The system works fine---especially for the
WELL BENG of the women. The argument of
"well-being" for the pregnant woman overcomes even
the religious objection. ------usually.
In the system in the USA----doctors doing abortions
charge lots-------and have no idea what the woman
has done before-------and has no responsibility to know
if he prefers not to This policy leads to problems for
careless and naïve women-----the lack of availability
for poor unmarried girls is a danger to them----and
USING THE FAMILY insurance policy is a problem for
married women. It is true that Israel is a very soft touch
for pregnant women-------you object?
My opinion is life begins at inception, but I am not going to push my beliefs on others. The big problem is if these women are getting pregnant that means they are not using condoms (I realize some condoms can get a hole in and some sperm may get free) so that opens them up to VD's, HIV and even cervical Ca, not only an unwanted pregnancy. I am not for the return of backstreet abortions by any means, and yes pretty much anyone here can get an abortion. They, the man and woman should have to pay for it, then they won't mind dishing out the few bucks next time for condoms. I have no idea what an abortion costs. Do you?
your opinion is that "life begins at inception" -----is jibberish---maybe you meant to say that life begins at
CONCEPTION---------before you express opinions in English---try to learn English. Is the phrase "dishing out a few bucks" considered a reasonable manner of expression in
the dung heap which is your lair? I have no idea what
an abortion costs------is the cost of an abortion an issue for
you? I don't even know what condoms cost-----do you?
Did you once claim to work in health care? ------you need not
answer if you do not wish to. ----If you do-----I am horrifiedWell with excuses like that who needs a reason:
Israel’s abortion law now among world’s most liberal
Despite its conservative leanings, government approves free pregnancy termination for nearly all women, and it barely causes a ripple
By Debra KaminJanuary 6, 2014, 4:08 am
Israel, a nation with a forceful religious lobby and a conservative prime minister, is poised to offer its female citizens some of the most liberal abortion coverage in the world.
The nation’s Health Ministry commission, led by Dr. Yonatan Halevy, last week announced its state-subsidized “health basket,” the package of medications and services that all Israeli citizens are entitled to under the nation’s health care system. It was approved by the cabinet on Sunday. The health basket is analyzed and amended on an annual basis, and among the many additional treatments to be offered to Israelis in 2014 are free-of-charge abortions for women ages 20-33.
Outside of those regulations, women can apply for abortions for reasons ranging from an emotional or mental threat caused by the pregnancy or for not being married to the baby’s father. All women who seek to end a pregnancy must appear before a three-member committee to state their case, but 98 percent of requests are approved. Women under the age of 20 or over the age of 40 were also previously eligible for subsidized abortions, regardless of the reason.
With the newly amended health care package, however, funding will now be available for more than 6,000 additional women seeking to terminate their pregnancies, at the cost at some NIS 16 million ($4.6 million). No medical reason for the abortion is required.
“We want large families in Israel. We definitely encourage birth,” he says. “But when pregnancy occurs and it is undesired or inadvertent, I think we should supply the means to end the pregnancy properly.”
Read more: Israel's abortion law now among world's most liberal | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-abortion-law-now-among-worlds-most-liberal/#ixzz3RI6kulFW
Follow us: @timesofisrael on Twitter | timesofisrael on Facebook
Sounds rather strick to me Irosie.
if your "strick" means "strict" I never said it was strict---
I said that the woman and doctor must provide a REASON.
The reason can be "I cannot bear another child because...."
and she can cite a reason why doing so would cause her
emotional distress or some problem that would harm
her SENSE of well being. It need not be an actual threat
to her life-----just a threat to her well being. What she
cannot do is use abortion as a convenient form of birth
control. It is a very liberal policy You got a problem
with that? Since unlike you I know the situation in its
practical terms------what comes out of it is that women
are very much discouraged using abortion as birth
control------their docs insist that they use conventional
methods of birth control-----they favor IUD's
Maybe now they are doing depoprovera-----I will try
to find out. The system works fine---especially for the
WELL BENG of the women. The argument of
"well-being" for the pregnant woman overcomes even
the religious objection. ------usually.
In the system in the USA----doctors doing abortions
charge lots-------and have no idea what the woman
has done before-------and has no responsibility to know
if he prefers not to This policy leads to problems for
careless and naïve women-----the lack of availability
for poor unmarried girls is a danger to them----and
USING THE FAMILY insurance policy is a problem for
married women. It is true that Israel is a very soft touch
for pregnant women-------you object?
My opinion is life begins at inception, but I am not going to push my beliefs on others. The big problem is if these women are getting pregnant that means they are not using condoms (I realize some condoms can get a hole in and some sperm may get free) so that opens them up to VD's, HIV and even cervical Ca, not only an unwanted pregnancy. I am not for the return of backstreet abortions by any means, and yes pretty much anyone here can get an abortion. They, the man and woman should have to pay for it, then they won't mind dishing out the few bucks next time for condoms. I have no idea what an abortion costs. Do you?
your opinion is that "life begins at inception" -----is jibberish---maybe you meant to say that life begins at
CONCEPTION---------before you express opinions in English---try to learn English. Is the phrase "dishing out a few bucks" considered a reasonable manner of expression in
the dung heap which is your lair? I have no idea what
an abortion costs------is the cost of an abortion an issue for
you? I don't even know what condoms cost-----do you?
Did you once claim to work in health care? ------you need not
answer if you do not wish to. ----If you do-----I am horrified
No I meant inception: inception - definition of inception by The Free Dictionary
I have not worked where abortions are given and never had a need to know how much they are, and I have no idea how much condoms are since we never used one, so yes, if they want an abortion they should pay for it, even if it means selling their car, no government funded abortions.
Well with excuses like that who needs a reason:
Israel’s abortion law now among world’s most liberal
Despite its conservative leanings, government approves free pregnancy termination for nearly all women, and it barely causes a ripple
By Debra KaminJanuary 6, 2014, 4:08 am
Israel, a nation with a forceful religious lobby and a conservative prime minister, is poised to offer its female citizens some of the most liberal abortion coverage in the world.
The nation’s Health Ministry commission, led by Dr. Yonatan Halevy, last week announced its state-subsidized “health basket,” the package of medications and services that all Israeli citizens are entitled to under the nation’s health care system. It was approved by the cabinet on Sunday. The health basket is analyzed and amended on an annual basis, and among the many additional treatments to be offered to Israelis in 2014 are free-of-charge abortions for women ages 20-33.
Outside of those regulations, women can apply for abortions for reasons ranging from an emotional or mental threat caused by the pregnancy or for not being married to the baby’s father. All women who seek to end a pregnancy must appear before a three-member committee to state their case, but 98 percent of requests are approved. Women under the age of 20 or over the age of 40 were also previously eligible for subsidized abortions, regardless of the reason.
With the newly amended health care package, however, funding will now be available for more than 6,000 additional women seeking to terminate their pregnancies, at the cost at some NIS 16 million ($4.6 million). No medical reason for the abortion is required.
“We want large families in Israel. We definitely encourage birth,” he says. “But when pregnancy occurs and it is undesired or inadvertent, I think we should supply the means to end the pregnancy properly.”
Read more: Israel's abortion law now among world's most liberal | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-abortion-law-now-among-worlds-most-liberal/#ixzz3RI6kulFW
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Sounds rather strick to me Irosie.
if your "strick" means "strict" I never said it was strict---
I said that the woman and doctor must provide a REASON.
The reason can be "I cannot bear another child because...."
and she can cite a reason why doing so would cause her
emotional distress or some problem that would harm
her SENSE of well being. It need not be an actual threat
to her life-----just a threat to her well being. What she
cannot do is use abortion as a convenient form of birth
control. It is a very liberal policy You got a problem
with that? Since unlike you I know the situation in its
practical terms------what comes out of it is that women
are very much discouraged using abortion as birth
control------their docs insist that they use conventional
methods of birth control-----they favor IUD's
Maybe now they are doing depoprovera-----I will try
to find out. The system works fine---especially for the
WELL BENG of the women. The argument of
"well-being" for the pregnant woman overcomes even
the religious objection. ------usually.
In the system in the USA----doctors doing abortions
charge lots-------and have no idea what the woman
has done before-------and has no responsibility to know
if he prefers not to This policy leads to problems for
careless and naïve women-----the lack of availability
for poor unmarried girls is a danger to them----and
USING THE FAMILY insurance policy is a problem for
married women. It is true that Israel is a very soft touch
for pregnant women-------you object?
My opinion is life begins at inception, but I am not going to push my beliefs on others. The big problem is if these women are getting pregnant that means they are not using condoms (I realize some condoms can get a hole in and some sperm may get free) so that opens them up to VD's, HIV and even cervical Ca, not only an unwanted pregnancy. I am not for the return of backstreet abortions by any means, and yes pretty much anyone here can get an abortion. They, the man and woman should have to pay for it, then they won't mind dishing out the few bucks next time for condoms. I have no idea what an abortion costs. Do you?
your opinion is that "life begins at inception" -----is jibberish---maybe you meant to say that life begins at
CONCEPTION---------before you express opinions in English---try to learn English. Is the phrase "dishing out a few bucks" considered a reasonable manner of expression in
the dung heap which is your lair? I have no idea what
an abortion costs------is the cost of an abortion an issue for
you? I don't even know what condoms cost-----do you?
Did you once claim to work in health care? ------you need not
answer if you do not wish to. ----If you do-----I am horrifiedWell with excuses like that who needs a reason:
Israel’s abortion law now among world’s most liberal
Despite its conservative leanings, government approves free pregnancy termination for nearly all women, and it barely causes a ripple
By Debra KaminJanuary 6, 2014, 4:08 am
Israel, a nation with a forceful religious lobby and a conservative prime minister, is poised to offer its female citizens some of the most liberal abortion coverage in the world.
The nation’s Health Ministry commission, led by Dr. Yonatan Halevy, last week announced its state-subsidized “health basket,” the package of medications and services that all Israeli citizens are entitled to under the nation’s health care system. It was approved by the cabinet on Sunday. The health basket is analyzed and amended on an annual basis, and among the many additional treatments to be offered to Israelis in 2014 are free-of-charge abortions for women ages 20-33.
Outside of those regulations, women can apply for abortions for reasons ranging from an emotional or mental threat caused by the pregnancy or for not being married to the baby’s father. All women who seek to end a pregnancy must appear before a three-member committee to state their case, but 98 percent of requests are approved. Women under the age of 20 or over the age of 40 were also previously eligible for subsidized abortions, regardless of the reason.
With the newly amended health care package, however, funding will now be available for more than 6,000 additional women seeking to terminate their pregnancies, at the cost at some NIS 16 million ($4.6 million). No medical reason for the abortion is required.
“We want large families in Israel. We definitely encourage birth,” he says. “But when pregnancy occurs and it is undesired or inadvertent, I think we should supply the means to end the pregnancy properly.”
Read more: Israel's abortion law now among world's most liberal | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-abortion-law-now-among-worlds-most-liberal/#ixzz3RI6kulFW
Follow us: @timesofisrael on Twitter | timesofisrael on Facebook
Sounds rather strick to me Irosie.
if your "strick" means "strict" I never said it was strict---
I said that the woman and doctor must provide a REASON.
The reason can be "I cannot bear another child because...."
and she can cite a reason why doing so would cause her
emotional distress or some problem that would harm
her SENSE of well being. It need not be an actual threat
to her life-----just a threat to her well being. What she
cannot do is use abortion as a convenient form of birth
control. It is a very liberal policy You got a problem
with that? Since unlike you I know the situation in its
practical terms------what comes out of it is that women
are very much discouraged using abortion as birth
control------their docs insist that they use conventional
methods of birth control-----they favor IUD's
Maybe now they are doing depoprovera-----I will try
to find out. The system works fine---especially for the
WELL BENG of the women. The argument of
"well-being" for the pregnant woman overcomes even
the religious objection. ------usually.
In the system in the USA----doctors doing abortions
charge lots-------and have no idea what the woman
has done before-------and has no responsibility to know
if he prefers not to This policy leads to problems for
careless and naïve women-----the lack of availability
for poor unmarried girls is a danger to them----and
USING THE FAMILY insurance policy is a problem for
married women. It is true that Israel is a very soft touch
for pregnant women-------you object?
My opinion is life begins at inception, but I am not going to push my beliefs on others. The big problem is if these women are getting pregnant that means they are not using condoms (I realize some condoms can get a hole in and some sperm may get free) so that opens them up to VD's, HIV and even cervical Ca, not only an unwanted pregnancy. I am not for the return of backstreet abortions by any means, and yes pretty much anyone here can get an abortion. They, the man and woman should have to pay for it, then they won't mind dishing out the few bucks next time for condoms. I have no idea what an abortion costs. Do you?
your opinion is that "life begins at inception" -----is jibberish---maybe you meant to say that life begins at
CONCEPTION---------before you express opinions in English---try to learn English. Is the phrase "dishing out a few bucks" considered a reasonable manner of expression in
the dung heap which is your lair? I have no idea what
an abortion costs------is the cost of an abortion an issue for
you? I don't even know what condoms cost-----do you?
Did you once claim to work in health care? ------you need not
answer if you do not wish to. ----If you do-----I am horrified
No I meant inception: inception - definition of inception by The Free Dictionary
I have not worked where abortions are given and never had a need to know how much they are, and I have no idea how much condoms are since we never used one, so yes, if they want an abortion they should pay for it, even if it means selling their car, no government funded abortions.
OH---I understand----you believe that life begins in the garden of eden. at the INCEPTION OF LIFE. The ovum is a living cell as is the spermatozoa A condom actually destroys living sperm and it destroys the ovum which----unfused with a spermatozoa-----cannot implant and so dies.
the big issue for you is money??. In the medical facilities
in which you worked----were destitute persons thown out onto
the gutters?
if your "strick" means "strict" I never said it was strict---
I said that the woman and doctor must provide a REASON.
The reason can be "I cannot bear another child because...."
and she can cite a reason why doing so would cause her
emotional distress or some problem that would harm
her SENSE of well being. It need not be an actual threat
to her life-----just a threat to her well being. What she
cannot do is use abortion as a convenient form of birth
control. It is a very liberal policy You got a problem
with that? Since unlike you I know the situation in its
practical terms------what comes out of it is that women
are very much discouraged using abortion as birth
control------their docs insist that they use conventional
methods of birth control-----they favor IUD's
Maybe now they are doing depoprovera-----I will try
to find out. The system works fine---especially for the
WELL BENG of the women. The argument of
"well-being" for the pregnant woman overcomes even
the religious objection. ------usually.
In the system in the USA----doctors doing abortions
charge lots-------and have no idea what the woman
has done before-------and has no responsibility to know
if he prefers not to This policy leads to problems for
careless and naïve women-----the lack of availability
for poor unmarried girls is a danger to them----and
USING THE FAMILY insurance policy is a problem for
married women. It is true that Israel is a very soft touch
for pregnant women-------you object?
My opinion is life begins at inception, but I am not going to push my beliefs on others. The big problem is if these women are getting pregnant that means they are not using condoms (I realize some condoms can get a hole in and some sperm may get free) so that opens them up to VD's, HIV and even cervical Ca, not only an unwanted pregnancy. I am not for the return of backstreet abortions by any means, and yes pretty much anyone here can get an abortion. They, the man and woman should have to pay for it, then they won't mind dishing out the few bucks next time for condoms. I have no idea what an abortion costs. Do you?
your opinion is that "life begins at inception" -----is jibberish---maybe you meant to say that life begins at
CONCEPTION---------before you express opinions in English---try to learn English. Is the phrase "dishing out a few bucks" considered a reasonable manner of expression in
the dung heap which is your lair? I have no idea what
an abortion costs------is the cost of an abortion an issue for
you? I don't even know what condoms cost-----do you?
Did you once claim to work in health care? ------you need not
answer if you do not wish to. ----If you do-----I am horrifiedif your "strick" means "strict" I never said it was strict---
I said that the woman and doctor must provide a REASON.
The reason can be "I cannot bear another child because...."
and she can cite a reason why doing so would cause her
emotional distress or some problem that would harm
her SENSE of well being. It need not be an actual threat
to her life-----just a threat to her well being. What she
cannot do is use abortion as a convenient form of birth
control. It is a very liberal policy You got a problem
with that? Since unlike you I know the situation in its
practical terms------what comes out of it is that women
are very much discouraged using abortion as birth
control------their docs insist that they use conventional
methods of birth control-----they favor IUD's
Maybe now they are doing depoprovera-----I will try
to find out. The system works fine---especially for the
WELL BENG of the women. The argument of
"well-being" for the pregnant woman overcomes even
the religious objection. ------usually.
In the system in the USA----doctors doing abortions
charge lots-------and have no idea what the woman
has done before-------and has no responsibility to know
if he prefers not to This policy leads to problems for
careless and naïve women-----the lack of availability
for poor unmarried girls is a danger to them----and
USING THE FAMILY insurance policy is a problem for
married women. It is true that Israel is a very soft touch
for pregnant women-------you object?
My opinion is life begins at inception, but I am not going to push my beliefs on others. The big problem is if these women are getting pregnant that means they are not using condoms (I realize some condoms can get a hole in and some sperm may get free) so that opens them up to VD's, HIV and even cervical Ca, not only an unwanted pregnancy. I am not for the return of backstreet abortions by any means, and yes pretty much anyone here can get an abortion. They, the man and woman should have to pay for it, then they won't mind dishing out the few bucks next time for condoms. I have no idea what an abortion costs. Do you?
your opinion is that "life begins at inception" -----is jibberish---maybe you meant to say that life begins at
CONCEPTION---------before you express opinions in English---try to learn English. Is the phrase "dishing out a few bucks" considered a reasonable manner of expression in
the dung heap which is your lair? I have no idea what
an abortion costs------is the cost of an abortion an issue for
you? I don't even know what condoms cost-----do you?
Did you once claim to work in health care? ------you need not
answer if you do not wish to. ----If you do-----I am horrified
No I meant inception: inception - definition of inception by The Free Dictionary
I have not worked where abortions are given and never had a need to know how much they are, and I have no idea how much condoms are since we never used one, so yes, if they want an abortion they should pay for it, even if it means selling their car, no government funded abortions.
OH---I understand----you believe that life begins in the garden of eden. at the INCEPTION OF LIFE. The ovum is a living cell as is the spermatozoa A condom actually destroys living sperm and it destroys the ovum which----unfused with a spermatozoa-----cannot implant and so dies.
the big issue for you is money??. In the medical facilities
in which you worked----were destitute persons thown out onto
the gutters?
No life begins when the egg is fertilized, inception, fertilization. No the big issue is people having sex and not being responsible , such as using protection to avoid VD's and unwanted pregnancies. Actions have consequences whether one likes it or not. If you want to lay on your back and engage in unprotected sex, well then you get what you get. Personally I can't believe the need for all these abortions.
Pretty much.Kinda like global warming?No they researched and took a guess.They researched it and figured out they have emotions and have feelings. Ultrasounds are unbelievable now. So proving a fetus is a living being. Is the first step!this is a dumb thread. There is no neurological test for
"experience" ------the only way to know has a person
"feels" is by asking "how do you feel"? One can infer
but not actually determine "experience" Withdrawal
is a reflex. Electric potentials thru nerve fibers does not
prove conscious perception ------even a facial expression
consistent with "pain" ---does not prove conscious perception..
I would be very surprised if the electrical potentials that
happen ---across the nerve fibers leading from the finger-
tip to the spinal cord and up to the brain did NOT happen
in the fetus------SO??? that does not prove the fetus
has consciousness. Even a later EVOKED potential
across the brain does not prove consciousness.
For the record-----amebas exhibit withdrawal on
"touch"
