Nevada to join National Popular Vote compact

[Pogo]

States Move to Abolish Electoral College!

On this Wednesday transmission of The Alex Jones Show, we’ll cover the growing movement to eliminate the Electoral College, the crisis at America’s southern border, the Democrat movement to impeach and much more.



Oh this is goig to be the biggest take down of this country if these democratic ****s do this better wake up ppl your country is going bye bye you stupid mother fkrs!!

Quick OP fix: there is no movement to abolish the electoral college. That would require an amendment. The EC will continue to exist in its current form.

Several States passed laws to give their Electoral votes to whomever wins the National popularity vote. This is going to royally backfire if Trump gets the popularity vote.

On the contrary, it will have fulfilled its mission exactly as designed.

 

[Issa]

Matter of time it will happen.

You avoided the question:
Majority rule?
If that's the test, who should have won the 1992, 1996, 2000 and 2016 Presidential elections?

Those who got the popular vote, EC needs to be abolished it is outdated and undemocratic.

Its as relevant now as its ever been. The moment the EC goes away, is the exact moment that most states will secede from our union.

Than let it be...why leading states like California has to be held back by states that dont wanna progress and go forward ?
Countries are going high tech and clean energy, and some wanna go back to coal and diesel.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Mob rule happens in Congress. But its not mob rule, its maj rule.

So that's why the Senate has a 60 vote minimum for most legislation? That looks like more than a majority to me, but then again I am not stupid like you.

 

[Papageorgio]

Matter of time it will happen.

You avoided the question:
Majority rule?
If that's the test, who should have won the 1992, 1996, 2000 and 2016 Presidential elections?

Those who got the popular vote, EC needs to be abolished it is outdated and undemocratic.

Its as relevant now as its ever been. The moment the EC goes away, is the exact moment that most states will secede from our union.

Than let it be...why leading states like California has to be held back by states that dont wanna progress and go forward ?
Countries are going high tech and clean energy, and some wanna go back to coal and diesel.

Where would California get it’s power? In 2010 California paid 45% more for their energy than the average American 25% of its energy was imported. 2016, California imports 33% of its energy. California leads the nation in blackouts with 470 a year. Try surviving without other states.

California uses fire fighters from other states, including the military, leave the US and you lose fire fighting help.

California has the highest homeless population, it now has an outbreak of a third world country disease typhus and other diseases because of unsanitary living conditions. ‘Medieval’ Diseases Flare As Unsanitary Living Conditions Proliferate

Valley Fever is getting worse, with record outbreaks coming this year. Valley Fever cases in California continue to increase

STDs are on the rise in California a 244% increase with infants contracting congenital syphilis. That is just the tip of the iceberg. Sexually Transmitted Disease Rates Continue To Rise In California

Lyme disease is on the rise in California. Lyme Disease is On the Rise – An Expert Explains Why

California also faces a skilled worker shortage which is projected to get worse by 2025. California is at almost a crisis state in finding qualified teachers. https://www.ppic.org/publication/californias-need-for-skilled-workers/

Lack of workers will hurt the California economy. Labor shortage could slow California's economy | CALmatters

California is facing a worker shortage on farms which could produce higher cost for produce.

There is also a doctor and nursing shortage.

California faces a shortage of legal marijuana. California is working to avoid a shortage of legalized marijuana, state pot czar says

And of course California has a water shortage. California Household Water Shortage Data

Then there is the issue of education. California's children fall behind before they start school, and some never catch up, study finds

All the while the affordable housing crisis in California hurts the states ability to attract and keep teachers. California's housing affordability crisis looms over the state's problems with teachers

So the rest of the United States is holding California back on power? Nope! Supplying teachers? Nope. Third world diseases? Nope. Job shortages? Nope! Affordable housing? Nope. Fire fighting? Nope. Water? Nope. Some of California’s progress seems to be going in reverse.

 

[wamose]

This wouldn't be the first time they rigged a game in Nevada.

 

[Godboy]

Matter of time it will happen.

You avoided the question:
Majority rule?
If that's the test, who should have won the 1992, 1996, 2000 and 2016 Presidential elections?

Those who got the popular vote, EC needs to be abolished it is outdated and undemocratic.

Its as relevant now as its ever been. The moment the EC goes away, is the exact moment that most states will secede from our union.

Than let it be...why leading states like California has to be held back by states that dont wanna progress and go forward ?
Countries are going high tech and clean energy, and some wanna go back to coal and diesel.

How well do you think California will do after they piss off the other states enough to leave the union? Their exports will plummet in the face of that backlash. California needs the other states.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The Nevada Senate approved Tuesday a National Popular Vote bill on a party-line vote, sending the legislation aimed at upending the Electoral College to the governor.

Assembly Bill 186, which passed the Senateon a 12-8 vote, would bring Nevada into the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, an agreement between participating states to cast their electoral votes for the winner of the popular vote.

If signed as expected by Democratic Gov. Steve Sisolak, Nevada would become the 16th jurisdiction to join the compact, along with 14 states and the District of Columbia. The compact would take effect after states totaling 270 electoral votes, and with Nevada, the total would reach 195.

Nevada Senate passes National Popular Vote bill on party-line vote

That’s 2 new states in less than 2 months. The NPV keeps chugging along.

As a Nevada resident, my issue with distributing our electoral votes this way, were it to go into effect, essentially renders our state irrelevant. Right now, a lot of money is spent in Nevada during presidential elections because of our swing state status and those six electoral votes can make the difference between winning or losing the election. If we move to a popular vote all that goes away. Nobody cares about winning a state with 3 million people. They'll be pouring all of their money into getting turn out in New York, California, Florida, and Texas.

 

[Redfish]

Matter of time it will happen.

You avoided the question:
Majority rule?
If that's the test, who should have won the 1992, 1996, 2000 and 2016 Presidential elections?

Those who got the popular vote, EC needs to be abolished it is outdated and undemocratic.

Its as relevant now as its ever been. The moment the EC goes away, is the exact moment that most states will secede from our union.

Than let it be...why leading states like California has to be held back by states that dont wanna progress and go forward ?
Countries are going high tech and clean energy, and some wanna go back to coal and diesel.

cities in cal are full of human shit and used needles, you call that progress?

 

[Redfish]

The Nevada Senate approved Tuesday a National Popular Vote bill on a party-line vote, sending the legislation aimed at upending the Electoral College to the governor.

Assembly Bill 186, which passed the Senateon a 12-8 vote, would bring Nevada into the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, an agreement between participating states to cast their electoral votes for the winner of the popular vote.

If signed as expected by Democratic Gov. Steve Sisolak, Nevada would become the 16th jurisdiction to join the compact, along with 14 states and the District of Columbia. The compact would take effect after states totaling 270 electoral votes, and with Nevada, the total would reach 195.

Nevada Senate passes National Popular Vote bill on party-line vote

That’s 2 new states in less than 2 months. The NPV keeps chugging along.

As a Nevada resident, my issue with distributing our electoral votes this way, were it to go into effect, essentially renders our state irrelevant. Right now, a lot of money is spent in Nevada during presidential elections because of our swing state status and those six electoral votes can make the difference between winning or losing the election. If we move to a popular vote all that goes away. Nobody cares about winning a state with 3 million people. They'll be pouring all of their money into getting turn out in New York, California, Florida, and Texas.

correct, this only comes about because the dems dont believe they can ever win again with the EC. when you are a perpetual loser you try to change the rules. Thats all this is.

 

[Issa]

Matter of time it will happen.

You avoided the question:
Majority rule?
If that's the test, who should have won the 1992, 1996, 2000 and 2016 Presidential elections?

Those who got the popular vote, EC needs to be abolished it is outdated and undemocratic.

Its as relevant now as its ever been. The moment the EC goes away, is the exact moment that most states will secede from our union.

Than let it be...why leading states like California has to be held back by states that dont wanna progress and go forward ?
Countries are going high tech and clean energy, and some wanna go back to coal and diesel.

Where would California get it’s power? In 2010 California paid 45% more for their energy than the average American 25% of its energy was imported. 2016, California imports 33% of its energy. California leads the nation in blackouts with 470 a year. Try surviving without other states.

California uses fire fighters from other states, including the military, leave the US and you lose fire fighting help.

California has the highest homeless population, it now has an outbreak of a third world country disease typhus and other diseases because of unsanitary living conditions. ‘Medieval’ Diseases Flare As Unsanitary Living Conditions Proliferate

Valley Fever is getting worse, with record outbreaks coming this year. Valley Fever cases in California continue to increase

STDs are on the rise in California a 244% increase with infants contracting congenital syphilis. That is just the tip of the iceberg. Sexually Transmitted Disease Rates Continue To Rise In California

Lyme disease is on the rise in California. Lyme Disease is On the Rise – An Expert Explains Why

California also faces a skilled worker shortage which is projected to get worse by 2025. California is at almost a crisis state in finding qualified teachers. https://www.ppic.org/publication/californias-need-for-skilled-workers/

Lack of workers will hurt the California economy. Labor shortage could slow California's economy | CALmatters

California is facing a worker shortage on farms which could produce higher cost for produce.

There is also a doctor and nursing shortage.

California faces a shortage of legal marijuana. California is working to avoid a shortage of legalized marijuana, state pot czar says

And of course California has a water shortage. California Household Water Shortage Data

Then there is the issue of education. California's children fall behind before they start school, and some never catch up, study finds

All the while the affordable housing crisis in California hurts the states ability to attract and keep teachers. California's housing affordability crisis looms over the state's problems with teachers

So the rest of the United States is holding California back on power? Nope! Supplying teachers? Nope. Third world diseases? Nope. Job shortages? Nope! Affordable housing? Nope. Fire fighting? Nope. Water? Nope. Some of California’s progress seems to be going in reverse.

We can do all that through trade. Tell me how Japa. And countries do it.
You dont have to have everything....we give you food you give us your energy, water, etc...and WA and OR will be good addition as they have the same ambitions.

You know what makes me laugh, all these propaganda about how terrible California is, but yet the state is still the biggest economy, outpaced the US GDP growth and job creation national average, most technology you use comes from here, the entertainment that you watch comes from here, your unfortunate migrate here to make it. Everywhere I step a foot is busy and booming. Who are you kidding ?

 

[Papageorgio]

You avoided the question:
Majority rule?
If that's the test, who should have won the 1992, 1996, 2000 and 2016 Presidential elections?

Those who got the popular vote, EC needs to be abolished it is outdated and undemocratic.

Its as relevant now as its ever been. The moment the EC goes away, is the exact moment that most states will secede from our union.

Than let it be...why leading states like California has to be held back by states that dont wanna progress and go forward ?
Countries are going high tech and clean energy, and some wanna go back to coal and diesel.

Where would California get it’s power? In 2010 California paid 45% more for their energy than the average American 25% of its energy was imported. 2016, California imports 33% of its energy. California leads the nation in blackouts with 470 a year. Try surviving without other states.

California uses fire fighters from other states, including the military, leave the US and you lose fire fighting help.

California has the highest homeless population, it now has an outbreak of a third world country disease typhus and other diseases because of unsanitary living conditions. ‘Medieval’ Diseases Flare As Unsanitary Living Conditions Proliferate

Valley Fever is getting worse, with record outbreaks coming this year. Valley Fever cases in California continue to increase

STDs are on the rise in California a 244% increase with infants contracting congenital syphilis. That is just the tip of the iceberg. Sexually Transmitted Disease Rates Continue To Rise In California

Lyme disease is on the rise in California. Lyme Disease is On the Rise – An Expert Explains Why

California also faces a skilled worker shortage which is projected to get worse by 2025. California is at almost a crisis state in finding qualified teachers. https://www.ppic.org/publication/californias-need-for-skilled-workers/

Lack of workers will hurt the California economy. Labor shortage could slow California's economy | CALmatters

California is facing a worker shortage on farms which could produce higher cost for produce.

There is also a doctor and nursing shortage.

California faces a shortage of legal marijuana. California is working to avoid a shortage of legalized marijuana, state pot czar says

And of course California has a water shortage. California Household Water Shortage Data

Then there is the issue of education. California's children fall behind before they start school, and some never catch up, study finds

All the while the affordable housing crisis in California hurts the states ability to attract and keep teachers. California's housing affordability crisis looms over the state's problems with teachers

So the rest of the United States is holding California back on power? Nope! Supplying teachers? Nope. Third world diseases? Nope. Job shortages? Nope! Affordable housing? Nope. Fire fighting? Nope. Water? Nope. Some of California’s progress seems to be going in reverse.

We can do all that through trade. Tell me how Japa. And countries do it.
You dont have to have everything....we give you food you give us your energy, water, etc...and WA and OR will be good addition as they have the same ambitions.

You know what makes me laugh, all these propaganda about how terrible California is, but yet the state is still the biggest economy, outpaced the US GDP growth and job creation national average, most technology you use comes from here, the entertainment that you watch comes from here, your unfortunate migrate here to make it. Everywhere I step a foot is busy and booming. Who are you kidding ?

Neither Oregon or Washington would be stupid enough to leave the United States. If you can’t figure it out after all the links I posted, I’m not wasting my time. Best to you on your quest, you might want to go to other states and see how great they actually are, you sound pretty ignorant outside of California.

 

[Issa]

Those who got the popular vote, EC needs to be abolished it is outdated and undemocratic.

Its as relevant now as its ever been. The moment the EC goes away, is the exact moment that most states will secede from our union.

Than let it be...why leading states like California has to be held back by states that dont wanna progress and go forward ?
Countries are going high tech and clean energy, and some wanna go back to coal and diesel.

Where would California get it’s power? In 2010 California paid 45% more for their energy than the average American 25% of its energy was imported. 2016, California imports 33% of its energy. California leads the nation in blackouts with 470 a year. Try surviving without other states.

California uses fire fighters from other states, including the military, leave the US and you lose fire fighting help.

California has the highest homeless population, it now has an outbreak of a third world country disease typhus and other diseases because of unsanitary living conditions. ‘Medieval’ Diseases Flare As Unsanitary Living Conditions Proliferate

Valley Fever is getting worse, with record outbreaks coming this year. Valley Fever cases in California continue to increase

STDs are on the rise in California a 244% increase with infants contracting congenital syphilis. That is just the tip of the iceberg. Sexually Transmitted Disease Rates Continue To Rise In California

Lyme disease is on the rise in California. Lyme Disease is On the Rise – An Expert Explains Why

California also faces a skilled worker shortage which is projected to get worse by 2025. California is at almost a crisis state in finding qualified teachers. https://www.ppic.org/publication/californias-need-for-skilled-workers/

Lack of workers will hurt the California economy. Labor shortage could slow California's economy | CALmatters

California is facing a worker shortage on farms which could produce higher cost for produce.

There is also a doctor and nursing shortage.

California faces a shortage of legal marijuana. California is working to avoid a shortage of legalized marijuana, state pot czar says

And of course California has a water shortage. California Household Water Shortage Data

Then there is the issue of education. California's children fall behind before they start school, and some never catch up, study finds

All the while the affordable housing crisis in California hurts the states ability to attract and keep teachers. California's housing affordability crisis looms over the state's problems with teachers

So the rest of the United States is holding California back on power? Nope! Supplying teachers? Nope. Third world diseases? Nope. Job shortages? Nope! Affordable housing? Nope. Fire fighting? Nope. Water? Nope. Some of California’s progress seems to be going in reverse.

We can do all that through trade. Tell me how Japa. And countries do it.
You dont have to have everything....we give you food you give us your energy, water, etc...and WA and OR will be good addition as they have the same ambitions.

You know what makes me laugh, all these propaganda about how terrible California is, but yet the state is still the biggest economy, outpaced the US GDP growth and job creation national average, most technology you use comes from here, the entertainment that you watch comes from here, your unfortunate migrate here to make it. Everywhere I step a foot is busy and booming. Who are you kidding ?

Neither Oregon or Washington would be stupid enough to leave the United States. If you can’t figure it out after all the links I posted, I’m not wasting my time. Best to you on your quest, you might want to go to other states and see how great they actually are, you sound pretty ignorant outside of California.

We the citizens of the world know about the US more than Americans themselves, thanks to our education system and curiosity...it is a known fact that California is where it is happening. All economic indicators, factors of success, business possibilities are present...add to that the infrastructure ( major ports, airports, consulates, etc...) threats why most of us move to mainly blue cities and states....the other major factor is diversity and acceptance...that diminishes once you live blue areas.

Now tell me how how does Japan, thrive without having energy and mineral sources?
We can trade a nano product with other states vs millions of gallons of water .
Ohhh you need us more than we need you, trust me. Especially now the drought Is over.

 

[Papageorgio]

Its as relevant now as its ever been. The moment the EC goes away, is the exact moment that most states will secede from our union.

Than let it be...why leading states like California has to be held back by states that dont wanna progress and go forward ?
Countries are going high tech and clean energy, and some wanna go back to coal and diesel.

Where would California get it’s power? In 2010 California paid 45% more for their energy than the average American 25% of its energy was imported. 2016, California imports 33% of its energy. California leads the nation in blackouts with 470 a year. Try surviving without other states.

California uses fire fighters from other states, including the military, leave the US and you lose fire fighting help.

California has the highest homeless population, it now has an outbreak of a third world country disease typhus and other diseases because of unsanitary living conditions. ‘Medieval’ Diseases Flare As Unsanitary Living Conditions Proliferate

Valley Fever is getting worse, with record outbreaks coming this year. Valley Fever cases in California continue to increase

STDs are on the rise in California a 244% increase with infants contracting congenital syphilis. That is just the tip of the iceberg. Sexually Transmitted Disease Rates Continue To Rise In California

Lyme disease is on the rise in California. Lyme Disease is On the Rise – An Expert Explains Why

California also faces a skilled worker shortage which is projected to get worse by 2025. California is at almost a crisis state in finding qualified teachers. https://www.ppic.org/publication/californias-need-for-skilled-workers/

Lack of workers will hurt the California economy. Labor shortage could slow California's economy | CALmatters

California is facing a worker shortage on farms which could produce higher cost for produce.

There is also a doctor and nursing shortage.

California faces a shortage of legal marijuana. California is working to avoid a shortage of legalized marijuana, state pot czar says

And of course California has a water shortage. California Household Water Shortage Data

Then there is the issue of education. California's children fall behind before they start school, and some never catch up, study finds

All the while the affordable housing crisis in California hurts the states ability to attract and keep teachers. California's housing affordability crisis looms over the state's problems with teachers

So the rest of the United States is holding California back on power? Nope! Supplying teachers? Nope. Third world diseases? Nope. Job shortages? Nope! Affordable housing? Nope. Fire fighting? Nope. Water? Nope. Some of California’s progress seems to be going in reverse.

We can do all that through trade. Tell me how Japa. And countries do it.
You dont have to have everything....we give you food you give us your energy, water, etc...and WA and OR will be good addition as they have the same ambitions.

You know what makes me laugh, all these propaganda about how terrible California is, but yet the state is still the biggest economy, outpaced the US GDP growth and job creation national average, most technology you use comes from here, the entertainment that you watch comes from here, your unfortunate migrate here to make it. Everywhere I step a foot is busy and booming. Who are you kidding ?

Neither Oregon or Washington would be stupid enough to leave the United States. If you can’t figure it out after all the links I posted, I’m not wasting my time. Best to you on your quest, you might want to go to other states and see how great they actually are, you sound pretty ignorant outside of California.

We the citizens of the world know about the US more than Americans themselves, thanks to our education system and curiosity...it is a known fact that California is where it is happening. All economic indicators, factors of success, business possibilities are present...add to that the infrastructure ( major ports, airports, consulates, etc...) threats why most of us move to mainly blue cities and states....the other major factor is diversity and acceptance...that diminishes once you live blue areas.

Now tell me how how does Japan, thrive without having energy and mineral sources?
We can trade a nano product with other states vs millions of gallons of water .
Ohhh you need us more than we need you, trust me. Especially now the drought Is over.

Good for you, if you believe you are that superior good luck, California will never leave the US because most Californians, including my relatives there are a lot smarter than you.

 

[emilynghiem]

Mob rule happens in Congress. But its not mob rule, its maj rule.

So that's why the Senate has a 60 vote minimum for most legislation? That looks like more than a majority to me, but then again I am not stupid like you.

Dear Penelope and Admiral Rockwell Tory
Even 60% majority doesn't address the issue of a majority party legislating "political BELIEFS" that violate
equal Constitutional rights and protections of people of OTHER BELIEFS who suffer discrimination by CREED
when parties act like political religions abusing majority to dominate and "establish beliefs through govt."

That's still an unconstitutional flaw in the system overdue to be addressed and corrected.

It makes more sense to treat political beliefs (and whole groups or "mobs" of people pushing them
like a "political religion") the same as we would OTHER types of Religious Organizations and Beliefs
and keep these SEPARATE from Govt.

However, because of
(1) the nature of these TYPE of beliefs as inherently involving govt or the role of govt
(such as belief in health care as a right through govt that cannot be separated from one's beliefs about govt)
(2) the precedent and traditions already established in our history where parties HAVE been used to establish beliefs by majority rule (and even judicial rule in the case of ACA which is still contested on the basis of conflicting beliefs about govt and Constitutional limits, process, and separation of authority)
(3) no agreement or solution yet offered (or even envisioned) as to how to FIX or replace the given system with a correction, where people do not even believe it is possible to resolve this --

That's why the principle and process of "separating political beliefs/religions/creeds" from Govt is complex and prohibitive, because of these beliefs being already EMBEDDED in party process, existing laws, and govt processes. Its HARDER to remove them BECAUSE they have long been embedded and established in our traditional processes and laws.

HOWEVER, failing to address this is still as problematic as if we were to allow
Christian beliefs to continue being embedded in govt laws and process "just because they already exist" or any other religious organization's beliefs and practices for that matter.
If it was a REGULAR religious organization, then even if these traditions were already embedded in govt, we would understand the argument to REMOVE them based on PRINCIPLE (regardless how long such beliefs have been embedded).

And that is why the movements to REMOVE Crosses, Prayers, and even Marriage restricted to "one man and one
woman only" HAVE BEEN argued and successfully CHANGED.

So if we are going to allow THOSE longstanding traditions to be changed because they discriminate against other beliefs,
you'd think we could use the same basis to argue for political beliefs to be REMOVED from govt laws and processes
because they discriminate against people of other beliefs and creeds.

I think it's just a matter of time before the democratic process EVOLVES to recognize
all beliefs this way, and agree they should not be imposed by Govt, either by majority
rule or judicial rule, where BELIEFS are involved that Discriminate against others by CREED.

Just a matter of time, before we start treating all beliefs CONSISTENTLY
instead of favoring some because we "agree with them" while allowing
other beliefs to be discriminated against "because we disagree."

 

[Issa]

Than let it be...why leading states like California has to be held back by states that dont wanna progress and go forward ?
Countries are going high tech and clean energy, and some wanna go back to coal and diesel.

Where would California get it’s power? In 2010 California paid 45% more for their energy than the average American 25% of its energy was imported. 2016, California imports 33% of its energy. California leads the nation in blackouts with 470 a year. Try surviving without other states.

California uses fire fighters from other states, including the military, leave the US and you lose fire fighting help.

California has the highest homeless population, it now has an outbreak of a third world country disease typhus and other diseases because of unsanitary living conditions. ‘Medieval’ Diseases Flare As Unsanitary Living Conditions Proliferate

Valley Fever is getting worse, with record outbreaks coming this year. Valley Fever cases in California continue to increase

STDs are on the rise in California a 244% increase with infants contracting congenital syphilis. That is just the tip of the iceberg. Sexually Transmitted Disease Rates Continue To Rise In California

Lyme disease is on the rise in California. Lyme Disease is On the Rise – An Expert Explains Why

California also faces a skilled worker shortage which is projected to get worse by 2025. California is at almost a crisis state in finding qualified teachers. https://www.ppic.org/publication/californias-need-for-skilled-workers/

Lack of workers will hurt the California economy. Labor shortage could slow California's economy | CALmatters

California is facing a worker shortage on farms which could produce higher cost for produce.

There is also a doctor and nursing shortage.

California faces a shortage of legal marijuana. California is working to avoid a shortage of legalized marijuana, state pot czar says

And of course California has a water shortage. California Household Water Shortage Data

Then there is the issue of education. California's children fall behind before they start school, and some never catch up, study finds

All the while the affordable housing crisis in California hurts the states ability to attract and keep teachers. California's housing affordability crisis looms over the state's problems with teachers

So the rest of the United States is holding California back on power? Nope! Supplying teachers? Nope. Third world diseases? Nope. Job shortages? Nope! Affordable housing? Nope. Fire fighting? Nope. Water? Nope. Some of California’s progress seems to be going in reverse.

We can do all that through trade. Tell me how Japa. And countries do it.
You dont have to have everything....we give you food you give us your energy, water, etc...and WA and OR will be good addition as they have the same ambitions.

You know what makes me laugh, all these propaganda about how terrible California is, but yet the state is still the biggest economy, outpaced the US GDP growth and job creation national average, most technology you use comes from here, the entertainment that you watch comes from here, your unfortunate migrate here to make it. Everywhere I step a foot is busy and booming. Who are you kidding ?

Neither Oregon or Washington would be stupid enough to leave the United States. If you can’t figure it out after all the links I posted, I’m not wasting my time. Best to you on your quest, you might want to go to other states and see how great they actually are, you sound pretty ignorant outside of California.

We the citizens of the world know about the US more than Americans themselves, thanks to our education system and curiosity...it is a known fact that California is where it is happening. All economic indicators, factors of success, business possibilities are present...add to that the infrastructure ( major ports, airports, consulates, etc...) threats why most of us move to mainly blue cities and states....the other major factor is diversity and acceptance...that diminishes once you live blue areas.

Now tell me how how does Japan, thrive without having energy and mineral sources?
We can trade a nano product with other states vs millions of gallons of water .
Ohhh you need us more than we need you, trust me. Especially now the drought Is over.

Good for you, if you believe you are that superior good luck, California will never leave the US because most Californians, including my relatives there are a lot smarter than you.

Demographics in California are shifting dramatically, trust me in few years you will be super shocked.....Lot of polls actually indicated that Californians favor leaving the Union.....and let's be rational here.
You cons hate California so much, just look at how many topics are anti California....also most of us here think that we are not compatible with views of the red states....i'm conservative myself (not pro abortion, don't agree with same sex marriage, don't like too much government....) But i opt to cheer for the progressives because they tend to be more accepting, they are rational, they aim for the future and I can't say the same about the cons.

I think it will be more beneficial for California to leave. Than After we go all green, you guys can drink your oil and inhale your gas (kidding).....or we can just import it from Venezuela and Iran just to piss you off lol.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So that's why the Senate has a 60 vote minimum for most legislation?

No, that's a new development due to the unprecedented obstruction of the republican babies in obama's Congress. Welcome to the new norm, brought to you by apoplectic fear of president blackenstein.

 

[Silver Blooded]

Where would California get it’s power? In 2010 California paid 45% more for their energy than the average American 25% of its energy was imported. 2016, California imports 33% of its energy. California leads the nation in blackouts with 470 a year. Try surviving without other states.

California uses fire fighters from other states, including the military, leave the US and you lose fire fighting help.

California has the highest homeless population, it now has an outbreak of a third world country disease typhus and other diseases because of unsanitary living conditions. ‘Medieval’ Diseases Flare As Unsanitary Living Conditions Proliferate

Valley Fever is getting worse, with record outbreaks coming this year. Valley Fever cases in California continue to increase

STDs are on the rise in California a 244% increase with infants contracting congenital syphilis. That is just the tip of the iceberg. Sexually Transmitted Disease Rates Continue To Rise In California

Lyme disease is on the rise in California. Lyme Disease is On the Rise – An Expert Explains Why

California also faces a skilled worker shortage which is projected to get worse by 2025. California is at almost a crisis state in finding qualified teachers. https://www.ppic.org/publication/californias-need-for-skilled-workers/

Lack of workers will hurt the California economy. Labor shortage could slow California's economy | CALmatters

California is facing a worker shortage on farms which could produce higher cost for produce.

There is also a doctor and nursing shortage.

California faces a shortage of legal marijuana. California is working to avoid a shortage of legalized marijuana, state pot czar says

And of course California has a water shortage. California Household Water Shortage Data

Then there is the issue of education. California's children fall behind before they start school, and some never catch up, study finds

All the while the affordable housing crisis in California hurts the states ability to attract and keep teachers. California's housing affordability crisis looms over the state's problems with teachers

So the rest of the United States is holding California back on power? Nope! Supplying teachers? Nope. Third world diseases? Nope. Job shortages? Nope! Affordable housing? Nope. Fire fighting? Nope. Water? Nope. Some of California’s progress seems to be going in reverse.

We can do all that through trade. Tell me how Japa. And countries do it.
You dont have to have everything....we give you food you give us your energy, water, etc...and WA and OR will be good addition as they have the same ambitions.

You know what makes me laugh, all these propaganda about how terrible California is, but yet the state is still the biggest economy, outpaced the US GDP growth and job creation national average, most technology you use comes from here, the entertainment that you watch comes from here, your unfortunate migrate here to make it. Everywhere I step a foot is busy and booming. Who are you kidding ?

Neither Oregon or Washington would be stupid enough to leave the United States. If you can’t figure it out after all the links I posted, I’m not wasting my time. Best to you on your quest, you might want to go to other states and see how great they actually are, you sound pretty ignorant outside of California.

We the citizens of the world know about the US more than Americans themselves, thanks to our education system and curiosity...it is a known fact that California is where it is happening. All economic indicators, factors of success, business possibilities are present...add to that the infrastructure ( major ports, airports, consulates, etc...) threats why most of us move to mainly blue cities and states....the other major factor is diversity and acceptance...that diminishes once you live blue areas.

Now tell me how how does Japan, thrive without having energy and mineral sources?
We can trade a nano product with other states vs millions of gallons of water .
Ohhh you need us more than we need you, trust me. Especially now the drought Is over.

Good for you, if you believe you are that superior good luck, California will never leave the US because most Californians, including my relatives there are a lot smarter than you.

Demographics in California are shifting dramatically, trust me in few years you will be super shocked.....Lot of polls actually indicated that Californians favor leaving the Union.....and let's be rational here.
You cons hate California so much, just look at how many topics are anti California....also most of us here think that we are not compatible with views of the red states....i'm conservative myself (not pro abortion, don't agree with same sex marriage, don't like too much government....) But i opt to cheer for the progressives because they tend to be more accepting, they are rational, they aim for the future and I can't say the same about the cons.

I think it will be more beneficial for California to leave. Than After we go all green, you guys can drink your oil and inhale your gas (kidding).....or we can just import it from Venezuela and Iran just to piss you off lol.

"More accepting?" Talk to a black Conservative and ask them how accepting progressives are. Ask them how many times they've been called "Uncle Tom" and "Coon" by progressives.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

We can do all that through trade. Tell me how Japa. And countries do it.
You dont have to have everything....we give you food you give us your energy, water, etc...and WA and OR will be good addition as they have the same ambitions.

You know what makes me laugh, all these propaganda about how terrible California is, but yet the state is still the biggest economy, outpaced the US GDP growth and job creation national average, most technology you use comes from here, the entertainment that you watch comes from here, your unfortunate migrate here to make it. Everywhere I step a foot is busy and booming. Who are you kidding ?

Neither Oregon or Washington would be stupid enough to leave the United States. If you can’t figure it out after all the links I posted, I’m not wasting my time. Best to you on your quest, you might want to go to other states and see how great they actually are, you sound pretty ignorant outside of California.

We the citizens of the world know about the US more than Americans themselves, thanks to our education system and curiosity...it is a known fact that California is where it is happening. All economic indicators, factors of success, business possibilities are present...add to that the infrastructure ( major ports, airports, consulates, etc...) threats why most of us move to mainly blue cities and states....the other major factor is diversity and acceptance...that diminishes once you live blue areas.

Now tell me how how does Japan, thrive without having energy and mineral sources?
We can trade a nano product with other states vs millions of gallons of water .
Ohhh you need us more than we need you, trust me. Especially now the drought Is over.

Good for you, if you believe you are that superior good luck, California will never leave the US because most Californians, including my relatives there are a lot smarter than you.

Demographics in California are shifting dramatically, trust me in few years you will be super shocked.....Lot of polls actually indicated that Californians favor leaving the Union.....and let's be rational here.
You cons hate California so much, just look at how many topics are anti California....also most of us here think that we are not compatible with views of the red states....i'm conservative myself (not pro abortion, don't agree with same sex marriage, don't like too much government....) But i opt to cheer for the progressives because they tend to be more accepting, they are rational, they aim for the future and I can't say the same about the cons.

I think it will be more beneficial for California to leave. Than After we go all green, you guys can drink your oil and inhale your gas (kidding).....or we can just import it from Venezuela and Iran just to piss you off lol.

"More accepting?" Talk to a black Conservative and ask them how accepting progressives are. Ask them how many times they've been called "Uncle Tom" and "Coon" by progressives.

I would ask Ben Carson, but he would probably just start drooling on himself and ask to touch my shoes.

 

[Silver Blooded]

Neither Oregon or Washington would be stupid enough to leave the United States. If you can’t figure it out after all the links I posted, I’m not wasting my time. Best to you on your quest, you might want to go to other states and see how great they actually are, you sound pretty ignorant outside of California.

We the citizens of the world know about the US more than Americans themselves, thanks to our education system and curiosity...it is a known fact that California is where it is happening. All economic indicators, factors of success, business possibilities are present...add to that the infrastructure ( major ports, airports, consulates, etc...) threats why most of us move to mainly blue cities and states....the other major factor is diversity and acceptance...that diminishes once you live blue areas.

Now tell me how how does Japan, thrive without having energy and mineral sources?
We can trade a nano product with other states vs millions of gallons of water .
Ohhh you need us more than we need you, trust me. Especially now the drought Is over.

Good for you, if you believe you are that superior good luck, California will never leave the US because most Californians, including my relatives there are a lot smarter than you.

Demographics in California are shifting dramatically, trust me in few years you will be super shocked.....Lot of polls actually indicated that Californians favor leaving the Union.....and let's be rational here.
You cons hate California so much, just look at how many topics are anti California....also most of us here think that we are not compatible with views of the red states....i'm conservative myself (not pro abortion, don't agree with same sex marriage, don't like too much government....) But i opt to cheer for the progressives because they tend to be more accepting, they are rational, they aim for the future and I can't say the same about the cons.

I think it will be more beneficial for California to leave. Than After we go all green, you guys can drink your oil and inhale your gas (kidding).....or we can just import it from Venezuela and Iran just to piss you off lol.

"More accepting?" Talk to a black Conservative and ask them how accepting progressives are. Ask them how many times they've been called "Uncle Tom" and "Coon" by progressives.

I would ask Ben Carson, but he would probably just start drooling on himself and ask to touch my shoes.

Case in point.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

We the citizens of the world know about the US more than Americans themselves, thanks to our education system and curiosity...it is a known fact that California is where it is happening. All economic indicators, factors of success, business possibilities are present...add to that the infrastructure ( major ports, airports, consulates, etc...) threats why most of us move to mainly blue cities and states....the other major factor is diversity and acceptance...that diminishes once you live blue areas.

Now tell me how how does Japan, thrive without having energy and mineral sources?
We can trade a nano product with other states vs millions of gallons of water .
Ohhh you need us more than we need you, trust me. Especially now the drought Is over.

Good for you, if you believe you are that superior good luck, California will never leave the US because most Californians, including my relatives there are a lot smarter than you.

Demographics in California are shifting dramatically, trust me in few years you will be super shocked.....Lot of polls actually indicated that Californians favor leaving the Union.....and let's be rational here.
You cons hate California so much, just look at how many topics are anti California....also most of us here think that we are not compatible with views of the red states....i'm conservative myself (not pro abortion, don't agree with same sex marriage, don't like too much government....) But i opt to cheer for the progressives because they tend to be more accepting, they are rational, they aim for the future and I can't say the same about the cons.

I think it will be more beneficial for California to leave. Than After we go all green, you guys can drink your oil and inhale your gas (kidding).....or we can just import it from Venezuela and Iran just to piss you off lol.

"More accepting?" Talk to a black Conservative and ask them how accepting progressives are. Ask them how many times they've been called "Uncle Tom" and "Coon" by progressives.

I would ask Ben Carson, but he would probably just start drooling on himself and ask to touch my shoes.

Case in point.

That didn't make sense. You're a bit delusional, aren't ya?