Netanyahu's response to UN's resulution.

[Indeependent]

And you are a revisionist.

I am an educated person who does not believe in crazy religious fairy tales.

By the way, The Romans took the elite and tried to exterminate the riff raff.
Of course, history has always proven that there are very few Jews who are riff raff...and that's what really pisses off Jew haters like you.

You seem to be a Goyim-Hater that ignores the scientific evidence and sticks to crazy religious dogmas about the "special Yahweh given rights" of Jews.

Me too.
But I'm also not a self-hating Jew.

 

[Indeependent]

It is that uncompromising (and irrational) position that will result in the Jewish colonial project to end in tears. It is truly unbelievable that these people won't accept that the land was inhabited by Muslims and Christians before the hordes of people that happened to practice Judaism, from other continents, invaded the land and expropriated, evicted and now rule over the native people they were unable to evict. If you people don't compromise and accept the reality that you took the land from the existing inhabitants, the future is not bright.

When, exactly, did this purported "invasion" happen?

Let's get all the facts out ...

Our gal Monty is a Revisionist.
Just ask her about the Roman conquest of Jerusalem; she says it never happened.

I present facts from source documents. You make things up based on Zionist propaganda. And yes, of course Pompey conquered Jerusalem.

You are admitting the Romans conquered Jerusalem and exiled millions of Jews into their Empire?

The Romans conquered Jerusalem. Millions of Jews were not exiled. That's a myth, and hysterically funny. Josephus references 90,000 people being brought to Rome after the Great Jewish Revolt. During the war it's exceedingly likely that at least some people fled the conflict to more peaceful areas. There are references to some Sicarii (assassins) escaping to Egypt, for example. No one bothered to figure out how many, but some people were definitely displaced.

There wasn't an exile, since Jews were still allowed to live in Palestine. That's not really disputed by any historian. There were enough Jews in Palestine for yet another revolt in 135 AD. LOL

The Jews disappeared because many converted to Christianity over the years and more converted to Christianity when Christianity became the state religion in 380 AD. Non-Christians (Jews included) were not permitted to enter Jerusalem, much less live in Jerusalem until the Arab conquest when the Jews were again allowed to enter.

The people subsequently over the years converted to Islam, but Christians were still the majority, ruled by Muslims in Palestine when the Crusaders arrived and conquered Jerusalem. After Saladin defeated the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem, slowly, the Christians began to convert to Islam and eventually became the 10-20% minority of 19th century Palestine.

So which Monty are you?
One of you would NEVER post this.

 

[Indeependent]

If Jesus is so revered by Islam, why have Muslims committed a genocide of Christians in the Middle East, in our own day and age? In fact, every 30 minutes a Christian is killed by Muslims in the ME. Yes, the Muslims who have Jesus as a saint.

Christians and Muslims lived in peace in the ME, till the "Jewish state" was created. And Mossad or other Secret Services of Zionists were caught red handed many times, planning or perpetrating "false flag" operations that would instigate hate between different religious groups. Here is only one example from many:

As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers. The bombs were timed to detonate several hours after closing time. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood...
[...]
On March 30, 2005 Israel publicly honored the surviving spies, and President Moshe Katsav presented each with a certificate of appreciation for their efforts on behalf of the state, ending decades of official denial by Israel.[3]

Lavon Affair - Wikipedia

Spies, that planted bombs in American property and tried to kill Americans (to blame the "false-flag_attack" on Muslims) were honoured in Israel in 2005 by Israeli President.

And what was the response of the USA?
Well, more support for Israel!

In fact, Israel, including Judea and Samaria, is pretty much the most peaceful place in the ME, and it is mind boggling that you blame the slaughter of Arabs by Arabs on Israel.

The Occupied Territory of Palestine is not part of Israel.

How young are you and where are you doing your research?

My age is irrelevant and I read books.

Name 3 books you have read...Title, Author, Publisher.

 

[Eloy]

If Jesus is so revered by Islam, why have Muslims committed a genocide of Christians in the Middle East, in our own day and age? In fact, every 30 minutes a Christian is killed by Muslims in the ME. Yes, the Muslims who have Jesus as a saint.

Christians and Muslims lived in peace in the ME, till the "Jewish state" was created. And Mossad or other Secret Services of Zionists were caught red handed many times, planning or perpetrating "false flag" operations that would instigate hate between different religious groups. Here is only one example from many:

As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers. The bombs were timed to detonate several hours after closing time. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood...
[...]
On March 30, 2005 Israel publicly honored the surviving spies, and President Moshe Katsav presented each with a certificate of appreciation for their efforts on behalf of the state, ending decades of official denial by Israel.[3]

Lavon Affair - Wikipedia

Spies, that planted bombs in American property and tried to kill Americans (to blame the "false-flag_attack" on Muslims) were honoured in Israel in 2005 by Israeli President.

And what was the response of the USA?
Well, more support for Israel!

In fact, Israel, including Judea and Samaria, is pretty much the most peaceful place in the ME, and it is mind boggling that you blame the slaughter of Arabs by Arabs on Israel.

The Occupied Territory of Palestine is not part of Israel.

Judea and Samaria are effectively part of Israel, but at this time Israel has only taken the formal step of annexing Jerusalem.

The world sees the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, as Occupied Palestinian Territory.

 

[Indeependent]

If Jesus is so revered by Islam, why have Muslims committed a genocide of Christians in the Middle East, in our own day and age? In fact, every 30 minutes a Christian is killed by Muslims in the ME. Yes, the Muslims who have Jesus as a saint.

Christians and Muslims lived in peace in the ME, till the "Jewish state" was created. And Mossad or other Secret Services of Zionists were caught red handed many times, planning or perpetrating "false flag" operations that would instigate hate between different religious groups. Here is only one example from many:

As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers. The bombs were timed to detonate several hours after closing time. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood...
[...]
On March 30, 2005 Israel publicly honored the surviving spies, and President Moshe Katsav presented each with a certificate of appreciation for their efforts on behalf of the state, ending decades of official denial by Israel.[3]

Lavon Affair - Wikipedia

Spies, that planted bombs in American property and tried to kill Americans (to blame the "false-flag_attack" on Muslims) were honoured in Israel in 2005 by Israeli President.

And what was the response of the USA?
Well, more support for Israel!

In fact, Israel, including Judea and Samaria, is pretty much the most peaceful place in the ME, and it is mind boggling that you blame the slaughter of Arabs by Arabs on Israel.

The Occupied Territory of Palestine is not part of Israel.

Judea and Samaria are effectively part of Israel, but at this time Israel has only taken the formal step of annexing Jerusalem.

The world sees the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, as Occupied Palestinian Territory.

You mean the Arab and African nations.

 

[Art__Allm]

Figures for the population of Jews in Palestine at the time of the destruction of the temple vary but to say that millions were dispersed throughout the Roman Empire sounds inflated. Perhaps there were no more than one million Jews in the province at that time. (Pastor, J. (1997). Land and economy in ancient Palestine. p. 6. London and New York: Routledge.)

How could a semi-desert land feed more than 1 million people?

According to Israeli archeologist Magen Broshi, west of the Jordan River the population did not exceed 1 million:[11]

"... the population of Palestine in antiquity did not exceed a million persons. It can also be shown, moreover, that this was more or less the size of the population in the peak period – the late Byzantine period, around AD 600"[12]

Broshi made calculations based on the grain-producing capacity of Palestine and on its role in the indigenous diet, assuming an average annual per-capita consumption of 200 kg. (with a maximum of 250 kg.), which would work out to the limit of a sustainable population of 1,250,000 people. As this is the maximum number, the difference between the population of Herodian Israel and other eras in the Second Temple Period, up to the Byzantine period, is left to guess. The proportion of Jews to gentiles is also unknown.[11]

Demographic history of Palestine (region) - Wikipedia

Do not forget, that Jews were not the majority of the population in the Roman Province, called Palestine. There were a lot of pagans, probably more than Jews. So there were maybe 300 - 500 thousand Jews in this Roman Province (Palestine).

But some idiots still talk about millions of Jews that were presumably expelled by Romans.

How stupid!

 

[Eloy]

Or you are all just annoying

Peace cannot exist without justice. A future peace cannot exist without recognizing factual history. The irony is only two types of people will ignore the above guidance — “heartless Zionists” and “Hamas terrorists.”

Hopefully the majority of us can build a strong enough middle ground to neutralize both extremes and finally get what we all want — peace.

Justice is subjective. It's not absolute. Justice for the Arab wouldn't be justice for the Jew. So who will decide what is "Justice", exactly?

International law as formulated by the United Nations, the International Court of Justice, and the International Criminal Court decides what justice is and with regularity Israelis are found to be violators.

Israelis are often called violators, but there is no rational basis in history, logic or law for that charge, so what is wrong with institutions that level these charges with no facts to support them?

The Israelis are habitual violators of international law which is why they are considered a bunch of shameless scofflaws.

But of course, there is no rational basis in history, logic or law for making that claim.

International law states that territory cannot be acquired through war. The targeting of civilians for wholesale slaughter is a violation of international law. And so on in a list as long as your arm. Hence, Israel is a criminal state.

 

[Indeependent]

Figures for the population of Jews in Palestine at the time of the destruction of the temple vary but to say that millions were dispersed throughout the Roman Empire sounds inflated. Perhaps there were no more than one million Jews in the province at that time. (Pastor, J. (1997). Land and economy in ancient Palestine. p. 6. London and New York: Routledge.)

How could a semi-desert land feed more than 1 million people?

According to Israeli archeologist Magen Broshi, west of the Jordan River the population did not exceed 1 million:[11]

"... the population of Palestine in antiquity did not exceed a million persons. It can also be shown, moreover, that this was more or less the size of the population in the peak period – the late Byzantine period, around AD 600"[12]

Broshi made calculations based on the grain-producing capacity of Palestine and on its role in the indigenous diet, assuming an average annual per-capita consumption of 200 kg. (with a maximum of 250 kg.), which would work out to the limit of a sustainable population of 1,250,000 people. As this is the maximum number, the difference between the population of Herodian Israel and other eras in the Second Temple Period, up to the Byzantine period, is left to guess. The proportion of Jews to gentiles is also unknown.[11]

Demographic history of Palestine (region) - Wikipedia

Do not forget, that Jews were not the majority of the population in the Roman Province, called Palestine. There were a lot of pagans, probably more than Jews. So there were maybe 300 - 500 thousand Jews in this Roman Empire.
But some idiots still talk about millions of Jews that were presumably expelled by Romans.

How stupid!

Another idiot who thinks people who lived 1,000 or 2,000 years were stupid.
Mankind has made it through thousands of years by having people way more innovative than you.

 

[toomuchtime_]

While there have been periods of relative peace between Christians and Muslims in some parts of the ME, Christians as well as Jews have nearly always been subject discrimination under the law in Muslim controlled countries and from the Crusades through the Muslim conquest of the eastern Roman Empire right down to today, Christian Europe has more often been in armed conflict with Muslims than not.

Jews and Muslims were allies in the medieval Spain (Andalusia).

According to Judaism, Islam is better for Jews, than Christianity.

A Jew can enter a Mosque and pray there, but a Jews cannot enter a Church, because a Church is (according to Judaism) unclean.

And in Europe Jews and Muslims are allies, too.

Jews and Muslims have similar cultures. A German court tried to prohibit the genitale mutilation of small children in Germany, but Jews supported the Muslims, they said that circumcision is part of Muslim and Jewish culture, and they immediately invoked Hitler to promote their agenda.

The same with the ritual slaughter of animals, Jews support Muslims and claim that this is their culture, though from the point of view of Europeans it is torture of animals.

Rabbi Baruch Efrati, a yeshiva head and community rabbi in the West Bank settlement of Efrat, believes that the Islamization of Europe is actually a good thing.
...
The theological reason, according to Rabbi Efrati, is that Christianity – which he sees as idolatry – has a tendency to "destroy normal life and abstain from it on the one hand, while losing modesty on the other hand," as it "ranges between radical monasticism to radical Western licentiousness."

Islam, the rabbi added, is "a religion which misjudges its prophets but is relatively honest. It educates a bit more for a stable life of marriage and creation, where there is certain modesty and respect for God."

Ynetnews Jewish Scene - 'Islamization of Europe a good thing'

As we see, in Europe Jews and Muslims are natural allies.
Zionists want us to hate the Muslims that live in their Muslim countries, like Palestine, in this case Christians have to support Zionists.

But when these Muslims are displaced from their homes and flee to Europe, commit crimes there, we are supposed to love them, and Zionist Jews always support Muslims that live in Europe or other Western countries.

Is this not strange?

There were periods of peace but Jews and Christians were always discriminated against by law in Muslim countries. As for Spain,

"On 30 December 1066 (9 Tevet 4827), Muslim mobs stormed the royal palace where Joseph had sought refuge, then crucified him. In the ensuing massacre of the Jewish population, many of the Jews of Granada were murdered. The 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia claims, "More than 1,500 Jewish families, numbering 4,000 persons, fell in one day."[13] However, the 1971 edition does not give precise casualty figures.[14]

Joseph's wife fled to Lucena with her son Azariah, where she was supported by the community. Azariah, however, died in early youth.

According to historian Bernard Lewis, the massacre is "usually ascribed to a reaction among the Muslim population against a powerful and ostentatious Jewish vizier."[15]

Lewis writes:

Particularly instructive in this respect is an ancient anti-Semitic poem of Abu Ishaq, written in Granada in 1066. This poem, which is said to be instrumental in provoking the anti-Jewish outbreak of that year, contains these specific lines:

Do not consider it a breach of faith to kill them, the breach of faith would be to let them carry on.
They have violated our covenant with them, so how can you be held guilty against the violators?
How can they have any pact when we are obscure and they are prominent?
Now we are humble, beside them, as if we were wrong and they were right![16]

1066 Granada massacre - Wikipedia

There have been similar massacres of Jews in nearly all major cities in the Muslim ME over the centuries, right down to the Mandate period. In nearly every case, the Muslim cited Jews rising to high places or more frequently, that they were attacking Islam, the same reasons given for the second intifada and the "knife inifada". Clearly, it is nonsense to say the hostility Muslims feel for Jews began with the modern state of Israel.

As individuals there is no reason Jews and Muslims cannot get along, but as a people, Muslims have been hostile toward Jews since Muhammad.

 

[Indeependent]

Justice is subjective. It's not absolute. Justice for the Arab wouldn't be justice for the Jew. So who will decide what is "Justice", exactly?

International law as formulated by the United Nations, the International Court of Justice, and the International Criminal Court decides what justice is and with regularity Israelis are found to be violators.

Israelis are often called violators, but there is no rational basis in history, logic or law for that charge, so what is wrong with institutions that level these charges with no facts to support them?

The Israelis are habitual violators of international law which is why they are considered a bunch of shameless scofflaws.

But of course, there is no rational basis in history, logic or law for making that claim.

International law states that territory cannot be acquired through war. The targeting of civilians for wholesale slaughter is a violation of international law. And so on in a list as long as your arm. Hence, Israel is a criminal state.

Name 3 books you have read...Title, Author, Publisher.

 

[Spare_change]

Justice is subjective. It's not absolute. Justice for the Arab wouldn't be justice for the Jew. So who will decide what is "Justice", exactly?

International law as formulated by the United Nations, the International Court of Justice, and the International Criminal Court decides what justice is and with regularity Israelis are found to be violators.

Israelis are often called violators, but there is no rational basis in history, logic or law for that charge, so what is wrong with institutions that level these charges with no facts to support them?

The Israelis are habitual violators of international law which is why they are considered a bunch of shameless scofflaws.

But of course, there is no rational basis in history, logic or law for making that claim.

International law states that territory cannot be acquired through war. The targeting of civilians for wholesale slaughter is a violation of international law. And so on in a list as long as your arm. Hence, Israel is a criminal state.

Actually, that's not true .... International law does NOT say that .... a UN resolution says that ... and it is not considered international law, nor can it be pressed in the World Court.

 

[Indeependent]

International law as formulated by the United Nations, the International Court of Justice, and the International Criminal Court decides what justice is and with regularity Israelis are found to be violators.

Israelis are often called violators, but there is no rational basis in history, logic or law for that charge, so what is wrong with institutions that level these charges with no facts to support them?

The Israelis are habitual violators of international law which is why they are considered a bunch of shameless scofflaws.

But of course, there is no rational basis in history, logic or law for making that claim.

International law states that territory cannot be acquired through war. The targeting of civilians for wholesale slaughter is a violation of international law. And so on in a list as long as your arm. Hence, Israel is a criminal state.

Actually, that's not true .... International law does NOT say that .... a UN resolution says that ... and it is not considered international law, nor can it be pressed in the World Court.

Shhh...the retard might actually learn something and his head will hurt.

 

[Eloy]

Christians and Muslims lived in peace in the ME, till the "Jewish state" was created. And Mossad or other Secret Services of Zionists were caught red handed many times, planning or perpetrating "false flag" operations that would instigate hate between different religious groups. Here is only one example from many:

Spies, that planted bombs in American property and tried to kill Americans (to blame the "false-flag_attack" on Muslims) were honoured in Israel in 2005 by Israeli President.

And what was the response of the USA?
Well, more support for Israel!

In fact, Israel, including Judea and Samaria, is pretty much the most peaceful place in the ME, and it is mind boggling that you blame the slaughter of Arabs by Arabs on Israel.

The Occupied Territory of Palestine is not part of Israel.

How young are you and where are you doing your research?

My age is irrelevant and I read books.

Name 3 books you have read...Title, Author, Publisher.

I make reference to books, including page numbers, and publishers, when appropriate.

 

[toomuchtime_]

If Jesus is so revered by Islam, why have Muslims committed a genocide of Christians in the Middle East, in our own day and age? In fact, every 30 minutes a Christian is killed by Muslims in the ME. Yes, the Muslims who have Jesus as a saint.

Christians and Muslims lived in peace in the ME, till the "Jewish state" was created. And Mossad or other Secret Services of Zionists were caught red handed many times, planning or perpetrating "false flag" operations that would instigate hate between different religious groups. Here is only one example from many:

As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers. The bombs were timed to detonate several hours after closing time. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood...
[...]
On March 30, 2005 Israel publicly honored the surviving spies, and President Moshe Katsav presented each with a certificate of appreciation for their efforts on behalf of the state, ending decades of official denial by Israel.[3]

Lavon Affair - Wikipedia

Spies, that planted bombs in American property and tried to kill Americans (to blame the "false-flag_attack" on Muslims) were honoured in Israel in 2005 by Israeli President.

And what was the response of the USA?
Well, more support for Israel!

In fact, Israel, including Judea and Samaria, is pretty much the most peaceful place in the ME, and it is mind boggling that you blame the slaughter of Arabs by Arabs on Israel.

The Occupied Territory of Palestine is not part of Israel.

How young are you and where are you doing your research?

My age is irrelevant and I read books.

Comic books? Mein Kampf?

 

[Indeependent]

In fact, Israel, including Judea and Samaria, is pretty much the most peaceful place in the ME, and it is mind boggling that you blame the slaughter of Arabs by Arabs on Israel.

The Occupied Territory of Palestine is not part of Israel.

How young are you and where are you doing your research?

My age is irrelevant and I read books.

Name 3 books you have read...Title, Author, Publisher.

I make reference to books, including page numbers, and publishers, when appropriate.

You're such a well read genius you should have no problem listing right here and now 3 books you have read...Title, Author, Publisher.

 

[Eloy]

International law as formulated by the United Nations, the International Court of Justice, and the International Criminal Court decides what justice is and with regularity Israelis are found to be violators.

Israelis are often called violators, but there is no rational basis in history, logic or law for that charge, so what is wrong with institutions that level these charges with no facts to support them?

The Israelis are habitual violators of international law which is why they are considered a bunch of shameless scofflaws.

But of course, there is no rational basis in history, logic or law for making that claim.

International law states that territory cannot be acquired through war. The targeting of civilians for wholesale slaughter is a violation of international law. And so on in a list as long as your arm. Hence, Israel is a criminal state.

Actually, that's not true .... International law does NOT say that .... a UN resolution says that ... and it is not considered international law, nor can it be pressed in the World Court.

You are mistaken. UN resolutions constitute international law.

 

[Lastamender]

Israel is asked to follow the law so takes its ambassadors back. That's not playing nice.

A law they had no hand in making. Israel is right.

 

[Indeependent]

Israelis are often called violators, but there is no rational basis in history, logic or law for that charge, so what is wrong with institutions that level these charges with no facts to support them?

The Israelis are habitual violators of international law which is why they are considered a bunch of shameless scofflaws.

But of course, there is no rational basis in history, logic or law for making that claim.

International law states that territory cannot be acquired through war. The targeting of civilians for wholesale slaughter is a violation of international law. And so on in a list as long as your arm. Hence, Israel is a criminal state.

Actually, that's not true .... International law does NOT say that .... a UN resolution says that ... and it is not considered international law, nor can it be pressed in the World Court.

You are mistaken. UN resolutions constitute international law.

They can be used as assays for enforcing action.
Of course, Jews can decide to not spend their vacation time in any nation that takes such action.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Justice is subjective. It's not absolute. Justice for the Arab wouldn't be justice for the Jew. So who will decide what is "Justice", exactly?

International law as formulated by the United Nations, the International Court of Justice, and the International Criminal Court decides what justice is and with regularity Israelis are found to be violators.

Israelis are often called violators, but there is no rational basis in history, logic or law for that charge, so what is wrong with institutions that level these charges with no facts to support them?

The Israelis are habitual violators of international law which is why they are considered a bunch of shameless scofflaws.

But of course, there is no rational basis in history, logic or law for making that claim.

International law states that territory cannot be acquired through war. The targeting of civilians for wholesale slaughter is a violation of international law. And so on in a list as long as your arm. Hence, Israel is a criminal state.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Israelis are often called violators, but there is no rational basis in history, logic or law for that charge, so what is wrong with institutions that level these charges with no facts to support them?

The Israelis are habitual violators of international law which is why they are considered a bunch of shameless scofflaws.

But of course, there is no rational basis in history, logic or law for making that claim.

International law states that territory cannot be acquired through war. The targeting of civilians for wholesale slaughter is a violation of international law. And so on in a list as long as your arm. Hence, Israel is a criminal state.

Actually, that's not true .... International law does NOT say that .... a UN resolution says that ... and it is not considered international law, nor can it be pressed in the World Court.

You are mistaken. UN resolutions constitute international law.

You have been reading the wrong books; only Chapter 7 resolutions are law.